₦airaland Forum

advocates:
You will never know the level of chaos the country would have been plunged into if not for CHRISTIANITY. You need to be spiritual discern to appreciate that Christianity remains the preservative of what remain of this country. I also believe that the gains of every prayer prayed will restore the glory of the nation, this is how faith works. We don't look at the presence and its circumstances and conclude that out prayers are unanswered. Beside, what are you doing as a Christian to better the life of people around you? because at the end of the day, it will amount to an individual work and not what we do collectively as a church.

Oya name them? The things christianity has done for this world. .nt just Nigeria


@bold. Since you know this, why all that gobbledygook talk about faith?

Arbiola:
End Time Signs oh...Before u know,they'll stop us from from going to church... Iránu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not Clubhouses?
Why churches?

Shutting down churches for the benefit of their pocket,will never make this country a better place.

You are an iidiot. . civilised Societies don't feed their people repeated words with loud speakers and musical instruments playing aggressively

Lagos is looking forward to becoming a state mega city. ..so businesses like churches that won't let the neighborhood hear themselves talk need to be shut down

In my neighborhood alone, two mosques, 2 churches. ..the closest mosque(on my street) is so quiet but the one 2 streets away won't let me think. ..with the nonsense Arabic chants that has never benefitted them...the two churches? Omg! Where do I start from? The stupidity of the preachers that keep shouting on the mic or the congregation that can't pray without shouting?


All clubs I've seen are in strategic locations not crowdy residential areas like churches and mosques

PETER FATOMILOLA ...I heard he's a lecturer

theunusualmoon:
Please feel free to give us both or any.

Am not an Onisegun...

FOLYKAZE:
Science is universal and not just western.

That's why I said this
"as defined by western culture"

ebubemicky:
guy go back to your secondary school English text books am sure u skipped classes nd for calling me a buffoon that shows how degenerated and how mentally ill u are. Ur type just snoop around looking for who to pick silly arguments with. I can't argue with an illiterate like you. U are probably a tout or a juber who go about causing nuisance. I would hv said a word is enough for the wise but u are not wise, so I will say be warned Mr buffoon

dude I would school you in english. .. you don't even know me so how can you be sure I skipped classes?. ..the stupidity people display . Gosh! Where did I call you buffoon? You lack good comprehension skills...read my post 3 more times and digest..find out who I referred to as a buffoon

Btw my argument is legit. .. learn it now that it's "Gods"

FOLYKAZE:
I have not found one that can give me scientific explanation.

"Scientific explanation" as defined by western culture or anything else goes?

FOLYKAZE:
scientist. Even if na student, if he can provide scienitific explanation, na go we dey

I thought so. And so you think an Onisegun cannot explain the Ogun he prepared?

FOLYKAZE:
Must it be established scientist?

Who do you have in mind then?

dalaman:
Having ogun is very different from it working as claimed, even the boko haram members that were gunned down mostly have charms and amulets tied round their waist and other parts of their bodies which they believe will protect them against the bullets of the Nigerian army but it failed them. Their pictures are all over the internet.

Then one could say this is a case of Ogun pass Ogun

dalaman:
They've come again. Please can you give your ogun or what ever to the people living in the north to use against boko haram?

Why do people like bringing up this nonsense? Did you hear the northerns beg for Ogun from the Yorubas?

FOLYKAZE:
there are natural phenomenon which cannot be explained yet. This is supernatural events. When there is explanations, it becomes natural phenomenon.

I want at least a guy on ground because of their dabaru. Using a gun without license you know na. When everything is set, I will post date here and upload things online. I know they will want to twist things out but that will be better than doing nothing

So something is only natural when established scientists say it is?

9jacrip:
Orunto, my paternal grandma's compound but of jaojo line.

Met the present Obalufe a few times even during my B.A research project which he helped with.

Thanks for the mention egbon macof.

Obalufe is like the prime minister. Obalufe was the head of Iremo Quarters, Obajio was the head of Moore Axis, Obaloran was of Ilode, Obalaaye was Iraye (now Modakeke), Owaasin of Ilare.

These were part of the political heads of Ife at the time of Oduduwa (I am still trying to get his actual name, I am tired of using this appellation).

They'd say Ife me'fa, Elu ni ikeje (there are 6 Ifes, Elu makes the 7th). Those chiefs were 'probably' the 6 Ifes.

Keep in mind Ife was divided into about 13 hamlets each operating independently. There were other rulers who were god-kings who now occupy the 'isoro' (right hand) chiefs of Ife: the Oloja Iranje, the Araba, the Oramfe etc.

Each of the political heads were originally charged with receiving the duty of receiving guests from specific Yoruba towns as Ooni was invisible.

Obalufe duty was to receive all guests within Ife and prevent anyone from seeing the Ooni. He was what you would call the 'first shipmate' to the Ooni 'captain' of the Ife ship.

Overtime, this role morphed into him becoming the second in hierarchical chain with others taking position but not really above each other but playing their roles.

He was just the eyes, mouth and hands of the veiled Ooni who was not to be seen or spoken to by anyone outside the palace circle. Inclusive of the other chiefs, sometimes his wives/kids and even Emese except the Sarun.

9jacrip always bringing new things

Ewo ni Elu? I only know the "6 Ifes"

how do the Obalaaye and Ogunsua coexist then?

abysirius:
Sango was never d 1st Alaafin. Ask around. We have students of history in d house. Sango has an elder brother(Alaafin Ajaka). Though he was later sent into exile, he ruled Oyo before Sango. In fact, history has it that Oranyan was d first king in Oyo..

I thought robosky02 made this clear

SaviorJenvini:
CALABAR is the only internationally Marketable thing I see here!!!

You've never heard of Osun River festival?

9jacrip:
No, Olojo festival.

Oh yes true

Radoillo:
I never heard of this Ivory Festival - is it a new thing?

And the picture you attached to it seems to depict a different festival alltogether - the Ofala Festival, perhaps.

@robosky02
Just like this picture you posted for Sharo/Shadi ...this is actually a festival in Ife, probably Oranmiyan festival. ..it has all the symbols of an Ife festival

You do a survey?

bigfrancis21:
Unfortunately, the issue of Osu still exists in pockets of Igboland, especially in Imo state. In the case of your friend wanting to marry from an 'Osu' family, according to Igbo traditions, any diala (freeborn) who marries an osu or into an Osu family 'automatically' becomes an Osu, including the family of the diala. That explains the guy's family's recalcitrant stance with the marriage plans.

The practice has got to stop as it is indiscriminate practise amongst ourselves in this age of enlightenment and truth.

@bold...I guess this explains the majority of Yoruba man-Igbo woman marriages in Igboland with the ladies coming mostly from Imo state.

how do you know they are coming from Imo state?

Ogboru wants to produce the next Ooni again? They should relax and follow due process so as to not cause aggression in the holy land

However, the Government of Ife is like the UK
Obalufe is the prime minister running things as head of Government while the Ooni(Olufe) is the head of state with certain reserved powers

You see we began this separation of powers and Constitutional monarchy way before Britain

There seems to be some truth in this

Obalufe itself could mean King of the Nation of Ife

But prior to the unification by Oduduwa, Obalufe was already an established title restricted to Parakin...not the whole Ife

the Obalufe was a close associate of Oduduwa named Orunto

@9jacrip egbon mi, any inputs?

ebubemicky:
that shows ur level of education I guess u skipped English classes, if not u should have known that God or Jehova are are referred to with capital letter G while idols shrines nd the likes are referred to with small letter g. Hv u ever seen where some one writes Gods be4? U can only see gods. Let me stop here u can go to goggle for more education. Thanks

honestly in my drunkest state I would still make better sense than this. ..

Only out of religious sentiments does anyone begin a title of such with low case. .. There's nothing like gods. .
Simple understanding of English tells that It should be rendered "Gods"
But if you can write "gods" then I will refer to your no good buffoon Jehova as "god" just to annoy you
Maybe that can kick sense into u

Bonapart:
it might be too late for you
Hell awaits every unbeliever

if by the craziest twist you are right we unbelievers will make hell better than heaven

MisterG:
Brothers of humanity yes, since all humans on earth is basically related or 50 cousins away from each other. When living in Sudan did i hear anything about Ijebu people. No Most people do not know anything about Nigeria besides footballers. However if you want to draw connection, some of the languages in the South Kordofan are of the Niger-Congo family. Other than that, no one in Sudan knows the Ijebu people. Most people in Sudan are more knowledgeable of their neighbors Egyptian, Ethiopians, Eritreans, South Sudanese now different country, Chadians etc. Nigeria is further from people minds, since we do not border you.

ok you are Sudanese

glad to know that Y'all don't know the Ijebus. ..so Awujale must have been mistaken

freecocoa:
Believe in babalawos or dibias and their gods.

Why not? must everybody believe in a dead jew or any arab desert ex-moon deity?

hola106:
Jesus s not gods I tink u shld upgrade ur brain

ok jesus is son of a god
after raping a virgin girl

Bonapart:
like i said accept CHRIST first then your eyes will open

Bonapart:
no you need help from CHRIST mr macof

Sorry I don't do dead jews

Bonapart:
you think you're funny
You need to accept JESUS CHRIST as your personal Lord and saviour first before you understand these mystery

ok so I need to be deluded first?

makes sense

freecocoa:
And people still believe in it, smh.

believe in what exactly?

Bonapart:
And some fools Will still tell you to support tradition

Another part to hell

our traditons are still better than the nonsense of enriching ur pastor while you go hungry

bigboss80s:
The gods must be crazy

hola106:
D gods most b crazy, lol

ebubemicky:
The gods must be crazy heheheeheehehe lekwanu upgrade ooh heheheeheehehe

I hope you know that Jesus, allah, Jehova are gods
they all crazy then