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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:23pm On Mar 26, 2021

Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 8:02pm On Mar 25, 2021

Xbee007:
So the report that NAF is getting 2 squadron of M-346 is actually fake news. I'm not surprised though. It makes absolutely no sense that NAF would continue diversifying at such rate. It can only result in logistic and maintenance nightmare. It serves no strategic purpose too.

That's a pity. I thought the acquisition was excellent, for the following reasons:

1) the m346 is an excellent LIFT aircraft, allowing both trainer and light attack roles;
2) it's a worthy replacement for both F7 and Alpha, which will have to be replaced at some point;
3) most important, it would have simplified logistics as with phased withdrawals of F7 and Alpha, NAF would've been left with this structure:

---a) basic flight-> Mushshak
---b) intermediate-> M346
---c) final-> JF17.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 7:45pm On Mar 25, 2021

kabe1:
That Ship is a small corvette.

It's gratifying to see a locally built ship of this size.

Although personally, I don't like the design, I would have much preferred a conventional design.

We have such rough seas down here even a IPV has to be over 60m or it won't fare very well.

OPVs will be more than 80m. Our current OPVs - converted Israeli missile craft - were acquired when no one else would sell due to sanctions, and will be withdrawn from service.
Sailors will be pleased cos the design suited the Mediterranean and they had terrible sea-keeping.

That's why I envy navies working in calmer waters cos they can buy lots of smaller vessels.

Personal opinion: I suspect the Sea Axe design is the way of the future for IPVs and OPVs.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:10pm On Mar 24, 2021

kabe1:
One of the 3 new inshore patrol vessels constructed for Project Biro. Three of these vessels are being built for R1.5 billion.

Based on the Stan 6211 design the basic specs are 62m length, a top speed of 30 knots, and a crew complement of 48. I think the chosen main armament is a 20mm remote-controlled cannon by Denel.

The first ship will be commissioned this year.

To add: IPVs in SA Navy classification, built in SA, with a concurrent build of an replacement for SAS Protea, the hydrographic vessel, also done locally.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:00pm On Mar 24, 2021

The idiotic nonsense on here.

1) F7 is an upgraded Mig-21, which can carry 250kg-500kg dumb bombs.
2) RAAD 1 is the Pakistani designation for the DENEL MUPSOW, currently qualified for the Mirage and JF17.
3) RAAD 2 is the extended range version, recently integrated on the Mirage and JF17, a single test firing, and not yet in production.

But what use are facts when chest-puffing means bending reality to whatever fantasies I wake up with?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 8:29pm On Mar 24, 2021

mekussa:
Please allow people dream of their nuclear missile in peace...... Must you spoil the fun?

I'd love to know how a 250-500kg dumb bomb carried on an upgraded Mig-21 platform that NAF has had for years suddenly became a nuclear or cruise missile, carried on a platform NAF received days later and has yet to officially commission.

My mate at Denel said NAF aren't idiots, maybe he meant they're geniuses who can bend time and the laws of physics.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 6:30pm On Mar 24, 2021

RAAD 1 was the Pakistani version of the Denel MUPSOW. Denel helped the Pakistanis integrate it onto the Mirage, due to South Africa having developed the weapon for that aircraft.

RAAD 2 has extended the range, and been integrated onto the JF17. According to a Denel acquaintance, "Pakistan has only done 1 test firing of the Raad2 on the Thunder, and has yet to qualify the weapon on this particular platform. The NAF aren't idiots, and would not buy a weapon that's not yet qualified by the manufacturer."

Make of that what you will.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:50pm On Mar 22, 2021

The fantasists now infest all military/defence threads on this forum! shocked

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:43pm On Mar 22, 2021

Odunayaw:
Another way to use SF

I don't know much about the operations of our SF but I think its too Direct Action focused

The fan girls here think that's the only and main thing SF is for...sadly.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:38pm On Mar 22, 2021

JOSCOFELIX:
from what i heard it was a misslie nuclear strike. army are shooting those who want to run through kaduna,kastina. ever the airstrike in lake chad nuclear strike

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 7:40am On Mar 18, 2021

SA Navy training with SAAF while a Helix ISR has a look, Cape Town, 16 March 2021.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 1:56pm On Mar 16, 2021

Odunayaw:
The structures are often in deep space and we also don't see the "land tail" in NAF videos.

Thanks for that. So NAF making the most of less than ideal joined/interoperability capabilities?

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 12:18pm On Mar 16, 2021

Odunayaw:
- Boko buildings/Structures
- HVT BH Toyotas

From NAF videos, these have been what they've been used on.

I can understand HVTs. 81mm/120mm mortars; 90mm guns, rockets etc should suffice for the rickety structures I've seen in videos.
Cheaper too.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 11:54am On Mar 16, 2021

A simple question: all the ATAKA missiles, on what will they be used? Surely not on BH Toyotas and motorcycles? Isn't it more cost effective to use guided and unguided rockets?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 8:25pm On Mar 13, 2021

Odunayaw:
I was thinking the JF17B version would serve in transitioning.

Down here the L39s are the next progression from basics towards our F7s

The B version is finishing school for the guys who've gone past the LIFT phase.

If the M346 purchase is confirmed, here's the logical progression as I see it:
1) basics in Pakistani Mush;
2) intermediary/advanced in other props like King Air;
3) intro to jets/ mid- aviation in LIFT M346;
4) final / ace in JF17.

But as I said, my logic is based on SAAF, and NAF might think differently.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 6:51pm On Mar 13, 2021

Raaven:
soviet school

The Soviets trained a whole bunch of countries which don't do the same thing?

And other Arab countries not trained by the Soviets?

For example, the Saudis are trained by the Americans, yet they still put on such shows.

The Moroccans, ditto.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 4:53pm On Mar 13, 2021

Odunayaw:
I am of the opinion the Tucs could complement the L39s even in the fighter training pipelines. Remember there is a modernization project for them (L39s)

With the coming of these M346, any JF that is not the block 3 is redundant

The various acquisitions make sense to me. The M346 is a Lead in Flight Trainer/ Light Attack.
Your pilots need to transition from your Pakistani basic trainers to jet aircraft.
If NAF is smart, a squadron will be made available as CAS support, and the rest to train future JF17 pilots.

Then again, I might be projecting: we in SA use our Hawk LIFT as a precursor to the Gripen. Hell, our Hawk cockpits have been Gripenised to ease the transition.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 1:46am On Mar 12, 2021

Sizzorkay:
And what logistics do you see is missing from the clip? serious question.
was wondering what the point of your comment was

One vehicle chasing after the terrs; no back-up. 1 vehicle with comms as I already mentioned.
No personnel placed at possible escape routes for the enemy; meaning no situational awareness after contact; and so on and so forth.

All of this has nothing to do with the abilities of the troops on the ground. But it all starts with the lack of comms on the ground.

In this very thread, go back and look at the very many pics of NA vehicles without any comms antennas, and ask yourself how they conduct ops without the most basic logistics component.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:47pm On Mar 11, 2021

Only positive I took from the video is that one of the NA vehicles had comms.

Not to be negative but all the ammo and pointy things in the world don't mean shite if logistics isn't in place.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 8:14pm On Mar 09, 2021

Raaven:
pzratroopers show

Why do elite units mostly in the Arab world like these sort of shows?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 4:44pm On Mar 09, 2021

kikuyu1:
Igbo to drive USN destroyer,an Arleigh Burke class the Halsey DDG-97. Commander Kelechi Ndukwe,the first Naijjan to be thusly honoured. Ideally,it should be a Kenyan/Naijjan or Saffa commanding this fine ship for our respective navies but still its A win FOR ALL OF US!

Don't know about Kenya or Naija, but we Saffas have no current need for a destroyer.
We are in desperate need however, for 12 x 80m or more OPVs: this would mean a pair always on patrol on both our Atlantic and Indian Ocean areas. 4 on ops/ 4 in maintenance / 4 for training.

2 SA-origin Yanks have commanded Burke class destroyers. One of whom actually exercised with one of our frigates off Spain.

I personally don't set much store by such things: these people are Americans, Brits etc, and for us to claim them is disingenuous.

I get a lot of flak from Saffas who claim Elon Musk.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 7:30pm On Mar 07, 2021

Ddream6627:
some air force guys are trained by Idf.

IDF or ex-IDF private contractors?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 5:03pm On Mar 03, 2021

BabaOwen:
If not for the NAF that do clean up the mess of the NA, shekarau will be chewing Pako in Aso rock by now, why backing up the reason he is killing Christians with quote from the Qur'an.

If it was Buratai, he will tell us is tactical withdrawal while he will be searching for the soldiers in secret.

Is it legal in Nigeria to publish people's bank details?
I've also noticed your police parading suspects they've arrested before the media, before they've appeared in court.

Here in SA both these things are illegal.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 1:18pm On Mar 03, 2021

UAE orders more drones from Denel Dynamics!

Defenceweb - 03 March 2021

UAE orders Seeker 400 UAVs for its Presidential Guard

The order was announced by Staff Brigadier-General Mohammed Al Hassani, Official Spokesperson of the IDEX and NAVDEX exhibitions, on the first day of the International Defence Exhibition (IDEX) in Abu Dhabi on 21 February.

“The UAE Armed Forces confirmed deals with Denel SOC, trading as Denel Dynamics, to provide an unmanned drone system, Seeker 400 UAE, to the Presidential Guard Command with a value of AED 50 000 000 [R204 million),” he said.

The UAE is a repeat customer for the Seeker 400, having most recently ordered AED25 821 190 (R105 million) worth of Seeker 400s in March 2020.

According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute’s Arms Transfers database, the UAE bought several batches of Seeker II aircraft in the 1990s and 2000s, Seeker 200s in 2017 and six Seeker 400 armed UAVs in 2018.

The Seeker 400 has up to 16 hours’ endurance and can carry two sensor payloads (weighing a combined 100 kg) at the same time, or guided weapons.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 1:17pm On Mar 03, 2021

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 8:31pm On Mar 02, 2021

Sizzorkay:
Iran already made clear they didn't launch the attack to cause mass casualties.
And Iraq was warned before hand i believe, the US military was also aware that the strike was coming, young military officers were placed in bunker, to preserve the future of their service, about 1k troops were evacuated before the attack. so yea they knew it was coming.
I read this yesterday from the interview the dude in charge of the troops gave

Yep, 60 Minutes was first to air the whole thing. Russia Today used their footage.
I do believe the Iranians sent an indirect warning to the US. They downloaded satellite images of the base from a commercial provider, knowing full well the US would know. They moved their missiles into position in broad daylight, again knowing Uncle Sam would be watching.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 6:46am On Mar 02, 2021

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 6:45am On Mar 02, 2021

Lurker4Long:
1 Tactical Intelligence Regiment, SA Army.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:44pm On Mar 01, 2021

lionel4power:
lol... it's not a competition.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:35pm On Feb 28, 2021

lionel4power:
Indian Army orders Kalyani M4 wheeled armoured

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK9tJh5tjxw

Ha, beat you to it here:

Lurker4Long:
More success for Paramount as Indian Army orders 200 x Mbombe 4.
To be manufactured under licence in India as the Kalyani M4.

https://defenceview.in/indian-army-order-200-kalyani-m4-armoured-vehicle/

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:27pm On Feb 28, 2021

Paramount Matador in Azerbaijan. The vehicle hit a landmine and everyone escaped unscathed.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:37pm On Feb 27, 2021

Raaven:
with this new batch . algerian air force will have 73 sukhoi 30 MKA in service

If one applies the usual principle which any decent Air Force applies - out of every 3 aircraft: 1 operational, 1 for training/reserve, 1 in maintenance - that means 24/48 Su30 MKA available to fly.
More than our entire fleet of Gripen!

Fangirls who only look at quantity point to Egypt; they completely disregard the logistic genius of Algerian acquisitions.

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