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ocnovakmichael:
LordReed,

The Spirit of the Lord says unto you,
2 Corinthians 13:1
[1]This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

If you fail to believe the testimony of God, is it the testimony of man that suit to salve your conscience? Here the words of the Spirit unto you LordReed:
Hebrews 4:2
[2]For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

If God, through signs and wonders, has proven that He's able to make limbs grow and you believe not God's testimony. Is it me a mere man that you would believe?
The Lord says to you LordReed, "To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts."

You see, the words that I write unto you are not of my own testimony but of God's. Yet, if you chose to be ignorant, the Bible says "But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant" (1 Corinthians 14:38).
If you see and hear the truth, you will know it. But if you insist not to embrace the truth, even if the truth comes to you with a read hat on, you will not recognize it.

In the long run LordReed, God doesn't have to prove himself to you. Rather, you have to show yourself approved unto God by believing His testimony.
Now hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
Romans 3:3-4
[3]For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
[4]God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

The truth is even if all the Christians in the world gather together, fast and pray for an amputee's limb to be restored, it will not happen.

ocnovakmichael:
LordReed, thanks for pointing out these facts in the Bible.
However, you should understand that faith is acting as if the word of God is true.
Naaman was told to wash in the river Jordan, he did as he was told and was healed. His act was an act of faith.
Those who were healed in Bethesda pool, acted in faith by jumping into the river when the angel turn the waters.

The man who was raised from the dead by Elisha's bones is the result of the faith of those who buried him close to Elisha's bones. It was reported at that time that the bones of the prophet could raise a dead man: and so the dead man's friends acted in faith and buried their friend close to Elisha and the man was resurssitated.
The man who Peter healed was healed by the faith in Jesus' name. After his healing Peter said
Acts 3:16
[16]And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

You see, Lord Reed, every one of those healed, received by faith.

If it was simply acts indicating faith then there'd be no person who prayed who would still be sick since prayer is an act of faith just like Jesus said, whoever prays believing would receive. You always bring up excuses why this doesn't work.

If it had happen today that Naaman went very reluctantly to the river, if it hadn't worked you would be claiming he didn't have faith.

How could the people running for their lives and dumping a dead boby they were going to bury been doing an act of faith? If they believed why they going to bury the body instead of going directly to Elisha's grave get the person revived?

Look you just going to keep making up excuses. Go restore an amputee's limb, let's see if you can and when you fail stop dodging reality.

[quote author=Nemere2020 post=127653855][/quote]Yeah, you could call multiple organ failure sleep.

ocnovakmichael:
It takes faith to get anything from God.

LoLz. It's funny how you guys always place the things you can't or don't want to explain in unseen realm where you can easily interpret it any way you please, much like the Wizard of Oz. What faith did Naaman the Syrian general show? The people who where getting healed in the Bethesda pool what faith did they need? The dead man revived by Elisha's bones what faith did he have? The paralysed man beside the pool what faith did he display? The begger Peter healed what faith did he show? Your own Bible stories make your pronouncements look silly.

fergie001:
SaharaReporters

Premium Times is reporting he died in Germany.

In either case, Valar Morghulis. Rest in peace.

ocnovakmichael:
This article was born out of a demand from one of my eminent readers on a topic I wrote "Strange Powers Resident in the body of Christ."

One of my readers with the pseudonym LordReed, in a commentary, said: "Use this so called power to give an amputee their limb back."

1 Corinthians 12:7-10
7. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom, to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit,
9. To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10. To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues.

What an amputee needs is the working of miracles.
However, let me start by establishing that with God, nothing is impossible. And the same power and authority resident in Christ Jesus is in the church, as the corporate anointing. The Bible teaches that, "Do you not know and understand that you [the church] are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells [permanently] in you [collectively and individually]?" (1 Corinthians 3:16)
The church has the experiential power through the manifestation of the Spirit to restore an amputees' feet. However, the amputee must meet two annex conditions. That is, first, the amputee must be willing to receive a miracle: because God cannot do anything without your will. "If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land" (Isaiah 1:19). Also, still emphasizing on the will, the Lord Jesus asked, the man who had an infirmity for thirty-eight years, the question: "... Wilt thou be made whole?" (John 5:6). Second, the amputee must be in a place where the manifestation of the Spirit is preached: because it is in that atmosphere that God will confirm His word. "And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen" (Mark 16:20).

You see, in Jesus' day, when the people heard he was in a certain place, they carried the lame, the weak, the diseased to him to be healed because it is in that place that the Spirit is in manifestation. The power of God is in every church, so to speak. Yet, there're certain ministry where certain type of manifestation is prevalent. I want you to understand here that the place atmosphere, where the Spirit of God is in manifestation, is very imperative. "And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them. And behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and lay him before him [Jesus]" (Luke 5:17-18).

Notice in that last text two important phrases, "The power of the Lord was present to heal them," and "Men brought in a bed a man."
The manifestation of the Spirit, the gift of healings and working of miracles" is always present in certain place/ministry; and men have to bring in the sick into that atmosphere to be healed and/or to receive a miracle.
Jesus' question to that man, who had an infirmity thirty and eight years show that sometimes your outer condition want to be healed but your inner conviction says otherwise. In the end, one who needs healing or a miracle, my advice, should by every means, look for a living church where the manifestation of the Spirit is preached: for it is in that atmosphere that one could receive one's healing or miracle.

There are reported cases of amputated limbs being healed, besides several biblical accounts.
I remember a story in which one of my sister who had had hysterectomy, that is, her womb was removed. But after she was prayed for by the laying on of hands. She went to the same hospital to do her monthly scan; and the same doctor who performed the hysterectomy, who told her and the husband they could never be parents, said he cannot understand why they're seeing a womb in the scan result. And today both my sister and the husband had children.
Also, I remember a story in which Smith Wigglesworth an English preacher, felt led to tell a man with no legs to go buy shoes. When the man put his peg-leg into the first shoe, a leg instantly grew out! The same happened for the second shoe.
I also recently heard a testimony of a young man in South Africa who–if I remember correctly–was missing his right leg. After prayer, the leg began to grow, although very slowly. After a couple weeks, a knee cap had formed. When I heard the testimony, it was a few weeks after that, and the leg had grown down as far as the ankle. In another case, I heard of a woman without a jawbone who received prayer in Mexico. When the minister returned the next year, he didn’t recognize her because God had grown a new one for her!

These are admittedly hearsay testimonies that I haven’t personally witnessed, but I believe they’re true. Why shouldn’t I? The only reason to disbelieve such stories is that you don’t believe God can actually do them.

If you don’t believe that God can heal an amputated limb, then you’re serving the wrong god.

My God can do all things.

How about yours?

Think about that!

Read, comment, share.

Do not hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord!

Dude this is just an attempt at an exercise in excuses. Even your bible says Jesus healed people who weren't seeking him out sowhere is that so called healing power when it comes to amputees? No where to be found because it doesn't exist.

Wilgrea7:
@jaephoenix

I've been following a couple of these threads for a while.

I can't help but salute your patience. One of the reasons I've lost motivation to post on here is because it's like talking to a brick wall.

Certain people here who I won't mention, are more interested in just saying something.. anything.

Even when proven blatantly wrong, they just run away from the thread only to repeat their debunked concepts somewhere else.

It's not easy dealing with these. I salute you

Chai, even you got tired?! But seriously it's no fun showing someone that they are wrong with ample evidence and them just ignoring all of that to cling to debunked nonsense. No fun at all.

santakris:
https://leadership.ng/just-in-ex-speaker-ghali-naabba-is-dead/

Valar Morghulis. Rest in peace.

Dtruthspeaker:
See the lord of lies dey still dey lie even when efribody dey see say hin dey change post upanda. Hahahahahahahahaha

Bwahahahahaha! Dliespeaker!

Dtruthspeaker:
Hahahahahahahahaha Loser don dey repeat himself as e no fit find any valid argument to make!

And God is still The Only One Who shows that His products do not need labels and badges as no one: ABSOLUTELY NO ONE CAN EVER PRODUCE THEM!

FOR HE IS THE ONLY God! AND THERE IS NO OTHER NOR IS THERE ANY BESIDES HIM! Hahahahaha Loser!

So, die Loser, THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

LoLz the only person repeating themselves is you Dliespeaker. Bwahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
See am? When Satan's son fails again then the next thing is to lie and change post!. Hahahahahaha. No Road Satan's son.

Dliespeaker talking about himself again. Bwahahahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
Hahahahahahahahaha Loser don dey repeat himself as e no fit find any valid argument to make!

And God is still The Only One Who shows that His products do not need labels and badges as no one: ABSOLUTELY NO ONE CAN EVER PRODUCE THEM!

FOR HE IS THE ONLY God! AND THERE IS NO OTHER NOR IS THERE ANY BESIDES HIM! Hahahahaha Loser!

So, die Loser, THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

You must be talking about yourself since you are the one repeating a failed argument. Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
Hahahahahahahahaha Loser no fit find any valid argument to make!

And God is still The Only One Who shows that His products do not need labels and badges as no one: ABSOLUTELY NO ONE CAN EVER PRODUCE THEM!

FOR HE IS THE ONLY God! AND THERE IS NO OTHER NOR IS THERE ANY BESIDES HIM! Hahahahaha Loser!

So, die Loser, THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Your tantrum no enter. Ko wole, o ti lo! Bwahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
Satan's son is back with more of his futile. attempts. Reasonable people here have seen that the topic is on male and female Adam and not about your sex with your wife or mine or theirs. So, no road! Devil.

LoLz. You mean they can all see through your pathetic lying. Bwahahahahaha!

jaephoenix:
Hes waiting for AirMessage. Messages that move in the air

Maybe he is waiting for the atheist Elon Musk to perfect brain computer interface so he can directly beam his word into people's heads. LMAO.

Dtruthspeaker:
Look at it, sex is the only thing and place where we have restriction.

Considering The Law in Genesis 2 before The Law in Exodus, we were free in all things eg we were free to eat food,, clothes, travel, relating with people from any tribe, cars, houses, animals etc

But the only thing that we are not allowed to do is to have sex.

The Commandment even Said "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

And it is in sex that we tell our liitle children as they are growing "Do not let anybody touch you ooh"

It is in sex we say "no dey touch my pikin like dat/i no like how you dey touch me"

It is in sex and for sex that you will hear women say "if you touch me, you go die"

It is in sex that touching is also cheating in marriage.

And it is in sex thst you are not allowed to have sex outside your marriage.

Dtruthspeaker:
Efribody don see wetin i talk and all of dem no ask me about sex with my wife because dem know say e no correct. So na you wey because the thing dey pepper you and you no fit bear am kon dey talk off off point dey try to dey use magu-magu to take bend am to talk about me and my wife.

Now your eye don see pepper tire as you still no find any valid thing to talk despite all your scam and fraud! Loserlord! hianhahabahahahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the LyingReed wey no fit find wetin to talk again as e no get road to waka! Hahahahahahahaha.

Why do like lying to yourself? See now that you have taken it beyond Adam and Eve yet you'll be dribbling your own shadow. Dliespeaker. LoLz.

Dtruthspeaker:
This just proves you are the lLyingReed for the opening statement already shows that the target is about Male and female Adam.. Hahahahahahaha No Road LyingReed

Bwahahahahahaha! Caught in the headlights again.

Dtruthspeaker:
Mumu! The word "collectively" has exposed you are a mumu scammer because clearly branding is more than labels and badges.

So your scam no work Loser! Hahahahahaha. And your talk sef na off point! Hahahahahaha.

[b]And God has already proven that there is no need to badge and label His Products for no one: ABSOLUTELY NO ONE CAN PRODUCE THEM!

FOR HE IS THE ONLY God! AND THERE IS NO OTHER NOR IS THERE ANY BESIDES HIM! grin Hahaha Loser!

So, no road for THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH![

SO YOU DON LOSE, LOSER!/b] Hahahahahahahahahahahaa!

Bwahahahahahahahaha! You are done! LoLz!

Dtruthspeaker:
See as serpent pikin dey twist and turn like earthworm wey salt dey pepper am. Hahahahahaha . Off Point! You no get any valid thing wey you fit say! Hahahahaha. Loser

LoLz! Na you talk say sex na forbidden fruit, na you no wan answer whether you dey sex your wife or if na sex your papa and mama use take born you so na you e dey pepper well well. Bwahahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
And this is where you see that female Adam aka Eve had sex with Satan.

And that Satan was her first! And we know the importance of "the first" aka the statement "women never forget their first'.

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat,

Have we not seen that women are indeed moved by the penis when they eye it?

Secondly, 'she took of the fruit and ate it" So whose fruit was she eating here for clearly it was not her husband's own?

And the next line tells us that "and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat"

Which shows she "ate" first and it was after her "eating" that she gave her husband to eat.

And note the word "she gave her husband"

Clearly, in her first, "she took" meaning someone was giving it to her just as we see how that she is now the one who gives to her husband.

This statement already shows you are Dliespeaker when you say this is only about Adam and Eve. Bwahahahahaahaha!

Originalsly:
Just that we have better phones and can see what you can't with naked eyes.

And how do you know it's a nipple and not the shadow of the jacket with how grainy the picture is??

Dtruthspeaker:
HaHahahaha! See sneaky serpent has changed the argument to branding when it was about labels and badging.

Your distraction no work! Hahahaha

Secondly, we already know that they are afraid but this is a departure from post. You don't have any valid thing to say.

And God has already proven that there is no need to badge and label His Products for no one: ABSOLUTELY NO ONE CAN PRODUCE THEM!

FOR HE IS THE ONLY God! AND THERE IS NO OTHER NOR IS THERE ANY BESIDES HIM! Hahaha Loser!

So, no road for THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH! Hehehehehe!

Olodo! Labels and badges are collectively called branding. Bwahahahahaha!

Now that we have shown that branding isn't done because of fear but because of identity it destroys the argument that your god needs not place a label because by extention it means your god wishes to be unknown. So which is it your god wants to be known or obscure? Oya come back with some more nonsense. LMFAO!

Dtruthspeaker:
Off point! Serpents son. I and my wife were not the ones in the garden so no road, no matter your twistings. E no go work. Hahahahahaha

LoLz. Deer in the headlights. Let's ask this too, how did your parents produce you, was it through the forbidden fruit or some other method? Bwahahahahaha!

Originalsly:
The indecency is not in what she is wearing..... but what she is not wearing .... a bra. Those breasts are too large to be left swinging out if control... one can even see the nipple trying to bore out. And she sees nothing wrong. I guess she doesn't know.

All you people that can see nipple in this poor grainy video must have xray vision or something.

Dtruthspeaker:
And I have countered that there is no inconsistency because i have shown that even they know and are afraid and must be afraid that another person can and will produce their product that is why THEY MUST label and badge their products.

If they were sure that no one would ever be able to make it, then won't label it. But they already know that people can do so, so they MUST label and badge their products BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF OTHER CREATORS.

But for God and I'm God's case He has already proven that there is no need to badge and label His Products for no other one can produce them!

And that He is The Only God! AND THERE IS NO OTHER NOR IS THERE ANY BESIDES HIM! Hahaha Loser!

So, no road for THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH! Hehehehehe!

LMAO! People don't do branding because they are afraid of someone else doing the same product, they do so it is clear who is producing it. How will you know who made a product if the name of the manufacturer is not on it or unknown. Your analogy is as faulty as your reasoning.

Dtruthspeaker:
Off point! I and my wife were not the ones in the garden So, no road!

Very on point! That's why you won't answer because it cuts right to the rotten heart of the topic. If sex is the forbidden fruit why are you doing it? You won't answer because it exposed just how inconsistent you are. Bwahahahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
It is off point because you have shifted the post from male and female Adam to i and my wife. So off point

So it was only forbidden for the so called Adam and Eve but not for you?

Dtruthspeaker:
Off Point Satan's prophet!

How is it offpoint? If sex is the forbidden fruit it means you either don't have sex or you quite knowingly eat this so called forbidden fruit. Well, which is it?

Dtruthspeaker:
Hahahahaha! E no work! you do not have any valid thing to say that is why you are now lying that I shifted post whereas I answered your question "what would I say?"

And now that I have said what I would say and you find that you do not have any valid thing to say, is why you have resorted to your usual lyings Hahahahhahaha No Road, Satan's prophet.

For for God has already proven that there is no need to badge and label His Products for no other one can produce them!

And that He is The Only God! AND THERE IS NO OTHER NOT IS THERE ANY BESIDES HIM! Hahaha Loser!

THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH! No Road Loser! Hehehehehe!

LoLz. I only asked that question to expose your inconsistency and the fact that is not an argument you are making in good faith. If I present an example that fits all the criterion you are putting out you'll add another criterion and say ah ha this is the new way. This is not the first time you will do this and I doubt it will be the last. LMFAO!

So Dtruthspeaker you don't have sex with your wife? Or you just keep eating the forbidden fruit your god said you should not eat? LoLz!

Dtruthspeaker:
Fiirst they have to label it because they know that another man or company can produce it for if no body can, they will never label nor badge it. .

But because they already know and that it is infact guaranteed that another person can produce it, they must badge and label it.

But for God it s already proven that there is no need to!

And that is Why God is The Only God! AND THERE IS NO OTHER AND THERE IS NONE BESIDES HIM! Hahahahahahahahaha!

Bwahahahahaha! I just knew you'd shift the goal post to something else. LMFAO!

Valar Morghulis. Rest in peace.