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ekt_bear: What difference is there between the so-called slave masters and you if you for whatever reason want to take away a person's freedom (of religion)?

You and the slave masters are the same thing.

Both want to restrict options and choices in life, force people to conform to your views.

Where did I say that I want to take away someone's religion?

Spreading information about christian slavery does not mean that I am forcing you out of christianity.

Freedom of religion- you have every right to practise what religion you want
Freedom of speech- I have every right to criticise the evil that your religion has done.

rastamouse: It amazes me how you always want to engage in discussion into something that you claim you do not believe in. Thanks OP, I love it when we play the watchmen on the wall. Let us all keep reminding ourselves and warn each other of the danger signs!

Keep scaring yourselves with stupid conspiracies;

-do you reject a hotel room if the room number is 666?
-do you reject a student number or employee number if it is student/employee 666?

I remember when idiots were praying all day in june 2006. 06-06-06.

brainchild78: @logicboy there is no need for your debate as you specifically do not believe in the existance of God. If in fact the chip is made mandatory you just simply get your implant and continue living your life. Unless perhaps you have some reservations about your disbelief. And for the rest of you doubting Thomases keep on disbelieving and remain in slumber/deep-sleep until to you are hit by a rude awaking. The facts speek for themselves.

Assuming the bible is accurate, doubting Thomas was the smartest guy in that bible. He asked where the proof was.


Where is your proof? There was a time that they wanted to tag mexican illegal immigrants so that they would not want to cross the USA border again. People did notn accept it then. Who will accept it now?

ekt_bear: Nevertheless, it is a choice that everyone is permitted. Nobody can dictate to another what religion he must follow.

If somebody wants to follow the religion of the so-called slave masters, so be it.

If they choose freely to do this, no wahala

"So-called slave masters"

knightride: You are 150% Correct! I once watched a video documentary and I was almost moved to tears as I watched Muslim arab traders buying and selling naked female black girls, standing in cages exactly like the one in d picture above.The. Market place was secretly filmed in the 'early 70's.

Wow, I am not surprised given the history of their slavery.

ekt_bear: Lol.

Slave=religion is a personal choice, live and let live?

Nobody has to answer to anyone else for their religious choices, is the point.

This is why our country is an epic failure.

Do Jews ever forget holocaust? No, it is a part of their history. They dont take kindly to the nazi sign (swastika)

Nigerians on the other hand wish to forget about slavery. The wish to forget their history. They rush to the same religion that enslaved their forefathers.

Shameful

PAGAN 9JA:
PAGANISM IS THE LINK BETWEEN RELIGION AND SCIENCE. everyone knows that..

Rubbish. To an atheist, all religions are glorified cults

ekt_bear: Meh.

Religious is largely a personal thing.

For my great-great-grandfather and most of the people in our town and state, Christianity was a more attractive option than our previous religions.

Live and let live. Nobody owes anyone else an explanation for their religious decisions.

Spoken like a true slave. Slavery and submission were more attractive to your great grandfathers

@Pagan


Kai, the religion of peace

Things about islam that they dont tell Kaffirs like me

1) Islam doesnt see slavery as haraam but pork meat, riba are haraam. The Koran never outlaws slavery.

2) A kaffir man like me can not get married to my muslim girlfriend, according to the Koran.

3) I am not allowed to advertise my atheism in any sharia state. I can not advertise to the public that God does not exist

4) Should my mulsim girlfriend become an apostate/atheist in a sharia state and speaks out, she will be either executed or face harsh punishment.

5) Arab muslims took slaves from Northern Nigeria in the past and some were castrated. Eunuchs were commonplace.

6) You can not draw prophet Muhammad or show him in a video

7) Polygamy is allowed but millions of muslim women reject it

Owning shares/stock trading is mostly haraam. Not many questions on petro dollar funds accumulating interests in European banks?

9) Jesus who was alive when there were no Arabs or muslims in Jerusalem, is a muslim. Ignore his Jewish roots and environment.

10) Slavery is theoretically possible under Sharia law. If captured in a holy war or someone comes from an unborken chain of slaves, then that person can be enslaved.



Please, if you wish to convert to Islam, take notice on these facts.

oiseworld: @op, thanks for that message, i was really blessed.

Logicboy, i gbadun you. Whenever i read your post i remember paul in the bible. After pesecuting the church he had an encounter with Christ. He then worked so hard for the church, infact he over took most of the apostles that wher even with christ. Bro carry on.

Your time go soon come!

No shaking.

jmoore: left you to your foolishness. Are the tapestries the reason why you became an atheist? Better come up with something reasonable or stop creating useless topics. Even your fellow atheists will tell you that your topic makes no sense.

Kai, why so butthurt?

Materialism is actually the reason why you have a computer. The same computer that you are using to come here and preach on Nairaland.

italo: You were never a "hardcore Catholic", if there is anything like that. Perhaps you meant to say, you were a HARD-HEARTED Catholic who never really let Christ penetrate him. A Catholic should just be physically present at mass. We must ensure that our hearts and minds are alert and engaged with Christ sacrificial love which is re-presented at mass. We must go forth from the mass to serve God in one another as Father says. And when we cut ourselves off God's love, we must go to confession to be reconciled with God. We must live the sacraments. Did you do these? No! Perhaps you were one of those 'Catholics' who went to Church only to listen to Father say "Mass is ended, go in peace."

Confession, pennance, rosaries, communion. I did all the nonsense.

jmoore: Logic boy needs to grow up. The price of the curtain used can purchase 2 private jets?

Lol where are you now? You ran away after seeing pictures of the tapestries?

Nonsense. Football is a game of both team effort of hardwork and chance. Stoke can beat barcelona if Stoke gets a last minute penality or Barcelona loses a lot of first team players to injury.

Christianity has nothing to do with it.

2good: lol. You are really no different from the narrow minded christian. Young man, I don't believe in any religious god because I can trace them to their origin. All religion were founded by early men and imposed on their subject by force. On the other hand, I cannot beat my chest and say there is no remote possibility of a god because the world is too complex to analyse with the current level of scientific advancement. Science may discover the origin of life in the future but as at now, there is nothing close to that.
Concerning evolution theory, I believe in the law of natural selection but not evolution as presented because there is no absolute evidence besides discovered ancient fossils with similar features to man. I have been to several Geology field trips in Germany, Belgium and Oman. Though most Geology theories predict occurrences with absolute certainty, I can tell you that Geologist sometimes try to see what doesn't exist just to justify their theories.
Also, I have been an agnostic for 16 years. You are just a baby in your new found believe and still have along way to go. You still have youthful exuberance and need more time to mature.

As for God, every known description of God fails. By subtraction, God doesnt exist. Furthermore, there is not one physical evidence for God or even one logical argument for God. Subtraction again.

2good: lol. You are really no different from the narrow minded christian. Young man, I don't believe in any religious god because I can trace them to their origin. All religion were founded by early men and imposed on their subject by force. On the other hand, I cannot beat my chest and say there is no remote possibility of a god because the world is too complex to analyse with the current level of scientific advancement. Science may discover the origin of life in the future but as at now, there is nothing close to that.
Concerning evolution theory, I believe in the law of natural selection but not evolution as presented because there is no absolute evidence besides discovered ancient fossils with similar features to man. I have been to several Geology field trips in Germany, Belgium and Oman. Though most Geology theories predict occurrences with absolute certainty, I can tell you that Geologist sometimes try to see what doesn't exist just to justify their theories.
Also, I have been an agnostic for 16 years. You are just a baby in your new found believe and still have along way to go. You still have youthful exuberance and need more time to mature.

What do atheism and agnosticism have to do with age? Sharaap, Methuselah!

Geology is not always an exact science. Fact

What about the fact that man is evolving? Or the DNA analysis that evolutionists claim as proof?

davidylan: again you are nothing but a confused empty head just bleating about. You say it is rational to accept the big bang because it is a PROVEN scientific theory YET you do not support it? Are you rational at all?

If it is rational to accept it does it mean that it is irrational to be indifferent? Ode, idiot! Fake scientist! Quack!

davidylan: i am willing to bet $50 you do not have the geological knowledge that 2good has. Keep quiet and learn child.
I'm also willing to bet $500 you could not provide me with the results of the "lots of testing, observations, calculations and logic" that you claim is proof if the validity of the big bang theory. But of course just go ahead and post a youtube video like you always do

Euros and Pounds please? I dont use sh1tty dollars.

What? Geologists are the only experts on the big slam?

I do not have to prove that the big bang has lots of observation or calculations. You only look like a fake scientist when you deny such common knowledge about the big bang.

I repeat accepting the big bang and believing in fairytales are not the same. One has a chance of being correct, the other has none

davidylan: hmm you sound very confused. Can you reconcile the above with this below?

Did I say that I am a scientist or theist in the two comments? Did I every say that I am supporter of big slam in the two comments?


Where is the contradiction? You are confused

davidylan: My point all along... atheists are no more religious than those they criticize except they worship at a different altar.

Idiotic statement. It is rational to accept the big slam, the big slam is a scientific theory with lots of testing, observations, calculations and logic behind it. In my opinion, is like preparing a budget or forecasting. You dont know exactly what the future is like but you use known trends and indices to judge the future. This is totally different from believing in some fairytale or faith.

2good: What if I tell you I am an agnostic and I don't believe in the big bang theory and I am an Engineer with strong science and geology background up to masters degree level? Big bang theory is still at developmental stage and doesn't have enough evidence for you to come out and beat your chest about your knowledge of the origin of life. Many scientist don't accept it because it doest not have close to absolute certainty just like the existence of god cannot be proven by any religion.
Origin of life is a mystery which for now, nobody be it scientist or theist can prove with absolute certainty. Believing the big bang story at this stage is not different from believing in religious teachings which to me are not rational.

Well, I am not a big bang guy myself. Evolution on the other hand, I accept. If you're not a christian, then I have no beef with you. Agnostic is an atheist with no balls

italo: Little kid. Seeing, feeling, smelling, hearing and tasting are all parts of the ways to obtain scientific evidence.

Notice the bold. Feeling or touching is not scientific evidence itself. That is the point.

italo: Like I said before, one who is not in love can do all these things. People can even do something seemingly 'patriotic' only because of the recognition, fame or money that they'd get from it. That is not necessarily love. Whatever actions people do when in love, they can do when NOT in love. So they are not EVIDENCES of love.

Love is not defined by one action it is by actions. One who has no love (mother and child example) will not raise and a train a child for 18 years with good parenting such as teaching the child manners, feeding the child, taking the child to school. A couple who is not in love can not be happily married for over 5 years. One of the reasons that European countries wait for 5 years before giving passports to a spouse of a citizen. Love is consistent and based on a vriety of actions over time.

Ouch....did I just destroy your fallacious claims?

italo: Its Good you know that we can SEE WITHOUT OUR EYES. I see GOD. End of story.

I can describe my dream. Can you describe God? What is his/her skin colour? Is he/she tall?

Furthermore, dreams are a collection of random memories. We have seen what we have dream about with our eyes, we are just imagining it, sometimes in a different form.

If I told you to visualize a woman without an eye and a nose, you would be able to do that becuase you have seen a woman and you have seen people lose their body parts. Your mind can visualise this. Your memory helps you to do this.

If I told you to visualize "akan", you wouldnt be able to because you dont know what it is. No memory, nothing.

If I told you to visulize an alien, you would be able to. Your memory works- you have seen an alien in movies.

If I told you to visualize the alien in stage six of Dark sector, you would be able to. However, your alien would not be much different from the alien served up by your memory because you have probably never seen stage six of Dark Sector.


Wow, I am just too smart, ah? I have no science degree by the way

italo: Where is the LIE? You should spend more time on a dictionary than on forums.

The only way to keep believing in the failed bible with talking snakes and rib-women is to lie to yourself that they were real. To deny that evolution is logical. To lie to yourself that you know that God exists. To lie to yourself that God is protecting you but ignoring those who died of slavery, hunger, genocide etc

italo: An indication of "evolution." NOT concrete evidence.

You see a wet guy. You know the guy to involved with water.

You see adaptation, fossils, current evolution, DNA similarities, speciation and the changing biology of human beings. ou know that animal are involved in evolution.

davidylan: Quite daft really. You can sit here anonymously challenging my work but you cant remove the pali and industry recognition i've gotten already so lets move away from the territory of idiocy.
So on what basis do you believe in the primordial soup theory if you're simply waiting for better evidence so you can abandon it?



Huh? Telescopes disprove that God lives in the sky? Idiocy. I didnt know telescopes were now equipped with the ability to see spirits.

God as the cause of the big bang? We dont even believe the big bang in the first place so obviously you're talking out of your pie hole.

Wait, you reject big bang and evolution, yet you laim to be a scientist. This means that you are not into biology or physics. Are you a psychologist, into chemisty or some pseudoscientist? Even theists accept big bang!

Years: Bro,you've done ur part. one thing is for sure, those that will perish will surely perish and the ones to be saved will be saved.No need say more.

You and Brainpulse are 1st class dummies. You and Brainpulse support this idiotic conspiracy that Obama is either the anti-christ or is preparing the way for the antichrist. You judge without facts. The 666 number is even rubbish. many christians dont even accept that dogma anymore

lagerwhenindoubt: The driving (off the record ) reason for atheism is that Religious folks especially Christians (who must attain blissful ignorance failing, profit from this venture) and Muslim (who must satisfy their innate urge for fatal violence or abject hypocrisy) have deemed it fit to denigrate GOD (before the whole world) by turning his Eternal perfection into a misfit of infantile emotional immaturity and chronic masochism. An Intelligent Designer reduced to a bumbling magician with old parlor tricks that even a dumb kid in secondary school can see through. Imagine the pressure such realization can drive one into -- You must pity Atheists for the trauma they are exposed to on a daily basis

Are you forgetting there are people that were raised as atheists?

There is no trauma, just a realisation. The same way you realise that there is no santa claus; brief shock and disbelief then carrying on with your life

Oh, another 2 things they wont yell you about islam;

1) You can not draw prophet Muhammad or show him in a video

2) There is serious punishment for apostasy.

wirinet: Yoruba people and indeed black people generally abandon their indigenous gods for foreign gods because they were conquered. When a people is conquered by superior power, the conquered people usually see their conquerors gods, culture, language and everything else as superior.

The yoruba people abandoned eledumare for yahweh and Allah because they were conquered by Yahweh worshipers from the coast and by Allah worshipers from the dessert, and Eledumare was unable to protect them.

Sad but truthful

ijawkid: Hehehehe...

Question go finish u today...lol..

But rili these guys are tryin to say Jesus was a bigot which I'm defending..

I go defend my master na..

I get choice??

And you wonder why I talk about christianity and slavery?

You are a slave to a slave religion

The op should be banned for this copy and paste conspiracy crap