Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 12:44am On Aug 22, 2015 |
HsLBroker: you will soon know
Amazing Facts About Ijebus: 1. Ijebus were the first people to have contact with Europeans in 14th century.
2. Ijebus were the first tobe educated by western education.
3. Ijebu is the largest Ethnic group in Nigeria.
4. First people to manufacture gears of wars in history of Nigeria.
6. The first people to invent money made from cowry shell, later made Coin called"PANDORA" , which acceptable through Africa and Europe.
7. Ijebus were first settlement in Lagos and Ibadan.
8. Ijebu is the only tribe in nigeria that has its origin from bible days.
9. According to the Biblical account;The Jebusites were a Canaanite tribe who inhabited and built Jerusalem prior to its conquest by King David
11. The Europeans Observers found them more intelligent than theother groups in Nigeria.
12. When Oduduwa was blind, Ijebu King(fifth Awujale) was the one to provide remedy to restore the sight.
14. Ijebu was the one to raise agitation for emancipation from colonialism.
What a great National!
The Regional capital is Ijebu Ode.
The Commercial capital is Sagamu
The Spiritual capital is Ijebu Igbo You really believe this? So you believe everything you read from blogs? Can you even prove these? |
Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 12:32am On Aug 22, 2015 |
HsLBroker: if you are a good research then you will agree with me that the etiquette of research doesn't support insulting fellow researcher, for your information if you are opportune to meet awujale tell him you met of the prince of ijebu ode call prince mabadeje adeniyi, he would tell you his forefather once an awujale of ijebu ode.
so be respectful.
and mind you there is no ijebu descendant that will ever acted the way oni acted during 1993 election, during Abacha regime and during jonathan regime and this last election.
read your book well brother, i don't believe in story of your forefather came down from heaven with chain like you want me to believe , selling your right because of greed is not in our own blood
we are: omo olobi wo ro ko eba ona, eyi to je ti wa awo si o do wa, eyi ti kose ti wa a wo si eba ona ki eranko oko ma ri oun je
meaning: we kolanut planter, the kolanut that ripe and fall on our portion of land is our own, the one that ripe and fall else where belong another person. So you are from Ijebu ode and descended from Obanta through ur father's lineage? The same Obanta that came from Ife? If you are not yoruba why do you speak Yoruba language. .that came from Ife |
Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 12:27am On Aug 22, 2015 |
sportfeva: Ok, you seems right. The most info is that he travel from Mecca and not chain myth. So, what the Language. It means he embrace it. Oduduwa was never from mecca. ..nd the Oduduwa said to come via a chain was a spiritual stuff explained in symbolism Y'all should get familiar with yoruba traditions |
Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 12:24am On Aug 22, 2015 |
olukenzo: Ijebu history, check.
You're right. As told by oral tradition, the Idoko people were the autochthonous dwellers of Ijebu and they have either all died off or been assimilated by the settlers from Ife. Yes they occupied from Ijebu to Ondo city..until settlers from Ife (not sudan) came to set up dynasties and towns in the area Their descendants still exist in Ondo, Idanre. The ones that matter here are Scattered around Ijebu. ..but just for tradition and history sake cus they have totally assimilated into the "Ijebu" culture which has its origins from Ife |
Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 12:17am On Aug 22, 2015 |
Dindondin: really. Where are you from? Don't tell me it's Nubia or Whaddai I mean this coming from sudan stuff is just as dumb as Oduduwa coming from Mecca It's Strange how people fall deep for this nonsense Waddai that they refer to is actually Owodaiye. .Ife Owodaiye, the first Ife |
Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 12:08am On Aug 22, 2015 |
HsLBroker: the picture doesn't matter, do you know how your ancestor dress 500 years ago.
Now let me tell you if you don't know the history of the Ijebus or the Gbebus, better ask google, We are not the descendant of Oni or oduduwa that claim he came to ife by chain from heaven, i sorry for my yoruba teacher that thought me that when i was in primary school, and i'm proud to boldly told my children to challenge the moral and thinking faculty of any teacher trying or willing to teach them same, that how come, even Jesus the savor of the whole world (the son of God) didn't came down from heaven with a chain, This ife and oduduwa story is what i called mumbo jumbo. You are only being gullible. ..did you just say "ask Google"? For yoruba history u ask Google? Relying on Stuupid bloggers trying to sell their work with huge traffic Stop being lazy nd ask the elders around u. ..move round ask questions ..read from reliable historians And what makes ur jesus superior to Oduduwa Jigbini bi Ate Ekun? Oduduwa is also son of God So it's the story of a virgin giving birth, jesus elevating into space nd talking donkeys nd snakes that isn't mumbo jumbo? |
Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 11:56pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
ahamonyeka: But I thought oduduwa was one of the sons of the first oba of benin who happens to send his son oduduwa during the war and they got to osun and settled down there and start ruling osun until they migrated to lagos at lagos island and use there as a war camp which make them name it EKO meaning war camp in bini dialect.
Though I can't just recall the history again cos I did it in my university days in my GST.(nigerian peoples and culture) Oga please go back to your university if you can cus what you've posted here is not so at all |
Culture › Re: Who Are The Akoko Of Northern Ondo State? by macof(m): 8:33pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
9jacrip: An old thread but I should add this quickly:
Ancient Benin/Edo used Oghiso, not Oba.
Prior to Oduduwa, Ife (Yoruba) had several hamlets all headed by Kings. The lineage of these kings are still in existance and these kings still play the role of controlling their hamlets with Ooni being the overall head thereby reducing them to what seems like 'Chief-King' status.
Some of these kings before Oranmiyan was born or even went to set up Oba Benin in Benin Empire were: Obalufe, Obawinrin, Obalaaye, Obatala, Obadio, Obaloran, Obajio, Obalurin, Obanurin, Obalale, Obalesun, Obalejugbe, Obalepon the list is long, I'll stop here.
From the above, tell me how 'Oba' which means 'the person overseeing, sitting, lording over everything' is a Benin word again and how Yoruba borrowed it and used it for many centuries before Oranmiyan went to give Benin 'Oba of Benin' dynasty. I know the rest but not Obalurin, Obanurin and Obalepon |
Culture › Re: Babalorisa Paulo: Most Sophisticated Babalawo In The World (Photos) by macof(m): 8:31pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
majamajic: There's Brazilian qtrs in lagos island Yes they are in Ebuttemeta too |
Politics › Re: US Frowns At Oshiomhole Over Comments On $6bn Theft by macof(m): 8:27pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Oshomole keeps embarrassing himself I miss the oshomole of NLC this governor is a madman |
Culture › Re: Babalorisa Paulo: Most Sophisticated Babalawo In The World (Photos) by macof(m): 8:17pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
bulldoza: Fixed Is he(the Babalawo) not worshiping God? |
Culture › Re: Babalorisa Paulo: Most Sophisticated Babalawo In The World (Photos) by macof(m): 8:15pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
breakeven: What religion, what culture. Where were they when the whitemans religion and the other satanic religion took over the people? Abeg commot for road jare. How does this make sense to you? |
Culture › Re: Babalorisa Paulo: Most Sophisticated Babalawo In The World (Photos) by macof(m): 8:12pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Amazo: Ask your voodoo gods who kicked their asses all across the globe: from Eurasia across the Himalayas and Mediterranean to Persia to Mesopotamia to Africa across the Atlantic to the Americas. Ask them who made them bleed and beg as they crawled wounded back to the hell they came from, while your sorcerers watched in frightful despair and utter disbelief as they were burnt on stakes. Then they will tell you who our fathers were. Again not making any sense Were you born like this? |
Culture › Re: Babalorisa Paulo: Most Sophisticated Babalawo In The World (Photos) by macof(m): 8:04pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Amazo: Culture is okay but sorcery is evil. Don't be fooled, there's a huge difference between culture and sorcery, but mixing up the two is how the advocates of sorcery have perpetuated this evil thing for thousands of years. Sorcery and Science: this world isn't big enough for the two of us! For this reason are we here, and whether anyone likes it or not, we will finally do what Mother Nature has always been yearning to do - MAKE YOU EXTINCT!!! Our fathers made your voodoo gods bleed, and made their regal kingdoms slave dungeons; but we'll do what they didn't do - make your voodoo gods die . You just made absolutely NO SENSE |
Culture › Re: Babalorisa Paulo: Most Sophisticated Babalawo In The World (Photos) by macof(m): 7:58pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
majamajic: He must be from Brazil Yes he is Remember Micheal Jackson's "they don't really care about us" video shot in Brazil? The band was wearing this shirt. ..those are Yoruba descendants in Brazil still keeping the culture alive Olodum = Olodumare Maybe this can appeal to the cognition of africans in africa. ..we need to go back to our ways
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Culture › Re: Babalorisa Paulo: Most Sophisticated Babalawo In The World (Photos) by macof(m): 7:57pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Xsolutions: WAOH! So Cool ,Only wish he was serving Jesus... Well he knows better. ..the slave masters tried forcing jesus on his great grand fathers but they were too smart for that. .. Unfortunately ur own great grandfathers were gullible |
Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 7:37pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
omoiseselagba: IJEBUS ARE NOT YORUBA.THAT IS THE TRUTH.WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE! What makes Ekiti, Ijesa, Egba to be yoruba? When u can answer this you will know that which makes Ijebu yoruba Unless u believe dat sudan nonsense? |
Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 7:34pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
oakson: Oosa okanlelerinwo ni be l'odu Ife, Okan soso ni Jesu tin gbogbo aye nbo Oku ni Jesu |
Culture › Re: Ile-ife - The Cradle Of Yoruba Race, Fact, Myth And Belief by macof(m): 7:27pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
eluquenson: Ok I am a native of Ijebu land, am not a descendant of Ife Are you from the idoko lineages? Cus if you aren't then sorry ur ancestors came straight from Ife Stop buying into those nonsense by jobless bloggers Yet if we check well the idokos were probably from Ife too Afterall According to the Yoruba, all of humanity traces it's origins to Ife |
Culture › Re: Ijebus Are Not Yoruba !!! by macof(m): 4:18pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
The fool Tonychristopher opened this thread to cause confusion. .but Ebita didn't grant his bidding Igbo man wants to become Yoruba history teacher  |
Politics › Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by macof(m): 4:11pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
cheruv: Thanks alot for this. The other day I was arguing with that hideous hypocrite called laudate on ijebus and aworis not being Yoruba and he was talking otherwise, just bkos he's Yoruba. 
https://www.nairaland.com/1975320/ancient-igbo-rule-over-parts Keep it up bro have you finished clearing ur house before u start causes confusion with others? If bloggers are so stupid to post anything they like let them . .. The Ijebus know the Obanta dynasty is from Ife So do the Awori know that the father of the Idejo chiefs was from Ife Igbos go console ur Ika, Aniocha, Ikwere brothers who have openly denied any association with you |
Politics › Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by macof(m): 3:56pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
FKO81: [b]THE IJEBU PEOPLE ARE SUDANESE THE Ijebu People inhabit the South-Central part of Yorubaland - a territory that is bounded in the North by Ibadan, in the East by Ondo, Okitipupa and the West by Egbaland. The Southern fringe is open to the sea with the coastlines of Epe, Ejinrin and Ikorodu. Despite the political division which has these three towns in Lagos while the main part of Ijebuland is Ogun State, the people have always regarded themselves as one entity even when the immigration legends which have often been cited point in different directions.
There are immigration legends which tend to link the Ijebu with the biblical Jebusites and Noah (hence Omoluwabi -- omo ti Noah bi -- the children of Noah) but these are farfetched. Other immigration legends trace the origin of Yoruba people, and by implication, the Ijebu to Mecca where Oduduwa, the legendary ancestor of the Yoruba, was said to be the son of King Lamurudu. Oduduwa, according to the legend, had to be expelled from Mecca when he resorted to idolatry. This is another unacceptable story in that it implied that the Yoruba must have come into existence as a group after faithful Muslims expelled Oduduwa some 1,500 years ago. 
Ijebu traditional historians tend to stick to the migration legend that the people migrated to their present territory from a region of Sudan called Waddai which means that the Ijebu had a parallel migration wave just like other Yoruba who believe they came to their present abode via Oduduwa. That claim seems to be corroborated by a publication by one Hailemariam which states that "the most powerful people that the Negede Orit (ancient Ethiopian immigrant into Africa) met in East Africa were the Jebus." Their King was claimed to be so influential that he appointed the governors of Yemen. If that king was the same Olu-Iwa, the legendary first Ruler of Ijebuland, we do not know.
There is a lot of evidence in support of the fact that the Ijebus migrated into Nigeria from Sudan. The most obvious is the Sudanese tribal mark which, though varied, is duplicated all over Yorubaland. In particular, the three vertical marks on both cheeks are the national marks in Ijebu. Moreover, in the border between South Sudan and Ethiopia, the original language which Arabic language has superseded is very similar to Ijebu dialect. Names of people such as Saba, Esiwu, Meleki (corruption of Menelik) and many others are still common in Ijebu and the South of Sudan. A kind of flute which was formerly used during the coronation ceremony of the Awujale is still used in Ethiopia and South of Sudan. In the second place, the passage quoted from 'Ethiopian History' by Hailemariam at the beginning of this essay shows that Negede Orit which entered Ethiopia several centuries before King Solomon and the famous Makida, Queen of Sheba (about 900 B.C.) met the Ijebus on the east Coast of Southern Sudan.
The ancestors of the Ijebus who now inhabit Ijebu-Ode and districts came into Nigeria from the ancient Kingdom of Owodaiye of Ethiopia which came to an end as a result of Arab supremacy in Middle East and the Sudan where Owodaiye was situated. The Kingdom of Owodaiye was bounded in the North by Nubia; in the East by Tigre and the Kingdom of Axum; in the West there was no clear boundary, while along its South-Eastern border, it was bounded by the land of Punt. With these people the Ijebus share their culture and religion. With the Tigrians and ancient Axumites the Ijebus share their tribal marks which are made up of three vertical marks on the cheeks while with the Egyptians, the Nubians and Puntite people, the Ijebu share many of their funeral rites, the Agemo cult and the Erikiran.
The Yorubas in Nubia were the nearest people to the Ijebus in Owo aiye. Even the Ijebus differ from the Yoruba in many respects. For example, while the main Yoruba group practice circumcision on both male and female members of the family, the Ijebus never practice it on the female members; the Yorubas used to bore the lower part of the ear in both male and female while the male never bore in Ijebu.
The first major wave of Sudanese that entered Nigeria was led by Iwase who came to Ife several centuries before the major Sudanese immigrations under Oduduwa and Olu-Iwa. The Iwase group of immigrants came during the reign of Esumare of Ife Erinrin. The next group of Sudanese immigrants were the Ijebus and the kindred peoples under Olu-Iwa, who entered the country at about the same time as the Yoruba under Oduduwa. There are many reasons to believe that they arrived before the main Yoruba group. The most important reason was stated in a Yoruba tradition that when Oduduwa was alive, he became partially blind and went to consult Agbonniregun, an Ife Priest, with a view to finding out what he must apply to his eyes to regain his sight. Agbonniregun recommended brine and so Oduduwa had to send one of his sons, Obokun, to the sea to bring him sea water. The latter wandered for many years in vain until he came to the King of Ijebu for help. This king sent a messenger to guide him to the sea and on Obokun's return to !Ijebu, the King of the ljebus (Lewu Legusen) gave Obokun medicines for Oduduwa's eyes. And when Oduduwa applied the brine and the medicine, he regained his sight. The above tradition shows that the ljebus were in Nigeria before the main Yoruba stock because the king of Ijebu referred to was The fifth Awujale. In appreciation of this service, Oduduwa determined to visit the King of Ijebu, but he died about fifteen miles east of Ijebu-Ode. His followers settled down at Idofe, a town which has now become extinct.
The Ijebu legend tracing their origin to Waddai must have brought the known rivalry between them and other Yoruba people. If, indeed, Lamurudu and Oduduwa descended from Omu, the younger brother of Olu-Iwa, there is some sense in the claim that the Ijebus are senior to other Yorubas and cannot, therefore, accept the junior position that put them under the Ooni of Ife or Alafin of Oyo.
The bulk of Yoruba people regard the ljebus as peripheral Yoruba while the ljebus themselves do not hide the fact that the cohesion between them and others who call themselves central Yoruba has been the result of cultural and political interaction over the centuries. Time itself has taken care of these legends as the various groups of people in Western Nigeria have come to accept a common Nationality as Yoruba, be they Ekiti, Ijesha, Egba, Ondo, Ijebu, etc.. Even among the Ijebus, there are conflicting claims to the source of origin depending on the political intention of those concerned. Irrespective of these claims, the Ijebus are united under the leadership of the Awujale of Ijebuland and this unity is the strength of the people as exhibited by their achievements in the past 40 years of the reign of Oba Sikiru Adetona, Ogbagba II. [/b] I believe people have dealt with this nonsense shit about Oduduwa coming from mecca or ijebu coming from sudan |
Culture › Re: Photos From The Osun Osogbo Festival by macof(m): 3:51pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
UpLoyo: 2015, still bowing down for an idol that a man made... I don't know why some people still bow to this nonsense in the image below
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Culture › Re: Photos From The Osun Osogbo Festival by macof(m): 3:48pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
LEOSIRSIR: ;DPeople come and see ooo, the abobaku have just surfaced from sacred forest in ife. As history demands Osun groove is one of the sacred forest  abobaku when Sijuade has already been buried? |
Culture › Re: Photos From The Osun Osogbo Festival by macof(m): 3:48pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
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Politics › Re: Nigerian History: 10 Notable Moments In The History Of Nigeria by macof(m): 3:35pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
kaura5000: You are not correct... since early 7th century there's the great hausa city states and the all powerful kanem bornu empire Very true. ..even Ife had 90 kings before Oduduwa I think what gives Nri the top position is due to the fact that since it's foundation in the 10th century, it's had one and the same dynasty |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by macof(m): 3:15pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Jesus is dead and he will always remain dead |
Culture › Re: Photos From The Osun Osogbo Festival by macof(m): 3:05pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
Richie0974: Whatever... Though shall have no other god except me(Jehovah).... am not a Jehovah Witness ooo  That doesn't apply to us africans. That is to the jews |
Culture › Re: Photos From The Osun Osogbo Festival by macof(m): 3:05pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
LEOSIRSIR: The early history of the Oshogbo people is founded on mythical and spiritual beliefs, along the lines of the traditions of the Yoruba people. The Osun River goddess is credited with the founding and establishment of Oshogbo town. Some accounts describe her as Oso-Igbo, the queen and original founder of Oshogbo town. Thus, the Osun Oshogbo festival, which has been celebrated for about six hundred centuries, was built around a relationship between the river goddess, Osun, and the first monarch of Oshogbo kingdom, Oba Gbadewolu Larooye. Many centuries ago, hunters from a nearby village (Ipole Omu), named Larooye and Olatimehin and their subjects migrated in search of water. They finally settled at a place very near the Osun River in present day Osogbo. Later, Larooye became the first Ataoja (King) of Osogbo, as one of the initial builders of the settlement. These men and their subjects knew nothing about the administration of the goddess of the Osun River. As time passed by, members of the established community were engaged in preparation of grounds for a planting season when a tree fell into the river and a mysterious voice was heard from the Osun River saying: "Larooye, Olatimehin, gbogbo Ikoko Aro mi leti fo tan”, meaning, you have destroyed all my dinning pots. Having heard this mysterious voice, they were afraid for they never knew how the goddess of the river knew their names. After Oba Larooye and other lesser spirits within the community pacified the goddess of the river by saying, “Oso-Igbo pele o, Oso igbo roar”, the ancient city was said to have derived her name from the mysterious voice from the lesser spirit made to pacify the goddess of Osun River, thus Oso-Igbo pele o; Oso-igbo rora, was abbreviated to Osogbo. Same goes for the royal title, Ataoja which was derived from the function which the goddess of Osun River advised the first Oba (King) to perform during the last day of the then festival, Atewogbeja, which is abbreviated to Ataoja. The dense forest of the Osun Sacred Grove on the outskirts of the city of Osogbo is one of the last remnants of primary high forest in southern Nigeria. Regarded as the abode of the goddess of fertility, Osun, one of the pantheons of Yoruba gods, the landscape of the grove and its meandering river is dotted with sanctuaries and shrines, sculptures and art works in honour of Osun and other deities. The sacred grove, which is now seen as a symbol of identity for all Yoruba people, is probably the last in Yoruba culture. It testifies to the once widespread practice of establishing sacred groves outside all settlements. There are still many sacred forests in Ife. .. |
Culture › Re: Photos From The Osun Osogbo Festival by macof(m): 3:03pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
sigiyaya: Yoruba and Fetishism Christianity and islam are also about fetishism |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian 'paganism' Thread by macof(m): 3:02pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: How many wifes Orunmila get self? Everything is almost his wife Apparently so many Osun, Odu, Iwa, these are the popular three But like I said, Ifa speaks of history and Spirituality |
Culture › Re: Photos From The Osun Osogbo Festival by macof(m): 2:57pm On Aug 21, 2015 |
moyinoluwabun: Thanks for d correction. Meanwhile, d coming of Jesus Christ was basically because of them, to give them life abundantly.  do you have life more abundantly than Wole Soyinka - a confirmed Ogun devotee |