Rostikol: Abeg get lost with your stupid grammar. Just talking rubbish. All this time you used to argue, you could have used it to read your own books.
Stupid dunce telling me to read his own book for him.
Lazy dunce.
If you can’t read your own FCKING BOOK, then go screw yourself.
FCKING ASSHOLE.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! Are you feeling better yet? Get it all out. Go some more if you aren't done. Meanwhile David Icke still remains a mishmash artist. LoLz.
chieveboy: It's like a law, the moment you make one, you create a crime or criminal offense in the sense. If the law doesn't exists, then it can't be broken.
The moment a truth exists, then a lie can be made of that truth.
It doesn't mean a lie instantly forms when a truth begins. You are trying too hard make it fit.
Jokerman: Lol... Bro... I didn't give a specific date
But you used his lifetime to do the calculation.
Jokerman: Messiah was born and lived during the 4th day, or during the 4000 year period after creation. The 5th and 6th days, 5000 and 6000 years after creation, represent the 5th and the 6th day, or the "last days". After this will come the 7th and final day of this age, or 7000 years after creation, in which Messiah will return and usher in His utopian Kingdom.We know that there have been over 2000 years since the birth of Messiah. There has not been quite 2000 years since His ministry/crucifixion and resurrection. While we don't know exactly when He will return, we should be able to see that we are living in the 11th hour.
You are inferring his expected return to be in the vicinity of 2030-2033.
chieveboy: It doesn't matter which is placed before which, the road leads back to Rome by the end of the day.
Whether you say it is dark because there is no light or that there is light because darkness exists doesn't matter so long as neither can exist without the other.
Both the head and tail of a coin are actually chilling together as a coin.
This is what the easterners mean by the below image
Huh? Truth can exist without lies so it doesn't follow at all.
chieveboy: Interestingly, without a lie, there can't be truth. This is the fundamental nature of the material world I was talking about.
If that be so, a lie is essentially truth since it is infinitely linked. Same with darkness, it is infinitely linked to light.
You have that backwards, it is because of truth that lies exist. And lies are not essentially truth, that is an equivocation fallacy. Light being linked with darkness doesn't make darkness light.
Gafferde: For me, I don’t know why people fantasize about going to heaven.
To sing, and worship forever? No day, no night, no improvements, no growth, no need for food, no sex, no pain, no motivation, nothing… just an unending sessions of people wearing whites garments singing around.
Sing for the first 10 years. Not tiring. Then sing another 2956 billion years. Nothing special. It sounds robotic and monotonous.
Heaven doesn’t sound like anything interesting to me. It may be a great venue for you. To each is own. If I should choose, I will prefer to stay dead when I die… I want to decay, and turn to elements of the earth.
I am not interested in heaven or hell. They are both bizzare and weird. In one you burn and cry without end. In the other, you rejoice without end.
Extreme cases. If they exist, I am not interested.
Of course, I would change my stance if I see a better explanation. But for now… the description of heaven is a very boring place.
#think
Cc. Ifeanyi eze
Human beings like to fantasize about perfection and heaven was one of those fantasies that has persisted but just as you are seeing the concept is an incomprehensible one that anybody who thinks a little about it will be repulsed but the religious garb around it prevents any real push back. The mere idea of an unchanging eternal existence should be repulsive to the human mind because humans are conditioned by change to anticipate and compensate for change, an existence where nothing changes is going to warp the human mind in ways I think will lead to insanity.
God2man2again: The acronyms are: B- Basic I- Instructions B- Before L- Leaving E- Earth
The Bible came into existence through inspiration, revelation, illumination, audible voice, angels, prophets, visions, dreams and still small voice from God Almighty and nature..
About 40 different authors wrote the Bible of 66 books in different locations over a period of more than one thousand years.
Some of these authors never saw the writings of one another yet there is a wonderful unity, agreement and conformity with their writings.
How can you preserve a book for more than 1,000 years? It can only be God. God has hands in it. Till tomorrow, the Bible is still under attacks, scrutiny, twisting, misapplication and misinterpreted. They sought in vain to destroy the Bible but it stood like an unmovable Rock
The Bible is good for the soul. It nourishes, encourages, heals, transforms and fits the soul as key to a lock.
The Bible has power. The power to destroy the deception of the wicked old man, the devil. Quote the Bible and see how the wicked will flee.
The Bible is a spirit. It gives life to people.
A world without Bible is like a Sodom and Gomorrah, ready for destruction.
( To be continued)
66 books that were selected by men, who excluded other books simply because they did not fit into their theology but were recognised by others.
Jokerman: The New Testament (Brit Hadasha) speaks often about this being the last days. If the Apostles lived in the last days and we claim to still be living in the last days, then what in the world are the last days, and how long does the "last days" last?
God did His creating of this world and all that is within it in 6 days. On the 7th day He rested from all of His creative works. In Hebrew eschatology there are 6 days of man and the 7th day is the final day of Messiah and His Kingdom.
The Scriptures record that "a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day".
(2 Peter 3:8, Psalm 90:4) With this in mind there will be 6000 days of man and then 1000 years of a Messianic Kingdom.
Messiah was born and lived during the 4th day, or during the 4000 year period after creation. The 5th and 6th days, 5000 and 6000 years after creation, represent the 5th and the 6th day, or the "last days". After this will come the 7th and final day of this age, or 7000 years after creation, in which Messiah will return and usher in His utopian Kingdom.We know that there have been over 2000 years since the birth of Messiah. There has not been quite 2000 years since His ministry/crucifixion and resurrection. While we don't know exactly when He will return, we should be able to see that we are living in the 11th hour.
Do you want to bet that 2030-2033 will come and go and you'll still be talking of last days merely shifting the goalposts to some new date calculation?
Me I am waiting for when Jesus will come and change water to sweet wine since all you believers are too weak to do such a simple miracle (even though Jesus supposedly said y'all will do greater miracles yet this simple one y'all are too weak to perform it).
chieveboy: This is owing to human nature and anything material. If it is not constantly renewed, supervised, monitored and all, it gets old (corrupt).
Also, some cannot accept or access truth until presented by an authority, figure or institution. Truth in itself requires not all of that.
It's a problem of the material universe.
I don't think giving agency to what is essentially a lie is a problem of the material universe. Sounds more like a problem people invented to shortchange themselves.
Right, don't let someone else tell you your worth unless the someone else is the god I believe in then it is ok to let someone else tell you your worth. LoLz.
Dtruthspeaker: When you travel to your village are the evidence of your travel still on the highway?
I have never spent 40 years traveling to my village so there is no chance I would leave the kind of evidence people who have lived in the same place for 40 years would have.
chieveboy: Man by default loves life (is good) but has capacity to play out the converse of good. We have it in us.
How the above means is in the case where a kid cries for the Christmas chicken when it's being slaughtered. Even some adults cannot use the knife to take the chickens life.
Is that really so that man is good (and bad) by default? :
Yes.
Why "yes"?
Well, we look into the big laboratory of facts and life around us:
Sweden is noted to be one of the most atheist countries, such countries happen to be the most peaceful and compliant with the '10 commandments'.
Lesson: Love is actually the main business, not religion or believe in any deity. We have it by default.
This is actually the "God" you've been hearing of in the practical and real sense. Religions merely had it mixed up and replaced with ETs.
Ok so it's basically dressing what is very much human capacity in religious garb.
The perfect setup for if you fail, the failure is yours but if you succeed, the success is from the god. LoLz.
Why not just own the entire process and take responsibility? Why do you need to attribute your successes to something else? Or for those who blame the devil, blame someone else for your failures?
Totally your job. You said my assessment of David Icke as a mishmash artist is wrong yet failed to provide substantive evidence to the contrary. Your assertion that I need to read the 3 books to 'get it' further proves my assessment as correct, David Icke is a master of mishmashing fictional tropes.
Funny how you've responded more than 3 times now and no chapter recommendations till now. Wouldn't it have been easier to give that to shut me up or even prove i don't have the books? Bwahahahahaha!
If you’re interested in his work, read his books like everyone else, and make the same connections millions of his readers have made.
It is your job since you tried to say he made accurate predictions in his writings. I am not going to read 3 books full of a mishmash of fictional tropes just to confirm what YOU said.
You have the books so why is it so hard to say which chapter at least.
Good. This is me declaring the objectivity of whatever purtanism is. Cheers![/quote]Yeah whatever purtanism is, if it exists then its existence is objective. We can say this about anything we are yet to discover. It's not the gotcha you think it is.