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Neddivine: Macdaddy01:You dont realise that I enjoy it the more you guyz comment without addressing the op. Some christian out there is losing faith by seeing your shenanigans. Frankly. keep up the Anonyism


No christian is loosing faith anywhere cos we're watching from the back seat and can see clearly the hypocrisy u portray.I'm certaian u've read the link from DeepSight but you know clearly his arguements beat u completely.Didn't u click n read/watch all u learned about Dawkins or he copied and pasted them on ur doorstep.Face it they beat u without even trying & as for me I go back to the back seat & keep watching with the rest irrespecting of what ur next rantings will be.

Yawn. You people keep making claims. Feel free to explain how Deepsight's argument beat the op. Very simple taks in which £1,000 says you will fail.

Omo Alata: The children's prayers are being answered. Your corrupt leaders are stealing the aids being sent. What more do you want?

Answered with death by starvation? Why not stop the leader?~S

[quote author=Donalð Genes]Without sounding uncluttered...I want to say something simple and its laces in the form of simple direct question
1.Where do you think the Oxygen that you breathing likewise everybody comes from? From who?
2.Why do you satan is running around doing nothing but to decieve people.He Knows his time is short and reason God is letting him run around to and fro the earth is simple.his destruction is up.
3.Our God is everything you see around you including satan,all the angels are His,satan was stupid to think he wants to be like God,lemme ask you,can you be like your father,albeit,as he revolt and disoby God,God in His wiseness thought it wise to destroy him in His appointed time and that's why he is roamning the street,it doesn't take God one second to make him useless,Remember God is ever merciful,He gives us a chance to come back to Him and Worship Him and Him alone,
4.Apparently when you said it proudly you don't believe in God,then who then will you believe,Where do you eyes,the mouth,the legs and everything inherent in you,Do you think its just by chance,the food,the vegetables,the herbs in the field,the water you drink,you wake up everyday hearing people died and you still alive,Do you think you are better than those who died,have you come to think if people died where do they go? The truth is simple,God loves you and That's the reason You still alive not minding what you called Him,He is still your God,Surrender your life to christ,It is not hard,its like ABC in nursery school,God doesn't need anything from you,Its just your heart He needs,that's all,[/quote]https://robinbrown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/sisko-facepalm1-300x242.jpg

striktlymi:

You no dey watch match??

Watching and typing.


Multitasking

Deep Sight: Lol. Your question has been addressed: and exhaustively so. If you can't click a link and address the arguments, that your bad son.

This thread will be a great reference point for new future nairalanders. I will be happy to refer them here to see how discussions are held, RER style.

Sad, I actually had the time for a discussion.

lol....keep decieving yourself.


Not one of you made an argument here. At least Jesoul tried.




#empty barrels exposed

striktlymi: Good evening guys,

Have you heard of the phrase: "Divide and conquer"??

From the look of things, LB's strategy is working!


Think about it!

Sharaap

chukwudi44: The fact that you were catholic did not mean most atheists were catholic.Even seun the owner of this site converted from pentecostalism

I never said that most atheists are catholics

Deep Sight: It costs me cutting, quoting, pasting, which is all very tiresome. Now what does it cost you to click on a link?

Just one finger stroke, and you're there.

You would be quite silly to expect me to start writing the same epistle all over again each time someone asks me the same question? So its your expectation that when next someone asks me this, I should write all over again? And so on ad infinitum? Get serious. The logical first step is to show that person what I have written previously. Then you comment on those and why they are bad arguments. And then we take it from there.

If you cannot do that, if you are too lazy to click a simple link, too bad.



Lol. You do indeed.

Yawn. the barrel is empty.

Simple rules one can not follow;

MacDaddy01:
So, in your own words, please back up your statements that Dawkins is a philosophical dunce

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Lol indeed he most certainly does

It is amazing how irrational one man can be.[/quote]You dont realise that I enjoy it the more you guyz comment without addressing the op. Some christian out there is losing faith by seeing your shenanigans. Frankly. keep up the Anonyism

chukwudi44: @scared

This your tales by moonlight how did you come about it?

Which church went underground? You really make me laugh.Not even during the roman persecution was the church cowed!! Underground indeed for more than 1000 yrs

Dont mind the guy, he is in denial

Deep Sight: And let me remind you that I gave you a LINK to a thread where I discussed the matter. You have not responded to any of the points there. . .

You have no idea how pitiable this makes you appear. Refusing to respond and screaming "no evidence!" "commot for road" "debunked!" and the like. It comes across as quite extremely deranged.

For the umpteenth time I ask you to read the LINK and ALL the arguments I wrote there IN MY OWN WORDS.

Rebutt them.

Then we can discuss your rebuttals and even more. I have finished my pasta now. If you will RESPOND to the points made, I have some time to spare.

But if, as usual, you refuse to read and rebutt, and simply say something like "No evidence," or "debunked" or "commot for road" - - - then, really what on Earth do you expect me or anyone else to do?

lolololol....butthurt.

Feel free to make the fresh arguments here. Simple. No excuses. It costs you nothing.

I always present my arguments when asked. I expect the same courtesy. If not, commot for road, empty barrel

chukwudi44: Are you sure you know anything about the compilation of the bible? Where did u read that the deuteronocanonical books were excluded?

73 books were canonised @ the synod of hippo held in 393 CE and council of carthage in 397CE both councils were presided by St Augustine of Hippo one of the greatest theologians that has ever lived.

@ logicboy

How did u arrive @ this this your conclusion?

I am willing to hear contrary opinions. However, I was a catholic before. When I left the church, I didnt even think of looking at another church. If the catholic church is false, how would its children churches be better?

I am so loving this thread!

Not one piece of evidence so far. Oneof my best treads exposing the empty barrels



Bookmarked!



Or maybe Enigma can save the day!

Lol.....All of you can pat yourselves on the back but you are all lving in the denial. Not one of you have provided a case here that Dawkins is a philosophical dunce. All you guys have done is pass ad hominems on logicboy and claim that dawkins is a dunce.


Let me remind you guyz of the op

MacDaddy01: This is a challenge to Deepsight, Anony and Enigma to shame the devil and back up their statements. I am an athiest and I know (not believe) Dawkins not to be so. Not only has he made very clear arguments about God and religion but his arguments are sound.

It is of the highest arrogance of theists like these people to claim that Dawkins is a dunce. You might disagree with him but to call a man who has proven himself with his degrees and formal arguments a philosphical dunce is really immoral.

Arguments on Dawkins side
-Every sicentific research paper or thesis begins with philosophy- a hypothesis and then, the evidence supporting or rebutting the hypothesis
-Every scientific research paper or thesis engages in some form of philosophical approach; positivism or empiricism etc
-Dawkins has engaged in formal debates unlike Deepsight, Anony and Enigma
-Dawkins basic arguments have yet to be shown to be dunce-like by Anony, Deepsight and Enigma.



[size=14pt]So, in your own words, please back up your statements that Dawkins is a philosophical dunce[/size]

vedaxcool: Finally is LOGIC is trampling upon Islamophobia!

Islamophobia? Me of all people? How did you arrive there from my comments

I would like to know how many islamophobic people read the quran, have muslim girlfriends and enjoy the food of eid/sallh meat etc

[quote author=Mr_Anony]You really should have watched the video[/quote]https://robinbrown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/sisko-facepalm1-300x242.jpg


1) I posted the video
2) I clearly mentioned that I have watched the video
3) I have watched the video more than once.


But dont let facts get in your way. Notice how you didnt make any point about the video. What about the video?

[quote author=Mr_Anony]When logicboy asked for proof that dawkins was a philosophy dunce, The first thing that came to my mind was: "how does one go about proving to a philosophy dunce that someone else is a philosophy dunce.
In order to recognize irrationality, one must first know what good rational thought looks like.

If logicboy cannot see the foolishness in Dawkins demanding proof of proof, then I'm afraid it is no use.[/quote]Another theist using style to avoid providing evidence that Dawkins is a philosophical dunce.

NEXT

vedaxcool: SEARCH not watch SEARCH not watch, feel free to dance around this very simple point! Did the google website specifically says muslims do such SEARCH? If your answer is yes then you are a LIAR if your answer is NO then please shut up! We thought atheist only believe in stuff that has CONCRETE evidence? well we know an average Nigerian relishes in hypocrisy! And what context was the search done? The website did not say for all we know an abdulsleek could have been told: oh do you know atheist in sweden have predilection for sex with animals? abdulsleek say really? He searches it and. Oh boy na wa oh it is true and that is that! Since it is a matter of searching the whole argument is worthless, but in the mind of an islamophobe search = watch hence working themselves into a frenzy, but finally logic, common sense shows clearly SEARCH is not watch, what did they SEARCH it for, WE DON'T KNOW, so why all the tears and hating? I have shown clearly using the wikipedia link posted earlier that po.rn is produce and consumed in large quantities by the WEST! Muslims countries remain amongst the few places that have continued to reject the legality of po.rn!

lols and lmaos sEems aproprite here

Denial is a very sad thing.

Deep Sight: Not a single response to a single point made there. I guess its beyond your capacity. I dont know why I am amazed. SMH.

Well have a nice evening. I hope Anony and Enigma will be kind indulgent enough to take up your "challenge".

As for me, I have nothing to say until and unless you read and respond to the points already made in the link I provided.

Make I go chop pasta joor. Later.

Pasta la vista

Deep Sight: Lol. Funny chap. Cannot even respond to a single word of many points put forward in the link I gave him. Not a single response to a single point in all the arguments there. His only answer is "Commot for road". I really doubt you will get Anony or Enigma to dignify your queries. Enigma certainly won't. Because of course, this is the worst case of intellectual vacancy and laziness, where you cannot read or rebutt a single word of that which has been given to you, but simply shout "commot for road" as your argument. Did you grow up in a motor park or something?

Paradoxically, you then act surprised when no one takes you seriously.

Enjoy.

If at anytime you decide to get serious, just go over to that link, read the points made there, respond to them, and I will be happy to return and discuss. If you cannot do that, then have a nice evening.

Yes, yes, I agree. Just park your empty rhetoric to the side, let others talk about Dawkins

[quote author=inspiredbyGOD:.]*Catholics did not compile the bible.
* first and oldest denomination doesn't necessarily mean it holds all truth.
* The apocrypha was excluded in the compilation of the bible. And not all the apocryphal books can be found in the Catholic bible, they only added some of it so it is not as complete as you think.[/quote]Catholics didnt compile the bible? Who did?

Deep Sight: My own words are in the link I gave you.

Ol' boy, there is no "challenge" if you refuse to read.

Do you expect me to go and copy the words there and start pasting them here? How hard really is it for you to click a link and read my own words?

Lazy or frightened, which is it? Or just not up to the discussion?

As far as I am concerned, I will only proceed further on this thread when you respond to my own words - all of them - in the link I gave you.

End of.

Yawn....commot for road. Let's leave it to those who have evidence.

To Enigma and Anony;
https://www.nairaland.com/1194709/anony-enigma-deepsight-prove-dawkins

Yawn

Deep Sight: Well since you did not bother to read or respond to that which was provided to you (I gave the link; you did not respond to a single word written there); then how do you expect either Anony or Enigma to be encouraged to bother themselves writing what will not be read?

You see, it is very easy, but very unschorlarly, vacuouss, vacant and bereft of intellect, to give the same standard response to everything that you ask for: namely you just perfectly ignore what has been written and state: "You have no evidence. End of Response."

Who do you expect to ever take you seriously with such vacant responses. It is indeed you who should "commot for road" if you are not prepared to read and respond to that which is given in response to your own queries. Why should anybody write anything if you will not read it and respond directly to it?

Look at the bold in your post above. Now I wrote a lot in the link I gave you. What is the point writing more when you have not addressed yourself to that? Do you expect me to just start dancing because you say so? I don't mind dancing, but the DJ should kindly play the music. You are not playing the music, son.

lol......it is simple, put forward the evidence in your own words here. It costs you nothing to state the flawed arguments that Dawkins made on this thread. You people keep embarrassing yourselves. Let's see if Anony and Enigma live up to the challenge.

MacDaddy01: [size=14pt]So, in your own words, please back up your statements that Dawkins is a philosophical dunce[/size]

Deep Sight: You sir, are a veritable clown. It is obvious that you do not read. I gave you a link, and I so knew you would be too lazy to go there and read all the arguments both ways. If you are too lazy to read, why should I do the hardwork and bother to write?

Commot for road.

Let others who have evidence and proper logical arguments come and state why they believe that Dawkins is a philosophical dunce

honey001: I just pray all this people parading themselves as atheist return to God their Creator before it's too late. To all Christians here on this forum, do not stop praying for their conversion because nothing is too difficult for God.

Better ask your God why children in the millions are starving around the world, especially in africa despite your prayer.

Deep Sight: He is a theological and philosophical dunce because he evangelizes on theological, philosophical and cosmological matters which none of his arguments have anything to do with.

This is the central reason.

However I have already given some of my reasons previously.

https://www.nairaland.com/758572/improbability-god#9184534

The man is not worth any sensible person's time.

He also makes some of the most hair-raisingly stu.pid remarks and conclusions that any academic has ever made in history. I would be safe to say that he is probably the dimmest person on the planet to be academically honoured.

I take it that you have no evidence for your claims? One down, two to go. You are yet to name one of his poor philosophical arguments

NEXT

Waiting for Anony and Enigma

MacDaddy01: [size=14pt]So, in your own words, please back up your statements that Dawkins is a philosophical dunce[/size]

JeSoul: This is quite embarrasing - especially for one who brandishes 'logic' & 'science' all over the section (in the face of real world scientists like myself - if I may quietly add). Someday (hopefully sooner than later), you'll look back and realize what a hopelessly, utterly & irredeemably farcical statement that is . I can't blame you too much sha...this is clearly a Dawkinian trait and you're merely taking after daddy G.O. Dawkins.

Cheerios, logicboy .

Empty rhetoric.


NEXT!

[quote author=Mr_Anony]It is comments like this that reassure me of your irrationality. What is the point in showing you anything when all you'll do is cover your eyes and ears, stamp your feet and shout "lalalala".

You still haven't us these contributions to science that your master Dawkins has made.[/quote]You made a claim, back it up. Dawkins is a philosophical dunce? Show his poor philosophy then?

MacDaddy01: You christians are the ones that make other christians turn into atheists with your lies and Anonyism.

1)My post came before Enigma's post. He was replying to my comment that I said that Enigma hasnt contributed the way Dawkings has contributed to science. So when you try and claim I huld look at post 14, look at the original post 12 and see the strawman you and Enigma are trying to play. I notice how you guys added "major" when it was not in my original comment.

I clearly said that Dawkins has contributed to science in the way he has championed the teaching of evolution. By the way, every Phd or Masters thesis is a contribution to the field of the degree. Guess you smartazzes didnt know that.


2) Please define "philosophical dunce".
a) Every man is his own philosopher. I would like to know how hard philsophy is.
b) I want to know how many formal debates you have been in to criticize Dawkins philosphy
c) I also want to know why you people (Enigma and coP) have not yet put forward one philosophically wrong argument of Dawkins

JeSoul: Again, no it does not. It is only in your false/flawed understanding of what the bible actually says that there is any conflict.

When it says God made man from dust what comes to your mind? A big dude sits on the ground, crosses his legs and begins molding a human shaped body from the dust?

[rhetorical questions] [/b]Do you know what an allegory is? do you understand the use of imagery in texts? the use of literal & non-literal words/terms/descriptors in language? [b] [/rhetorical questions]

When human being die do they turn into 'dust' in the ground? what does 'dust' mean in this context? Again, there is no conflict between religion & science except that which is conjured up by evangelical practitioners of pseudo science armed with an anti-God agenda.

Jesoul? What is your point? Did God create man according to the bible, yes or no?

That is a scientific claim. The moment you accept that Yahweh created man, you have made a scientific claim. You have described a physical process in the origin of man.


As for the bold
Isaiah 64:8 ►
New International Version (©1984)
Yet, O LORD, you are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.


Taken literally, God is the moulder of clay

[quote author=alpha_scorpio]I'm an atheist and I'm totally against homosexuality.[/quote]

But with what justification