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Joshthefirst:
Jehova is the God of all things. There is no other before him. And yes, he is a personal God and Father to his children on earth. And he'll come as a Judge and Ruler over all the earth very soon.

The earth is filled with truth. The earth is filled with the knowledge of Jehova as the eaters cover the sea. His gospel had penetrated every region of ignorance. so don't act confused.

Stop contradicting yourself

You said Jehovah is the personification of Love. .u don't know what personification is?
That statement renders Jehova a myth, a myth constructed to make LOVE more Comprehensible
So from studying the myth we learn more about Love. ... you can't have a relationship with the myth. ..u study it and build a relationship with Love


But what you are saying now contradicts your earlier post. ... here Jehovah is a Personal God, not the emotional state called Love, Jehova is Father and Future ruler and judge of the earth
A personal God is one that is said to exist exactly how described no matter how anthropomorphic he seems. ..The bible describes Jehova as a God that has a Hand, has a head to wear a crown, has a butt to sit on a throne and lives in the sky... most importantly has a gender - Male and he gives out command verbally

lampardizik:
First off,there is no where in the bible,in both testaments where He was addressed otherwise

Think of it,if the writers of the bible were so clear on the subject,why should I bother?...why should I give myself a headache about it

Besides,the "hows" and "whys" are out of it for me

Ok I understand you but am interested in knowing how my supposed creator is a HE and not She or even gender less

Joshthefirst:
And Yes, I said. he is. He is also the ultimate warrior, the ultimate provider. the invincible ruler of the ages. the Origin of all things.

So you agree that Jehova is simply the Greek Aphrodite and Babylonian Ishtar? And all those things portraying Jehova as a Personal God should be discouraged

Joshthefirst:
I can't argue with you on this basis sorry. It's because I believe you're simply in denial. I will never argue God's existence with anyone. Never again if I have before.

Of course you can't argue with that cus it beats anything you can possibly throw as a rebuttal


If only you can show the imprints of Jehova in Nature. .. making us know that it's Jehova and not allah, Brahma, Olodumare that is responsible for our existence

Joshthefirst:
Yes. It's true. God is love.

Is Jehova the personification of Love? that's what I asked

Wulfruna:
LOL. There are actually lots of them. Especially in Sudan and even in S. Arabia. The Shuwa that I've seen their pictures however all looked very light-skinned...which is why Fulaman198's revelation surprised me a little.

In any case, Arab identity has become largely an issue of language and culture, and not really about race.

I know there's such a people as Shuwa Arabs but I never imagined they were fully settled in nigeria.

menabadoo:
ibadan stink of penury, ask any unbiased person.

Yet ur brothers rush to the city leaving their family and homeland

FOLYKAZE:
On a serious note. I dont agree with Fakunle regarding the interpretation of this Odu. I have a journal that detail the account but it is something like fussing Christianity into Orishism. I think he got it from Awo Popoola but how he interpreted it is wrong.

Sure you have years of experience in Ifa

FOLYKAZE:
Is the secretary of God who wrote the Bible?

God is love.

Love is God.

Last time a preacher came to me, she said God is love.

Well its his beliefs not urs

So Jehova is same as Ishtar of Babylon?
Same as Eros and Cupid

FOLYKAZE:
God is love

So Jehova is the personification of Love? Joshthefirst that true?

Why all this threats? Wetin concern election concern battlefield?

YungMillionaire:
In my opinion both sides made good arguments but at this point you can only see one side since Emilok's posts have been deleted.

The whole debate went awry when bigfrancis insisted the tilted should be changed and Emilok (in characteristic manner) told him to create his own topic. I believe Dr. Adevoh is both Yoruba-Ghanaian and Igbo-Ghanaian. This is a case where both sides were right. Emilok, the ever sharp guy, used his hilarious pics strategy to good comedic effect. I think francis lost the debate but both of them are my paddies so I really don't like to say that - but its the truth.

Thanks for the commentary

FOLYKAZE:
That a dew spew out continously and rapidly without order is not expansion.

Smh. Keep looking for arguement

FOLYKAZE:
Christian God said I am not human. Does that not tell you he cannot be person?

Are aliens not Persons?

Fact is Jehova isn't a personification of anything. .. the last christian preacher that came to me made that very clear

FOLYKAZE:
Me bored again?

Can you help him pls.

Name that God that existed as person and not personification

Lets start from that

I Would say there's no such God
But Christians and muslims say otherwise

FOLYKAZE:
Call her Juana not weed.

Common guy. The muslim guy must not go scot free. Where in Ifa corpus did you learnt that the Universe expand?

Tell us

LLike I said you are probably on weed and in desperate need for something fun to do

Wat is it about letting the Muslim guy go Scott free? Did he steal from me?

FOLYKAZE:
I know there is a particular sect among the Christians that have the same thought. After all they dont agree on the samething

What sect is that? And wats their doctrines rooted on?

lexiconkabir:
yes, what question did you ask in the first place where u quoted me? i read everything and didnt see anything expansion not to talk of astronomy there!

Then u should check your yoruba

FOLYKAZE:
Translation sire.

The guy did not post his quran verse in Arabic.

As omo Yoruba though, there is nothing like expansion in what you posted.

Is he Arab or is Arabic his first language? Does he have to post anything in Arabic?

Then you dont understand yoruba very well


Here's translation
" The dew spews out rapidly, it does so continously without order, this was declared to Origun, when he was going to coordinate the deepening of the heavens and earth , a very long time ago"

Deepening "Ibu" can be a synonym for expansion "Ife"

Wulfruna:
This is interesting. I didn't know Shuwa Arabs were this dark-skinned. I've seen some pictures in the past of whole families from Borno who were light-skinned, with all the features Nigerians like to associate with being mixed race. I thought those families were Shuwa.

I once met this girl, very dark skinned with one pin on the nose
She said she was Arab and I was like: come again

Fulaman198 where are these people found in nigeria?

Ok am not interested in ur silly arguments... I skipped most of them
Bigotry is bad for my system


@Wulfruna
Did her mother's mother marry Nnamdi Azikiwe's son?

FOLYKAZE:
Me bored

I think you are becoming dumb just like him.

Is there no difference between God as a person and God of Abrahamic religion?

I will understand him if he had come openly that the God he is refering to his Abrahamic Gods. There wont be problem bashing which he created.

Every Gods existed as person. The OP said he is cutting across all Gods. And Mr nice guy is here fencing the OP who want to go gaga into God of Abraham. So tell me who is bored?

Like I said you are bored. ..reason why you looking for arguement where its not necessary

I believe the op is looking for Gods that are considered actual persons by their people not personification

FOLYKAZE:
The point is if the stories in the bible is real, what we call God and ordain of God could be some customary law back in the days.

I dont know if you get this

I agree but tell that to Christians and jews

FOLYKAZE:
Gender of personification?

What is the gender of Oduduwa?

Yes Personification can come with giving a gender. ..Is Mary Jane not a woman?

Depends on which Oduduwa you speak of

lampardizik:
As you see brother,I quoted the bible

That really don't matter though

Why would you think it doesn't matter what makes Jehova a HE?

FOLYKAZE:
Ogbeni you are not making any sense. Stop making yourself look foolish.

The muslim guy challenged you to provide the Ifa verse which expatiate the expansion of the universe. Pls bring out the evidence to buttress your claim

You've probably been smoking weed
Get yourself together

lexiconkabir:
ode! first of all, you didnt ask any question, to make you look even more stu.pid, you said ifa also said the earth is expanding which unfortunately you cant prove! as regards the bolded, give a quotable proof from any manuscript believed to be said by a god.

Did I have to ask questions?

Believed to be said by a God? anyway. ..

This is from Odu Ogunda-Okanran
"Iri tu wili wili, Iri tu wiliwili, Iri tu wili-wili, ko tu reke-reke, Dia fun Origun, Tinlo s’eda ibu Orun ati Aye ni’gba ijinji"

Anybody with little exposure to Ifa will know what this is all about

9jacrip:
And what is this? A citation?
So there's a research work titled that? Please share rhe arthour's name(s), year and place of publication.

E seun.

the guy is confused. One of those who solely rely on Google(which subsequently directs them to Linda Ikeji's blog)

lexiconkabir:
never mind, just dont ever quote me for some stupid reasons again!

Are you OK? Come and tie my fingers. ..
Btw that was not a stuupid reason


You would be a fool to think that verse u quoted is the best ancient civilizations had to say about astronomy...a bigger fool to take it as any sort evidence of Allah

lampardizik:
(Numbers 23:19 NIV)
God is not a man, that He
should lie, nor a son of man, that He should change His mind. Does He speak and then not act? Does He promise and not fulfill?

So what makes him , you know a HE?

FOLYKAZE:
What is this nitori Olorun?

Well finofaya needs proof. First of determine what gender God is so when we find something we know it has to be of that gender to apply

lexiconkabir:
oh really? prove it! or keep mute!

Prove wat