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frank317:
When u keep on sayin people are frustrated for no reason, it is only a sign that u are frustrated.

I feel sorry for ur like... forcing urselve to believe something so imaginary, praying and visualizing things and making up stories just to support ur belief... have u given ur imaginary creator ur tithe for this month? he needs ur money to complete ur mansion that u will live in when u die...

Heavenly mortgage. Mansion you won't see till you die. LoLz. Chai which kine scam be this? Almost like selling someone 3rd Mainland bridge. Bwahahahahaha!

Hismasterpiece:
This is my reasoning. I have seen a person healed when I prayed for her. The Bible teaches that it is possible and is true concerning that subject. So I reason thus; if what the Bible says about a believer praying for a sick person's healing is true then what about what it says about everything else? About hell, other religions, etc..

Capisce?

LoLz. So how you know the Bible is true is because you prayed for a sick person and they recovered. So if I show you a Muslim or Buddhist claiming the same thing you'll believe? Because you have to be consistent with your method. If this is what convinced you that what you believe is true then you must apply same to other religions.

Image123:
This is 100% different from what you quoted though. You are not the first genuine believer to backslide. It is ridiculous to imply what you just implied for every serious person. Every one is not your subjective experience. Ask your spouse evidently. There are people who have gone deeper and continue to go deeper.

Unless you are gonna tell me that you have never experienced any doubts about your beliefs then yes I will tell you that everyone will get disillusioned at some point. Or do you think disillusionment means loosing faith completely? Check the meaning.

Dtruthspeaker:
I never had this. When I was young I thought all churches were the same except for white garment church which disturbed my spirit, so I did not care which church I went.

I learnt many many things as I noticed many many things. How my neighbours seemed angry I came to their church (Catholic), why say they are Christians and yet they were wicked And when you challenge them that it is wicked and not good and that God says it is not good they got angrily berserk and even wickeder.

I thought it right to "do them back" but I noticed I suffered seriously when I revenged. I didn't know then that truly that "Do not revenge" statement that used to fly around was True!

So, I started studying the Bible for myself to see what else was True, which I have seen!

And, I long figured that the walk with God was very very personal. There is almost no collective walk with God. The oeople who I thought were good people, I saw that they secretly loved wickedness and took the opportunity to be wicked when it presented itself.
The people who were wicked also confirmed that they loved being wicked and that it is a mistake to give them opportunity to do you wickedness.

And I did not want to be any of these people, hence my admiration for people in the Bible, since the living people I see fell short.

And that is what has safely and interestingly and wonderfully and beautiful and gloriously brought me this far.

AND THE BEST PART I LOVE IS THAT I HAVE BEATEN ALL OF THOSE AROUND ME IN ALL THINGS.

So you can see now why I said, it is impossible for me to leave God, FOR IT IS HE WHO MADE ME WHO I AM NOW, EVEN WHEN IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE!

So, disillusionment was no where near me for I saw people became what they wanted to be, as Dmx said

"We each walk the paths we have chosen"

I CHOSE THE WAY OF THE LORD AND IT IS EXACTLY AS IS WRITTEN!

The fact that you don't go to any church is indicative of your disillusionment with organised religion. You are obviously disappointed with the churches as they are, you won't go to any other religions temple to worship either so yes indeed you are disillusioned with organised religion.

Hismasterpiece:
I could say the same about your disbelief in the Bible.

Tell me one thing I have twisted about the bible.

Image123:
And it's a fable because?? Lwkm "you think so". Your poor and funny thoughts yet again.

It's a fable because it doesn't represent reality. Heaven's viewpoint that has no objective reality is a fable to give you comfort because of the fear of the unknown, death. So you agree with the story in faith. LoLz.

Image123:
Joh 11:26 KJV And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

We have Heaven's viewpoint, learn.

LoLz! You have a fable viewpoint. Learn.

Dtruthspeaker:
Unlike you and many other people, my Love for God grew up with me. Since my childhood in Methodist Sunday school, I loved Him, and my love for Him only increased, as I grew up!

And now, my love is too too too much for God is Too Too Unending Too Much!

O, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT I WOULD HAVE FOUND PSALM 23 LIVING, (EDEN) THEN NA ME GO KON PACK MY BAG SAY I WAN TRAVEL COMOT, WHOOSAI!

E NO POSSIBLE!

I LIVE THERE FOREVER. NA MY HOUSE BE DAT!

I grew up Catholic, went to Methodist secondary school, joined Winners, shifted to Redeemed, checked out COZA, checked out Family Worship, now wife wants to stay in Family Worship. So my guy we have been there and done that but here we are. That disillusionment you felt with organised religion is almost inevitable to anyone who tries to take it seriously, some like me realise it has more significance than merely a sign that the devil is at work.

Image123:
Aim high: an advice i have continued to successfully follow and will not stop following.
The Sky, not the grave is our goal. Keep your goal, we'll keep ours.

LoLz! It's always hilarious to hear you people talk as if you won't die. Bwahahahahaha!

Dtruthspeaker:
None! But I went through Methodist, (Childhood), Methodist/Catholic, (secondary school), Redeemed (University), wife made me run through Catholic again. and by the accumulation of all I learnt, I observed God was leaving churches as Written, (which I did not know at the time, only that I have learnt to watch what is going on, so I knew) until it was unbearable to stay in Catholic, even wife too. Then I checked Redeemed, same thing. Then I completely stopped. And it was after that, that people started noticing that church was dry. And I was like, "una no feel am since? Na so una don die reach?"

So, there you have it. I don't go to any church nor associate with any group of people.

Psalm 1 is my Law of Association and ^ Bible, my Pastor!

LoLz! Also similar to my experience. Maybe you'll be the one to become an atheist. Bwahahahahahaha!

envoymedia:
https://igberetvnews.com/1418052/time-2face-idibia-gets-vasectomy-shade-ladipo-advises/

What nonsense. It's none of her business.

Image123:
Wrong answer, it's what you think though not what will be.

When you have evidence to present lemme know.

The people left on earth will continue their activities while the organism that was me will be off like a TV that has lost power.

Dtruthspeaker:
You already know he just picked up out of the lot, where he thinks I stand, exactly as I did). And you already know, I do not stand there.

Ok but I don't know where you stand except that you are a Christian. What church do you attend?

CAPSLOCKED:
THIS IS A REALLY IDĮOTIC EXAMPLE THAT I WOULDN'T APPRECIATE EVEN IF YOU HAD REPLACED CAPSLOCKED WITH YOURSELF.
FOR SOMEONE THAT SHAMELESSLY FLAUNT THE BANNER OF THE LORD'S CHOSEN CHURCH I CAN CONCRETELY CONCLUDE THAT THE LORD OF MADNESS TRUTHFULLY CHOSE YOU TO CONTINUOUSLY SPEW RUBBISH LIKE THIS FOR THE REST OF YOUR WORTHLESS LIFE.

Oh so he is a Chosen member. Interesting.

wolesmile:
No be me do this foolish thing. But it involved me.

E don tey small. I live around Ikotun, by the way. There is this church on the street I used to live then (just 2 blocks away.)
Me I like cats, especially those multicoloured ones. So I have like four (A mother cat and her 3 grown up babies.)
That particular evening (can't remember what day of the week it was again,) I think maybe a meeting or fellowship was going on in the church. Or perhaps a prayer meeting. One of my cats strayed into the church. What attracted my attention (cos I was relaxing outside) was the sudden outburst of prayer from the church. They were binding and casting... Calling on fire from heaven to come burn the daemon that came into their midst.
I saw some people looking towards the church kind of funny, so out of curiosity, me sef waka go there. Lo and behold, one of my cats was standing at the entrance to the church, and being very used to playing amongst people, was watching them with interest as they were pointing their Bible towards it and casting and binding.
I just smiled, walked to their entrance and picked up my cat. I said "Sorry. My cat."
Till date, I still remember the looks on their faces. Mumu plenty for this Nigeria.

LoLz! The witch don come carry him kaya. Bwahahahahaha!

EBMedia:
https://igberetvnews.com/1418039/catholic-church-believes-separation-bed-divorce-rev-father-oluoma/

LoLz. Distinction without difference.

Hismasterpiece:
No one believes their ancestors were monkeys? Then what is the theory of evolution built on? The pic below says it all.

Sometimes half knowledge is worse than no knowledge. You know enough to twist what the theory of evolution says and twist it to suit whatever ill informed narrative you want. LoLz.

Hismasterpiece:
That's the thing... all religions have some truth... but Christianity has ALL truth... if a Muslim told me about his experience it wouldn't validate his beliefs because his beliefs are wrong... we believe that there is one God who rules all the other gods and spirits of every other religion.. our God is the supreme God..

LoLz! I just asked you how you know what you believe is true and you said experience yet you are unwilling to use the same yardstick for a different religion so who is the dogmatic one now?

Besides your method of knowing truth is flawed since you can can simply eliminate a different belief as being true just because it is different, that means experience is not the way you know your beliefs are true. Do you want to try again, how do you know what you believe is true, it certainly isn't by experience since you have revealed that you don't use that yardstick for other beliefs.

Dtruthspeaker:
Then you should have stayed disinterestingly out.

You didn't start the thread, I am not interested in what you have to say.

Dtruthspeaker:
Jws are not Christians. They are your partially identical evil twin who try to hide that they are evil as you are!

Not interested Mr Gatekeeper. LoLz.

Hismasterpiece:
Like I have told you in our previous interactions: Experience. I have experienced the spiritual, so I'm am a firm believer in it.

So you would sam=y experience validates any position? So if a a person of any other faith has an experience would you agree it validates their faith and proves that their beliefs are true?

mrman1999:
No need man.. I'm not immortal... I took sniper the other day and I passed out and came back some hours later..

mrman1999:
Ok. What can I do to prove myself?

Nevermind, you are just a storyteller. I have had my fun, time to give it a rest.

Hismasterpiece:
Oya ask your questions

How do you know what you believe is true?

Hismasterpiece:
Lol.. Because I know answering them would be in vain because you are set in your beliefs and unwilling to consider the fact that you might be wrong.. But anyways, I will be answering your questions from now on.. Do you have any new questions for me?

It is you who is set in his beliefs not me, that's why you refuse to answer the question because you know it requires you to think outside the box your beliefs put you. I am free to consider everything not just the narrow beliefs of my favourite Jewish mythology.

Praying against a bag of trash on a roof with a group of fellow believers because we were told it was demonic. LoLz!

PastorMIsBack:
I think I’m now being systematically banned as since last night, 10th April, I’ve been getting the message

Please wait for a few minutes before submitting this post. Our server is overwhelmed.

I’ve had to try over SEVERAL HOURS before eventually being able to post.

Anyway, I haven’t got time to keep on refreshing Nairaland (I still have a dissertation to submit and other essays to write).

Anytime you don’t see my DAILY post, kindly check my YouTube channels or find me on TikTok.

Or I could post it under this thread.

It may just be a coincidence, but I told @Seun on Twitter to bring NL up to this century. We should be able to block people who insult/abuse us, and we should be able to delete a thread patapata if we change our minds. Maybe he’s trying to teach me a lesson, lol.

Or has everyone else been getting the server overwhelmed message? If yes, then he really should bring NL up to this century as other sites – FB, Twitter, IG, TikTok, Reddit and others, do not have overwhelmed servers and as far as I know, they have more traffic.

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Hismasterpiece:
Ah Ah.. which questions did you ask me? If you ask me a question that I don't know the answer to i'll tell you straight up bro..

Just look at the conversations we've had this past few days and how I had to insist before you answered a simple question.

KnownUnknown:
Talk less. Go jump.

Exactly and mrman1999 film it as you do. LoLz.

Hismasterpiece:
And how do you plan on doing that? Are you going to interview different believers?

Already doing that but most of you act like you don't even know your stuff. Like you, I ask you simple questions and you go into dodge mode.

Hismasterpiece:
Simple.

There is a God

He created man for fellowship

Man turned away from God and became evil and therefore became destined for hell

God Loves man and wants to save him

God makes a way for man to be saved from hell by sending His Son Jesus.

Now all men can have fellowship with God through His Son Jesus.

No not those, these:

How do I know this

How do I know this is true

How can I exclude contrary information

Is the source of this information dependable and trustworthy

How can I verify this information

Hismasterpiece:
1Co 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
1Co 1:22 For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom;
1Co 1:23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness,
1Co 1:24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1Co 1:26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
1Co 1:27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
1Co 1:29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.
1Co 1:30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God; and righteousness and sanctification and redemption;
1Co 1:31 that, as it is written, "He who glories, let him glory in the LORD."

You do realize that when you enter hell all your atheist logic will fly out of your head and all you'll want it to leave that scary place and you'll feel deep regret for all the times you heard the Gospel and rejected it.

You really don't want to risk hell bro. Seek out and find the true God who alone can save you from that place.

LoLz! I dunno why you think scare tactics is the way you'll convince me. For the record I have been through that, getting scared of hell and all that jazz. It no longer has that effect on me. Get a better strategy bro. Bwahahahahaha!