Femzaremz: I saw the reply the guy you quoted gave to this post and I realized many theist are either psychos or they don't really sit down to think about the things in their religion! In real life when I argue with christians, I get the same reply as your friend, they all have no problem with an all powerful, benevolent merciful God punishing people infinitely for finite crimes (which is even his fault in the first place!) At this point it is safe to say it is only outside religion you can really see the madness and depravity that is really theism! This their sycophancy towards an alleged loving father is really sickening!
When you are steeped in a belief it is very hard to think of that belief in a negative light because you'll have to admit that your beliefs are rubbish which will lead you to asking yourself why you believe in rubbish. Coupled with the fear drilled into them that if they exit the religion something bad will happen to them, they never make the leap. I have some empathy for them cos I used to be that scared person, afraid to look at my beliefs and admit they sounded bizarre.
Image123: Even humans are called gods in the Bible. Anything and anyone can be turned into a god, people worship science, music, football, education, animals, devil etc. The distinction there is that there is one God and there are other gods. God is Eternal, gods are created. That's what the Bible teaches.
Exactly, so you are a monolatrist not a monotheist.
loveymom: I can't convince myself to eat beans and bread; the thought is aborted even before I think about it. I will instead go for beans and soaked garri or with pap.
Hismasterpiece: These are not the same thing and you know it. None of these say anything about seeing buddah. And they are not as clear and detailed as the accounts I shared with you.
This conversation is about afterlife not Buddha. Their NDEs apparently validate their beliefs so I ask you once again should I consider their testimonies as valid and become a Buddhist?
Hismasterpiece: How is Bill Wiese and Kenneth Hagin ancient history? These are things that happened in modern times. Sigh. There really is no convincing you is there? I just feel sorry for you atheists. Especially you who used to be a Christian and know about the Gospel. There is a greater condemnation to those who knew the truth and rejected it. Sigh.
And I'm sure that when you're in hell being punished you'll remember these conversations you had with Christians and will be full of regret and remorse but it will be too late. I just hope that at some point before you die you reconsider your beliefs and turn to the living God. Sigh.
I wasn't talking of them but of your 2nd paragraph.
Did you watch the videos? Are you convinced that Freya the Norse goddess is alive?
OpenYourEyes1: I guess certain people haven't still realized that the purpose of Russia's activities in neibouring regions is to prevent/delay chaos. Russia has been given great military power and will certainly use it to punish those who want to test her. I knew the self defense excuse will come up but thought I should be posting about it tommorow only to see them using it already. To NATO and others, you are way below Russia in military strength currently. Stop fighting her else you will be punished.
What are you defending by the way? Hope it's not evil you are trying to defend..it won't work either. Evil will be exposed and punished. If you are trying to defend innocent people, make sure you don't gamble (or take big risk), if you do and create problems, you will be punished. If you want to remain stubborn and don't want to be guided by those who see, then be ready to pay the consequences of creating problems while stumbling as a blind organization.
*Note: Those I consider Innocent = The truely Innocent and those that have obtained mercy because they have really changed. Hope you can get or convince the CREATOR to show mercy.
LMAO! 5 weeks and Russia can't take Ukraine and you think they can withstand NATO? I think whatever juice you are drinking has been spiked with psychotropic substances. Bwahahahahaha!
Hismasterpiece: Okay, so I don't know of any accounts of people who saw buddah during a near death experience/
It is impossible for people to all see the same thing when they have a near death experience. Especially atheists, because they don't believe in those things.
It is more than the brain. Normally when we dream we forget the things that we dream almost immediately after waking up. But these people don't just see they also feel and experience things the same way they would if they were to experience them in the physical world.
Also, what reason do they have to lie? Its not like they receive money for sharing their testimony
I just told you I saw Jesus and he told me it's all in your head, what reason would I have to lie?
Hismasterpiece: Asides from appearing to people over 2000 years ago He still appears to people presently. He appeared to Kenneth Hagin severally when he was alive, He appeared to Bill Wiese when He gave him a vision of hell and apart from those He still appears to people till this very day. There are numerous accounts of this on youtube. Did you even watch the videos I shared with you on our other conversation?
Oh and by the way, the early disciples didn't just win people over by simply telling them about Jesus' appearances... there were signs and wonders that followed their testimony which were indeed confirmations from God regarding their testimony about His Son. People believed when they saw the signs. This is properly documented in scripture.
Please stop with the ancient history I am asking about present day. So once again the question is do you think visions are a sufficient evidence? I just listened to someone who said Freya the Norse goddess walked bodily into his room and spoke not only to him but his wife also, does that convince you that Freya is real and alive? Note this guy also used to be a Christian.
Hismasterpiece: Isa 55:8 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," says the LORD. Isa 55:9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.
You need to understand that your thinking is finite. God doesn't reason the way that man does. God's wisdom is foolishness to us and out wisdom is foolishness to God.
Of course it doesn't make sense to you. Why would God infinitely punish people for finite crimes? But that's the beauty of faith. It means we accept God's truth even when we don't fully understand it because truth be told no one can completely understand God's entire revelation.
All I know is that the same God that offers infinite punishment also offers infinite mercies and I am blessed to be among the few who know the truth about God.
If you are waiting to fully grasp the wisdom of God before accepting Him then you'll wait forever because you'll never fully grasp it.
So the god gave me a brain to bypass it when it comes to him? Well that doesn't make sense either. In any case I am happy to take my chances, if there is a god that gave me a brain to reason with but says be foolish in other to please me then he is the one to blame not me.
Yes but he is 3 in 1 with other lesser gods called angels and demons. And the demons have their own supreme ruler called Satan who is another lesser god. Behold the Christian pantheon. Let's not forget the Catholics who also include Mary and the Saints as another strata of divine beings. LoLz.
Sometimes I think Christians should stop calling themselves monotheists and accept that they are monolatrists.
Dtruthspeaker: He was not asking a question whether he is the one thinking it or it is another person who is inside him speaking for he has already observed what is there a difference between his own thoughts and thinkings as different from "other voices and opinions" which slide into him, which he knew were not his own.
That is a man who knows himself, so there is no thing for you to say especially as you are fully evil and the only thoughts you have are always evil, whether Satan speaks or not, therefore you can no longer give any valid comment on this.
Fatbam003: My landlord has been preparing for her daughters marriage a week long now ,As I was about leaving my apartment to get foodstuffs this morning, I saw by the window side big fresh tomatoes very plenty with forest pepper and numerous big onions. The thought flashed through my mind that this is a big opportunity to cashout , another thought solemnly came what if you are caught in the trap it could be a setup to disgrace and bring shame to me . I was still fighting this thoughts when suddenly a woman appeared from the back door and headed straight to the tomatoes to start sorting it . I acted as if I was on call to quickly discharge myself thanking My stars because it would have been a shame . I learned another lesson that most times when we think we should ask am I the one thinking this thought ?
Dtruthspeaker: "Quote the Bible verse?" Have you become that stupid that you would enter into soakaway pit so that you could raise a stupid question?
Common Sense, would have told that, that is why we have "common sense" what we call "implication" or "implied terms", which told you and should have told you that when all servants are released every 7 years, it is not going to be very discouraging, keeping slaves.
And I know you knew this but because you are always evil, you had to ask this very stupid question.
LoLz! Just say you are bringing this conjecture from between your butt cheeks. Bwahahahahaha!
Dtruthspeaker: All the fake laws called legal, men made are all based on "An eye for an eye".
Secondly, The rule on slavery is meant to wean and cure off the Israelites from practicing slavery which they were already accustomed to doing, which is why The Laws of Strangers and Usury and Jubilee and 7 Years are in place to checkmate and discourage slavery,
So, you have no point here.
Quote the Bible verse stating the goal of weaning them off slavery.
Image123: Are you kidding me? Does the Bible not tell you to FLEE from fornication and to cut off whatever makes you to sin and abstain from all appearances of evil? Did anyone deceive you that being born again makes you not susceptible to temptation. Have you ever heard that the flesh is weak? Or what rubbish are you saying trying to downplay being spiritual?
LoLz. Read the post again this time sloooowly. Bwahahahahaha!
chioma134: This post was triggered by an earlier post I saw where the poster was having long talks with his friend's wife. I've been in a similar situation. I changed location and had to be separate from my family due to work. I was lonely and needed a friend. I talk with my husband regularly, but his interests are not my interests, so I find that besides household and family matters, we have little else to talk about. I found myself talking to this guy I met when I went for an official assignment. We started as friends, but we became attracted to each other. So when I travelled back to base, we started these long conversations. We're both born-again Christians and both married, so we kept to certain boundaries. I enjoyed conversing with him more than with my spouse. I became consumed with thoughts of him. He also expressed his desire and attraction towards me, but we laughed over it as jokes.
My husband noticed the conversations when I travelled home and became suspicious. He forbade me from speaking with him. He had never seen me have long talks with any friend, talkless of a male one. I informed my friend and he said no problem, he would wait till I travelled back to work base before he would continue. He later travelled to meet his family and conversation became scanty. I realized how much I was addicted to him when I couldn't talk to him as much as I wanted. He returned to base and we continued like before.
I started praying for God to help me overcome these desires. Maybe he also felt the same, because for some reasons I don't know, he reduced the frequency of calls and chats drastically. I didn't try to find out why, just thought the time-off would help me clear out immoral thoughts. But I got hurt when he acted indifferent on one occasion when I felt he should have shown more care. I asked him about it and he pretended not to understand what I was talking about. I read the writing on the wall, and decided to play along. So I said "bye. It was nice meeting you." Part of me was grateful it ended, another part was wishing I could still be with him. I love my husband and children, I cannot come and scatter my home.
He thought I was joking. I was no longer responding to his chats, and when I did, only with monosyllables. He became hurt and accused me of going silent on him. I told him he started it. He wanted me to become defensive, but the Holy Spirit whispered "keep quiet ". So I allowed him rant without saying anything. I thank God I didn't, because I would have exposed how deep my true feelings for him were.
Right now, he chats once in a while, just general "how are you". I say "fine". My feelings have healed and I thank God we didn't continue because I wouldn't have been able to stop myself from an affair if we had eventually had any physical contact. I can categorically say I'm no longer in love with him.
I penned these down for those struggling with similar situations. Just cut off the relationship. Stop conversation, chatting, or physical contact. Then pray for God to help you overcome those lusty feelings.
I hope people learn from this. Being religious doesn't make you any less or more human. You are still human and don't have any special power that will make you less susceptible to the vagaries of life.
OpenYourEyes1: If it's far more advanced, imagine how advanced the New Law is. I was listening to the old law days ago and I was shocked how intelligently it was put together to fit the ancient people and their peculiar situation. I believe strongly it was extremely moral and reasonable than any law in existence then. I compared it with the laws of worldly nations today and it still sounds more advanced and reasonable.
Now compare that with the New Law from GOD to believers, you would understand how extremely advanced, reasonable and holy the New Law is. Just imagine what the � World will be like if it follows the New Law.
Aside the devil thing I agree however some of us have issues regulating our moods and may need therapy or medication. If you are reading this and are one of those, seek help, it will make your life better.
Datikwerreboi: As a married person who has been used to flesh to flesh with your partner ,it is actually had using a condom when playing away for any reason. Because it will seem like a condom removes the fun. Mind you I don't cheat but I have come to see why it is so, though it shouldn't be BC they're many STIs and pregnancy
It's a garbage reason. There are condoms that provide more tactile sensation, if their problem is feeling robbed of sensation then get those types of condoms. You know what is more likely, they are ashamed of being seen buying condoms because condom use has some social stigma still attached to it.
1. It doesn't make sense that this is the solution an all wise god came up with.
2. It doesn't make sense that infinite punishment for finite crimes is considered justice.
3. It doesn't make sense that the so called loving god will waste 99% of the human population because they can't meet some impossible standard. And I am being generous because I doubt even 1 person can meet these impossible standard but I understand you think the blood of Jesus saves you from hell so I can grant that some people have lived so well that their shortcomings are covered by the blood of Jesus. However those people will be or have been exceptionally rare going by what we know of human nature.
4. It doesn't make sense that being unable to have faith in an insufficiently evidenced god is grounds for infinite punishment. There are probably billions of people who never believed in your god mostly because they never heard about him but your god is going to toss em in hell all the same.
5. It doesn't make sense that the god knew this infinite punishment for the vast majority of humanity was going to be the outcome and still went ahead to create humanity exactly as he envisioned.
6. It doesn't make sense that people will suffer such debilitating hardship all their life and your god will cause them to suffer infinitely.
I am sure if I reason some more I can point out much more why it doesn't make sense but these are the ones at the tip of my fingers.
Hismasterpiece: 1. The appearances. After He resurrected He appeared to all His disciples at different times and also to 500 disciples at once and also to the apostle Paul (1 Corinthians 15). This is why His disciples believed that He had risen from the dead. Some have argued that all the people who saw Him alive were hallucinating but the fact is that His disciples weren't expecting Him to rise from the dead at all, because they weren't expecting Him to do so and they wouldn't have jumped to the conclusion that He had risen from the dead when He appeared to them. Also, it is impossible for 12 or 500 people to hallucinate the same thing at the same time.
2. The empty grave. The disciples checked the grave to see if He was still there and if He was still there they wouldn't have gone around telling everyone that He has risen from the dead. Even the Pharisees knew that He had risen from the dead because the soldiers guarding the grave went and reported what had happened to them. One may argue that someone may have carried His away to hide but that wouldn't have led the disciples to conclude that He had risen from the dead and also, the soldiers guarding the tomb wouldn't have gone to report what had happened if the body was simply stolen.
3. The conviction. The disciples faced strong persecution because they preached that Jesus had risen from the dead. If indeed they were lying they would have fessed up when they were being beaten and tortured.
How is people testifying that someone was alive 2000years ago evidence that he is alive today? I didn't ask for evidence that he resurrected, I asked you for evidence that he is alive at this moment.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by LordReed(m): 5:07pm On Apr 08, 2022
