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Dtruthspeaker:
you can not switch the burden of proof. hehehe

And funny, you now confirm.you have checked and have seen that there is no slave in Isreal by the time of the judges which is why you are not able to counter. Loser! hehehehehe!

No Road!

"There is no valid argument against the Truth". Absolutely none. It is an unbreakable Law!

There's nothing to check, there is nowhere it says that. You just make up bullshit and think we are like you who believes his own bullshit. LMAO!

Dtruthspeaker:
None of can ever switch the burden of proof on me.

Since he came into the thread knowing the meaning of bondsman/bonds woman and he has been arguing on it, he can no longer change that meaning he was representing it to be.

So, it's invalid and Road Block, hence No Road!

LoLz@ "None of can ever switch the burden of proof on me." No need to even try, it will always be yours anytime you make a claim. Claims like "And as you can see by the time of the judges, you do not see any slave in Isreal whether of Hebrew or of other nations." that you refused to actually cite any passage to support. Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Holiness2100:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-EpvI6vXl4

One viewer stated: 'That Sam Smith performance was weird I had to look away like why artists so obsessed with the devil?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11717183/Grammy-awards-2023-Viewers-slam-Sam-Smith-Kim-Petras-demonic-Unholy-performance.html

Because you lot are obsessed with the devil yourselves so they use it to get your attention. If he was singing about his favourite socks you probably won't be out here talking about him would you? LMAO!

Image123:
You're just jealous.

LMFAO! Jealous of a fairytale? What a joke. Bwahahahahaha!

Kobojunkie:
1. The fact that the message is retained across translations means obviously the problem is not with what is written but the one thinking an interpretation is necessary.

2. So, Israel installing its own ruler of choice over Aram does not imply in any way that Israel ruled over Aram? WOW! You be genius!.... moving on then!

LoLz! Because it says the god sent Elijah to Aram to anoint a King automatically means Israel was ruling Aram? You have to be daft to think so.

Maybe Israel was also ruling Babylon that's why the god said Nebuchadnezzar was the greatest of Kings. What kind of daft thinking is that? Bwahahahahaha!

Divoc19:
This year is not good for Sickle Cell carriers. I lost my six year old daughter on Jan 31st 2023

So sad, it can't be easy as a parent. My condolences.

Gamine was not SS, she had cancer.

Reinamaria:
What health issue did she have?

Cancer.

lmuhopeful:
If I have to guess I'd say she was SS. But I'm not sure. I wish her family and friends the strength to bear the loss.

She was not. It was cancer.

Kobojunkie:
I use the Easy-to-Read translation because it is easy to read. The passage tells you they stopped paying tribute but it also goes on to tell you that in addition, Moab broke away from the rule of Israel. Stopping the paying of tributes is not necessarily the same as breaking away from the rule of another over one.

Basically it boils down to what version you are interpreting from. That's OK I try not to debate version differences and interpretation.

As for Aram, it is found right there in the book of Kings. In Chapter 19, we read that God sent Elijah into Aram

It doesn't say Israel ruled Aram though.

Kobojunkie:
1. This isn't rocket science.
Rebellions are typically against what? An authority i.e. one who rules over one.

I asked what version you used.

And what else you call stopping a tribute? Of course it's a rebellion.

Meanwhile still waiting for where in the Bible it says Israel ruled Aram. You brought it up I dunno why you suddenly reluctant to provide the passage.

Kobojunkie:
1. I see you didn't even bother actually reading through the passage.

What version is that cos this is not how the KJV puts it.

4 And Mesha king of Moab was a sheepmaster, and rendered unto the king of Israel an hundred thousand lambs, and an hundred thousand rams, with the wool.

5 But it came to pass, when Ahab was dead, that the king of Moab rebelled against the king of Israel.

6 And king Jehoram went out of Samaria the same time, and numbered all Israel.

7 And he went and sent to Jehoshaphat the king of Judah, saying, The king of Moab hath rebelled against me: wilt thou go with me against Moab to battle? And he said, I will go up: I am as thou art, my people as thy people, and my horses as thy horses.

Still waiting for where Israel ruled Aram.

Kobojunkie:
Well, whether it is all about the tribute mentioned in verse 4 or it included that stressed in verse 7 as well which is that Israel ruled over by Israel--- something that is quote possible even when the one ruled over still had a king and an army --- the fact is, Moab was one of the previously conquered territories that Israel lost after God's decree against Solomon for his breaking of the agreement with the House of Jacob.

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In the same scriptures, Isreal is also written to have ruled over Aram as well. It is written that God even sent one of His prophets to anoint a King over Aram and Aram had an army of its own too.

Verse 7 doesn't say that.

Where in the Bible does it say Israel ruled over Aram?

jaephoenix:
Its his trademark. When you ask him about it, he'll add more insults or put up that his slander post

LoLz.

Seun:
RIP. I'm sad I didn't get to talk to her. Glad that she got married and everything despite the health issue.

She had good things to say about you, in fact I joined NL because of her.

jaephoenix:
What is bondsman?

He'll probably dodge this question till the thread fizzles out. LoLz.

I wonder what other name you give to people that you BUY and have as POSSESSIONS FOREVER.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, what?

Isn't even the paying of tribute by one ruler or nation to anther a way of showing obedience to said nation or to obtain peace or protection?

2 Kings 3 vs 4 - 7 explains that the reason the King of Israel went after the Moabites had to do with Moab breaking away from the rule of Israel..

I spelt it out clearly, paying tribute is not the same as territory control. More than not it's a reflection of the acknowledgement of the superior military power of the tribute receiver. The fact that Moab still had its own king should let you know they were autonomous.

Verse 4 shows the king of Moab was paying tribute and verse 5 shows that he stopped after Ahab died.

Kobojunkie:
Everything because after the death of Solomon, the tide essentially changed for the house of David and the throne it occupied. The throne lost not just moab but all other territories that was once under it. Basically, for those seeking to claim a win over YHWH, it is more accurate to claim then that Ashtoreth, the goddess of Sidon, Chemosh, the god of Moab; and Milcom, the god of the Ammonites. And so on, all began winning against YHWH after God cast Solomon down for breaking the agreement.

I am not sure I agree that Moab's territory was under Israelite control. Moab was paying tribute yes but that's not the same as having their territory controlled by a foreign power. So in effect this had nothing to do with losing the throne, can't lose what you never had.

Kobojunkie:
But you missed the most important part of the story which is that all those who came after Solomon was already doomed by God of Israel to lose the Kingdom that God had originally allowed David and Solomon after Him to have. You quoted from 1 King 11 but for some reason didn't read to the very end to realize what Solomon's act which you claim was of a loving husband had set in motion as far as Isreal and the line of David was concerned.
The question to ask is did Chemosh of the Moabites win against the God of Israel, or did the God of Israel use the Moabites to inflict on the house of the throne the punishment He promised He would deal against them? If you pay careful attention to the narrative penned down in scripture, after the death of Solomon, not only was Israel divided into two separate Nations, and the throne of David reduced to a fraction of its original self, so also, Israel lost almost all of the territories that were originally under it, including all those indicated in red in verse 33 in the above passage. So, YHWH's declaration against the house of David as a result of Solomon's sin did come through. Only here, you seem to specially think Chemosh is the one the glory ought to have gone to.

Huh? What has the story of the Moabite king who sacrifices his son got to do with David and Solomon who were long since dead?

N3cR0mAZc3R:
Bro do you know her psn handle because I think I have her as friend on psn and my whats app gaming group so I can confirm whether it's her please I beg of you.

I don't have it but I'll try to find out.

GloriousGbola:
@texazzpete, what happened?

Kaycee7:
Damn! What happened?

She was ill, cancer actually.

Hi all,

I would like to bring it to your attention that the OP of this thread has passed away. May her soul RIP.

Corrinthians:
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/02/07/uk-prosecutors-accuse-ekweremadu-of-attempting-to-buy-kidney-for-7000/

What a shit show.

Dtruthspeaker:
Looser!
When The Debate Is Lost, Slander Becomes The Tool Of The Loser!

LMFAO! Go check who started with the name calling if not you.

Leviticus 25:46
And you may take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them as a possession; they shall be your permanent slaves. But regarding your brethren, the children of Israel, you shall not rule over one another with rigor.

JOACHINpedro:
It is no news that things are brutally hard in this country. Without wasting much time, how many child/children would you like to have?

As for me, na max of Two kids regardless of their genders.

I am happy with the 2 I have and don't want any more kids.

Dtruthspeaker:
hahahahaha i did, scratched cd That is why you have landed with a knocked engine in repeat mode, chasing last poster. "repeat, repeat, repeat.

Bwahahahahaha! Not my fault that your favourite storybook is a slave owner's wet dream.

Leviticus 25:46
And you may take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them as a possession; they shall be your permanent slaves. But regarding your brethren, the children of Israel, you shall not rule over one another with rigor.

1Sharon:
AS genotype shouldn't be a hindrance! If you meet a woman that is AS you can still go ahead.

Go for genetic counselling, there are options.

You can do:

amniocentesis OR

pre implantation genetic diagnosis.


Those options are if you have the money and are brave enough.

Will the woman be willing to abort the pregnancy if it turns out to be SS? Those are not going to be easy decisions for everyone to make.

HardMirror:
Hello.
Just watch the video
These 10 women say they are sorry for believing they can be equal to men. Ladies do you agree?

Most of these women are obviously old and now need a man. Humbled by age i guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmnSGg_dUcQ

LoLz. This is part of what poor or misinformation does, breeds toxicity. Feminism is not misandry, these ladies like the 1st said got their information from fairytales in the form of movies and whatnot. Feminism is just about equal rights and has nothing to do with becoming a self absorbed misandrist bitch. Issues like equal pay for equal work and non discriminatory hiring practices are what feminism is about not all this I don't want children or I don't need a man crap. If you don't want children or a man in your life that's your choice, that's not what feminism is about.

EruditeSupport:
You're right. Sometimes you'll read things said by these empty headed fools about the Almighty Yahweh, and you'll shudder. Things the devil their master dare not say against the servants of God Almighty, these useless humans say them against the God of gods.
Blasphemers and sconers have been well prophesied in scripture, and indeed the scriptures must be fulfilled. As they are fulfilling the prophecies about their current affronts, they'll also fulfil the prophesies about their eternal judgement. It's just a matter of time. Once their cup is full, the hammer of God's wrath would land upon their silly heads.
Before anyone talks or acts presumptuously, he should first ask Nebuchadnezzar how the Almighty God dealt with Him in the days of his pride. These ones here on Nairaland shall not escape except they repent.

It's funny how the only way you think your loving god can respond to lack of belief is wrath. Bwahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
i have already finished defending which is why you started knocking yourself on the wall of Truth as your engine knocked and entered into repeat mode, like a scratched cd, "repeat, repeat, repeat".

No Road Loser! hahajahahaha

LoLz. You didn't defend jack.

Meanwhile keep arguing with your bible.

Leviticus 25:46
And you may take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them as a possession; they shall be your permanent slaves. But regarding your brethren, the children of Israel, you shall not rule over one another with rigor.

Dtruthspeaker:
hahahaha Looser! E no work Loser! I don explain am and you no fit counter and so you kon knock enter repeat mode

No Road, Satanreed, ABSOLUTELY NO ROAD LOOSER! Hahahahaha

Bwahahahahaha! You that couldn't produce even 1 Bible passage to defend your crap. Keep arguing with your bible.

Leviticus 25:46
And you may take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them as a possession; they shall be your permanent slaves. But regarding your brethren, the children of Israel, you shall not rule over one another with rigor.

terrezo2002:
You don't know when your questions have been answered because you have established an answer in your heart

This is basic English, when someone asks how to distinguish between 2 identical things, its not an answer to give something that is already the same in both.

jaephoenix:
Right…

Here you go…

Leviticus 25:44-46
King James Version
And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have—from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves

LordReed make I borrow your laugh small…
Bwahahahahahahaha

Abeg make e full your belle, the guy is as ridiculous as they come. Bwahahahahaha!