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Most of us like the pointy stuff and things that go bang. It is a truth though that none of that matters if a military ignores some of the unsexy stuff in the pics...

Raaven:
this Damen 1400 is 72 m long , and 1400 tons

itn't south africcan OPV , warrior class only 58 m , 415 tons ?

The warrior class, which is being phased out, is woefully inadequate for our waters. They were built for the calmer waters of the Mediterranean and were acquired because only Israel was prepared to sell to Apartheid SA. The conversion from strike craft to OPV was always a temporary measure.

Look at the 3 new IPVs for example. 62,2 meters.

Raaven:
tunisian OPV 1400 Damen

I am jealous of Navies in calmer seas; they can buy all these smaller vessels.
Because of our rough seas here in South Africa, we can't classify anything less than 80m as an OPV.

Raaven:
sudan and egypt have each year flood from nile river , dont think the destruction of the renaissance dam will make a difference ,maybe massive flood near the dam ok , studies says (and there is a lot of studies about renaissance dam failure , specially from egyptian universities ) there will be massiv flood until Sennar Dam in sudan , but for region far it will be normal flood and they will have time to be prepared like their annual flood , more than 20 days to sense it in north egypt . so i dont think it will be a big problem for egyptians if they have the will to destroyed it

an exemple of study about the subject: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326381376_Prediction_of_Flood_Hydrograph_due_to_Grand_Ethiopian_Renaissance_Dam_Break3

"The mode of the Main Dam break was considered as overtopping failure..."

All 15 scenarios cited in that paper stem from the above quote. That's quite a different thing from blowing up a dam. RUSI, the Royal United Services Institute in the UK, recently held a joint webinar with the Brookings Institute where the consensus amongst the experts was that the military option is gone, at the dam's current levels. A colleague subscribes so I'll see if he can share the link.

Egypt must realise the old days when it could bully the other Nile states are gone. And with Trump gone, they have no option but to negotiate in good faith.

As for flooding downstream, look at this year's flooding in Khartoum and Omdurman, where excessive rainfall caused a rise of more than 17 metres in the Blue Nile.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7vN5RaAITw

kabe1:
I didn't know the dam is almost full. That's about that then, there would be no military confrontations between the two.

Egypt can still cause mischief though. Some Ethiopians suspect an external actor in all the troubles they're experiencing with various regions, not just Tigray.

kabe1:
How do they plan to fight Egypt since they are already fighting amongst themselves?

With the dam almost full, military option is gone. Unless the Egyptians want to flood the Sudanese capital and southern Egypt.

Interesting.
Calls made so far by US President-elect Biden to world leaders:

1) Nov 09 - Canada, Mexico
2) Nov 10 - France, Germany, Ireland, United Kingdom
3) Nov 11 - Australia, Japan, South Korea
4) Nov 12 - The Vatican
5) Nov 13 - Italy
6) Nov 17 - Chile, India, Israel, South Africa

Interesting.
Calls made so far by US President-elect Biden to world leaders:

1) Nov 09 - Canada, Mexico
2) Nov 10 - France, Germany, Ireland, United Kingdom
3) Nov 11 - Australia, Japan, South Korea
4) Nov 12 - The Vatican
5) Nov 13 - Italy
6) Nov 17 - Chile, India, Israel, South Africa

Odunayaw:
You writing style is much like Frumentius of yesteryears

I'll take that as a compliment. The guy could turn a phrase.

Sarikidoo:
UN ordered Ghanaian troops to leave?? As in how?? Please be sure of what you post... After Belgium withdrawn their peacekeeping force, UN advised Major Gen Anyidoho that in case of escalation of hostilities, He should be prepared to withdraw the UNAMIR (United Nations Assistance Mission for Rwanda) which he commands. They were not Ghanaian troops. They were made up of soldiers from Ghana, South Africa and Kenya, It was just commanded by a Ghanaian officer. They were never told to withdraw.

BTW, It was a UN mission and they can withdraw it at any time, or who do you think will pay them their allowances and bonus?

There were NO South African soldiers in Rwanda in 1994.

kabe1:
Dominos sells ice-cream, but we all know and recognise it as a Pizza shop.

Mate, we already know you're allergic to facts, and evidence that contradicts your baseless assertions.

jln115:
@kabe1 I guess SA also didn't deliver this C3 system

Just joking mate ... In all seriousness Nigeria really got a great piece of kit!

Shhh...despite evidence to the contrary - in the form of billions worth of exports - we only make armoured vehicles!

From the photos, seems to be the South African-developed Chaka system.

bidex111:
#PressRelease #DHQUpdate

MULTINATIONAL JOINT TASK FORCE RECEIVES ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM EUROPEAN UNION

1. In fulfilment of its pledge to provide additional support to enhance the operational efficiency of the Multinational Joint Task Force (MNJTF), the European Union (EU) has provided Command, Control, Communication and Information Systems (C3IS) equipment to the Force. In line with the agreement for implementation of this support, a training has been jointly organised by the service providers and Force Headquarters for personnel who would operate the C3IS equipment across the MNJTF Sectors. While declaring the training opened, the Force Commander, Major General Ibrahim Manu Yusuf commended the EU for the provision of the C3IS equipment, describing it as ‘most critical’ to enhancing the operational performance of the troops in the field.

2. The Force Commander expressed appreciation for the additional support, which is closely related to the recent provision of Helicopters and Petroleum Oil and Lubricants (POL) through the framework of African Union to MNJTF. The C3IS project will enable conveyance of classified messages and communication through the secured net, he added. Continuing, General Yusuf equally commended the service providers for the display of resilience and vigour in the execution of the project.

3. The Force Commander assured the EU that all the support provided will be optimally utilised in accordance with the global best practices to enhance the operational efficiency of the troops. He therefore urged the Sector Commanders, in whose custody the equipment will be, to ensure proper utilisation, maintenance and safety of the equipment.

4. To the trainees, General Yusuf implored them to pay attention and apply themselves fully to the training procedures and processes. “As the pioneer trainees, you are expected to learn and strictly understand how to operate the equipment, as you will be the one to install it at sector level”, he said. On its part, HQ MNJTF has taken steps to provide alternative power supply at the Sector HQs in order to ensure uninterrupted power supply for the communication equipment.

5. When completed, the C3IS system is expected to enable rapid deployment of strategic and operational communication capabilities within the MNJTF Area of Operation.

Signed
Colonel Muhammad Dole
Chief of Military Public Information
MNJTF
N'Djamena - Chad

Everything Rooikat.

dragon2:
Donated C3lS? By EU?
Dump it after use, Greek gift.

From the photos, seems to be the South African-developed Chaka system?

Some people here seem to think that Denel is the only arms manufacturer in South Africa, or that we make and sell only armoured vehicles.
So that we discuss from an informed basis, I'm posting info on non-vehicle arms exports from RSA, starting with 2016.

The reports can be downloaded from sipri, under databases and then national reports.

From those folks who "don't deliver".

Rheinmetall Denel Munition part of Dutch ammunition contract

Rheinmetall Denel Munition (RDM) is a part of a massive ammunition framework agreement between Rheinmetall and the Dutch armed forces, which could be worth up to €500 million.

Germany’s Rheinmetall in late September announced that it had renewed and expanded the longstanding framework agreement with the Dutch procurement agency Defence Materiel Organization (DMO) for the supply of various types of ammunition for a period of at least ten years.

The framework agreement envisages annual call-offs of around €50 million, meaning that total volume could come to €500 million. The customer is already preparing for the first call-offs, Rheinmetall said.

The framework agreement encompasses the supply of 35 mm medium-calibre ammunition for infantry fighting vehicles, 40 mm ROSY smoke/obscurant cartridges, and a family of state-of-the-art 155 mm artillery ammunition.

Rheinmetall Denel Munition has already assumed full responsibility for the complete 155 mm portfolio, which extends from the Assegai ammunition family to modular charges and fuses. Rheinmetall Denel Munition will supply M1711 and M1712 insensitive high explosive (IHE) 155 mm Assegai rounds as well as Illuminating and Infra-Red Illuminating projectiles, and M2000 Practice rounds.

The 155 mm M1711 is a base bleed variant of the M0121A2 Assegai round while the M1712 is the boat tail assembly version. Maximum range is between 24.7 and 40 km depending on barrel length and type of round.

The Assegai range comprises insensitive ammunition and conventional high explosive rounds as well as smoke/obscurant, illumination, infrared/illumination and other projectiles. In ballistic terms, all members of the Assegai family are identical. This assures that they are all able to attain their full range of around 40 km.

Standard Assegai rounds feature a conventional boat tail assembly. To boost their range, the customer can replace this assembly with a base bleed (BB) module, even under field conditions. With a barrel length of 39 calibres, an Assegai BB projectile attains a range of over 30 kilometres. Fired from a 52-calibre barrel, the range can exceed 40 kilometres. The Assegai ammunition family complies fully with the NATO Joint Ballistics Memorandum of Understanding (JBMOU) and is qualified in accordance with STANAG norms.

RDM said its 155 mm range is fully NATO qualified for the 52 calibre Pzh2000 self-propelled howitzer.

shadowprimezero:
NAF CH-4 Drones

Well done Nigeria! I do wonder though, seeing as Iraq and Jordan got rid of theirs, was any thought given to the more capable CH-5?

jln115:
72nd use South African Reva MRAPs.... As well

And what's this I see on RSA's schedule of arms exports? I highly doubt those were for civilian use.

jln115:
Point being?

Could have sworn the Nigerian Navy SBS uses Paramount boats!
And the NAF Regiment and SF use Paramount Marauder APCs!

kabe1:
The issues we had with South-Africa was primarily as a result of America frustrating Nigeria's efforts to buy arms from other countries.

More details please.

jln115:
The RG35 6X6 like the Mbombe 6x6 can be set up as an IFV or APC....

I can't stand the Mbombe 6x6. I don't like the either or, with the RG35 6x6. As an APC it seems a waste. All that glorious vehicle, simply to use as a battle taxi with grandpa's 12.7mm on it!
AFV/IFV with some growl I could roll with.

jln115:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder i guess

I quite like the RG35. The 4x4 though. I can't quite see the 6x6 as an APC. If they just settled on it as a pure weapons carrier, I could salivate over that.

Toju200:
hmm seems these guys wants to steal the beauty show from Ara MRAP 2
Impressive...

For me the beauty stakes belong to the Paramount Mbombe 4.

kabe1:
Let's agree to disagree.

Facts are immutable.
FACT 1: CAATSA did NOT prevent Algeria, Angola, Central African Republic, Cote d'Ivoire, Egypt, Ethiopia, Equatorial Guinea, Mali, Mozambique, Nigeria and Sudan receiving military equipment from Russia after the law was passed in the US.

FACT 2: None of these countries applied for waivers.

FACT 3: With the exception of Egypt's SU-35 purchase (because it threatened the national security of the US ally, Israel), the US did not utter a word about these transactions.


Now, with which of the above facts do you disagree?

kabe1:
Indonesia is a US ally in the Indo-pacific region.

You have not told us why the SU-35 fighter deal was blocked.

Come now this is getting tedious. Australia v Indonesia, whom will US prioritise?

And I see you've still not bothered to explain this:

These are the African countries who've received Russian military equipment since CAATSA was signed into law:
Algeria
Angola
Central African Republic
Cote d'Ivoire
Egypt
Ethiopia
Equatorial Guinea
Mali
Mozambique
Nigeria
Sudan.

kabe1:
Whose National Security is Indonesia threatening with the proposed purchase of SU-35s from Russia?

A certain US ally called Australia, with whom Indonesia has been at odds for a long time now.

Tobiloba2407:
I think, the Nigerian government is waiting for the USA government to fulfill it's pending orders, to avoid stories that touch, them get the mi35m delivered.

Unlikely, considering how long it will take before the last Tucano is delivered. Also, the 3 RD-93 engines for the JF-17 were delivered early 2018, after CAATSA and with no waiver being necessary.

What some are over-looking is that outside of Europe, CAATSA specifically says Russian exports will be blocked if they threaten US or allies national security. That's why the list of countries have been able to buy, without applying for waivers.

Look, I don't know the reason for the delay, but facts available right now make a nonsense of the sanctions excuse.

kabe1:
Lol, what evidence are you talking about?

Can you enlighten me, so we are on the same page.

Let me try this in simple terms:

Kabe: we haven't received 6 choppers because of sanctions against Russia

Me: But Nigeria and other countries have received Russian equipment since sanctions, so there must be another reason

Kabe: But the ambassador said it's sanctions

Me: Do the sanctions not apply to the other materiel received by Nigeria and others?

kabe1:
If you have evidence, please post it.

It makes no sense that when you are asked for proof to support your claims, you resort to sarcasm.

I see you're pretending that list of countries who received Russian equipment since the sanctions, doesn't exist.
The evidence stares you in the face, but "the ambassador said..."