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merge: Christianity was used to colonize Africans. I don't even know why Africans gave up their culture for Christianity. Only a fool does such things. Christianity is the destroyer of culture and identity.

100% agree

toba: May be they(too much in ur posts) are becoming unbearable

U mean Anything at all right?

Yes.

toba: I can see that u are deliberating leaving out some parts in my post as regards belief. I'll take it as an admission once again that u are selling beliefs like some Christians and Muslims do.

No u havent. kindly prove to me that giving a single word answer to a question means trolling. u are still talking nonsense. Is that too difficult for u to do?

no u havent. what is ur empirical evidence that answering a question is trolling?

How is my statement a denial or an acceptance? ur logic is is too poor? Dont run away u said 'Your a slave to a religion that enslaved your people' How do u know im religious or not? kindly define Religion

does being a christian make anyone religious?

1) After being caught trolling, your only defense is that one word can not constitute trolling? Did you just make up that bu.llshit rule? Trolling is no dependent on amount of words. It is the intention. You came here lying and irritatingly saying that you think nothing of the topic of the thread.
I will start counting your fallacious claims. Fallacious claim numnber 1; one word does not constitute trolling

2) Christianity is a religion. If you're a christian you belong to a religion. End of story. You believe in a God. A Jewish idea of God that asks you to acknowledge him as the father and the creator. Fallacious claim number 2; being a christian is nut a subset of being religious.
How is it possible that you're a christian and not religious? The very fact that you believe in a God and the doctrine makes you religious.

re·li·gious
adj.
1. Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/religious

toba: I'll take this as an admission that u lied about being rich in the first place

buhahhahaha. U have been cornered hence u want to twist the game. hahahaha. u'll fail. ur question was What rich list is Theirry Henry on? After showing u a list, u werent satisfied and begging the question again. where's the list of ur village?

but u said u come from a very wealthy family not so? Are u still claiming u are rich?


Next learn not to be a loosed mouth fool. [size=25pt]This is failure number one on ur part[/size]

This is what u get from someone refusing to admit his failure. If another list is produced, you'll end looking more foolish than u already look.

I'm saying to u to post it here on Nairaland. Are u scared? We can tell the mods to allow just the two of us on a thread so u will show me ur so called CRAZY house. I want it on Nl, since our discussion is happening on NL. what if u are lying, how can we have witnesses?

1) I am from a wealthy background and I stand by my admission.
2) You played the strawman and fallacy of rich lists. That alone absolves me of my Thierry Henry mistake because I was addressing a fallacious statement.
3) You shamefully can not admit that you played a strawman/fallacy. Unlike you, I can admit my mistake.
4) Fallacious claim number 3; Not being on a rich list means not being rich
5) Notice how you focus on the thierry henry mistake because you are losing the argument. Keep hyping my mistake on Henry.
6) You are free to produce the rich lists that contains Bacary Sagna.Please try. Sagna's salary is £1.25 million. Yet he is not on any rich list.
7) I made my offer firs, you are the one that is declining. Please, do not delude yourself. You are foolish to think that I want to show my house to the whole world. Privacy. This is between me and you. When you are ready, tell me. Coward. My offer still stands

toba: U wouldnt want me to embarrass u further than i already did above. If u are willing to take up the challenge, start a new thread and lets discuss marketing in full. I started the digression but i dont want u to run away

Why is it not important? lack of finance or what?

Are u not considering atheism a service any longer? Why the comparison with a physical product? Are u indirectly agreeing that ur so called atheism preaching service is dead on arrival?

Yes. This debate is about u and ur ill conceived notions. Thus far u have l
ived up to expectation in displaying ignorance. U started by using troll, which u are yet to back up, u went ahead to tell us about the wealth of ur parent, u also told us u are rich and that u live in a crazy house in the Uk, lastly that u intend to sponsor and preach atheism on Nairaland to Nigerians. With the way u conducted urself as an individual, ur packaging is a failure. this debate is about u as logicboy. A loosed mouth fellow like u is a failure. A complete one at that.

But u just compared it with a product above, didnt u?

1) You are delusional. You embarrassed yourself in the knowledge of marketing mix and now you're claiming that you embarrassed me?
2) Spreading or "preaching" atheism is a service just like teaching is a service. Fallacious claim number 4; Preaching atheism is a product!
3) I dont need to fix what is not broken. I am already doing a good job of exposing your ignorance when it comes to marketing. No new thread. A new thread means a new slate. I am not letting you off with your ignorance on marketing easily
4) I have already explained that some critical mass is needed before advertising. That is why it is not important. Are that shallow that you always have to try and fit in "lack of finance" anywhere you can?
5) Are you stupid? Both products and services can be advertised. When did atheism become a product? You should use common sense in that there will be some principles in advertising that relates to both products and services. You're really ignorant!Damn
6) My "packaging" is not a failure. Clearly, from my comments, anyone can see that I have a knowledge of business and I can argue my position on beliefs very well. Furthermore, my command of the English language and grammar is quite good (apart from some typographical errors on an internet forum).
7) You can hate all you want. Anyone reading our dialogue can see the loser that you are.

toba: Who cares if u have an atheist Girlfriend? U are bad representative to the atheist on Nairaland.

Now i know u are completely insane. have u bothered to find out what pun means?
ok . Pun is the use of words or phrases to exploit ambiguities and innuendoes in their meaning, usually for humorous effect I told u shouldnt believe that. So to u cracking jokes now turns an individual into either A liar, a cheat and a 419?
And u said u are educated? OMG. This is Epic failure on ur part. SMDH⁵⁰⁰⁰


Just shut up with the stupidity and BS u ve exhibited and posted on this thread thus far, i'll advice u post it here for other members to see how silly u are in ur Crazy house


Dont worry im here for u. Keep deluding urself. Im here to expose ur stupidity

1) You were not even grateful that I allowed you to partake in the delusion of believing that what you said about the girl is a pun? A pun is a literary technique ; a word play. A play on words. Where did you play on words in the comment about the girl;

toba: since u want a Muslim for a girl friend. click on my profile and tell me if u like the damsel in the pix. if yes, mail me asap

This shows that you're a liar. Does this sound like a joke to you? If it does, then you're a serial liar or just insane.

2) It's either you're a liar or that you were p1mping the girl.

3) Clearly, I am far more educated than you. We can see all your fallacious statements and incorrect usage of the word "pun".



You have been debunked!

tbaba1234: First of all, it is called Quran;
Secondly, you have never destroyed anyone on nairaland.. stop repeating that jargon... it is so childish...

1. The Quran talks of the heavens and the earth coming from a singularity, Whether you choose to interpret that as the big bang or not is open to debate. But the Quran does say unambigious things that couldn't have been known at the time of revelation.

for instance:

WE MADE EVERY LIVING THING FROM WATER? WILL THEY NOT BELIEVE? [21:30]

80% of the cytoplasm (basic cell material) of a standard animal cell is water. how does the prophet know that without microscopes... In the deserts
of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came from water.

It also says:

IT IS HE WHO CREATED NIGHT AND DAY, THE SUN AND THE MOON, EACH FLOATING IN ITS ORBIT. [21:33]

A few decades ago, this would have been considered wrong but we know now that the sun and the moon have their own orbits....

DARKNESS OUT IN A DEEP OCEAN WHICH IS COVERED BY WAVES, ABOVE WHICH ARE WAVES, ABOVE WHICH ARE CLOUDS, LAYERS OF DARKNESS, ONE UPON THE OTHER. WHEN ONE PUTS OUT HIS HAND [THEREIN], HE CAN HARDLY SEE IT. THOSE GOD GIVES NO LIGHT TO, THEY HAVE NO LIGHT. [24:40]

The Quran mentions darkness in a deep ocean above which are waves,above which are waves, then clouds above that. This description is not only remarkable because it describes the internal waves in the ocean, but also because it describes darkness deep in the ocean. A human being can dive no more than 70 metres without breathing equipment. How did he obtain that kind of knowledge in the desert?..

There are no ambiguities in these statements... It is straight forward....

2. Man was created from an essence of clay: the basic materials used in the creation of man are from the earth. He was created for the earth. He did spend some time in paradise before coming to earth. Belief in this is posterior to the divinity of the Quran. I am more than convinced of the divinity of the Quran from the precision of the language, the word choice, everything. Believing that man lived in paradise before coming to earth is easy when i am convinced about the divinity of the book.

3. This is stupid.. The big bang is not a cause by itself, what instigated the big bang? The big bang is only an effect.... The cause of that effect is what we refer as God... At some point the universe was basically non-existent...

4. Shallow statement.... The Quran is for the guidance of humanity.. that is its purpose

5. (again?) When the Quran was revealed, slavery was in wide practice throughout the Arab World, thus, it would have been impractical and detrimental to place an immediate ban on the slave trade, forcing all slaves into unemployment/poverty. The Quran uses a better psychological approach to win people’s hearts in the struggle against slavery and all forms of discrimination by placing a strong emphasis on human dignity and equality and encouraging the freeing of slaves:

Did we not show him the two paths? He should choose the difficult path. Which one is the difficult path? The freeing of slaves. Feeding, during the time of hardship... [90:10-14]

Righteousness is not turning your faces towards the east or the west. Righteous are those who believe in God, the Last Day, the angels, the scripture, and the prophets; and they give the money, cheerfully, to the relatives, the orphans, the needy, the traveller, the beggars, and to free the slaves... [2:177]

The Quran lists the penalty for various misdemeanours as freeing of slaves, see 4:92, 5:89, 58:3. It also implies distribution of community/collective charities would contribute towards freeing of slaves:

The charities are to go to the poor, and the needy, and those who work to collect them, and those whose hearts have been united, and to free the slaves, and those in debt, and in the cause of God, and the traveller. A duty from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Wise. [9:60]

The only method mentioned in The Quran for gaining captives (more correctly termed 'prisoners of war', not slaves) is during warfare, after which they must be released or ransomed. Keeping them is not an option:

Therefore, if you encounter those who deny the truth (in warfare), then bring about the captives until when you have subdued/overcome them, then strengthen the bind. Then after either grace/favour or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. That, and had God willed, surely He would have gained victory Himself from them, but He tests some of you with others. And those who get killed in the cause of God, He will never let their deeds be put to waste. [47:4]


The Quran only talks about freeing slaves not capturing them....

1) The Quran is not scientific. Man was not created. Evolution. Man evolved from other life forms.

2) The Quran is not divine. A book that could not define slavery as a sin but condemns stealing.

3) Allah can not be the Merciful (Al Rahim) and at the same time be the Inflictor (Ad-dar)

4) Allah does not exist. There is no physical evidence for him. We can only guess. Guessing is saying that Allah is the cause of the big bang with no emprical evidence.

5) Even a child would know that many animals are made up of water. What is blood if not water? Allah is called Allah the healer. What sickness has he healed? Why do we need doctors then?

“We sent down in the Quran that which is a cure and mercy for the faithful”. (17:82)

“Say: For those who have faith, it (Quran) is a guidance and healing; but as for those who are faithless, there is a deafness in their ears and it is lost to their sight”. (41:44)

The Quran seems to be biased against unbelievers, dont you think?

They cant go public because they lose their tax exempt status. The would also have to expose their transactions. They dont want the public to know that they have been paying sexy usher girls to reign in male believers, do they?

toba: does this mean that anything that u have never seen, touched, smelled or here-from doesn't exist?

"here-frm"?? Are you so pathetic and shallow that you have to resort to grammar Nazi techniques? I made a typo and you can not let it slide? Jeez

Anyways, if I can not see it, feel it, touch it, hear it, smell it. or see the evidence for it, it doesnt exist.

toba: u are a joker. U started poorly and making a mess of atheism and im very sure ur fellow atheist would be disappointed with the stupidity u ve exhibited so far on this thread. All the questions I have asked, were too much for ur logic, hence u shifted away. If this is how u intend to sell ur belief to 10% of Nigerians, then u have a long way to go. U came in here bragging about ur parents being wealthy. U are the first loosed mouth atheist I’ve seen on Nl. Atheist don’t talk too much but u are a big embarrassment to atheist community. smh

oh no save me that BS. U have a very poor logic. How does anwering a question amounts to trolling? U are yet to prove this to us now. Are u scared? Just prove to us empirically that a single word answer to a question is actually trolling. Seems the logic part in ur handle eludes ur reasoning.

Are u this dumb or u are deliberately acting silly?

U are still convulsing. All u need to do is to provide evidence to back up ur claim. U know what, u are the silliest atheist I’ve seen on Nairaland. U are not only dumb but u lack critical reasoning. Yet u claim ur goal and target is to convert 10% of Nigerians to atheists. Lets see how far u’ll go with this.
I still await the proof.

Another attempt to run away from the issue. Don’t worry we may deal with that later cos u just want to import it in to shift away from the real issue. just prove how answering a question makes one a troll. Is that too difficult for u to do?

Really? I told u to stop embarrassing urself. Remember our discussion so far hasn’t much to do with religion. What’s ur proof that im religious? Can u please define Religion and show me where I said any thing about my religion being a Christian or Muslim on this thread. U can review my posts.
How im I a slave to a religion?

1) I have shown evidence of how you trolled this thread. One word can constitute trolling. Answering a question stupidly/sarcastically with intent to derail or annoy is trolling. Do you truly know nothing about the topic or video of this thread? Because, your reply was "nothing".

2) I have already dealt with your issue of trolling. You were asking for empirical evidence while being a christian. I was showing you the irony of that.

3) You are now denying that you're a christian and you have said so? You're a liar- this is your comment;

toba: Welcome on board. U are free to pretend as a newbie and not being conscious of what happens here and beyond. May be im giving out what I saw ur Muslims gave put


No ma. Im guessing u are a lady and a very known person to me here. U Muslims have been commanded to fight and hate unbelievers like we Christians.

I know that you're a liar
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toba: No. On the contrary, being rich is relative. If u claim to be rich, My driver is also rich simple. what's the fallacious thinking i believe in?

U are just an incredible liar and dubm. this is the question u asked

Logicboy: What rich list is Theirry Henry on?,
I simple gave u a list of rich pple that has henry's name thereon yet u are still complaining, What does this say about u? U are just too dumb and silly.

Ur village? Alright, provided its published and is verifiable just like the list i provided about Henry.

You ve provided no terms. U are just acting silly and when asked to back up ur BS, u run away.

1) You played the strawman of the rich list when I said that I am rich. It is left for me to define how I am rich and prove it- it is not up for you to use your fallacious terms to define how I am rich

2) The rich list is fallacious and a strawman because
a) Millions of rich people by American standards (worth over a million dollars) do not make rich lists
b) I never mentioned being on a rich list. It was your poor definition of rich.

3) I mentioned theirry henry because I knew that he wasnt on the rich list of world footballers. I didnt think about the MLS. But we can rectify my mistake and make you look even more stupid by asking what rich list are Bacary Sagna or Gael Clichy on? Many people are not on rich lists even if they are rich.

4) I said that I will personally show you my house on skype. I dont have to show everybody, my argument is with you. You are the coward.

toba: So u intend to increase the number of Nigerian atheists through Nairaland?

How does this concern me?

Just shut up. what's the evidence of being overconfident in my post? I didnt brag that i studied marketing like u did. did i?

Nonsense. Different people add up things themselves. I’ve seen up to 10 Ps in different genres of Marketing. Dont even go there at all. I wouldn't wants us to digress too much.
Thank goodness u agree to having some tangible products

How far have u gone with starting a website to promote and preach atheism?

Isnt it obvious? the incoherency u ve displayed thus far as an individual is so appalling. U arent packaging ur self well at all.


But in ur own case, advertisment is critical cos what u intend to sell is not accepted and popular at all. u need to adopt all means to create awareness. Not so? Have u bothered to enquire if some pple arent doing this presently or have attempted this in the past?

Keep mute Mr. I dont wants us to digress too much hence we live the real issue. U can start another thread and i would be ur Guest to discuss marketing.

1) You went forward to lecture me on marketing and the 4ps when you have a shallow background in marketing. Overconfidence.
2) Service marketing is strictly 7p's. You did not know that so shut up
3) There are no 10p's of marketing- it is either 4 or 7. The 10p's you see are people just writing their own nonsense on the internet. 4 and 7 are the widely accepted numbers of p in marketing. These are a result of research. 10 p's is rubbish.
4) Advertising is not important for now. If you advertise camel milk in Nigeria, it would have zero effect because most people have not tried it and already have a negative view on it. Same thing with atheism. You need a base first.
5) You were not talking about packaging as a marketing term? Sorry then. Your point is still irrelevant because I have shown you both a sound strategy and secondly, you have not seen my service in action in the real world, so you can not logically say that my packaging is bad.
6) Admitting that I might have some elements of tangibility in my service does not still make my atheism reach out a product. It is essentially a service. Stop grasping straws.

toba: Which girl are u talking about?

where and how?

which is what?

hahahahahaha. If u believe the pun in the Muslim section, then ur brain needs to be examined. U actually believe i was serious? Hahahahahaha.



Since u can post videos from youtube, why dont u upload the video of ur so called crazy house and then post it for us to see?

1) Have you forgotten that you tried to p1mp a girl to me when I was asking why muslims dont allow guys like me to date muslim girls? Since I know your stupid tactics of strawmen and insults- I will repeat again- I have a muslim girlfriend.
2) Now you are saying that it is all a "pun". Then it means that you're decietful person. A liar, a cheat and a 419. Either you're a p1mp or a liar. Pick one

3) As a I said before, I have an argument with you I only need to show you my house and not everybody.


Again, you have been debunked!

What is wrong with you? Stop exposing Joagbaje's daddies for the frauds that they are!

tbaba1234: Seriously dude, you want to start a debate?..... We can conclude from the very nature of God in the Quran and what we know about the Universe... We are not saying because we do not know therefore God exists.. That is not an Islamic position... The Quran presents the position that you can come to conclusion of God by reflecting on the reality around you... It asks the profound question:

“Or were they created by nothing? Or were they the creators (of themselves)? Or did they create heavens and earth? Rather, they are not certain.” Quran 52:35-36

So we know the universe has a cause: If we examine the characteristics of that cause with the Quranic description for God. It matches.... Our conclusions are from those rational deductions not "God of the gaps".

Your points are hollow as usual:

1. Belief in God does not negate seeking cures for diseases.... saying God heals you is just acknowledging there is a higher rational being who has set the laws of the universe in motion and controls what happens.

2. This is what the Quran says about rain;

Surah 30 Ar-Room Ayat 48: “It is Allah Who sends the Winds, and they raise the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments, until thou seest rain-drops issue from the midst thereof: then when He has made them reach such of his servants as He wills behold, they do rejoice! “

Surah 7 Al-Araf Ayat 57: “It is He Who sendeth the winds like heralds of glad tidings, going before His mercy: when they have carried the heavy-laden clouds, We drive them to a land that is dead, make rain to descend thereon, and produce every kind of harvest therewith: thus shall We raise up the dead: perchance ye may remember.”

Does that sound to you like rain coming from heaven, Nothing stated here disagrees with what we already know. The only difference is the the Quran says God makes it happen.... Since God sets the laws of the universe, everything that happens is according to his laws and commands....

3. Do you know how small the earth is compared to the rest of the universe? you are looking for physical evidence. that is just irrational...

The Quran itself is evidence for existence of a creator.

Tbaba, you already know the result of this debate. I will destroy you as usual. It actually pains me to do this every time because you are a respectful guy.


1) The Koran has to be interpreted in such a way to relate Allah to the big bang. Before science, this was not the interpretation. Stop copying Hamza in remixing the Koran.I too can put forward quotes that make it seem that God is in support of the big bang

2) Why are you ignoring the fact that the Koran says that man was not created on earth but in paradise? That alone destroys any credibility the Koran has.

3) The big bang is a result of so many calculations and sceintific data. How do we get from there to go backwards to the unscientific Koran? We know that there is a cause to the universe but how does the cause become allah? The Koran calls him the creator and the initiator. The bible calss God the creator and the beginning. Still these two books are not scientific and neither accurate.

4) The Koran is not divine. God is infinite. The koran is a finie book.

5) The Koran does not condemn slavery. There is no where that the Koran says that slavery is bad. nstead, it is regulated. You will claim freeing of slaves but, it is not cumpulsory or a sin to keep a non muslim slave for life.

Ptolomeus: Spanish?
How can you, dear friend, confuse me with Spanish? Hahaha!

The Charruas were the first inhabitants of Uruguay!
Jesus was one of them! Here's the picture!

Sorry! My history of Uruguay is not very good

Dipwater: @logic wow u are avery yungman ,with so much wisdom gushing out of ur brian. Gud 4 u . Hope ur parents know dat ure an atheist? Am not an atheist.am a deist, but a diffrnt type of deist dat bilivs in wateva gave me life as my creator ,it culd be evolution or the big bang theory wateva ,I don't care.

Thank you. My parents know.

buzugee: at the age of 2 i knew right from wrong. i couldnt be brainwashed. i was a manchild. being brainwashed at the age of 2 is no excuse. at the age of 2 i accosted an armed robber and slapped sense into him. the point here is you were a LovePeddler for the papal church for 22 years, so personally, i dont think you are a true atheist. i think you are just angry that all the tithes you had been paying for 22 years was not reciprocated so you are going through a rebellious phase. i give you another 3 months of rebellion and you will go crawling back to the archbishop for penance and acceptance back into the fold and then you will continue your night vigils with muscled deacons and archbishops

of course i didnt literally do those things at the age of 2 LOL just making a point

they dont pay tithes in the catholic church. There are offerings which are not cumpulsory. The highest I have ever put into offering is N100 in Nigeria.

Also, I am an atheist, not just a rebel.

tgirl1986: Atheism is becoming a religion of it's own..why do you want to convert people? What's the motive? Why is it wrong for them to remain where they are?

It is a disgrace that many west africans accept a religion that enslaved their people. Accepting a religion that tells them that all God's prophets came from the Middle east/north africa.


Furthermore, there is not one shred of evidence that God exists. You have never seen, touched, smelled or hearfrm God.

toba: Dont forget u are in a licensed territory. Seun Osewa is the real owner of the territory.
Alright.

what's ur empirical proof that i was been sacarstic with my response? who told u that? Have i ever had a debate with u about God? again whats ur empirical proof that i wasnt genuine with my response? How does giving a direct answer to question amounts to a negative contribution.
Like the form u take on NL with thread proliferation?

You're a joke

1) The proof of your trolling lies in your first comment. Either you accept that you're a dummy that knows nothing about debates between atheists and Christians or that you're a troll.

2) It's good that you're asking for empirical evidence. However, why dont you ask yourself where the empirical evidence for the God that you submit your brains to. Your a slave to a religion that enslaved your people. Shameful.

toba: Just shut up. What did i say? I said u should shut up. U want to see his name on the list? Ok here's one out of several list for the immediate past year 2011 December.

Beckham’s $6.5 million 2011 salary was the highest in MLS. His 2012 compensation hasn’t been reported. Trailing the English icon on the league’s 2011 rich list were New York Red Bulls imports Thierry Henry ($5.6 million) and Rafa Márquez ($4.6 million) and L.A.’s Robbie Keane ($3.4 million). Galaxy captain Landon Donovan, the highest-paid American player at $2.3 million, is fifth on the MLS list. www.aol.sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2012-03-20/david-beckham-lionel-messi-cristiano-ronaldo-france-football-highest-paid-soccer

Yes young, its to prove u to u that ur BS claims holds no ground here if we cant even find the names of ur so called wealthy parents on any list at all. Next u'll keep ur BS to urself cos the so called wealth isnt reflecting at all in the manner u type and post comments on NL. Its just too poor. Its the empty can that makes the loudest noise. If at all ur parent are wealthy, whats our fking biz with that nonsense? U are really doing abad job here .
of course u need to cos my personal driver is also rich cos he pays his bills. it doesnt follow. There are so many pple that are rich, yet still looking for job. U need to clarrify more on that enough
are u scared? Just post the video here so if i want to deny seeing how rich u are, others that have seen ur parents wealth would prevent me. Im waiting for the pix and video of ur crazy house according to u

1)So, by your logic, I am not rich if my surname is not on the list of top richest people? You honestly believe that fallacious thinking? This is what happens when you play strawmen.

2)I showed you the world rankings and you shifted to MlS players. It's equivalent to me showing you the top 10 richest people in in my village. Epic fail

3) I have offered you the terms of my challenge, you are the chicken that was too scared.

toba: ok u believe there's no God. So u are a believer and u preach this belief.

No i havent 'hear' of meme WOW

So how are u going to achieve this since Nairaland is the only platform u have the balls to use?


learn how to read. I gave an advice cos i see u fighting a lost battle

like ratio 2000:160,000,000.
what do u mean by secular? Im not sure

1) I dont believe that there is no God. I know that there is no physical evidence to believe that there is a God. No physical evidence. Not an item of faith.

2) Are you really hyped about me forgetting to put a "d" in in "heard"? You are a pathetic grammar Nazi. Do you known what grammar Nazis do? The correct spellings when they are losing on the main issue of the debate or argument.

3) About 10% of American's are atheists, 20% in UK. A majority of the population is not needed by atheists. Show me any free and prospering country with less than
5% atheists. Nigeria has less than 1% atheists.

4) Secular- Separation of church and state.

toba: Honestly i dont consider advertising about ur belief as waste of money. I listen to radio programmes sponsored by Grail messengers, Muslims, xtians, herbalist etc just to let pple know they exist. didnt u say earlier that ur goal on NL is to spread atheism in Nigeria and beyng if possible? Why shying away from ur responsibility? If truly u studied marketing(which i doubt) then u have indicted ur lecturers for doing a bad job on u. With the way u ve expressed urself thus far leaves much to be desired. U are a bad marketer. I didnt study marketing in school as a core discipline but i did as a borrowed course. U arent doing justice to marketing at all. Ur packaging is very poor and u know the popular '4ps' of marketing. Ur product which is atheism may not sell very well cost u might not have a god price. (kai i don digress too much )

I just showed u ur weakness above. U taught i was going to give u a babe like that? U are still a boy and u have to face ur studies first before talking about girlfriends. Ok?
The only truth u ve said so far lol u final came out. Start the sponsorship now. Sow into the gospel of atheism now and ur life will never remain the same again

1) You are overconfident. Your knowledge of marketing is very shallow and yet you feel the need to even try and talk to me about marketing;

a) I am spreading atheism and so, it is service maketing. I am not selling a product. Service Marketing has 7 "p's" not 4 "p's"
b) You mention selling a product which is wrong. My atheism "preaching" is a service which might include some tangible products or elements but the basic function is a service.
c) You did not realise that "meme" (memetics) that I mentioned is an important marketing term in viral marketing and social media marketing. I mentioned that I am going to start a website.
d) My packaging is poor? Packaging does not relate to a service.
e) Advertisement is a means to an end. It does not guarantee anything. Many companies do not make tv or radio adverts until they have reached a certain critical mass. I need a fan base that would even make the adverts more effective. They can use word of mouth to tell others about the adverts because they are fans and will be inspired by any activity of the organisation.

2) I just destroyed you in marketing. Dont you feel stupid now?

3) You have two choices; either you were pim.ping the girl or you are a 419 that was lying about the girl. P1mp or 419? Which is it? There is no shame on my part, I honestly thanked you for showing me the girl and humbly declined your offer on the girl. You make yourself look like a loser here.



Wow......I just pwned you! This is what happens when you play debunktion Junction with me.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbZ-NHuUuy0

Ptolomeus: Dear friend.
I would like to give us advice ... ted a healthy heart.
Please do not bother to Titipìa You risk that she open a thread saying that you are gay, or misspell english! If she says no one cares about the thread, for leave to present ... It is she who must tell us what we can and can not do. Her needs are not covered and that makes she aggressive. You offer to help she?

@ Logicboy querido amigo:
We all know that Jesus was Charrua He came to the Belén on a tour of the national team of football of Uruguay, was the reserve goalkeeper.
Hasta pronto!

Jesús es el español

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mkmyers45: I am a skeptic...its not like im shaking in my boots but superior evidence may truly support dark art...

Well, why didnt the nazis find this dark art? They were looking for ways to harness it

mkmyers45: But he could use magic right? stop going around in circles

Yes, the wizard could use magic because that is a work of fiction.


However, the logic in the novel applies. In the same setting in real life, someone without powers can play the same trick. That is the point.


Why are you so afraid of juju?

buzugee: the same christianity you supported for 22 years ? sharrap dia

I am 24. I was brainwashed into it as a young child. When I became 18, I was bullied into still believing by my guardians and priests tr asking too many questions. When I had the chance to read and learn on my own- I became an atheist

Kiss my azz, Buzugee

ijawkid: I was taught evolution in my secondary school bro....

Here in nigeria

But I chose not to believe it..

Homo sapien sh**t!!!!

I was taught all that in school


White people brought it to us....

I see creative works all around me which I attribute to a creator,not to evolution....

No, we were not taught evolution. We were just taught different species. Homo sapien, home erectus, homo habilis etc There was no explanation of the process or theory behind it. That is why no one in secondary school in Nigeria ever thought of it debunking the bible. Thats why you didnt believe it


Furthermore, even if there is a creator (Which I honestly doubt) he is not and should not be Jesus to a West African

Ptolomeus: Hola estimado amigo:
As you say, the Jewish-Christian God was imposed on Africa by force. By dint of whip, torture and death. The slaves brought to America were brought in warehouses piled up like animals. The dead were thrown into the sea. Those who came were left sick or wounded on the beaches for dogs to end up with their lives. For the survivors were baptized, they were given a Catholic name, they forbade their language and traditions, and forced to convert to Christianity.
All this, in the name of Christ the King ...
Thus came the Jewish-Christian god to blacks. By imposition, by force.
It is strange (really outrageous) that some Africans laugh at what was the slave process ... If they were not victims of the largest family genocide in human history, should at least have respect for those who suffered and their own ancestors.
Or is it English?
Someone here knows what was the foot washing ceremony, which was practiced at the English to come to Africa?
"Alleluia ... uncivilized blacks, although they have no soul shall receive the Lord and love Him"

Thank you amigos.

I dont know how people can ignore the christian support of slavery

tony4244: WELL, ALL THOSE CLAIMING TO BE ATHEISTS. I JUST PRAY YOU START BELIEVING SOON BEFORE GOD PUNISHES YOU FOR HEARING THE WORD AND NOT BELIEVING. YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM THE IDOL WORSHIPPERS OF OLD TIME ISRAEL, ROME AND GREESE. AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT GOD DID TO ALL OF THEM. HE DESTROYED THEIR CITIES AND REDICULED THEIR SO CALLED gods. SO PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR SOUL REPENT AND BELIEVE IN GOD AND FOLLOW HIS COMMANDMENTS. IT IS NOT COMPULSORY TO FOLLOW A RELIGION BUT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW GOD'S COMMANDMENTS AND WORSHIP HIM.

Christianity only works well with fear, huh?

buzugee: yes but you have recieved answers to those questions. ask something else like say ' why do black american pastors like wearing suits that get to their kneecaps ? ' or ' why do black american pastors like wearing extremely baggy trousers ? ' or ' why do black american pastors like wearing pointy tip shoes ? ' etc etc

Sharaap

mkmyers45: Logicboy do you totally reject spirituality?

Yes. People fear what they do not understand.


The wizard's first rule;

"People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."


This is taken from a novel called sword of truth in which a wizard is reluctant to use magic and the Wizard is explaining to his grandson why. The example of the rule is shown;

A group of villagers came armed with weapons to the Wizards house to kill him because of his witchcraft. The Wizard calmly walks out and tells them that if anyone of them should try anything with him, something will happen to their private parts. One person in the crowd holds his private parts and runs out of fear. The other villagers now became scared and left.

The wizard tells his surprised grandson that he did not use magic at all, only thier fear to drive them away.

buzugee: not if it is committed to prevent from reading logicboys incessant yet similar questions

What happened? You used to like my questions?

Olaadebu's cartoon were the incessant and similar questions and now it's my turn.

plaetton: Religion is a brain job. The black man can never ever accept a saviour who is not white. That is why we so much detest African artifacts and statues. The Europeans did a marvelous job of making us see ourselves as ugly,unclean and evil, and we happily and blissfully pass this message on to our young children every sunday.

Yes,
Willie Lynch was prophetic when he wrote " ensure that you that you creat fear, envy and distrust among the slaves so that you are the only one they can look up to",
and,
" If you follow my instructions faithfully, you wull create the perfect slave which would keep reproducing itself for eternity unless interrupted by only a catastrophic event".
King Leopold of Belgium wrote to his christian missionaries in the Congo, thus: "Make sure that you descredit and destroy their heroes so that they would always look up to the white man as their heroes" .

This is a very sad story. I wonder when blacks will leave the chains of religion

buzugee: i think a better question is why do you keep asking the same question day in day out ? what are ya an OCD patient ? next time i see another logicboy question asking the same question i promise to hang myself

Buzugee why do you always betray me?

ckkris: logic
Black people believe in God because its logical. African languages have words for God as Creator. And no monkey descendant can change that.

1) God is not logical. There exist no physical proof or logical proof of god. You only guess that there is a god

2) Jesus/Allah is not a West African God. Shango, obatala, amadiaoha, Esu etc are West African Gods

buzugee: lol hey my brother Enigma how body. That logicboy na the perfect punishment for serial killers in america. put serial killers in front of the computer and make them read logicboys questions for 2 weeks. they will eventually hang themselves and save the taxpayer money for lethal injection

Isnt suicide a sin in your religion?

ijawkid: Lol....u make me laugh logic boy..

So whites brought christianity but evolution was brought by everybody...

No make me laugh die ooo...

How is that

No be white man courses like philosophy and biology wey we begin hear of evolution



Tell me.....

Is evolution taught in Nigerian schools? No.

Is bible studies taught in Nigerian schools? Yes.


Evolution is a scientific theory. Why dont you reject white man's germ theory or theory of gravity?

Bible is just a story. We have our own story of Sango

ijawkid: HehehehÉ....kunta kinte..


But have u asked urself how and where d theorÝ of evolution came from??

Is it still not from d white guys??

Slaveryyyyyyyy!!

Difference;


Christainity; Jesus is a Jew. All prophets or big names in the bible were Jews. Christianity is "proved" by the ressurection of a jew

Evolution; Man came from a common ancestor with monkeys. Fossils are found by white/araba/blacks/Asians. Evolution is "proved" by everybody