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Dtruthspeaker:
People are stupid whether they have beliefs or not and birds of the same feather always Bleep together. So for you to marry her or for she to marry you, you must have some equal levels of stupidity, else after a time, you would have kicked her out or she would have kicked you out because of your incompatibility in the stupidity department like hardmirror did to his bitch.

Imagine someone who think he is sane insulting someone's wife he has never met. Something is wrong with you.

jaephoenix:
Actually it was the Romans that needed that control, and got it. Kudos to them

Kudos? Fie, a pox on their houses.

Maynman:
Respect to the Jews indeed.

I put the blame on the gullibility of the Europeans, they were the ones who became crazy for that pile of junk and made sure it spread. The Jews just took advantage.

Kayouzka:
We know that the earth has a core because we can observe it effects, without

It was still there before we were conscious and would probably still be there if every human was no longer on the Earth.

millstone:
Exactly. You come home frustrated with your own life and challenges and then beat the child for being a child. I saw a post from a guy who beat his 9 year old son for going to their neighbour's house to play with other kids and e dey proud talk am after sowing seeds of division within his household. These crop of kids we are raising now I don't think we know the ticking time bomb we are sitting on. The one that don't want to flog the child are already raising spoilt brats while the ones when dey beat wan kill the pikin in the name of discipline

Yeah. There has to be a balance. I don't condone spoiling a child, once I start observing spoilt behaviour in my children I make sure I warn them and steer them away from such behaviour. And sometimes that steering involves a lil spanking.

Dtruthspeaker:
Your deflection won't work! Everyone here knows that you are synonymous with atheism which hard mirror has already expressed here.

So the most important thing is that right here the record shows you believing a fact of which there is no evidence. And that is all I wanted to say.

Again where did I say I believe something with no evidence. E bi like say you just wake from sleep, go baf first, chop, make your eye clear well well. Bwahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you people make a fool of yourselves? Here you are proving without evidence that a tree falls with noise yet you deny God's existence on the basis of lack of evidence! Only a fool takes you people seriously

LoLz. Quote where I said a god doesn't exist because of lack of evidence. Don't worry I'll wait, take all the time you need. Bwahahahahaha!

Kayouzka:
Until it is observed it is there if it is not observed it is not there. You still need to observe that a tree fell before you can believe that it made a noise.

You can't be serious. No-one has observed the Earth's core but we know it's there and it was there before we even knew about such things.

You are proving the point the there is no good reason to believe in a god. You say "You still need to observe that a tree fell before you can believe that it made a noise", where is your observation of the god you believe in?

HardMirror:
hahaha. I am extremely luck I swear. I advice guys NEVER to settle for less. I almost married a girl cos of beauty. This girl is a christian and very stupid. But then i found this brilliant babe here. She even works for me and does really excellent intellectual work. Would update you guys when we marry later this year .

Dude are you for real?! Congrats man!

Kayouzka:
If a tree falls in the forest no one can know except they observe it also the if it makes a sound can't be proven the type of sound it made can also not be proven then it cannot be without an observer. Don't misconstrued spontaneousity to independence of existence without awareness.

You don't get it. It doesn't matter if no one knows it still made a noise. There are many places in this world where an observer cannot observe yet they still exist.

HardMirror:
confirm lucky guy i am. I met her here on nairaland.

Wow. Damn I wish I can shake your hand right now and buy you a beer.

triplechoice:
The above is a joke. So homosexuals were the first people to have anal sex in Yoruba land and because of that
the word "adofuro" was coined?

Where did you get that from?

Where are the Yorubas on Nairaland to confirm this.

@Folykaze and @deepsight and @Lordreed ( not sure if you're Yoruba ,Reed, but need to hear from you too.) ,How true is it that homosexuals where the first people to have anal sex in Yoruba land which resulted in the descriptive word ,"adofuro"

@Jaephonix I think you're just imagining things ,and it's proof for me that you're only interested in winning an argument ,and don't care how you achieve that.

Even if it were true that homosexuals were the first to have anal sex, it still doesn't support your any of wild claims. Homosexuality and bisexuality are two different things. It's either you don't know the difference between the two, or you're deliberately trying to blur the lines in order to find support for your false assertions. You cannot confuse me with such deceptive argument. I'm very good at spotting that

The first link you shared below doesn't show how homosexuals were the first to have anal sex nor does it prove Africa was a hotbed of homosexuality. I think you need to check again the meaning of the qualifiers, "hotbed and immersed", you're using. They don't accurately describe what happened back then in Africa.

Nobody is denying the fact that we had effeminate men who could marry and have sex with other men in certain parts of Africa , but the culture wasn't widespread . What was common back then, was bisexuality not homosexuality
The links you shared showed nothing much. Just isolated cases here and there in some remote parts of Africa, and not everywhere.

What of your own community?

Are you not an African?

Get closer to your own people , listen to what they have to say and know the truth first-hand from them. I'm afraid you're being misled by what you read on some gay propoganda website.

Relationships with those effeminate shouldn't be equated with the culture of homosexuality as it's currently practiced in the western world, where it's one man to one man, one woman to one woman alone. The effeminate men if they marry at all, were married to men who were also married to women and that's not same sex relationship, homosexuality as we currently understand it to mean.

In most cases, if not all, such marriages with effeminate men are usually hidden from the public.


If same sex relationship was the norm and widespread back then in Africa, then the consequence of that would easily be seen; a marked decrease in the general population, since those who engage in same sex relationship don't procreate. If such relationships didn't mirror homosexual relationship as it's understood in the west, then why continue to use the inappropriate expression , same sex relationship, to describe it?

Why not describe it as it's? .They way it was understood and practiced back then in Africa.,so we get a clearer picture for comparison with what we see now




If you don't reply to the above question then don't expect me to continue with the conversation.
If you had the above information before now, why withholding it?You already misled your readers into believing that those artworks you discussed in your previous reply represents evidence of homosexuality.. You never considered anything else.
[/i] There's nothing like homosexual intimacy or gay sex. Sex is sex Intimacy is intimacy.Anal sex is not only for homosexuals? People who aren't gays are sometimes forced by circumstances to engage in anal sex.; Male students in an only male hostel, some sex starved soldiers with POW, and Sex starved prisoners
with other inmates during their period of incarceration. . Once the situation changes, the above group of persons usually revert back to the usual lifestyle.

What I see, is that you seem hell bent in seeing homosexuality in everything around you. So, I wonder why you're yet to describe as homosexuals ,male footballers who warmly embrace each other, and roll together on the field of play, during a game of football once a goal is scored.. Apart from you not providing any evidence for the above, I struggle to see its relevance to the ongoing discussion. The discussion is not centered on who taught anyone anything ,but on the false claim that the culture of homosexuality currently practiced in the western world is the same as we had back then in Africa and that it was also widespread
It's your own imagination that Mwaga 11 had wives to "comply with his father's wishes" share your source if you're not lying.

An African male king refusing to get married? You're telling tales by moonlight.

African sites labelling the king homosexual doesn't make it true. What makes something true is when it's supported by facts. There are no evidence from the link you shared below , which I retained in my reply, to confirm the king was openly gay. I have already explained the source of the false story.It was from the false accusation placed on him by the white colonialists. None of his own people confirmed he was gay and we don't have any images to support that he actually displayed that lifestyle openly.

The annoying thing you have done now, is that you shared exactly the same link which I already shared ,without even bothering to read it yourself
You only read the headline and quickly attached it to your post or read it without understanding it.

If you had actually read it , you would have seen that what it contains debunked your claim that the King was openly gay.
Go back to the thread and see where I shared the same thing showing where it was stated clearly that there's no evidence the King was openly gay.

Someone married to sixteen women is not homosexual. It doesn't matter if the person sometimes has sex with other men.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://theafricanroyalfamilies.com/2022/06/04/kabaka-king-mwanga-ii-of-buganda-gay-bisexual-or-queer/&ved=2ahUKEwip1NyZ2O_9AhUGgv0HHdYcDv8QFnoECGgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0H1QrHzWl8LJnGEjzpJWr1

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/king-mwanga-ii-of-buganda-the-19th-century-ugandan-king-who-was-gay

I am not Yoruba so I will need to do so extensive research for this and the history of homosexuality in Africa.

HardMirror:
i love calling people idiot on this forum 😄. That is why they dont like me. I dont give a fvck. Called oga se.un a weakling on monday and i got some days ban. Lol.

Back to the matter. The idiot fails to understand that atheism has nothing to do with anyones character. Last week a woman was trying to preach to me and my lovely atheist babe as we were chilling at an hotel. The mummy thought she had caught prey. I told her i and my babe are atheists. She was flabbergasted. She proceeded to use Darwin's supposed regret about evolution theory to preach to me. I told her atheists dont appeal to authority like Christians. I dont give a fvck about Darwin's life or believes. All i know is there is no single proof for god and that is why i am an atheist. Shikena.

So RenegadeX you are an idiot to think i lead athiests here. I met lordreed and seun here and there were inspirational to me. Go and worship your god in piece. As for me, i will choose a dog over god anytime any day.

Lucky guy.

Kayouzka:
You answered the question "no"

Then how do you prove existence without awareness

Can there be observed without observer?

Then now why should anyone believe that existence is independent of consciousness?

It is immaterial if an observer is there or not. If a tree falls in the forest when there is no ear to hear it it still makes a noise.

Kayouzka:
Can you know anything without your awareness?

No but that doesn't matter since existence is independent of consciousness.

RenegadeX:
How has your life been without God since you join atheism? Any significant progress or blessing/improvement in your life or marriage? because you used to be a Christian that quote scriptures (I saw an old thread where you were arguing with one colinadua guy that said he won’t marry, though he has deactivated now)
Are you enjoying life? Because your commander in chief on this forum Hardmirror is a total wreck and nothing to write home about.

In fact he is the evidence that any skeptic needs to see to be discouraged from atheism.

LMAO @ your commander in chief. Honestly I'm much better than I was as a Christian especially mentally, no fear of devils or gods looking over my shoulder ready to trip me up. My kids, marriage, wife and every other thing are well. My life is OK thanks for asking.

What is wrong with HardMirror's life?

Kayouzka:
The basis of your belief (atheism) is founded on the doctrine of materialism. Note only consciousness is fundamental.

It is not. You cannot prove that only consciousness is fundamental. You are trying to put the cart before the horse. Atheism is the position that there is no good reason to believe in a god, what has consciousness got to do with providing reason to believe in a god?

jaephoenix:
He left factual appeal and has finally landed where many christian lands when defeated: emotional appeals. Same tool my family always try to use when I show them glaring discrepancies in their religion. Its an amusing thing cos people that are otherwise intelligent would play this card and you wonder, "What has religion done to his brain?"

The more jarring ones are the ones that pretend they have scientific evidence which when probed turns into an utter pile of bullshit. Their turn towards emotional appeals is so comical.

nairamaniac:
So spanking your 6-year old child is ABUSE?

U can't be serious.

The spanking serves as a deterrent from making the child make similar mistakes.

You said physical methods would be used sparingly?

What if the child commits offences "unsparingly"?

Meanwhile u should have no fears of the child standing against you physically, cos you wd use the rod on him with love and let him/her understand it's for his own good while you are at it.
Then reward/applaud the same child when he/she does great.

Where did I even remotely insinuate spanking your 6-year old child is ABUSE? Do you know the meaning of abuse?

Any form of punishment also acts as deterent so there is no need to focus on spanking.

I was speaking about my particular experience and I did say my children do not 'commit offences "unsparingly"' so I have no reason to switch to beating them.

I have no fears of retaliation because I don't abuse my children whether physically or otherwise.

nairamaniac:
You can hardly tell the state of mind the beater has while beating the child as an unlooker.

At times, the child needs to feel his actions alone is a frustration to your entire life. Depending on the magnitude of his offence.

True,some parents transfer their frustrations on their children, which is really messed up.

From the things they say you can.

oliverwrites:
My mom can beat more than Mike Tyson but I no die instead I am better for it.

My teacher in secondary school will beat me if I buy complete sports and today's sports, he will still beat me the next day if I do not buy because apparently he thought I was going to buy hence he did.

Today I regard him as one of my best teachers and was telling my daughter about him few days ago. Beating when done for correctional purpose and in love is very very good especially for stubborn cows like myself.

What I see is most people beat out of frustration not correction or love.

EmekaStanley:
I have seen numerous debates about whether disciplining a child by spanking him or her is right.

Some parents are for it, while some are against it. Only parents can finally decide whether to spank their kids or not.

But it must be known that whichever way you choose to train your child will definitely reflect on how your child treats you tomorrow.

The honor you get from you child as a parent will be as a result of how best you were able to inculcate good precepts and concepts in that child.

Here is what the Bible says about spanking a child;

" Children just naturally do silly, careless things, but a good spanking will teach them how to behave." Proverbs 22: 15 GNT

Another translation puts it this way;

"A youngster’s heart is filled with foolishness, but physical discipline will drive it far away". Proverbs 22:15 NLT

Yet another interesting translation puts it;

"Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; the rod of discipline [correction administered with godly wisdom and lovingkindness] will remove it far from him". Proverbs 22:15 AMP

It is important that you start disciplining your child when he or she is still little.

Don't copy deluded cultures that enthrone children who bully their parents, all in the name of legal protection or human rights.

The rot in the society is directly linked to collapse in family values.

However you choose to train your kids lies in your hands but if you want the truth, this is it; spanking kids is a good way to make them behave.

ES

The fact is the threat of physical pain only works when the child is young and defenseless in the face of the parents clear physical superiority. If that forms the basis of your discipline what happens when the child has grown physically and is assured they can at least withstand some physical confrontation? I bet no parent wants to get to the point where their child wants to physically manhandle them but it will if you insist on making physical punishment the basis for discipline.

I as a parent resolved that words will form the basis of discipline for my children and physical methods will be used very sparingly if at all. So far so good, my children listen to me when I speak and I daresay are more put together than many children we encounter. Abuse has no place in parenting especially physical abuse.

FxMasterz:
No you never did. I was the one who proved you wrong so many ways. Go back and read.

LoLz. Not even once. You were wrong about the very premise of the thread, that the remains of Sodom and Gomorrah had been found. Not only are you wrong you failed to provide evidence of any sort of divine action so you are actually a double loser.

FxMasterz:
That's because you don't want to accept you're wrong. Neither have you done anything to prove me wrong as well.

What I know is that you guys have deliberately chosen perdition to yourselves. It's a pity that you would drag your innocent children into your errors. I'll leave you to your fate.

We proved you wrong so many ways you are now going on emotional appeals. LoLz.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are Satan incarnate 👿 so of course you must lie.

😛

Dtruthspeaker:
Exactly my point! Devil. You don't have any thing to say.

Dumdum has never heard of network down or server down before. LMFAO!

Like pissing and prayer are the same thing. Only a mad devil will think this. You don't have any thing to say.

Dumdum private means it isn't public. Chai what a dumdum. Bwahahahahaha!

Kayouzka:
Perhaps they don't accept the Christian and Muslim version of God

But surely the subconscious mind don't lie and each of our subconscious mind knows that there's God just that, God is not superficial and judgemental the real God do not judge. Now, if we ask what is the ultimate being? I will say that it our awareness, without awareness there is no existence and the mind cannot comprehend this being because he is not a being, every concept of God be it Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc, sorry to say, is idolation if not the idolation of objects or a thing it the idolation of the mind because the mind can't know God. (Check Buddhism the Godless religion and the difference from olodumare and orisha in IFA)
Then what is God? "I KNOW but if you ask me I do not know" same as you all.

thealleyesistheeyeofgod.

My subconscious knows no such thing. You are conflating intuition with subconscious, they are not the same.

Dtruthspeaker:
You no get anything to talk before.

No you. Bwahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
Like you devil does not know that when a banker can no longer log into his system it is a firing!

LoLz. Yeah because anytime someone can't access their system it means they've been fired. What a dumdum.

Like we don't know devil, that Kim Kardashian's is truly a show off while the coaches is own is a private prayer taken place in public view.

Can't wait for you devils to be carried away to your destruction.

LoLz. Like pissing is a private thing you can do in front of spectators. A true dumdum. Bwahahahahaha!

OLAADEGBU:
The two verses are not mutually exclusive. The latter does not supersede the former, if you know what I mean.

LoLz. Tell me how everywhere and your room are equivalent.

Dtruthspeaker:
I have already told you what Jesus meant and you could not answer, so get out, evil.

LoLz. No, make me. Bwahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
Devil! You already know that the counter he gave was to show that the coach was not wrong to pray with his team where he did which does not offend The Law in Mathew at all. You know this you are just being a devil seeking to attack The Lord's work

Jesus says pray in secret but you choose instead to listen instead to Paul. I guess Paul is indeed superior to Jesus.