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striktlymi:
God!

when has god ever defined marriage..
Is it the one men said god said?

MEILYN:
Abeg make my ancestors go rest for one side jare... Them don die, dem don die... I gat nothing to do with them sir. I be Igala shaa

dem don die but don't let their legacy die
They still live in you, as you lived in them

fem30:
Thanks a lot. It is highly appreciated. So Ogidan is a bigger name to Ajanaku.

not exactly. Unless u think hunting a lion is bigger than hunting an elephant

striktlymi:
Olodo

Says the person who thinks a demon jet caused the collapse

asalimpo:
i dare say ,if you were a christian ever, you never knew the reason you believed. And you never had any real relationship with God so He wasnt real to you. Everything u did was all dry meaningless motion, it doesnt take long for you to get tired of the hypocrisy and throw in d towel.
Especially when u see ur fellow christians living double lives .

The reason every Christian born believes all the ridiculous Christian dogmas is because of
1. The people around him/her- family and church force it on him from childhood
A stage when he is too fragile minded and easily deceived into anything
2. The Christian born has only ever known the Christian dogmas to the mysteries of the universe...he has nothing to compare and contrast with
3. The fear of hell and eternal damnation keeps the Christian born captured

abula112:
oyo id different frm ibadan

Lol you don't know Yoruba history...pls run along

asalimpo:
nimrod didnt try to create a NWO.
God didnt change human language.

Like i said do ur research.
Even som atheists will reprimand you for your ignorance on this.

How would africa here of nimrod wen the world as at then was congregated in one place and spoke one language?
After the confusion of tongues men dispersed to populate the world. Logical.
Very logcal.
Ur deductions are poor. Ur calibre of reasong is poor , for i hav to tell u this!
Prepare properly bf u reply.
Stop shooting from d hip.


"Some silly Jewish Prick from d sky "
- you guys can't help but cuss God!
Somthg about becomg an atheist and an uncontrollable urge to cuss God and Jesus!
Lol. Bro, i understand. It's spiritual.
Jesus Loves you as you are.
Satan hates you and wants to take you and all ur fellow atheists to hell.
When u want to cuss God ,dyu think it's really u doing it?
Think.
Dyu wanna cus som1 u dont believe is real?
U ar exhibiting genuine hate and anger!
Jesus is real bro.

Didnt isreal win in the battle against amalek?
Hmmn. Now,thts my boy you did som research! My am impressed.
We are now getting into deep things. Namely,the character of God.
First, God is a Sovereign.
The closest analogy,is the image of an Ancient King, not a modern diplomatic president.
The word of a king is power.
God had said,actually said is a weak word,the right word is "decreed", a decree cannot b upturned.
If an earthly kings words had so much power,how much more the words of the utmost sovereign God?
God decreed tht any1 who blessed his own He God wud bless and any one who cursed His own He God wud curse
(see God's promise to Abraham).
With tht word released,there is no going back.
Amalek attacked without cause , yeah,they were temporarily fended off. But thts not enuff.
Jericho did the same.
On God's scale of justice,the weight to bring the scale to balance was annahilation.
This isnt vengeance or vengefulness but justice.
Sin and wickedness has a weight. It is like a debt. It must b paid to bring things to balance.
In OT Jesus had not yet died.
So He hadnt paid d price for Man's sins. So when man's debt accumulated on the scale , God wud send people to warn man, to stop heaping up d sin gravy.
But man wud often ignore until it got to danger point. Then God would hav to mete out justice.
Sin is a weight tht has to b paid.
Understand this . God never wantonly lashed out at people in the OT.
We cannot humanly, decipher how the weight of sin is. But God does and his justice is fair and just even if it doesnt look so to us.
Wat happens wen sin goes unpunished .i.e untreated?
I mean by a human justice system?
The sin like gangrene causes death/stagnation/decay in the land.
Would you like to hav a land where there's prosperity,peace,progress?
Then sin must b eliminated by the justice system in tht land.
Because sin causes death.
When adam sinned, he first hand witnessed death. The lamb God killed to cloth him and his wife.
Next,death entered creation.

It wasnt God's plan.
It wasnt God's plan for the sun to scorch the earth or for a leaf to die on a tree or for ur grandmum to have a wrinkle.
What u see in d OT is God delivering justice as at wen due to balance the sins of man.

When u atheists want to critique wat u dont know think about this.

Long yarns with not one of my points addressed

pls address my posts like an educated fellow if you are

Massive001:
1400 Foundation of Oyo Empire
1835 Invasion by Fulani Empire
1888 British protectorate
1400 to ? Oranyan , Alaafin
? to ? Ajaka , Alaafin
? to ? Shango , Alaafin
? to ? A)ljaka (restored) , Alaafin
? to ? Aganju , Alaafin
? to ? Kori, Alaafin
? to ? Oluaso , Alaafin
1500 to ? Onigbogi , Alaafin
? to ? Ofirin , Alaafin
? to ? Eguguojo , Alaafin
? to ? Orompoto, Alaafin
1600 to ? Abipa , Alaafin
? to ? Obalokun , Alaafin
? to ? Oluodo , Alaafin
? to Ajagbo , Alaafin
? to ? Odarawu , Alaafin
? to ? Kanran , Alaafin
? to ? Jayin , Alaafin
? to ? Ayibi , Alaafin
? to ? Osiyago, Alaafin
1728 to 1730 Ojigi, Alaafin
1730 to 1746 Gberu, Alaafin
1746 Amuniwaiye , Alaafin
1746 to 1754 Onisile , Alaafin
1754 Labisi, Alaafin
1754 Awonbioju , Alaafin
1754 Agboluaje, Alaafin
1754 to 1770 Majeogbe, Alaafin
1770 to 1789 Abiodun, Alaafin
1789 to 1796 Awole Arogangan, Alaafin
1796 to 1797 Adebo, Alaafin
1797 Makua , Alaafin
1797 to 1802 vacant , vacant
1802 to 1830 Majotu , Alaafin
1830 to 1833 Amodo , Alaafin
1833 to 1835 Oluewu , Alaafin
1837 to 1859 Atiba Atobatele, Alaafin
1859 to 1875 Adelu , Alaafin
1876 to 1888 Adeyemi I Alowolodu, Alaafin
1888 to 1905 Adeyemi I Alowolodu
1905 to 1911 Lawani Agogoja
1911 to 1944 Siyanbola Onikepe Oladigbolu I
1944 to 1945 Regent
1945 to 1955 Adeyemi II Adeniran
1955 to 1956 Regent
1956 to 1960 Bello Gbadegesin Oladigbolu II
1960 to 1968 Bello Gbadegesin Oladigbolu II
19 November 1970 to Present
Lamidi Olayiwola Adeyemi III

This is from wikipedia

I think it is wrong.

If Oranmiyan established oyo.after he left Benin in 1300AD it's illogical to say 1400 is the period oyo was established as Oranmiyan must have been way over 100yrs old

Oyo was most certainly founded around 1320 AD or earlier

asalimpo:
the babylonians where d embodiment of evil. Dont even try to debate this scour d bible,
nimrod founded babylon. Married his mother,killed his father,set up the first world order, invented and introduced sorcery.
Guy,do ur research.
The goal of many secret societies is to revive the old babylonian empire. Which,the anti christ will successfully do.
God came down in person to foil the first unified anti God society by changing man's language.

About d ameliktes stop talkg crap. You arent even tryng to hide ur biase. Amalek and Jericho and d reason for their over throw is documented in d bible.
They and pharoah earned their retribution.

Lmao pls who's this Nimrod that set world order?
Nimrod that Africans.don't know

ur silly Nimrod didn't set world order if he did the world would speak of him not just Jews

God never came down to change language...where's ur proof?
Yoruba people say as humans left Ife, they drank different river waters that changed their languages
Yoruba hypothesis is even more logically than some silly Jewish prick coming down from the sky to change human language

The amaleks troubled the Israelites yes, but did Jericho, Midian or Bethel?

compare the atrocities Hebrews committed against amalekites with the small trouble they faced with amalek in exodus 17:8-13
Didn't the Hebrews win in the battle? Why go again after many years utterly destroy them when the supposed god of Israel is forgiven and lovely

Pharaoh's heart was hardened by ur god

asalimpo:
paul took the gospel to philosophical athens. Those guys almost discovered calculus. They were the worlds intellectual nerve base and yet men smarter than you accepted Christ.
Professors are accepting Christ,how much more lesser thinkers.
That is because when d light of God's word shines on d heart of man,He sees his sinful state. Then decides whether to admit he is a sinner and accept God's free gift of salvation or harden his heart like pharoah and plod on in his sins unto perdition.
Sorry, bro Christianity is a spiritual thing not a mental thing.
Romans 10v10:
With the heart man believes ...
(heart/spirit man).
Believe what ! ? The gospel
and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation.



Not
"With the head man Reasons
his way to God".

It's a heart thing.

Pls address my post and quit your rubbish

Professors and intellectuals are accepting Christ
Which ones? The ones in ur church?

striktlymi:
A response that is appropriate for your silly questions...

1) It is uncommon for buildings less than ten years old to collapse in Nigerian. This is the first I have seen or heard of.

2) Go ask those who approved the plan to show you the requisite evidence of approval.

3) Until you verify question 2) this question is very silly.

4) Another silly question. What shred of evidence, apart from 'dem say', do you have to prove the foundation is not appropriate for the number of floors the building had?

I don't bloody care who is proud or ashamed of me and I bloody don't need you to b proud of me.

Coming from a Christian this is grossly hypocritical
But then it's nt new for a Christian to hide in the face of lies and hypocrisy to please his pastor and god

MEILYN:
looOoool. I don retire ooo

my God say make I revert u back to ur ancestors. Which tribe u be sef?

Timothy3113:
mimicks yuyu is not a religion. Big mounthed , atheist.

I can see you are jobless...you've been following me all over nairaland

Pls why is it that almost all ijaw related online articles are linking them to Adimula- the 3rd king of Ile-Ife??

Lawcurrent:
Please muslim your messages to my timeline sounds senseless, why saying jesus is not the founder of Christianity, abi na ur father not insult but question in a joke way. Make your way strenght and stop deceiving yourselves. note better jesus is coming soon!

You read in the Bible that Jesus is coming soon abi? The same Bible that can't be validated outside itself

asalimpo:
if u want a free theological education politely ask for one.
Stop critiquing wat u dont know even wen it's obvious you can know it.

Coming outta egypt , amalek attacked the children of Isreal without cause.
The people of Isreal were God's people. Get it?
He gave egypt as a ransom for them. Gettit.
U mess with God's people, you mess with God himself.
Amalek messed with God's people.
And when the time of judgement was right, God brought, judgement on them. They were to b obliterated off the face of d planet.
This was retribution.
This was justice.
This a hanging debt that had to be paid.
God is a God of love.
He is a God of Justice also.
Devil's tremble at the thought of him.
He is not a toothless bull dog.
He is also not a vengeful maniac.

Before egypt was laid waste pharoah was given the opportunity to let isreal go but didnt. God erased his first borns.
Egypt and Amalek attracted their judgement.

The dashing of d first borns,as grotesque as it seems, was very right.
The babylonians , chaldeans etc were a very wicked group of people in cludg being very perverse.
When God's judgement came upon them, even the little ones had to b killed-it was outright annihilation - why? because if not, those babies wud grow up in the steps of their fathers. Cruel evil and ultra perverse.

God raised isreal as a standard for the world around them to emulate . The nations around isreal were heathen nations,they had no brakes on perversion or evil.
The sacrificed their children in fire to their idols.
The were deeply into astrology, star gazing, etc
incest was normal
sleeping with animals was okay
homosexuality was rife
murder,like killing a man to get his wife, killing a man out in d field (like cain did) was nothing.
Rape and orgies - my o my.
That was fun.

This wasnt how God created Life to be. He erased the first human race in the flood.
He executed judgement on others as their sinfulness grew.
E.g smoking sodom and Gomorrah.
Y isnt he judging Man today?
He has placed man's sins on Jesus and judged Jesus as a substitute for man.
But after d rapture,the period of grace will end. God will judge the world.

1. The amaleks aren't the only ones who were violently and unfairly treated by the Hebrews on orders from Yahweh...the midians in numbers(can't remember chapter) bethel, Jericho (Joshua) and many others
2. ur god hardened the heart of pharaoh, we would never know if pharaoh ever intended to keep the Hebrews because ur god controlled his mind and took decisions for him
3. Pls what wickedness did the Babylonians commit? You can't jst say they are wicked
You lay false accusations here...a direct breech on the 10 commandments
Hell awaits you

true2god:
These are great Islamic scientists and psychologists, insha alahu, Islamic scientists will rule the world.

Afterall it was Islamic scientists, using the koran, that discoverd the computer system, the railway system, the aviation tech, the automobile, the internet, etc.

Lmao deluded one

egift:
Let him say and defend it. We want to hear his testimony and personal experiences.

In religion, people have individual experiences - be it Hindu, Islam, Christianity, etc - Even the Native Doctor in my village did not believe his Oracle on hear-say - He has personal experiences that proves to him that the Oracle has power.

Christianity has no experience.

you already believe Christian dogmas are true, right from childhood because you were forced to it by your parents and church
Whtever u think you experienced is not objective anymore because all of u are subconsciously wired to that belief and can't be used as a basis to prove the authenticity of ur dogmas.

I await a man who doesn't believe Jesus to experience him...like Paul claimed
If Jesus could do it then there's nothing stopping him now

Dapo777:
One thing I have noticed is that Christians,I mean staunch Christians have formed deep emotional attachment with "Yahweh". It's just like When you love someone deeply, no matter What negative thing another person might tell you about your lover,you won't believe it nor want to accept it because of the emotional attachment you have with the person,you would only think the person is jealous.
The same thing applies to Christians,They are emotionally bonded to "Yahweh" so whatever negative thing you say or imply or that you are driving at, would be opposed logically or illogically,because "Yahweh" is So dear to their heart you shouldn't mess with "him/it/her" .

If you want to have a reasonable debate with Christians first make them understand that you do not hate "Yahweh", that you are not against Christianity, that you don't think their belief is silly,you just have to appeal to their emotions first and respect their beliefs.

How do I know?

I was once a staunch Christian too,and I have had arguments with atheists as a Christian, the reason why I never saw any sense in whatever logical explanations They gave was because I thought They were only against God,I thought They were never Christians and that They aren't good people, more frightening I thought They were sent from the devil,I even thought some of them aren't ordinary humans,Yes you heard me right. I thought They were demons in human forms,So automatically whatever They say would never make any sense to me because I would never support Satan and I would always support God,I was fighting for God,and I thought God was smiling in heaven saying "That's my son" ,who knows? He could be smiling......Lol......

Being in their position once, I understand perfectly why a plainly logical statement from an atheist would NEVER convince a staunch Christian. Even If a Christian attacks me for this thread,I totally understand why.

Trust me that is exactly What the British Christians did to make primitive yorubas renounce their gods for "Yahweh" and That's the same way you can make them............you know the rest..........

Lmao. True yarn o
Although I was never a staunch Christian, I once loved Jesus like I was gay
watching passion of Christ made me cry severely
Back then for you to tell me this Jesus was jst a dead and rotten Jew I would call u demon

Thanks to my ancestors that never left me, I regained my consciousness

dhammyg: I THINK IT IS FALSE

IF IT IS TRUE WHY IS THAT NONE OF THE RITUALISTS HAVE EVER MADE THE FORBES LIST

CHECK THE RICHEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD,NONE OF THEM DID RITUALSTO BECOME RICH IN LIFE WORK HARD AND BE SMARTFUCCK BLOOD MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how do u know none of them did rituals to become rich?
Is this not assumption?
Do u know the 100richest people personally?

striktlymi: The ten commandments, from which your question was derived is intended to guide the conduct of men not God. God is our creator and reserves the right to do whatever He wills with His creatures.

The law against killing is only restricted to murder. Not every killing done by soldiers is murder.

Such dumb statement.

ur God has no power of speech, can't show himself to make his will known
All that is known about ur god is what men say
So a man comes on rapes your sister and kills your father and says God told him to do so, he should be left unprosecuted on that ground?

Worship the God of your ancestors. As a Yoruba, you should get the child educated in the ways of our ancestors, that's the Omoluabi way
Olodumare bless your friend and the child

striktlymi: God is beyond the laws of Nature. Matter of factly, He is the architect of those laws.

So the Nigerian legislatives are beyond the laws of the nation because the legislative is the architect of those laws?

Timothy3113: . Guy Know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Precisely what you should know - The truth

Which is that Yahweh has no power outside Canaan
He couldn't even give his power the Whole land of Canaan as he promised

adeitoro: Because all you said expresses how nollywood replicates Igbo socio-cultural settings and attitudes to its fans.
I cannot conclude that Yorubas are fettish just because most scene I watched in their movies ascertain to such.

How does nollywood replicate Yorubas??
Fetishism is also part of the Igbo socio-cultural settings

Again...am nt talking abt movies but my experience with Igbo families

striktlymi: What is law in your usage?

Law of nature

urheme: Macof.... You are full of shit, enter your shrine make you kala ur mamu.

Face the thread or unfollow

So many science illiterate everywhere using their religion to judge the world

adeitoro: Dude you funnyooh
how can you judge a tribe by watching NOLLYWOOD MOVIES ?
grow up dude!

who said anything about movies??
Get some sense

Joshthefirst:

Sorry sir. This is ranting.


The second law states that the universe tends to increasing entropy. Every act of organization and advancement requires directed energy. Energy can only be directed by a director.

That is my stance.

So how does the organization of evolution take place?

energy needs a director? Explain

urheme:
In as much as i believe in science i still submit that evolution is a bogus theory, its proponents are either wrong or crazy.

One man's ingnorance can affect the whole world, we are still evolving if i can remember, and with this practical experience, you are still refering me books when i should be seeing snakes turn in to lions.

You lie!!!!

I think with the bold it's best you are left to your idiocy and ignorance
You know absolutely nothing about evolution yet you call it crazy and bogus...talk about irony

kinging247: sorry...pls is someone's name really.....sonOfLucifer....?...I must be dreaming

Lucifer...son of the morning star
Beautiful name and wonder personality the Bible character has