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FOLYKAZE:
experience of 20 years in the church is enough to have a handful understanding of Christianity.

On another note, what you said on Finofaya thread indicate that there is human nature of christian God. You were looking out for personhood of Christian God. This impies that you are in possession of some knowledge about christian God been a person.

So what prompted the question? Did any christian leader ever told you their God is person or has a personhood?

Ask a christian this. Why do you keep saying human tho

benedictnsi:
Must you blame Buhari for Everything

Nawah oooo

SHUT up. Buhari has proven to be an ethnic bigot, and he never calls his kinsmen to order however any attempt to pay them back is always met with opposition from buhari - now that he's president just sit and watch how these herdsmen go unpunished with the president backing them up

Very dumb topic. Expats or immigrants, both words refer to people in the same situation
So whites don't like the word "immigrants" and you call them "Expatriates" if you don't like that simply start calling them "immigrants" like they call you and case closed
No need bringing racism into this

So because Whites like the word "expatriate" for themselves. .it is now a superior word that black man must obtain. ..nonsense

FOLYKAZE:
Should we conclude christians do not agree that their God is human or person?

Human Smh

Pls go to a church and find out.

You should read your bible more to see the nonsense the bible god mandates. ..yet some deluded folks call that monster; Merciful, Gracious
Joke of life

FOLYKAZE:
That you are a christian for decades is not an answer here.

The question again is that at what point in time did christian agree that Christian God is human or person?

Go to a church and maybe your question will be answered

daxlasaint:
This Yoruba man is just being his usual Yoruba prejudiced self... forgive him my brother, it's inbred in his genes...

Oh please shut up

benjsniper33:
Igbo corpses and shit everywhere- Owere, Abia, Anambra, onitsha, ebonyi, Indonesian cemetry, Malaysian cemetery, Chinese cemetery ...............nna infactu every cemetery!!!!!

Why this nonsense? Must you involve igbos in every thread? Why do you keep up with this. You think you insult the Igbos but you insult the yoruba with this silliness

FOLYKAZE:
At which point did Christian agree that their God is human and person?

Secondly why are you with some atheists beaming light on something or position ehich Christians never agree to?

Finofaya said he was looking for tge personhood of God. You said he meant Abrahamic God. So tell me bro, what person or human are you looking foe in Christian God when the so called Christians did not at anyt point agree that tgeir God is human?

Lemme remind you that I was a Christian for almost 20 years
So I don't know what you are talking about

@ Folykaze I hope you know that no christian understands God (oh before you misunderstand this word...I mean the Christian God)
Infact to push to understand God is considered heresy...not to mention that there are so many denominations with different basic understanding of their God
To a typical christian. ..nobody knows God other than stuff like - God is a HE, God sits on a throne, God has a voice and speaks words and a few others
A christian takes his bible description of God very seriously. .and to him, it's a fact he is ready to die for

FOLYKAZE:
It was how you said Orunmila the Yoruba God of wisdom is different from Ope (palm tree). You keep slumping in falacy. Why? I know very little about the greek Gods. I would have hit you hard.

There is no difference between a God and representation of it. The snake that is worshipped or handled as sacred in India is the same one I kill for food back in the days.

My point is, atheism is the disblieve in the existence of God. Nothing more nothing less. The key point here is that God is not defined or have any specific attribute. So we can all assume everything that is God, they disbelieve in it existence. On the other round, atheism is the direct opposite of theism. In theism, almost everything is God. The tree, snake, bull, earth, sun, moon and even individual are Gods. In essense atheism is denying their existence because it is against everything that is called God.

An atheist trying to give me a new definition of God is a silly hypocrite trying hard to make sense from their falacy.

Well for now I have nothing much to do. ..lemme play with you small. .

If you don't know anything about Greeks then learn. ..cus when you start using words like "atheist" "theist" that all come from Greek you need to know how they used the words

I've told you "Theos" is of the same root word as "Theory"
Theorie/Theoria - the word that has become "Theory"..originally meaning "Contemplation" "A looking at(with the mental faculty)"
Thea - A view, Idea, Notion. Masculine form of this word is "Theo" from the verb "δε" - "The(de)" meaning "to see"
Theos - the word for "Deity" or "God"
So my friend I can as well use the word "Theo" meaning Idea, it is afterall the root of the words "Theoria" and "Theos"

Idea is an image or representation of something. and in the past, more often than in modern times, ideas took shape into anthropomorphic entities with description like hands, head, wearing clothes, having sex, procreation, showing emotions etc and above all fine art. .. all this to help explain it better and easier

An atheist can reject an Idea doesn't mean he denies the existence of what the Idea is about

lilzeel:
This guys are not magicians, common Nigerians give them more time and let's see if they can govern or not, if they can glory be to God if they can't pray for them. Your prayers count for the country to moves forward. #Stopcriticism

Did you pray for Jonathan?

McSterling:
So, when a piece of obsidian is worshipped as god by some, then I, a geologist who also claims to be atheist must disbelieve in the existence of obsidian to in fact be an atheist My atheism is now contingent on what some decide to worship as god. Does that even make any sense?

No sir, atheism isn't disbelief in anything called god. Obviously, there is an exception when the thing called god is provable. Provable things aren't what the atheist refers to as god.

Obviously Folykaze knows this already, he's using all of you to catch fun.
Am yet to see how someone denies the existence of "Gaia" should drive Folykaze to forcing down disbelief in the existence of "Gē" (anglicized to "Geo" along with it
The very Greeks knew the difference between "Gaia" their Goddess and the Earth they saw and felt under their feet in Matter as opposed to a spirit they couldn't feel as matter but created stories about

Nd oh! There are many who realize what Gaia stories means to the existence of the earth but discard them as stuff that never happened even as atheist and non greek Pagans grow to accept or at least respect the greek Gaia and make some new concepts about the earth...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis

FOLYKAZE:
Can you name one impersonal God? Pls here I am not refering to impersonal force but impersonal God. This will buttress the point that for anything to be god, it is already personal. God been personal or taking the form of person does not mean it is person. Personal God is figurative expression of a Force or entity. All God are personal but some forces been worship as sacred are not personal.

And now you are sounding like atheist advocate, are you in essense telling us atheism is disbleiving in personal God only and not God in the general sense? Do atheists believe in your so called "impersonal God"?

Oh you want to school me while you are the one that needs to start visiting lecture classes where you can learn more about atheism.

Atheism from the greek words a + theos meaning No God. (please this is different from Godlessness). Atheism is the opposite of theism.



If my God is Consciousness, it is theism.

If my God is Mountain, it is theism

If my God is Nature, it is theism.

If my God is idea, it is theism

However, atheism which is opposite of theism is the denial, rejection and disbelieve in all these God existence.


Lying out here that atheism out here that atheism is disbelieve in personal God only wont bring you into some good book. You know? Lol

Smh. Digest this from Mcsterling

"When atheists here attempt to define their concept of god, it is this same you who begins to ask asinine questions, cavil and argue about how they aren't truly atheists because they believe in natural entities you've termed god. Perhaps, to you, atheism means disbelief in every thing other people have chosen to call god, even when these things can be empirically observed and proven to exist. According to you everything can be defined as god: planetary bodies, stones, grapes, fishes, water, yourself etc. and every atheist must disbelieve in all of these together with other concepts of god in order to be in fact atheists, no?"

...cus to be honest am tired of you

Abeg when your video on oogun dey hit YouTube?that's a discussion am interested in

Wulfruna:
Yoruba language : Togo, Benin Republic, Nigeria

Fulfude (Fulani language) : Senegal, Gambia, Mauritania, Guinea, Sierra Leone, Mali, Benin Republic, Togo, Burkina Faso, Niger, Nigeria, Cameroon, Chad, Sudan, Central African Republic.

and you Google searched

FOLYKAZE:
You defined God you refered to on that said thread as Jehovah. You came out openly and drew the line. Finofaya did not define anything. Stop defending the boy.

You are pagan. Your believe in God and denial of others is very clear and understandable. Finofaya is an atheist who disbelieve in all Gods. Maybe until when we define atheism as disblieve in Jehovah and Allah or some particular Gods, then we can justify the word atheism.

Are atheists expected to look for Jehovah prove only? Nope because atheism is about all Gods and not Jehovah only. So the question comes in again. Why is he looking for evidence of Jehovah? Why not evidence of all God including Orishas?


Secondly, I already know God mean different thing to people so I shouldnt waste time. Are you in your right sense? How will I be able to identify the God a speaker is refering to if He/She cannot differentiate it from the million of Gods out there?

Any atheist can come and start talking about You as a God or God as a concept, or God as the universe, or God as energy, or Gods as aliens but above all -atheists are known to be concerned with personal Gods - the type that sit on thrones somewhere in the sky and command humans, the same ones who make natural laws only to break the laws to perform "miracles"
So stop wasting people's time when you already know what they are after by their posts. Wat you should do is say you don't understand atheism and go study the notion. More so stop mentioning me into these type of discussion until you loose the confusion or could be abnormal desire for an argument. ..which ever one

FOLYKAZE:
Aimlessly because he does not fall into your line of thought huh?

Common bro, if you tell me that you disbelieve in the existence of Jehovah and Allah, I wont have problem with you. Though I understand most people that call themselves atheist on this forum are anti-theist. To simple put, they disbelieve in the existence of Jehovah and Allah. I dont have problem with this.

But if you tell us you disbelieve in God while you know the word God mean lot of things to different people, why dont you tell us which God you are referring to? If you tell us this, then I believe you can move on evaluting your proposition.

Christian will agrue they are theist but will draw a definate line to prove they are chirstians and not muslim. While cant atheist draw a line to pinpoint the God they disbelieve in?

There are Gods that exist out there. Telling me you dont believe in the existence of this Gods is simply insanity. You see I have problem even with a brother -macof because he refuse to define what he mean by God sometimes.

So sir, take your time to define what you mean by God. Or maybe we redefine atheism to something that have to do with Jehovah and Allah without any interference with existing God.

I am God in my spiritualism. I does exist. Disbeliving in my existence is simple MADNESS. Getrit?

Finofaya and I have defined the God. It's you who just want to keep arguing...its your way of passing out boredom

You already know "God" has different meaning to different people so When you see the comment you don't need to ask silly questions or waste people's time

9jacrip:
You called us out with this one bruh

It is rather a controversy between Giesi and others.

Obalufe himself is not poor so I doubt he will make that statement.

Poor people are everywhere and Ife folks the part of the population classed poor are very self-sufficient in that most of them own massive farm lands upon which they get their food items from and also sell for funds. Except of course you mean poor in that they cannot afford extravagant life style of cars, high end phones, mansions which I do not see kings of any towns providing.

And talking about poor, you'd be surprised to see the list of many wealthy Ife folks. You may start with visiting Parakin one of these days to see structures owned by indigenes.

That's exactly what am saying Ife people are not poor so what's this "feeding people at the palace" that Obalufe was talking about. ..giving the impression that the next Ooni must be rich...putting financial prowess as the ultimate criteria
http://www.punchng.com/feature/hotseat/the-next-ooni-must-be-able-to-maintain-ife-financially-obalufe/

jimi4us:
Elders of the North have said they would not allow the south west to humiliate Bukola Saraki for no reasons.

The elders, under the auspices of the Northern Elders Forum, said although they regard Senate President Bukola Saraki’s election as constitutional even though it was against the interest of the ruling party, they would not allow Tinubus selfish interest to take over the senate presidency happen.

Also, a Second Republic lawmaker and Convener of the Coalition of Northern Politicians, Academics, Professionals and Businessmen, Dr. Junaid Mohammed, stated that such intervention would be act of war between the West and the North.

Foolish northern elders. These are the fools that open their mouth to incite violence, steal from the whole Country, and yet keep their people in illiteracy, poverty and all sorts of health problems

Let them start war. They won't concentrate on the problems plaguing their people it's war they open up to. Stuupid violent criminals

Jeromejnr:
Was Jesus a father christmas?

Did jesus have any gifts that he didn't give out? The man was a poor fella
Your pastors however fly jets and own universities yet their gullible congregation keeps making them richer with absolutely no return

Ciscogod:
On behalf of omo oduduwa's we recognise ur kind gesture but we are not interested, we are ok with what we have. I think abobaku may be interested . U may contact him.

Even the abobaku is a Yoruba

Jeromejnr:
I tire for some people o.

And again, with many lazy Christians in church who refuse to work or surrender their life to the Lord in order for God's blessings to come. People just expect the Pastor to become Father Christmas overnight to them.

Isn't a good pastor supposed to be a father Christmas

olanje:
I hope he's not a Christian b'cos Muslim should be the next Ooni dis time around

Should the Ooni mess himself up by worshipping foreign gods? It's a big shame on the Yoruba nation to have its foremost monarch as a mental slave to arabs and Europeans
When the yoruba descendants in the Americas have defiled the white oppressors who tried forcing away their yoruba identity, a yoruba so called king falls so easily

MARQUIZ:
Shey, They wont consult Ifa ni?

Sadly, I don't think the chiefs of Ife will consult Ifa. . a case like this with the controversy and tension between Ogboru and Lafogido needs Ifa
But Obalufe has said he and the other chiefs are after the person that will feed them in the palace...as if Ife people are so poor. .. rather than the person that has sound knowledge of the Yoruba culture, traditons and history and is willing to celebrate the yoruba identity

blexxonmak:
BRIDE ASSEMBLY CHURCH @ Ijesha is another example of what the Church of Christ should be.

Yeah advertise your church

It's afterall just another business enterprise

@Lushore1. I really like the videos you've been posting lately

Smh. People like this just try to make me lose respect for the Edo folks

Why doesn't he marry their mothers? These kids don't need to grow up feeling like illegitimate children. ..its a taboo in africa.
Polygamy is allowed. ..2face can marry the other women. .afterall he should have thought of the consequences before having sex with them
Cursing follow men who make mistakes like this

Tuface should do the responsible thing as an African Man. ..more so what's he tryin to show to those young lads that look up to him or his sons? To sleep around and dump the mothers of their children?