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Islam › Re: Can Islam Really Survive Another 20 Years? by logicboy(op): 9:00pm On May 11, 2012
vedaxcool: Can two blind men guide each other right? Neither can two insanist sorry atheist guide each other right. After Refuting his foolish points the OLODO general came back and restate his points, now this does not surprise me in any little way, after whipping his intellectually there is little an OLODo who knows all the "muslim" crackheads and gaymen abroad can do but repeat and repeat and repeat till his declining brain cannot differentiate between come and go. For the records I will restate what I wrote perharps retardeen might want to pretend that he does not know what is happening;
Can two blind men guide each other right? Neither can two insanist sorry atheist guide each other right. After Refuting his foolish points the OLODO general came back and restate his points, now this does not surprise me in any little way, after whipping his intellectually there is little an OLODo who knows all the "muslim" crackheads and gaymen abroad can do but repeat and repeat and repeat till his declining brain cannot differentiate between come and go. For the records I will restate what I wrote perharps retardeen might want to pretend that he does not know what is happening;
Aww, you sound hurt. grin grin grin grin


I addressed all your failed points with facts.

1) Blasphemy laws have nothing to do with holocaust denial. Fact
2) Holocaust denial is anti-semitic and racist. Fact
3) I never said only family could sue for dead relatives. That was a strawman pulled by you.
4) Blasphemy laws are a thing of the past and outdated in free and modern societies
5) Millions of Islamic women REJECT polygamy. Fact
6) The 3 most illiterate countries allow polygamy and the 3 most literate one outlaw polygamy. Fact


I addressed this and many more in the previous comment and I debunked your points with fact but you are now claiming that I ignored you points. Why point did ~I ignore?

I have debunked you and your religion

Islam/Sharia law fails in;
a) Polygamy- millions of muslim women reject it
b) Blasphemy laws- outdated and Allah is not a human being


Here is the previous statement;

logicboy: I did not know that your comment was finally restored. Please, allow me to debunk you again.

1) Allah is not a human being, dead or alive. Spiritual beings have no human rights. Fact.

2) I never said that only families could sue on a dead man's behalf. So you are throwing a strawman there.

3) You need to read about holocaust denial. There is a clear difference between historical revision and saying that the holocaust is a hoax. You are free to talk about the holocaust and debate the numbers but when you claim that it is a hoax or Jews did not die, you are a racist. Historical revision allows you to improve onn the accepted data on a historical event as new facts emerge. There is no law stopping the truthful discussion on the holocaust and so you lie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

You clealy can not see the distinction and that is why you wrongly compare holocaust denial laws to blasphemy laws.

".D.enying the holocaust is not racist as one may choose not to believe a story."
<<<< Your quote.

This is how I know you are foolish.

- Extensive proof for holocaust but Vedaxcool believes that it is a story and should be denied. There should be no holocaust denial laws
- No single proof that God/Allah exists but Vedaxcool believes that it is not a story and unbelievers are wrong. There should be blasphemy laws and heretics executed

You are bigoted towards Jews, yet you call me a bigot. lolololol grin grin grin. Lest you forget, my girlfriend is muslim.

Most Holocaust denial claims imply, or openly state, that the Holocaust is a hoax arising out of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples.[8] For this reason, Holocaust denial is generally considered to be an antisemitic[9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial
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4) Please, explain what it means to do justice between your wives in this verse;

Surah 4 Verse 3:
And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course

Doesnt it mean to love your wives equally? Or please, tell me what it means. Let's see how you spin this one

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5) The links I put clearly show a rejection of polygamy by muslim women. Your lying and twisting is useless.

a) First link; Women in Iran dont want polygamy encouraged

"Iranian women's groups and other organisations are fighting a much discussed proposed law which they say would encourage polygamy by allowing a man to take a second wife without the permission of the first under certain circumstances"
http://www.commongroundnews.org/article.php?id=27421&lan=en&sp=0

Polgamy in Iran;
"Although Islamic law permits a man to marry up to four wives (with strict restrictions), polygamy is not widely practiced in Iran."
http://www.commongroundnews.org/article.php?id=27421&lan=en&sp=0


b) Second link; Women in Kurdistan dont want polygamy

"Nearly 200 women from 40 women’s organizations staged a demonstration in front of the Kurdistan Regional Government’s (KRG) building in Erbil calling to amend a Personal Status Law article allowing polygamy."

“We are particularly against men’s polygamy. Law no. 62 of the year 2001 banned polygamy with the exception of certain cases,” Sayran, who is also a member of Kurdistan’s Women Union, added"
http://www.wluml.org/node/4968

c) Your comment about the link on Indonesia is very foolish. Irony doesnt mean contradiction.

"Ironically, polygamy is on the rise in Indonesia even as more and more women reject it."
http://theimpudentobserver.com/world-news/indonesia-muslim-women-reject-polygamy/

The irony could be as a result of either women not being able to act against the polygamy law which they dislike or are being pressured by men into such marriages.

In summary of number 5, you are clearly in denial of the rejection of polygamy by muslim women. It is a clear fact and not limited to one country. Please stop living in a fantasy world. The fact is there.
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6) Answer the question, why is it that polygam is accepted in the most illiterate countries and outlawed in the most literate countries?

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7) Why are you ignoring this;

" You say that people that deny God are evil but like a hypocrite you can not get enough of atheists and their creations. The very computer that you use is created by atheists/agnostics. Your computer OS is either windows or apple mac or linux. Bill Gates, the owner of microsoft is an agnostic, Steve Jobs of Apple is a Zen Buddhist (Buddhists dont believe in a god). Linux owners/directors are atheist.

Your computer was likely assembled in China or Japan or South Korea, which are mostly atheist countries.

You say that people who deny God are evil but you use medicine and technology brought to you by scientists. Majority of the scientists are atheists and believe in evolution which debunk the creationism in the Koran.


It must be a huge cognitive dissonance being religious"

Islam › Re: Hamza Tzortis Great? ? ? by logicboy(op): 8:36pm On May 11, 2012
tbaba1234: No man is great...Everyone makes mistakes...

I love him for the sake of Allah; He does a number of debates with atheists... The atheists lose most of the time. He presents a logical/rational basis to faith.

He was also former atheist/humanist.

Maybe you can be like him someday. A former atheist finding peace in the truth.
haha. Thank you very much but I think I will be an atheist for life. grin grin

Rearding Hamza, he can argue very well but he debates atheists with little knowledge of Islam which makes the debates on abstracts. His debates are intelliegent but they focus too much on philosophy. He is smart no, doubt
Christianity Etc › Re: Yekini: A Lesson For All by logicboy: 8:32pm On May 11, 2012
OmoPastor: @ logicboy

what is not wrong with atheists?
-Most peaceful countries in the world are atheistic
-Not going to come to your house to disturb you with bible quotes and preaching
-Not going to ask you to pay tithes
-Not going to bomb arbotion clinics and kill abortion doctors
-Not going to oyedepo-slap young girls
-Not going to do good just because God said so.
-Most of the products you use come from very atheistic countries Japan (64% atheist), South Korea (50% atheist) and China (60%)


It baffles me when christians say they dont trust atheists as if atheists are evil. Any country with a lot of atheists always prosper. Check it out


Who are you to complain about atheists?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 8:22pm On May 11, 2012
lagcity: I don't know why religious zombies insist that everyone must believe in what they believe in.
They are brainwashed to do so
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 8:21pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: and its your choice to remain a spiritual cripple
Tell me, Mr. spiritual walker, how has you spiritual life made you a better man than I am? Are you able to see ghosts and demons?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 8:06pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: i see eating that cabin biscuit for 22 years done clogged your brains son. sounds like you need a lobotomy
No one does lobotomy anymore. Outdated medical practice.



Anyways, it's your choice to remain a slave to religion
Christianity Etc › Re: Yekini: A Lesson For All by logicboy: 8:03pm On May 11, 2012
OmoPastor: @ logicboy

even at my christian brothers disagreeing with me, i think i prefer to take my chances with that rather than pitch with a bunch of atheists.

never make the mistake of comparing my disagreeing brother to an atheist angry
What is wrong with atheists? angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 8:01pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: shut your cabin biscuit eating and ribena drinking for 22 years heathen a-ss up mayne. atheism is a white thing. wasnt nothing called atheism till the white man popped on the scene. every indigineous tribe had their own lil thang going on. and if christianity is the white mans religion what does that say about you ? you spent 22 years of your life worshipping the white mans religion. doesnt that make you the biggest fool ? grin all up in that church eating cabin biscuit and ribena for holy communion angry
What does cabin biscuit and ribena have to do with anything? Do you miss your mommy or something?

Yes, I was wrong for 22 year but I saw the light. You are still in darkness. Grow up! you are not a slave; free yourself from the shackles of religion
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 7:35pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: bill gates is looking for ways to end malaria in africa ? now i know you are dumber than you sound. ok let me get this right. you spent 22 years of your life worshipping some demonic religion and eating cabin biscuits and drinking ribena in an establishment that was established to enslave your people and then just when those people have accomplished what they needed to accomplish with the catholic religion, which is conquering the whole world and its resources, they all abandon the religion in the west and embrace atheism. then one of these demons walk up to you and tell you that you are a fool for worshipping a religion used to conquer you ( never mind it was his people that used the religion to conquer you ) and then you sulk to your home and embrace the new religion that this demon told you was the in-thing ( atheism ). its either you are a m-oron with the IQ of a dilapitated slug or you are just subservient to white people and follow them around as a lapdog and do everything that they do. either way you come across as an easily cajoled simpleton. grin grin mumu . so a white guy walks up to you and tells you you are a fool for being in a religion that he used to conquer you and then you run to his new religion ? mumu to the tenth power grin
Buzugee awwwww, you sound hurt. grin grin grin grin


look here,

1) atheism is not a religion.

2) Christianity is a slave master religion

3) atheism is not a "white thing"
Christianity Etc › Re: Yekini: A Lesson For All by logicboy: 7:27pm On May 11, 2012
OmoPastor: @ logicboy

and now you are charly boy? for your info, he is an old man trying to be boyish cheesy

stop being pathetic, many comments you post are always against the post concealing the real message especially if it concerns being born again.
get a real life dude.
Omopastor, reread this thread and look at how your own christian brothers turn against you
Islam › Hamza Tzortis Great? ? ? by logicboy(op): 7:24pm On May 11, 2012
What do Nigerian muslims think about this guy;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIlVGlbHMPI


Clearly I'm not a fan but I want to know your thoughts. He has many videos on youtube
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Christians Amongst The Most Miserable On Earth by logicboy: 7:14pm On May 11, 2012
Ptolomeus: Hola queridos amigos. Necesitan mi ayuda con el español?
Cuenten conmigo siempre!...
Les envío un afectuoso saludo a ambos!
Hola.

no comprende espanyol


I can only speak English. Sorry. The only spanish I know is from Maria de los angeles
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 7:12pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: see how crazy you are starting to sound ? atheist products ? those atheists are products of God whether they choose to acknowledge him or not. those are God products not atheist products. everything on earth was put on earth by God for us to enjoy. You atheists sure like taking credit for Gods work. proud arrogant bunch

christianity was not used to enslave my ancestors. see there goes your myopia again. the lord works in mysterious ways. he brought back to you what you abandoned, by a nation with fierce countenance, a nation of base men, who were elevated to make you jealous. he used that nation to bring back to you what you abandoned and were being punished for which was , and still is ,worshipping sango and amadioha .

and it aint xtianity neither. it is a book of laws statutes and commandments.
Who sounds crazy between me and you?

-Bill gates is looking for ways to end malaria in Africa and also donating to charity but you call him a demon and start some eugenics conspiracy about him
-You say people who do good are not judged by their good actions but by their fruits? What fruit? Banana?
-Christianity clearly supported slavery of West Africans and is a foriegn religion to Nigeria but you deny it.


You have problems, homie
Islam › Re: Muslim Scientists - by logicboy: 7:03pm On May 11, 2012
Some muslims live in delusions.

Islam was once a beacon of science but fundamentalism and isolationism annihilated any scientific progress made.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIMifWU5ucU
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 6:49pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: i believe you suffer from an atheist disease called 'selective recollection'. i am sure you have never heard me say satan when something is bad. i have always quoted verses about the lord punishing people with evil

amos 3 vs 6
isaiah 45 vs 7
lamentations 3 vs 48
proverbs 16 vs 4
2 esdras 16 vs 19

once again you fail. which you always will anyway as an atheist.
Wow, did you not just call the 3 rich people demons? Or have you forgotten your Obama-Satanist conspiracy?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 6:46pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: oh and the comment about every atheist being evil. yes every atheist is evil. any man who operates from his satanic side while denying the side of him that connects him to the source of life is evil. just because you act good does not make you good. even the most demonic people have days when they act good. acting good is not the sign of a good person. a good person is judged not by deeds but by your fruits.[/img]
What fruit would that be? Apple or banana?


This is how religion makes you stupid. You use atheist products everyday of your life. Your happiness and functionality depends on products made from atheistic countries like China, Japan and South Korea. However, like a bible thumping slowpoke, you choose to call atheists fools and evil people.


You condemn 64% of people in Japan because your religion tells you so. Your religion that should not be your religion in the first place. A religion used to enslave your ancestors.


You have some nerve insulting atheists
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 5:54pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: worldly mind. shallow mind. instant gratification mind. superficial mind. materialistic mind. pick your choice
lol....this is coming from someone that shouts "satan" when something is bad or believes that every atheist is evil.


You fail
Christianity Etc › Re: Yekini: A Lesson For All by logicboy: 5:53pm On May 11, 2012
OmoPastor: @logicboy
as your name depicts, you are just a boy so what do you understand?

go play outside with your kiddy friends.

leave serious matters for the mature.
And Charly boy is just a boy.


Everyone is bashing for patronizing Yekinis death. How does it feel to be foolish?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 5:22pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: he is the biggest demon of them all. he got his money from a demonic system set up to benefit a few and impoverish many. its all demonic. to your carnal mind it seems he is righteous but thats the symptom of a carnal mind. myopia, that is
What is this carnal carnal thing you always mention?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Part Of A Car Will You Compare An Atheist To ? by logicboy: 5:16pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: you right. the cross is simply an idol image. its like if Jesus lived today and he was killed by the electric chair. will people start idolizing electric chairs and wearing it around their necks ?
Wow.....never though of that. Nice
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 5:15pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: this aint bigotry. those are 3 pictures of some of the most powerful demons in the world. you have to be a strong demon to sit on that much money when everything else is collapsing around you. those demons wouldnt give you a cup of water if your life depended on it. the money they donate is uded to curb population through eugenics. nothing more nothing less. try telling them you need money to feed africa they will laugh in your face. tell em you need money for dodgy vaccines for africa and they will fall all over themselves to give you the cash.
We all know how Bill Gates got is money. Your demonology fails
Islam › Re: Can Islam Really Survive Another 20 Years? by logicboy(op): 5:04pm On May 11, 2012
Tbaba and LagosShia got debunked on Wife beating.

Vedaxcool has been debunked on polygamy and blasphemy laws.


However, you want to know what is weird? When I talked about how unfair blasphemy laws are, both LagosShia and VedaxCool wrongly compared it to Holocaust Denial laws. They do not know the difference between denial and discussion/mockery. Maybe they think that Holocaust denial is the only genecodie denial that there is.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist @ A Church Wedding! by logicboy: 4:48pm On May 11, 2012
davidylan: why is it "impractical"? Because ea7 says so? I dont see any attempt to logically state your case besides the constant resorting to immature and puerile piffle.
You are playing the fool again!


What is practical about talking snakes and unicorns?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Part Of A Car Will You Compare An Atheist To ? by logicboy: 4:46pm On May 11, 2012
Do you know why vampires are scared of the cross?


Because they are allergic to bulllshit
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 4:45pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: all those are pictures of rich heathens. even pat robertson is a heathen. they are edomites. you know. the ones with whom the lord has perpetual indignation. malachi 1 vs 4
Your bigotry falls flat. Many good people are atheists.


Atheists
-lowest population in prison (in USA)
-most peaceful countries in the world are atheistic
-positive relationship with intelligence
-do not bomb buildings (al qeada muslims) murder abortion doctors (christians)
Christianity Etc › Re: Yekini: A Lesson For All by logicboy: 4:39pm On May 11, 2012
ProPastorChris: i wish he became born again before he died.

adieu yeking!!!
Lol....this how you christians make fools of yourselves. Using somebody's death to engage in scaremongering about hell is plain silly.


Are you god? How do you know where he will end up? Self-righteous douch£bag


Shame on you for using someone's death to push your christian propaganda
Christianity Etc › Re: Saving Islam & Christianity From Atheists Bashing by logicboy: 4:32pm On May 11, 2012
JeSoul: This is a thoroughly fantastic article.

I'm not entirely with him on the aspect of completely 're-defining' and 're-interpreting' scripture to fit our modern times. Just because a belief is 'old' doesn't mean it should be thrown away. But I understand the point behind it - to evolve, and to let our beliefs and behaviors evolve to be more loving towards people who don't believe as we do.

Spot on!
You dont want to re-define your christianity? Do you like this teaching about atheists then;

"Psalm 14:1
King James Version (KJV)
14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."


The bible should either be re-defined or discarded. Sorry
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 4:26pm On May 11, 2012
buzugee: PSALMS 14 VS 1 The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
BECAUSE YALL ARE CORRUPT AND YOUR DEEDS ARE VILE AND YALL DONT DO GOOD angry
https://humourtouch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Good-without-God.png
Islam › Re: Can Islam Really Survive Another 20 Years? by logicboy(op): 2:20pm On May 11, 2012
vedaxcool: My rebuttal still remains unanswered in any case whenever you are willing to reply sanely what I wrote since it must be politically correct to use atheist instead of "insanist" to describe you grin grin, I leave you to whine a little more while the golden rebuttal remains unanswered.
What?? huh

You must be joking. Please feel free to run away
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Athiests Not Trusted By Christians and Muslims? by logicboy(op): 1:27pm On May 11, 2012
Islam › Re: How Will Islam Make My Life Better? by logicboy(op): 1:08pm On May 11, 2012
LagosShia: now you are going silly.
Hadith on wife beating;

1) Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to towards me and struck me violently with his fist and said, "You have detained the people because of your necklace." But I remained motionless as if I was dead lest I should awake Allah's Apostle although that hit was very painful.
Sahih Bukhari 8:82:828


2) In our first hadith, Muhammad causes his wife Aisha physical pain by striking her in the chest.
Muhammad b. Qais said (to the people): Should I not narrate to you (a hadith of the Holy Prophet) on my authority and on the authority of my mother? We thought that he meant the mother who had given him birth. He (Muhammad b. Qais) then reported that it was 'A'isha who had narrated this: Should I not narrate to you about myself and about the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)? We said: Yes. She said: When it was my turn for Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) to spend the night with me, he turned his side, put on his mantle and took off his shoes and placed them near his feet, and spread the corner of his shawl on his bed and then lay down till he thought that I had gone to sleep. He took hold of his mantle slowly and put on the shoes slowly, and opened the door and went out and then closed it lightly. I covered my head, put on my veil and tightened my waist wrapper, and then went out following his steps till he reached Baqi'. He stood there and he stood for a long time. He then lifted his hands three times, and then returned and I also returned. He hastened his steps and I also hastened my steps. He ran and I too ran. He came (to the house) and I also came (to the house). I, however, preceded him and I entered (the house), and as I lay down in the bed, he (the Holy Prophet) entered the (house), and said: Why is it, O 'A'isha, that you are out of breath? I said: There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you, and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me? ~[b]I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, [/b]and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you? She said: Whatsoever the people conceal, Allah will know it. He said: Gabriel came to me when you saw me. He called me and he concealed it from you. I responded to his call, but I too concealed it from you (for he did not come to you), as you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep, and I did not like to awaken you, fearing that you may be frightened. He (Gabriel) said: Your Lord has commanded you to go to the inhabitants of Baqi' (to those lying in the graves) and beg pardon for them. I said: Messenger of Allah, how should I pray for them (How should I beg forgiveness for them)? He said: Say, Peace be upon the inhabitants of this city (graveyard) from among the Believers and the Muslims, and may Allah have mercy on those who have gone ahead of us, and those who come later on, and we shall, God willing, join you.
Sahih Muslim 4:2127
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Die For Your Faith? by logicboy: 1:00pm On May 11, 2012
Only fools die for their faith. Two reasons why;


1) You are a terrorist if you die for your faith when you have the chance to live. A terrorist to your own life.

2) You are committing suicide if you do not deny Jesus/God when an armed man with a gun tells you to. You are not only putting your life in danger but also enraging a mad man who can hurt others.

3) In regards to number 2, if you believe suicide is a sin, then by your own faith, you will burn in hell


I'm an atheist and I have one less thing to die for. Allelujah!!!!

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