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Image123:This post is covered in holiness and scarves. LASPOTECH Christians. ![]() |
Image123:What was I expecting? When you guys are cornered you look for a cop-out. Like someone is going to read my posts, juxtapose them with yours and conclude that English is my problem. ![]() Funniest thing I have read in a while. |
petra1:Since 2015, she will always end with "It is all in my book". Someone raped her, she has evidence and will write a book instead of reporting him to authorities. LOL |
Image123:I understand your limitations. Let me show you Paul's words, then let us see what your take is on it. Acts 20: I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold or clothing. 34 You yourselves know that these hands of mine have supplied my own needs and the needs of my companions. 2 Corinthians 6: 8 by honor and dishonor, by evil report and good report; as deceivers, and yet true; Now Politicians accused of stealing money from their constituents just like Paul. Using your limited understanding, explain how this is a suffering of christ. Bearing in mind, It is the "media" of his day that is accusing him of such. Mat_23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. You are in the same breathe saying that you submit to TB as an MIT whatever, but you are not happy that i reminded you that he is your pastor's pastor. You are indeed confused. Maybe i should have put it more accurately, i think it is your pastor's senior pastor he was referred to if i recollect the episode.So you have learned how to write paragraphs and now you will learn how to remember minor details. The actual construction they used was to just call Prophet Joshua a Senior Prophet. Slow-thinking people who care about clout are the ones that inferred that if one is senior the other is junior. if you know any slow person making the same mistake now, you can correct them. Bible teaching is not humour. You can ask Jo to teach you more. He has good understanding when he is given the privilege of not trying to imitate your pastor.Of course the teachings in the bible are not meant for humour per se. But your understanding of certain concepts are. And trust me, I am having a good laugh watching you tie yourself into torturous knots. ![]() Isn't it interesting that you attempt to recognise my progenitors without even knowing me, while you cannot see your own self? You can keep all the gibberish you have spewed in the paragraph in your dustbin of a heart. i have no need of it, except of course you are again trying to falsely accuse me.I know your progenitors because I know your words. The very same ones they used against Jesus are the words we hear from some of you guys. I am not offended. A man can only give what he has. Let me now educate you though it might not be of immediate profit to the dead and the blind.You are not educating anybody brother Image123. You have addressed level one. Suffering for christ by the world. I delineated that earlier. You go preaching to someone and they spit at you. Family members sidelining you because you have taken a stand that they do not believe in especially for people from non-christian backgrounds etc. That is basic stuff. Paul still spoke about being persecuted by the "circumcision". Was that persecution for Christ or for Paul.? When former christians like Alexander went about spreading lies about Paul was it for Christ sake? When Paul had to tell us he was accused of taking people's monies was the false testimony for what? And who came up with the false testimonies? When Paul warned the church in Phillipi about "dogs" who was he addressing there? Or when you see "beware of dogs" does it not imply that the dogs are within your midst? This is why I said there is LASPOTECH level of reasoning and then there is MIT level. Lol, power indeed. You call that charade you face power? Well, it's not really your fault, you have not seen otherwise. Miracle peddling is not power. You need real power.LOL. This is funny. Cancerous growths are dematerialising in front of people. Droves of people are jumping out of wheel chairs that bound them for years. Blind eyes are opening at once. In US, UK, SA, Canada that are supposed to be developed countries where no one is easily deceived. If you have seen that type of power in your gathering please show us receipts. The people we usually get these testimonies from are people who come from your fold so I don't know why they saw real power there and then came to us. Answer on postcard. You seem to hear a lot. Spend less time in gossip, backbiting and ignorant thoughts.Haba, even your own hands left the keypad and slapped you in the face while you typed this. Backbiting? Gossiping? We don't have time for such, because we know subscribing to such will limit the free flow of that fresh anointing that I know you have never experienced in your entire life. i just smile as you are afraid to mention names. Keep living in the fear, so that fire does not kill you. When you are ready to speak straight, you will be fully engaged. Till then, revel in your atmosphere of half-truths and hearsays.Haqhaqhaq. Half truths and hearsay. Haqhaqhaq. I have told you before, there is no fear here. Perfect love for God and his people casts out such fears. It takes fear to think God who sent his best to die for me, will send me to hell for not wearing a scarf or wearing trousers or perming my hair. It takes fear to see a strong tool for evangelism and call it devil's box. It takes fear to see real power and call it magic when I don't walk in that same level. I forget the renowned MOG that said, first achieve more than double of the people you look down on before criticising them. Not when you are celebrating headache being healed after 40 days of fasting and prayer and then call demonic someone who barely looked at Cancer, before the cancer said "I get it, I am leaving now". |
Image123:Pastor's Pastor? I thought gossip Christians said he was hired to endorse him? You still have not figured out the art of using paragraphs. So forgive me if your ignorance of scripture is not off-putting. How will anyone suffer false accusation because of Jesus? Don't disgrace the little understanding I still believe you have so humour me. I won't wait. You won't know it. It will be one of the many things you don't know. Your Bible says some people who sound like your progenitors also said Jesus was a fraud. Anybody who does not forbid trousers and heals the sick must be fake. This is the deep teaching you want to bring to God's kingdom. It worked when people did not have TVs. Now they do. Sorry. As for your politician's fib and what not. Please tell us about the false reports Paul suffered too. The one he was accused of stealing people's monies. Tell me you have not heard Politicians being accused of such. So why is Paul's own because of Jesus? Was it Jesus the people in Paul's day were accusing of stealing or was it Paul himself? The people you love don't need to submit to Prophet Joshua or any other MOG that walks in a level of power that is not seen in your midst or circle. There is MIT and Laspotech for a reason. The Laspotech people should submit under Laspotech and be happy, whilst us the MIT folks are doing same. Don't worry about deception. The church is being purged and ignorance is leaving. I even heard some holiness preachers have changed some false doctrines and have promised to change more soon. We know the routine: we teach, we pray, then God knocks out the false doctrines and hypocrisy as we are all coming to a unity of our faith in Jesus Christ. The same things people swore were right and holy. When their master switched. They switched too and forgot they once looked down on people who did not share the same fears and false doctrines with them. Is our God not a good God? |
Image123:Like I said earlier, you know some things, but not enough things. Jesus had already said those who will live godly in him will suffer the same sufferings he suffered. What did Jesus suffer? Matthew 5:11 "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. And like I said before, this particular man says he heals in Jesus' name. So what was part of Bisola's false story? That the healings are staged and that when it is not fake it is magical powers. Jesus said ALL kinds of evil. What other evil? She has lied that he raped her. Why is this big news? To further discredit him as someone who follows Jesus so that people who would have gone to him, gotten their problems solved and believed in Jesus, would not go there anymore. Now who are the people carrying her false story the most? People who claim to be christians and some are unsuspecting because she is playing the last card I told you about: "from within his camp" card. Satan has no new strategies. If your own pastor does not get persecuted at this level. It is because he is not walking at this level that Prophet Joshua is, for Satan to need to bring his last card to attack him. So I fully understand the level you are speaking from. Mine is just higher. |
Image123:I know you know a lot. But you don't know enough. There are 3 levels of persecution for Christ's sake. 1. There is by the world. This encompasses other religions, family, old friends and everybody not in the body of Christ. They hate you because you love Jesus. 2. There is by fellow Christians. Those who believe in Jesus but are in many doctrines different. They persecute other Christians and come up with false charges to disparage anyone who does not believe in Jesus the way they do. 3. There is by within your own camp. People who may have worked with you..and because of a rebellious spirit will leave and come up with more trumped-up allegations to bring down another for the same Christ. Paul called them dogs. Now armed with this, go back and study the life of Paul and demarcate each of the categories of people who persecuted him for christ's sake. You can also find out what type of ministers get attacked by the last one. |
asuustrike1:She knows he will never reply which is why she is talking smack. If someone raped you you go to the Police not to bloggers. What will bloggers do? Criticize the man? And what else? Lol. Because she is reeling out people's names and lying. From only 1 out of 10 get healed. To they bring people to act. What else is new? You mean a man had been bringing people to act and sleep with women for 30+ years and God just left him to be doing it whereas "Good" people are dying anyhow? I can tell you for free that she is calling names and lying. The Westerhoff for e.g that she claimed was not sick..had been in that condition since 1994. So he was faking being on a wheel chair since 1994 so he could act healed in 2001? All the scam Prophet Joshua was doing he still did not have any money to buy car and needed someone else to buy the car for him? The man is this devilish and sleeps with people but when everyone insults him..calls him names..he never responds but instead speaks well of the people who rile him and abuse him? If Jesus was walking amongst us today. How will he be treated? What lies do you think will be said about him? |
asuustrike1:She has evidence and did not go to court? How? Who does that? How do you put evidence in a book? Please, don't be deceived. If you swallow a lie..don't be surprised to see demons start manifesting in your life. |
asuustrike1:You are wise. Which is why I said the person who is making the allegation and claims she can defend it in court should go to court. She should not write a book that she hopes to sell and be getting paid to conduct interviews. |
Image123:I did not come to "meet you". You asked a question that I sought to answer. And just like I said, it is for Christ's sake simply because these false attacks are because of the Christ he claims he is representing. Otherwise, the person who made the claim should go to court and the rest of the Christians who keep rehashing the story should shut up. |
asuustrike1:I never chimed in during the Bisola rubbish because her stories were inconsistent. I know from the body language and response of both parties there was sex involved. But nobody can say anything about rape. |
asuustrike1:No. Or else anyone can come up with any nonsense and there will keep being spurious allegations every day. Bisola said she can defend her claims in court right? Fine. She should go to court with the evidence and then the Prophet can be charged etc. The usual way. Any other thing is clout-chasing. |
Image123:A lot of people claim to be mediums and healers. Guru Marahajis and co. Do you see Pastors preach about them on stage and prophesy their end? No. But they do so willy nilly for prophet Joshua. Why? Because he heals people in a way they cannot and attributes the healing power to Jesus. So yes, Prophet Joshua is being attacked falsely for his belief in Jesus. If these same allegations were made about the other names I mentioned above. Only very few people will care. The hoopla now is because of the man involved. |
TruthinAction:I am not reading your posts well because you are simply rehashing the same rubbish over and over again. Bisola is a liar. Her stories have not been consistent so her testimony is inadmissible. You keep saying she said she is ready to go to court. She should. Someone raped her and other women, she should take him to court na. It is the person who alleges that has the duty to prove the allegations right. Forget all the rubbish about churches in Athens and what not. There is no synagogue church in Athens. And per adventure there was, how is he supposed to summon a pastor based on an allegation? Any mischievous person can claim anything and be a liar. There are many videos of people who went to the synagogue to confess about how one time or the other they told lies about the man and the church. There is nothing new. When the bible says in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses, it was referring to scripture. Or else the 2 or 3 witnesses that lied about Jesus were right. Think. Stop letting the devil play ludo on your ignorant mind. |
Omudia11:That you are not a Pastor worshipper is almost a ruse that is neither here nor there. You are here to defend Prophet Joshua's honor even though you don't live in his house to know what he does or does not do. While I believe in him and his calling, I would also show you where you are clearly erring and that is in the emotional outburst you have started making. You have gone from defending him to bandying words about that won't detract his detractors especially the ones on this thread. You are only opening the discourse to more mudslinging that is futile and childish. So desist from it. |
Bilyonaire:Yes I have no proof. I just manufactured what I said. Happy? |
TruthinAction:Nobody can pay me enough to be bold enough to do the foolish things you are currently doing. Jesus did not challenge any false religious leaders, he challenged false teachings. Have you seen me call you to order when you are challenging a teaching? No. Because that is allowed since it can only be done by the word. If you said "this and that are wrong because I feel they are" you will be wrong. It does not matter how long you have been in christ. Your ignorance shows you don't even know the word. Your greatest undoings are first posting lies as truths, endorsing a demon-possessed liar which Bisola is and not walking in love. I have told you before and you will remember me. You are walking in error and God is rebuking you. |
TruthinAction:You have not healed anyone as demons will never listen to someone like you who is ignorant and undisciplined in the things of God. Or how else can I believe you when your own posts here have you using words like "rogue and womanizer" for someone you have never met in your life. The funny thing is, someone who is even more acquainted with Prophet Joshua's ministry has refuted most of the things you said. Starting from the sale of water to the pass to the building. There are videos of Synagogue Church of Christ members talking about one scam or the other that Bisola was involved in where she fleeced people of money. That was why she was sacked by the church. But you stood there, and used the testimony of a liar to insult a Prophet of God because of bile and unchristlike hatred for another man, simply because he does things different than you. That is not a true Christian spirit. You are warned to desist from doing that. There is only one way this will end...with you..in trouble. |
Bilyonaire:I am not here to discuss or cast bad light to any anointed minister. So I am not going to bring any proofs. If you are seeking truth and are a member of his church. Then ask around and find that truth yourself. I only brought that up to show someone else that there is a lot of emotionalism in the body of Christ. |
Omudia11:You started off well, but the very same thing you are defending Prophet Joshua of, you have turned around to do. That shows your emotions are speaking now and not your desire to stand for truth. I will tell you the same thing I told the other person. That truth that you know, that extols love and your Christian virtues is the one you should stand for. Forget the ones you don't know and cannot justify from scripture or else, whilst seeking to correct someone who is obviously in error, you too will fall even faster than the person you are seeking to correct. |
kunlesmiles:Are you minding hypocrites? |
TruthinAction:If water is free why do companies like Eva and Dasani exist? Stop being a hypocrite. Produced bottle water is supposed to be sold. That I don't agree with using mediums does not mean I render anyone who does them fake. I simply pray they grow in the knowledge of the word and outgrow those mediums. 2. Most of the testimonies I hear the members give goes to the anointed water.That is attributable to their own ignorance. Ignorance does not = false. Or else you too are false, because you are ignorant. 3. A Church you must be given a pass to enter is a cult.This one now is your own conjecture. If they are hosting a seated program and people have reserved seats, you cannot go there and tell them everyone must enter. That is just stupid. The other day in SA, people died due to poor crowd control in a church. Because of stupid advice like the one you have here. 4. A man who said he was sent to save the world is an anti Christ. That is why he gave himself the name Joshua which is also translated Jesus.This is your most ignorant statement till date. In fact, you are not a son of Pastor Chris to come up with this junk. Where did Prophet Joshua claim he came to save the world? Has he ever claimed he died for people's sins? Did he ever say the power was his and not God's? So anyone who names themselves Joshua is arrogating Jesus' power to themselves? Do you think Jesus was the first person to be called Jesus? Such ignorance. 5. A man who is currently accused of multiple sex allegations is of questionable character. Why are they not accusing Adeboye or Oyedepo. Is his achievement bigger than these Pastors.Do they walk in the same level of power as him? lol. They don't. So they will never attract the same type of persecution. Nobody is dragging clout and money with them. Jeff Bezos has more money proving that having money does not equate God. But having power to heal the sick? Unstop deaf ears? Cause the lame to walk? Open blind eyes? Cast out devils? That is exclusively God's power. That is why Jesus said "woe unto you if all men speak well of you, for so will they treat the FALSE prophets". 6. A man who separates wives of his Pastors and deny them access to have sex is from the devil.This is both ridiculous and a demonic lie. You are quoting Paul Agomo who was established as a thief and liar trying to fleece the daughter of a rich man through marriage even when he was sent there to be her pastor. The same liar who claimed he bought wheel chairs and the same people he claimed he bought wheel chairs for have come to deny him. The other day, the prophet was in Korea with people having almost hundreds of wheel chairs. Who bought those ones? LOL He is completely evil. Don't be deceived by his gentle looks or stage managed miracles. The devil himself is not ugly.One day they will say he uses magic. Another day the miracles are staged managed. For more than 20 years now he has been stage managing miracles and all the countries he has been to nobody has been able to expose him. You are ignorant. Sorry to say. All the damage control videos released by synagogue does not hold water. Bisola has explained how those videos came about.Hahaha @ damage control. Anything the church says is damage control. But the one Bisola says is the truth. Who has more credibility? Who has more to lose? If he is guiltless, let him take her to court. He has to clear his name. Gullible followers like you will end up in the pit of hell for calling evil good. The Nigeria government is more useless for not investigating this man who is holding many teenagers hostage and use them as sex slaves. You will soon here more allegations.You are injuriously ignorant. It is the person who is making the allegation that has the burden of proof. She should bring strong evidence not rubbish hearsay by reeling out names even I know and can quote. Besides, she remembers some of those details simply because she has been saying variations of the same lies over and over again. I will ignore your statement about hell because you are ignorant and your posts here have shown it. |
TruthinAction:Actually you are the one is deluded to believe a lie. You have extolled people's testimony over the word and judged a matter before it's time. Scripture says you are not wise. If you find yourself in any heaven that does not have a man who encompasses such love, brother, forget it, you are in hell not heaven. Faith is the victory that overcomes the world and LOVE is greater than faith. Before I leave, let me correct your false teaching. 2 Thess 2:11 is referring to post-rapture. After the church would have left the way for the son of perdition, the antichrist to fully manifest himself. Prophet TB Joshua will already be in heaven by then. Imagine if you started your own church and taught from 2 Thess 2:11. You would already be teaching errors yet judging another man for his own scriptural errors. I laugh at you. |
TruthinAction:You don't need any research on him because you want to believe the story he is telling. When the same person was swearing on his life that Prophet TB Joshua was real, you said foul. Now that the very same mouth is saying what your itchy ears have given to, you say surely he must be saying the truth. That shows what you call truth is what you want believe is truth. Whereas truth is not relative. What makes me cringe is the boldness in your words:"T B Joshua is an anti Christ and a chronic womanizer." A man you have never met in your life. Tell me, who is backing you? Did you womanize with him? How could you tell? Bisola and Agomo - the same people who had sworn for years that he was real? I don't think you are walking in love or wisdom. Let me tell you something that is a fact. You will never achieve 1/10th of what Prophet Joshua has achieved in this life. Nobody from your lineage will. It is not a curse, I am quoting scripture. The very same power that works in him will work against you. And that is the power of the almighty God. Jesus that you claim you believe in had the jews bring witness(ES) the bible says to make up one false claim or the other. False claim by brethren is the classic tool of the devil. I don't know how foolish you think satan is that he will wake up one drunkard from God-knows-where to conjure up false tails. No, he always uses people within the same camp to make the allegations look real. Because of this, scriptures warn us on how to tell fake from real and the answer is LOVE. Do you think the Prophet does not have enough resources to mount a campaign in his own defence? Why do you think he keeps mum? It is because he knows that to maintain the fresh flow of the anointing that works in him he has to work in love. If he chooses to condescend and fight dirty he is declaring that God is not sufficient and he has to do it by himself. This power walking in him is to only glorify Jesus and liberate God's people and God only trusts this level of power on men who have died to self and live only to him. What do you think Paul meant when he said the love of christ constrains us? I already knew you were heading the wrong way which was why I sought to correct you in time. You are not new, since 2005 on Nairaland many had gone down this path and there are only 2 ways they end; They repent or they perish. There is no middle ground. If you truly believed your God, why are you fighting for him? Is it that he cannot see how false Prophet Joshua is? Or maybe..just maybe he is the one who actually sent Prophet Joshua and anybody who has made it his mission to fight the man, is unwittingly fighting against God? I know which one I believe. And as for your birds of the same feather line...hahaha. If God can use me just 1/15th of the way he has used the man, my life is accomplished. Now compare yourself to the people whose camp you have joined and see what your future is going to be. I can tell you for free, you won't go far. |
TruthinAction:You are young. Do your research on Paul Agomo. See if he is believable. |
OLAADEGBU:Someone said he had a vision. Was Olaadegbu there to witness it? No. He said he saw Jesus being nailed to a cross. Whilst God the father was seated somewhere else. Does this line up with scripture? No. Then he said Jesus was being nailed to a cross because people dress well in church and have musical and dramatic performances. What Bible verse addresses this? Zero. But Oladeegbu endorsed It and posted it here. I know your ignorance will be cleared up one day in the not too distant future. And by then, you will be forced to eat up every idle word you spoke. I will be here to remind you. |
petra1:He won't answer the question because he wants to be able to denounce the same person when a video of him talking rubbish about Pasor WF Kumuyi is released. That is the funny thing about hypocrites. |
Image123:The other party appealed. Condescended. Pleaded. The "offended" party still left. So the party that left is the one to come back as the other party even "spiritually" never left and is still seen wearing the same marriage band as a show of faith that nothing changed and things will normalize in the physical as they are in the realm of the spirit. |
Image123:The wife should walk in love and get back with him. She is the one who did the divorcing. He does not believe in it and never wanted it. He said so, online. |
TruthinAction:How can the number of years you stay under someone who was sleeping with women and faking miracles not matter? Does it not mean you were part of the charade? If you knew these evil things were being done for years on end and you stayed put why should I believe you now? If you were lying for him then you can be lying against him now? THINK! It is not a mark of honesty to subject yourself to hecklers and time-wasters. For how many years was Pastor Chris accused of being a private jet owner even when he had said repeatedly that he did not need one and will not buy one? Of course, every evil done will be exposed. We have seen them get exposed. Yet, how many years have gone by and the fraud TB Joshua according to you people is still untouched? Leave the part about what Jesus said on judgement day. Let us first heal the sick and then we can discuss who Jesus will say he never knew. I can bet with you, that the chances of finding someone Jesus does not know is far higher in the camp of those who have nothing to show than in the camp of people who actually perform the miracles. Even the Kenneth Hagin and Archbishop Idahosa that are much vaunted today were heavily criticized in their day. |
TruthinAction:You are not walking in love. To walk in love, you must hear every side of a story and never judge a thing before it's time. All the accusations against TB Joshua and yet not one soul can prove a thing. Just lies and more lies. This same woman you are defending said Pastor Chris brought CEC members to learn how to fake miracles from TB Joshua. Do also agree with that part? I want to know if I should stop engaging you. |
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