₦airaland Forum

terrezo2002:
The atheists will rush to take the mark of the beast. They will persecute and mock those who refuse to take the mark.
Those who refuse the mark will be termed as enemies of the state. They will be imprisoned and tortured for not obeying the law.
Those who have the mark are doomed forever. They will worship the beast and enjoy the rest of the 3 and a half years.
The next 3 and a half years shall be an immense terror for them.

When is this supposed to happen?

Parachoko:
Person wey buy am go don use him money on top am before it gets damage.

And it might even have a warranty sef

Warranty doesn't cover "acts of god".

jaephoenix:
Dude has all sorts of bias going on in his head. It would be a pleasure to do a mental state exam on him

To be a fly on the wall on such an exam. LoLz.

HardMirror:
LordReed remember the thread i opened 3 weeks ago? Lol.
I hope those little children thinking this policy eont affect them have parent working in the bank that ca supply them the money.
Imagine some idiots saying we should make all payments with transfer or we should use 100 naira notes. You would know they are still feeding from their parent and have no responsibilities.
The pos woman that was giing me new note cannot even get it any more. Lol

LoLz. Do people not understand how connected monetary systems are?

GloriousGbola:
Local support. The real question. So if you live in katsina and you have a starlink device that goes down, where is your support coming from?

Exactly. None. Device gets damaged, you have to buy a new one.

Parachoko:
Storms that do happen in Nigeria are not as powerful as storms in the USA abeg

So? Whether you are in the US or Nigeria if the device gets damaged you may have to order a new one, there are no serviceable parts in it.

Dtruthspeaker:
We are not talking about revaluation and devaluation in other places but about the recent never before seen hardness being experienced in Nigeria presently.

I was not in zimb or venz of Ghan to know the Truth of their situation and neither was I talking about those places.

That's what I'm saying, you are blinded by your local woes. Everybody thinks "na their own bad pass", forgetting that others may have it even worse. Your local troubles pale to insignificance in the larger picture and it still doesn't fit your so called prophecy.

Dtruthspeaker:
The present never happened nor seen before hardness is clearly an indication of the prophecy.

LoLz. You are joking right? You should find out about Zimbabwe or Venezuela. Ghana has had its currency revalued 3 times in the past 50 years. Your local woes are blinding you.

Dtruthspeaker:
The great bulk deal with cash. The poor and very poor deal with cash and I see and hear their pain except that they are distracted by selling black market fuel.

But the hardness is definitely biting.

Still not your storybook's "prophecy".

mjuvey3:
Have you ever been super thirsty and you get hold of a chilled canned coke and gulp it up?

That feeling is out of this world.

I take coke a lot but I work out and eat bitter kola to supress the sugar.

LoLz @ supress the sugar. FYI it doesn't.

2elliot:
Una go just dey argue blindly just because you read one or two books written by freemanson scientist who wants to hide God. This world is deep, and that their are forces against us, but some of you are close minded and have been deceived. We have persistently told you all, that the battle between good and evil is raging strong like ever and is now close to the climax. Every conspiracy we told you guys that you disbelieved is becoming reality. From the covid scam to the deadly gene therapy vaccines down to the 5G being evil, and the world unveiling the digital one world currency and government, and the unveiling of the beast(antichrist). The stage is set.

And you read one ancient storybook, started seeing enemies in every shadow and passing wall gecko. Sorry not sorry I ain't joining your paranoia. Your conspiracy nonsense still remains nonsense.

Dtruthspeaker:
I did not say buying and selling has come to a halt but it has greatly impeded trading most especially as many of the other popular alternatives all seem to have stopped working at the same time leaving people pursuing those things called new notes.

That's for people deal primarily with cash. Still it doesn't fit your so called prophecy.

christistruth01:
All your information is wrong and your Pride continues to hinder your acceptance of the

Truth

Faraday was a Christian Fundamentalist Pastor and an Evangelical Pastor

Tesla got most of his Scientific breakthroughs as revelations and Visions from God
Tesla didn't backslide he was a devoted Christian all his life


Isaac Newton was a deeply religious man who believed that Jesus Christ was the Messiah
and in the second coming of Christ he may have made some doctrinal errors but he was not a herectic


Galileo who said that the World was round (though Prophet Isaiah already said it in Isaiah 40:22) was another very deeply religious Christian

So do you think everything Newton said was true and correct?

Dtruthspeaker:
Let's say the Truth, this currency wahala has impeded regular trading which used to be sweet and comfortable.

But now, the devils have made everyone pursue that which is their right and buying and selling has become constrained, thus, is this not the beginning of the fulfillment of the prophecy that buying and selling would be impossible without the mark?

Nigeria isn't the first nation to experience a currency crisis nor is it likely to be the last. Its like saying the sun will rise tomorrow, you don't need an prophecy to know that.

Besides the lack of paper money hasn't precluded people from buying and selling freely so it doesn't even fit.

Lukgaf:
I'm happy to read Starlink has made its way to Nigeria, bringing an end to the frustration caused by subpar 2G providers claiming to offer 4G/5G services. Although the cost of the Starlink device may be high (around 200k), the quality-wise monthly subscription is relatively affordable, making it a viable option for many.

This arrival of Starlink is sure to shake up the market and force the competition, such as Uncle Yellow, Green, and Red, to step up their game.

Not really. It's a fixed access device, it doesn't compete with mobile Internet access. It might affect their corporate sales though but Starlink's capital outset is pretty high comparatively. Also you can't repair any of the hardware components if they get damaged and given the nature of our storms likelihood of damage might be quite high.

FxMasterz:
Fact from logic. Please take a look at the logic I presented. And also from my subsequent discourse. You'll see why I came to that conclusion.

Logic is not fact. Facts are pieces of information that have been shown to be real or true. Logic is reasoning based on non fallacious premises and conclusions. The 2 are not the same. So basically your statements are just conjectures you are making not facts.

FxMasterz:
I never said they were. I was using logic to find out what they could have been because that points us to truths derived from the roots.

You did. You said:

FxMasterz:
Logically looking at it all, the begining wasn't atheism. That's fact. The first humans were theists.

You even declared it as a fact. Show me how you know it for a fact.

FxMasterz:
Bro, religion dates far into man's distant past. The first humans have a better understanding of these things than we whose religious histories have been majorly lost, and what we now call religion generally is a metamorphosis.

First, we need to understand that no one invented religion. It was actually in our roots. The first ancestors worshiped something or someone. Then, several generations afterwards, that something or someone became less known since everything at the time was passed down through oral history.

Then cane a generation that does not know what to worship but know they must worship something or someone as their fathers did, resulting in a mutiplicity of gods as everyone worships what he seems fit.

Generations later, some people are asking 'Is there really a God? Is there really an Afterlife?' if we have traceable records, I'm 100% certain we'll find the first Atheist who ever lived. This means the human race didn't take off in Atheism and then plunged itself into religion as we have it today. The Agnostics are themselves confused because they don't know what to believe.

The whole argument would have been easier if we have ancient records of things from the earliest man but the very lack of this is the reason why we all have disagreements.

However, even if such ancient records exist, many would still doubt such records. There are those who'll call them Fabrications. And of course, there are those unscrupulous elements who'll try to do mischievous forgeries and scripts for some personal gains at the expense of others.

Logically looking at it all, the begining wasn't atheism. That's fact. The first humans were theists. That should point us to some truths. They evidently were theists because they knew or even saw what they worshipped.
They also knew why they were worshipping him, it or them. They've passed the concept down to the entire human race who have now lost the identity of what was worshipped, and now the confusion.

Except we can prove that Atheism was the first thing humans ever did before veering into religion, we cannot safely void this kind of reasoning.

How do you know the first humans were theists?

Workch:
sincerely I did, I couldn't believe that I was wrong and that there could be ever be a superior argument.
I use to think that Atheism is the most correct philosophical position, it was hard for me to accept that I am wrong but eventually I did. I didn't agree immediately.

It's a process, you will get it all worked out. The more I try to convince you, the more defensive you will get. I know I have given you all necessary info to make that decision.

Yoi need time to digest and analyze them.

Fortunately I don't think like you do that there are "more superior arguments" that should sway me. The only thing that sways me is evidence, that is why I became an atheist and the only thing that will dissuade me.

Workch:
My friend Reed, you are currently struggling to figure whom you really are currently.
I am sure that you will get it all worked out.

Change is constant my dear fellow. You struggled to change from being an atheist did you not? LoLz.

Workch:
second, igtheism doesn't infer that the question of God is meaningless because it doesn't have any relevance in our lives, igtheism sees the question of God as irrelevant because it feels that the definition of God is not precise. It's ambigious.
It has nothing to do with whether or not it's relevant to one's life.

I am giving you a very definite definition for God now: An entity that caused the singularity before the big bang to happen.

LoLz. I didn't say that irrelevance is the definition of igtheism. I said it was making me lean towards igtheism.

Well good for you. The god question is irrelevant to me.

Workch:
I don't think this is correct, whether it not it relevant to your life doesn't mean it's not a possibility.

What happens in Antarctica may not be relevant to your life, it doesn't mean that Antarctica is not a thing.

Whether aliens exist or not may not be relevant to your life, it doesn't mean that we should not answer the questions of aliens.

LoLz. It's true, no one is stopping you from finding out the truth of irrelevant things.

Dtruthspeaker:
The mere fact that a person discards a thing eg a car or phone because they do not like it does not affects it's relevancy.

It is only the discarder who suffers the lack of enjoyment and benefit of using that thing but other users can continue enjoying it.

Of course!

FatherOfJesus:
I live like it's not relevant.

Exactly. The god question becomes quite irrelevant once you discard belief.

A001:
But you'll have to have definite knowledge of god to live like it's relevant to your existence.

As an agnostic, I don't have definite knowledge of god's existence so god is not relevant to my existence. I live my life that way.

Exactly. Once you discard belief the god question becomes irrelevant to your life.

Workch:
It's obviously not relevant to me.
Why should this matter?
People who think god exist will say otherwise. They live their lives based on the supposed relevance for their various gods.

LoLz. Exactly. The god question is quite irrelevant once you see it has no effect in your life. I did tell you I was beginning to lean igtheist and this is is one of the reasons.

Workch:
1. Theism
Theism argues that their specific gods exist because they have personal conviction and relationships with them, irrespective of the myriad of evidence against them. It doesn't matter how much evidence against it that you have, it's personal to them, so they will reject whichever evidence you try to present against that God.

2. Deism
Deism argue that a god/creator must exist because the universe didn't just pop out of no where, something must have created it. However this something that we call god does not intervene in the proceedings of the universe through revelations and miracles, because the evidence available suggest that the creator doesn't.

3. Atheism
Atheism argue generally that there are no evidence for the existence of any god, hence they reject all. They have evidence against theistic gods and reject them in that regard but they do not have evidence against a deistic god but they still reject it.

4. Pure Agnosticism
Agnosticism does not make conclusions unless evidence is available for or against. Agnosticism will reject the existence of many theistic god on the basis of availability of evidence against their existence but they neither reject or accept the existence of a deistic god because of unavailability of evidence for or against it. Some Agnostics are of the opinion that the existence of a deistic god is unknowable while some may think that we have insufficient knowledge to know, we may find out in future.



Which of the 4 arguments is the most logical to make sure one avoids the fallacies statetd below.

Here is a related question: do you live like a god is relevant to your existence or do you live like a god is not relevant to your existence?

christistruth01:
The moon moves around the Earth

If it was moving away from the Earth you would have stopped seeing it long ago

It is moving away slowly. It used be closer than it is now. The movement is a few centimeters a year so it will take a long time, nevertheless it is moving so it is not "perfectly" being kept by your god.

christistruth01:
I did it at degree Level

Go and read about Photosynthesis

It could only be God ordering each step perfectly



Do you know why they moon has not yet Crashed into the Earth despite

moving round it every month?

It is God that keeps it perfectly in Place

FYI the moon is moving AWAY from the Earth, your god is not keeping it perfectly in place. LMFAO!

Trollronaldo:
if the position of the observer is close to the sun at that moment.

However, due to superppstioning and the fact that every matter exist as a particle and wave simultaneously, this particular observer that is traveling at 0.0001m/s less than light will be almost everywhere at the same time in the universe because of its wave functions.

LoLz. Light doesn’t behave this way. If light was simultaneously everywhere in the universe then it wouldn't take light 8mins to traverse from the sun to the Earth and by implication we would see exactly when suns far away from us go supernova plus many other things.

Trollronaldo:
An observer traveling at a speed 0.0001m/s slower than light will feel the disappearance of the sun almost immediately that it would be considered immediately.

At what distance from the sun is this observer?

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes na! You came back from work one night and you see one bulb off and hue it was beautiful. So dead bulb stays dead.

Bwahahahahahahahaha!