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Christianity Etc › Re: Brian Deacon Sends A Message To Christians "I Am Not Jesus Christ" by malvisguy212: 2:50pm On Nov 22, 2015
Christians already knows.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Was Sunday Chosen As A Sacred Day? by malvisguy212: 10:48am On Nov 22, 2015
KelvinKelt:
Pls which version of the bible is this? The sacred day was selected & sealed by God not man. All this change came about as a result of advancement in human knowledge. I suspect the white men culture.
are you a christian ? Did I not quote from the bible? The bible is the word of God, and not the word of men.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why were All The Prophets Born In The Middle East? by malvisguy212: 10:44am On Nov 22, 2015
tartar9:
how does this contradicts what I said?
the children of Israel were favoured by Allah;“O Children of Israel, remember My blessings which I bestowed upon you, and that I favoured you over all peoples.” 2:47

“Recall that Moses said to his people, "O my people, remember God's blessings upon you: He appointed prophets among you, made you kings, and granted you what He never granted any other people.” 5:20
okay now listen.
Surah 6:155-157
And this is a Book which We have
revealed as a blessing: so follow it
and be righteous, that ye may receive
mercy: Lest ye should say: "The Book
was sent down to two Peoples before
us, and for our part, we remained
unacquainted with all that they
learned by assiduous study :" Or lest
ye should say: "If the Book had only
been sent down to us, we should
have followed its guidance better
than they." Now then hath come unto
you a clear (sign) from your Lord,-
and a guide and a mercy: then who
could do more wrong than one who
rejecteth Allah's signs, and turneth
away therefrom? In good time shall
We requite those who turn away from
Our signs, with a dreadful penalty, for
their turning away.

The quran say ishmael(the Arab) was a prophet and was given a book . YET the quran say no Warner were sent before muhammed and that no Warner were given a book before muhammed

Surah 28:46
Nor wast thou at the side of (the
Mountain of) Tur when we called (to
Moses). Yet (art thou sent) as Mercy
from thy Lord, to give warning to a
people to whom NO WARNER HAD COME BEFORE THEE : in order that they
may receive admonition.

Surah 34:44
But We had NOT GIVEN THEM BOOKS
which they could study, nor sent
messengers to them before thee as
Warners.

And;

Surah 36:2-6
By the Wise Koran, thou art truly
among the Envoys on a straight path;
the sending down of the All-mighty,
the All-wise, that thou mayest warn a
people WHOSE FATHERS WERE NEVER
WARNED, so they are heedless.


Ishmael is explicitly said to have received the Book (S. 6:89), but S. 34:44 states that the Arabs had not received any book before Muhammad's time. We will leave it to the Muslims to try and make sense of these glaring contradictions.

Furthermore, what are we supposed to
think of Ishmael’s Book? Did he not pass
it on to his alleged descendants, which
Muslims claim were the Meccan Arabs? If he did, then how can the Quran claim
that the Arabs hadn’t received a book
prior to Muhammad’s time? If Ishmael
didn’t pass it on, then what happened to his Book? Even worse, would that not
imply that Ishmael was disobedient by
not delivering the message given to him?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Attack Only Christians? by malvisguy212: 9:20am On Nov 22, 2015
In other for atheists to ease up his fear , he had to determine if Christianity is false or not , that is why they attack christians soo much even dough islam has cause more chaos.

So to my atheists friends If you fear death, yet believe that God does not exist, then you are being irrational.Then again, maybe you uncertain whether death is the end of your existence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why were All The Prophets Born In The Middle East? by malvisguy212: 9:11am On Nov 22, 2015
true2god:
Are you saying that mohammed was a guy man and a fake prophet, just as Abu Jahl accused him in one of the numerous hadith narrations?
yes , muhammed is a fake prophet, he teaches what he himself did not obey.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Was Sunday Chosen As A Sacred Day? by malvisguy212: 9:07am On Nov 22, 2015
Romans 14. 5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Know The Day Of The Week Am Going To Die - Pastor Adeboye by malvisguy212: 9:03am On Nov 22, 2015
plaetton:
I tell you.

And to show how clever he is and how stuuuuupid his followers are, he avoids saying the date of his so-called death.

This scallywag of a pastor is a conman par excellence.

No wonder he is such an inspiration to millions of conmen all over Nigeria.
your problem is the date of his death? Ok
Christianity Etc › Re: Why were All The Prophets Born In The Middle East? by malvisguy212: 8:59am On Nov 22, 2015
tartar9:
hehe,he's obviously pained from the perfect response of Islam.
trash!! Each nation were sent A prophet, explained why the Jews, a single nation were sent soo many prophet.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why were All The Prophets Born In The Middle East? by malvisguy212: 8:54am On Nov 22, 2015
plaetton:
Stuuuuupid and ignorant.
explained please.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why were All The Prophets Born In The Middle East? by malvisguy212: 7:35am On Nov 22, 2015
tartar9:
"For We assuredly sent amongst
every People a messenger, (with the
Command), "Serve Allah, and eschew
Evil": of the People were some whom
Allah guided, and some on whom error
became inevitably (established). So travel
through the earth, and see what was the
end of those who denied (the Truth)"

Qur'an (16:36)
nonsense!! If Allah sent each nation a prophet,why is the Jews have soo many prophet? And the arab one fake prophet? And the quranic verse you quote contradicte this one:

Surah 29:27: And (as for Abraham),
We bestowed upon him Isaac and
(Isaac’s son) Jacob, and caused
prophethood and revelation to
continue among his offspring.

PROPHETHOOD is to come from the root of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob alone, and the are ALL JEWS. Arab and the rest of the world, no prophet are to come from their root.

The reason God chose the Jews is explained here https://www.nairaland.com/2076306/gods-chosen-people-jews-isnt
Christianity Etc › Re: I Know The Day Of The Week Am Going To Die - Pastor Adeboye by malvisguy212: 7:17am On Nov 22, 2015
wordcat:
And god refuse to tell him how to defeat boko haram
fairness and mercy, which do you prefer? If God should eradicate everyone who had break His law immediately they commits the offense, you and I will not be here discussing. Grace is an umarited favour from God which everyone including the enemy of God is entitled too. Boko haram time will come, the measure of their sins will come to end. Evil people exist to fulfilled the prophecy of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why The Bad News Should Comes First Before The Good News. by malvisguy212(op): 7:03am On Nov 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
Cc Seun ,Lalasticlala .
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Love, The Innocent Wouldn't Suffer. by malvisguy212(op): 6:59am On Nov 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
Cc. Seun, Obinoscopy, Lalasticlala
happy Sunday.
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith,belief,reason And Truth. by malvisguy212(op): 6:55am On Nov 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
Justification is the concept that provides
our belief with the assuredness of its
truth. People believe things for reasons,
which provide the warrant for their belief.Without these reasons,you do not have knowledge of what you believe. If a belief is JUSTIFIED, then we have the right to believe it. Atheists got it wrong, there view was; " since you cannot know something with 100% certainty, you cannot obtain the truth (or knowledge), you just have to believe ,God did it". The bible say otherwise, in Isaiah 1:18 God is calling human to "come and let us REASON together"

This brief journey into obtaining knowledge of what you belief was done in order to show the relationship between FAITH,BELIEF AND TRUTH . Christianity requires faith, faith requires
belief, and belief requires TRUTH.This is not just a mere belief but rather a trust that is characterized as knowledge.


Notice how Paul incorporates all three of these elements in his letter to the
Romans, “if you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). You cannot "confess with your mouth" without knowing the truth.

No matter how hard I try, I cannot make myself believe that there is a pink elephant in the room right now. I do not have direct free will over my beliefs, i.e. I can’t make myself believe something. I also cannot just tell people what to believe or exhort them to believe it. But if I don’t have free will over my beliefs, how can the Bible hold me responsible for them? The answer lies in the fact that I do have responsibility as to where I choose to focus my mind. I have free choice in body movements and where to place my attention (what you choose to think about). I have to choose to be preoccupied with something to change my belief or increase my certainty in that belief .Faith in the biblical sense means trust or confidence, confident in what we know to be TRUE. You do not have to be 100% certain in a belief for it to count as knowledge.

The bible say faith alone cannot save , why? because what you have faith in
must be TRUE, Biblical faith is accurate knowledge combined with ACTIVE TRUST Faith and knowledge are not opposed to each other. So Trusting faith alone does NOT save, but instead what is trusted MUST be true.

The faith Jesus had was not an absence of knowledge, but was based upon an intimate knowledge of his Father. We too can gain knowledge to make our faith richer.
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Practical Ways To Battle Sexual Temptation In A Christian's Life by malvisguy212: 6:50am On Nov 22, 2015
chuna1985:
The 10 commandments permits unmarried people to sleep wit each other. grin why should I ask d holy spirit to suppress God's nature in mehuh
thou shall not commit adultery.
Christianity Etc › Re: 12 Biblical Reason For Attending Church by malvisguy212: 6:48am On Nov 22, 2015
aob2882:
Matthew 19:16-17
16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[a] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good?[b] No one is good but One, that is, God.[c] But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
https://www.nairaland.com/2738621/why-call-me-good-analyze

In the Gospels, a rich, young man
approached Jesus and said to him, “Good
teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal
life?” Jesus gave the infamous reply,“Why
do you call me good? No one is good
except God alone.” This story is
found in Matthew, Mark, and Luke; critics
of Jesus’ claims to deity often use it as
ammunition in their case for a non-
divine Jesus. It seems, they argue, that
Jesus is denying deity here by refusing
the title ‘GOOD’ as it is something
reserved solely for God. I contend that
even a surface-level reading of this
narrative does not even remotely
support that conclusion.
I don’t see how Jesus’ clarification of
God’s nature is equivalent to him
denying deity. This is akin to someone
coming to me and calling me, “Dr. Paul.” I
respond by saying, “Why do you call me
doctor? No man can be a doctor, only he
who holds a doctorate.”
I can either mean one of two things:
1. No one can be a doctor unless he
holds a doctorate.
2. I do not hold a doctorate.
3. Therefore, I am not a doctor.
or…
1. No one can be a doctor unless he
holds a doctorate.
2. I hold a doctorate.
3. Therefore, I am a doctor.
By asking “Why do you call me doctor?”,
am I denying my title? Of course not. I
am simply clarifying what the title
means. I am neither validating nor
rejecting the title. In any case, I don’t
have a doctorate (yet!) but the point still
stands.
You can see how such reasoning is
completely absurd, and yet this is what
we see when critics use Jesus’ words in
this passage to try to show his non deity.
Having said all of that, let’s have another
look at what Jesus said in this passage.
He only said two statements:
1. Why do you call me good?
2. No one is good except God
The only piece of information that Jesus
gave is this: No one is good but God.
There are 2 ways to understand his
statement:
1. Only God is good.
2. I am not good.
3. Therefore, I am not God.
or
1. Only God is good.
2. I am good.
3. Therefore, I am God.
In this specific instance, from these
words alone, Jesus does make known to
us which of these he meant. It is both
ignorant and presumptive of anyone to
use this passage, alone, to argue for
Jesus’ non-deity. Why should the first
reading be the desirable one over the
second reading? Jesus’ statement that
only God is good does not, itself, tell us
whether he was affirming or denying
being God.
But if we keep reading, we find that
Jesus sheds some light on what he
meant. Jesus answers the man’s original
question about obtaining eternal life
with this“You know the commandments:
‘You shall not murder, you shall not
commit adultery, you shall not steal, you
shall not give false testimony, you shall
not defraud, honor your father and
mother.'”
The man responds :”Teacher, I have kept
all of these since I was a boy.”
Then Jesus finishes with: “One thing you
lack. Go, sell everything you have then
come, follow me.”
To summarize: In response to the man’s
question, “What must I do to gain eternal
life?”, Jesus responds by telling him to
follow the commandments. But which
commandments does Jesus list?
Notice that Jesus only lists the
commandments that dealt with civil
affairs. The Ten Commandments of
Moses were divided into 2 parts: Laws on
dealing with God and Laws on dealing
with others. Respectively, these were the
moral and civil laws. Jesus names the
civil law for the young man and the
young man responds like any good Jew
would, These I have kept since I was
young.” The man was doing great on
keeping the civil law, but not so much
with the moral law. Instead of then
quoting the first four commandments to
the young man,the commandments that
dealt with man’s relationship with God,
Jesus told the young man, “Sell your
possessions and follow me.” In other
words, “Your god is your money. Get rid
of that and follow me.” Jesus is equating
obeying the moral law with following
himself. The manner in which men can
obtain eternal life is by getting rid of the
false gods in their lives and following
Jesus , replacing them with him!
This claim is monumental! And it gives us
an answer to our initial dilemma. Did
Jesus deny or affirm his deity in asking,
“Why do you call me good?” I think the
answer is clear in light of the rest of that
conversation with the young man. Jesus
equated following himself with keeping
the moral law and obeying the
commandments that governed man’s
relationship with God. Thus, in bringing
up this passage as ammunition for a
non-divine Jesus, the critic shoots
himself in the foot by bringing to the
table a text in which Jesus clearly claims
deity.
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Practical Ways To Battle Sexual Temptation In A Christian's Life by malvisguy212: 12:27am On Nov 22, 2015
chuna1985:
Each time u battle nature, u will lose.
you are a natural man, you do not want the spirit to convicte you of your sin. The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are
spiritually discerned. The spiritual man judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. "For who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
Christianity Etc › Re: 12 Biblical Reason For Attending Church by malvisguy212: 12:16am On Nov 22, 2015
aob2882:
Please how does Jesus Christ (pbuh) worship ?
The Trinity states that: (1) there is only one God by nature (2) there are three Persons (Father, Son,
Holy Spirit) who all share the divine nature (3) and that all three Persons are distinct. Jesus, the Son, in His incarnation took upon Himself a human nature and was 100% God and 100% man.

When He worshiped God was he worshipping Himself? When He was praying to God was He praying to Himself? No, in His human nature he was worshipping the Father who was God, because that is the proper duty of man.

There are things God the father know that Jesus in his Human nature do not know, for example if you notice a demon possessed man being healed, prior to his healing, he act strange, he speak with uncontrolled voice, and he say words which in his real sense would not say, but the time he get healed, when you told him what he say, he will deny saying such things and acting in such a way, why? Because his demonic nature and human nature are DISTINCT from each other ( just as God and Jesus was ).

so Jesus is a man who was possessed by God, here are proof:

Jesus claimed to have many of the
attributes that God alone possesses.
Jesus claimed to have sent the prophets:
Matthew 23:34
"Therefore, behold, I am sending you
prophets and wise men and scribes;
some of them you will kill and crucify,
and some of them you will scourge in
your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,

However, the Old Testament indicates
that God sent the prophets. Therefore,
Jesus was claiming the authority that was previously reserved only for God.

Jesus claimed that His origins are from
heaven, whereas men are from the
world:
John 3:13
"And no one has ascended into heaven,
but He who descended from heaven,
even the Son of Man.

Jesus also claimed to have existed
"before the world began":
John 17:5
"And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence with the glory I had with you
before the world began."

This statement is an obvious claim to
deity. Not only did Jesus claim to exist
before the creation of the universe, but
He claimed to share the glory of God!

Jesus also claimed that He had "all
authority... in heaven and on earth" and
that everything of God was His.

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came up and spoke to them,
saying, "All authority has been given to
Me in heaven and on earth."

Jesus accepted the title of God. Not only did Jesus claim the attributes of God,but He even accepted the title GOD, Thomas the ever-skeptical disciple, was unconvinced that Jesus had risen from the dead and wanted to see direct proof. However, when the Lord Jesus appeared to him, his only reaction was "My Lord and my God!"

John 20:28-29
Thomas answered and said to Him, "MY LORD AND MY GOD !" Jesus said to him,
"Because you have seen Me, have you
believed? Blessed are they who did not
see, and yet believed."

What was Jesus' reaction to the title of
God? Did Jesus rebuke him for calling
Him "God"? No! In fact, Jesus praised
Thomas for his belief. And the belief that Thomas exhibited was that Jesus was LORD AND GOD . If Jesus were not God, accepting such a statement for truth would be a grievous sin. Either Jesus is God or He would have to be a sinner!
Christianity Etc › Re: I Know The Day Of The Week Am Going To Die - Pastor Adeboye by malvisguy212: 9:56pm On Nov 21, 2015
^^^ what kind of prophet utter curses on his enemy on his dead bed ?

The Qur’an records the certainty of death of Muhammad and his followers:

Surah 39:30: “Lo! thou wilt die, and
lo! they will die.” (Pickthall)

Contrast the above statement with the
assurance that Jesus Christ gave to his
true followers:

John 14:19: “Because I live, you will
live also.”

The difference between Jesus and
Muhammad is as the difference between life and death. And this gives us a compelling reason to reject Islam.

John 17:3: “This means everlasting
life, their taking in knowledge of you,
the only true God, and of the one
whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”
Christianity Etc › Re: I Know The Day Of The Week Am Going To Die - Pastor Adeboye by malvisguy212: 9:51pm On Nov 21, 2015
tartar9:
berra be careful pastorpreneur,you don't want to end with a lie.
but muhammad end up with lie, he accused christians and Jews of something they did not commits:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin
‘Abbas: When the last moment of
the life of Allah’s Apostle came he
started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his
face and when he felt hot and short
of breath he took it off his face and
said , “MAY ALLAH CURSE THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS FOR THE BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .”



recall Muhammad’s reason for cursing
the Jews and the Christians. He said, “FOR THE BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” We will now address this accusation of Muhammad. We will look at the facts recorded in the Bible.

As stated in Deuteronomy 34:5-6, God wisely buried Moses in an undisclosed place. And in the case of Jesus, Jehovah completely removed his body. He did this to prevent, in both instances, the very thing that Muhammad was accusing the Jews and Christians of committing. Both the concealment of Moses’ body and the removal of Jesus’ body prevented the worshippers of Jehovah from being enticed to make pilgrimages or pay homage to such sites. It protected them from creature-worship. In contrast, what did the Muslims do with Muhammad’s tomb after his death? Muslims built a mosque on his tomb. His grave became a place for Muslim pilgrims to visit in Medina annually. The Prophet’s tomb at Medina is, after Mecca, the site most venerated by Muslims. It is visited with reverence in the hearts of the faithful.

Ironically, these Muslims fell into the
very class of people, upon whom
Muhammad beseeched Allah’s CURSE
Unlike Jehovah, Allah did not have the
wisdom or the insight to prevent the
causes that could lead to creature worship among his worshippers.

Muhammed lied when he accused christians and Jews of worshipping in dead prophet tomb. None of your muslims brothers were able to address this questions.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Reconcile With My Parents? by malvisguy212: 5:03pm On Nov 21, 2015
Snipes009:
Calling God, Father is blasphemous to God. Since Father means Daddy, people that calls their pastors "daddy" are calling them God toohuh Smh for you oooo
are you a muslims ? you still have a lot to learn concerning Christianity.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Reconcile With My Parents? by malvisguy212: 4:58pm On Nov 21, 2015
gbolarious1:
thanz for dat. Some of us are just following what we don't understand, all inda name of bible beiliving. Pls let's b right in our decision.
what are you saying? Do you think I interpret what I don't understand? I type the word "alright" because I don't want to indulge in unfruitful arguments.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Reconcile With My Parents? by malvisguy212: 3:15pm On Nov 21, 2015
chuna1985:
U have no evidence about all u wrote n u have no evidence about the scriptures u quoted, they could all come from a Hebrew story book.

Now ask urself, what if ur d ones worshipping d devil n the Hindus worship the true Godhuh
alright.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Reconcile With My Parents? by malvisguy212: 3:06pm On Nov 21, 2015
chuna1985:
grin

Muslims also say dis same thing
calling allah father is blasphemous to muslims.
Christianity Etc › Re: Differences Between Islamic War And Biblical War by malvisguy212: 9:37am On Nov 21, 2015
Rilwayne001:


I'm Not supporting terrorism, but since you idiots refused to listen to our explanation, we will continue to show you the shiit in your eyes.

Have you ever come across this verse of the bible? What's your take on it?

"'Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall not spare and you shall show no pity; [size=15] slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women. [/size] ..'" -Ezekiel 9:5 shocked
ezekiel 9:5 was a judgment against the idolatry

Ezekiel 9New International Version (NIV)
Judgment on the Idolaters
9 Then I heard him call out in a loud
voice, “Bring near those who are
appointed to execute judgment on the
city, each with a weapon in his hand.” 2
And I saw six men coming from the
direction of the upper gate, which faces
north, each with a deadly weapon in his
hand. With them was a man clothed in
linen who had a writing kit at his side.
They came in and stood beside the
bronze altar.
3 Now the glory of the God of Israel went
up from above the cherubim, where it
had been, and moved to the threshold of
the temple. Then the Lord called to the
man clothed in linen who had the writing
kit at his side 4 and said to him, “Go
throughout the city of Jerusalem and put
a mark on the foreheads of those who
grieve and lament over all the detestable
things that are done in it.”
5 As I listened, he said to the others,
“Follow him through the city and kill,
without showing pity or compassion. 6
Slaughter the old men, the young men
and women, the mothers and children,
but do not touch anyone who has the
mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” So they
began with the old men who were in
front of the temple.
7 Then he said to them, “Defile the
temple and fill the courts with the slain.
Go!” So they went out and began killing
throughout the city. 8 While they were
killing and I was left alone, I fell
facedown, crying out, “Alas, Sovereign
Lord! Are you going to destroy the entire
remnant of Israel in this outpouring of
your wrath on Jerusalem?”
9 He answered me, “The sin of the
people of Israel and Judah is exceedingly
great; the land is full of bloodshed and
the city is full of injustice. They say, ‘The
Lord has forsaken the land; the Lord
does not see.’ 10 So I will not look on
them with pity or spare them, but I will
bring down on their own heads what
they have done.”
11 Then the man in linen with the writing
kit at his side brought back word, saying,
“I have done as you commanded.”
New International Version (NIV)
Christianity Etc › Re: A Man Sentenced To Death For Renouncing Islam In Saudi Arabia by malvisguy212: 8:44am On Nov 21, 2015
domopps:
Op are u saying no xtians in Saudi Arabia and the entire middle east?





Cheeeeerz
your question is not making sense.

surah 4:89 says :
“They but wish that ye should reject
Faith, as they do, and thus be on the
same footing (as they). But take not
friends from their ranks until they
flee in the way of Allah (from what is
forbidden). But if they turn
renegades, seize them and slay them
wherever ye find them; and (in any
case) take no friends or helpers from
their ranks.

Thus those who have fled from what is
forbidden, i.e., embraced Islam, should
be killed if they “turn renegades.”
Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Reconcile With My Parents? by malvisguy212: 9:41pm On Nov 20, 2015
chuna1985:
Who told u being a Christian is the way to please God?
Christianity is the only way to have a relationship with God, If you spend much time around a
Christian, sooner or later you will hear
the phrase " having a personal relationship with God" . The believers knows this, Christianity is the only religion that state the phrase. many religions even forbid it followers to call their god father let alone having a relationship with their god, islam see this as blasphemy .

The way to be right with God in every
religion is by earning your way. It is
based on works, NOT grace. Christianity is different from every religion in this
aspect: all other religions (including
Mormonism, Islam, Hinduism, and
Buddhism) state that you must earn the
right to be reconciled with God. It is by
what you do in this life (good deeds or
bad deeds)that determines your eternal destiny.

Matthew 6:9-13
9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.12 And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors.13 And do not lead us into temptation,But deliver us from the evil one.

The first two words of this model prayer
tell us a great deal about relationships.
First, notice that Jesus starts out with the word OUR, not the word MY. The reason is that God is not only the father of the person praying, but of others also. In this context, the our includes the “horizontal” relationship with other people who are children of God. Today, since we can “Get right with God through Jesus,” the word our includes all Christians.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing How Islam Really F**** Up Peoples Way Of Thinking by malvisguy212: 4:33pm On Nov 20, 2015
urahara:
Deutronomy 31
31 The Lord said to Moses,

2 Avenge the Israelites on the Midianites; afterward you shall be gathered to your [departed] people.

3 And Moses said to the people, Arm men from among you for the war, that they may go against Midian and execute the Lord’s vengeance on Midian [for seducing Israel].

4 From each of the tribes of Israel you shall send 1,000 to the war.

5 So there were provided out of the thousands of Israel 1,000 from each tribe, 12,000 armed for war.

6 And Moses sent them to the war, 1,000 from each tribe, together with Phinehas son of Eleazar, the priest, with the [sacred] vessels of the sanctuary and the trumpets to blow the alarm in his hand.

7 They fought with Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and slew every male,

8 Including the five kings of Midian: Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba; also Balaam son of Beor they slew with the sword.

9 And the Israelites took captive the women of Midian and their little ones, and all their cattle, their flocks, and their goods as booty.

10 They burned all the cities in which they dwelt, and all their encampments.

11 And they took all the spoil and all the prey, both of man and of beast.

12 Then they brought the captives, the prey, and the spoil to Moses and Eleazar the priest and to the congregation of the Israelites at the camp on the plains of Moab by Jordan at Jericho.

13 Moses and Eleazar the priest and all the princes or leaders of the congregation went to meet them outside the camp.

14 But Moses was angry with the officers of the army, the commanders of thousands and of hundreds, who served in the war.

15 And Moses said to them, Have you let all the women live?

16 Behold, these caused the Israelites by the counsel of Balaam to trespass and act treacherously against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and so a [smiting] plague came among the congregation of the Lord.

17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who is not a virgin.

18 But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves.

19 Encamp outside the camp seven days; whoever has killed any person and whoever has touched any slain, purify yourselves and your captives on the third day and on the seventh day.

You Christians are just hypocrites
I say this in the other thread:

the old testament were part of the
scripture BUT This does not mean,
however,
that everything in the Scriptures
applies to us as law
Through Moses,God gave a law to Israel.
We can learn much from that law. But it
was never given to the church of Christ
as a law.
The purpose of the old testament is for
christians to learn of God plans:
Romans 15:4
“For whatever things were written
BEFORE were written for our learning,
that we through the patience and
comfort of the Scriptures might have
HOPE”
Although the Old and New Testaments
together form the Scriptures, the New
Covenant SUPERSEDE and REPLACE the
Old Covenant.
Here what God say in Jeremiah:
Jeremiah 31:31-34
31
“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT
WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISREAL
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will NOT BE LIKE THE COVENANT I
MADE WITH THEIR ANCESTORS when I
took them by the hand to lead them out
of Egypt, because they broke my
covenant, though I was a husband to[ a]
them,[b]” declares the Lord.
33“This is the covenant I will make with
the people of Israel after that time,”
declares the Lord. “I will put my law in
their minds and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God, and they will be my
people.34No longer will they teach their
neighbor,or say to one another, ‘Know
the Lord,’because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.“For I will forgive their
wickedness and will remember their sins
no more.”
This new covenant was fullfiled in the
new testament.
When I say " the New Covenant
SUPERSEDE the old " this is what I mean.
The ten commandments no longer apply
as law because in the doctrine of Christ
they are completely superseded. In the
Sermon on the Mount Jesus
demands much more of us than the ten
commandments. He not only forbids
murder and adultery, but also the
CAUSE, hate and lust. We are to love God
with ALL OUR MIND, if you love God you
will keep His commandments, so the key
word is LOVE. No wonder Jesus give the
TWO great commandments involving love
God and your fellow human. So, love for
God
and fellowman, not just because there is
a command: “You shall not kill”.
Hope you understand now?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think Atheists On NL Should Be Concerned About Richard Dawking's Retweet by malvisguy212: 12:39pm On Nov 20, 2015
plaetton:
There you again go again with your schizophrenia.

On previous post , god was overbrimming with intense love for humanity.
Now, You say " people that god wiped out ".

You don't see the schizophrenia ? huh

Do You know why your god is schizophrenic?

Because you created him in your schizophrenic mind.
God's Love required justice, just because God is love doesent mean He will pretend everything is okay when men sin.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think Atheists On NL Should Be Concerned About Richard Dawking's Retweet by malvisguy212: 10:10am On Nov 20, 2015
plaetton:
lol.
This is beyond going full re.tard.

I recognize cognitive dissonance when I see it.

First, comprehension comprehension,
.. and dishonesty.

This is how 1+1+1 = 1 ?

When did extraordinary things translate to juju and magic ?.
See how limited your thinking is ? undecided

I noticed that you made no attempts whatsoever to address the issue presented. I guess it is because they are true.




Meaningless babbles



Full ret.ard overdrive.

Gosh, I have every reason to hate the person I think Santa Clause is,,,... and other meaningless babbles.



Classic !! cheesy

lol. Poor ol god.
The same god who is said to be unknowable, lives in a spiri spiri world outside of our universe ( according to kingebukasblog) is now the most misunderstood and hated person in the world ? shocked
huh
What a demented brain.


Lol.
Here we go again with schizophrenia.

Same god who commanded numerous evil and genocides against numerous tribes of human beings, is now the same god that is aware of human suffering and loves same humans with intensity ? huh

You, my friend, are too fxxxed up in the head.
1 you believe in something extraordinary, what kind of thing is that? When you say extraordinary, does it mean something immaterial?
2.you call it meaningless babbles but you are the one who first raised the issue.

You are not different from the people who God wiped out ,why are you still alive? It is by his grace you are here, until you fill up the measure of your sin.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think Atheists On NL Should Be Concerned About Richard Dawking's Retweet by malvisguy212: 9:59am On Nov 20, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Nice one

Plaetton is filled with so much misconceptions and he needs us to show him
from what I observe, pleatton atheism is different from many atheists here on nairaland, he hate the idea of God existence. He does not want to play by anybody rules. Kind of man who hate being shown his mistake, superior than other.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think Atheists On NL Should Be Concerned About Richard Dawking's Retweet by malvisguy212: 9:35am On Nov 20, 2015
plaetton:
Thank you jare.

I have both Christian and Muslim friends.

For many many years, none of my Muslim friends have ever preached to me, asked me to come their mosque, or tried to convert me.
Rather , on few occasions when I asked about one or two aspects of their religion, they would take their time and explain to me.
I noticed that they always started with the words " as a Muslim, I believe so and so".
And I respect that about them.

My Christian friends, on the hand, do not know the difference between opinions, beliefs and facts.

They are bellicose, ignorant, more superstitious than my ancestors.

They are hypocrites, moral schizophrenics who know very little about their religion.
They do not read their bibles except the part that serve their selfish interests.

I think it's a fraud religion that caters to the Basest of human characters.


Islam is a religion.
Christianity is packaged stupidity.

And to show all how stuuuupid religion is, malvisguy212 and kingebukasblog would be quick to justify numerous acts if terror and genocide committed against other people and supposedly sanctioned and commanded by Yahweh in the bible.

But these same half-thinking mo.rons want us to join them to condemn Islam because a few Muslim madmen also supposedly heeded the call of their own invisible skydaddy to commit acts of terror against unbelievers.

What hypocrisy!
bitterness and anger ,this thread may have upset you soo much that you cannot hide your anger. Were you not the one who admits, juju and magic are real and you believe in it, on the other thread ?
Your quote;
"It may shock you that I do believe that
extraordinary things happen. I have seen and experienced a few"
https://www.nairaland.com/2738079/atheists-traditionalists-come/1

You are not force to listen to christians preaching, Jesus say "shake the dust from your feet" you are not force to listen. You called Christianity hypocrite, But Jesus denounced religious hypocrites. So if hypocrisy turns your stomach, you might be Christ-like yourself. People can deeply hurt us, and
if they happen to call themselves Christians it could turn us off Jesus for life.

Real christians think of themselves as having a low view of their own morality because of the past sin they committed prior to their calling.

You might have every reason to hate the person you think God to be, but is that
'God' real? Your anger feels justified. We can understand infinite wisdom, however, no more than a babe understands its mother. What if your
resentment towards God is like that of a desperately sick child who bites his doctor,imagining the caring doctor to be the cause of his torment, rather than his only hope of recovery? What a tragedy if you let the simple fact that you don't have infinite IQ rob you of your greatest source of comfort. No one has been so spurned, so misunderstood, so much hated without cause as God is every
moment of every day by millions of people, each of whom he loves more than we could conceive. No one is
touched as deeply by humanity's anguish as its Creator. No one is as aware of suffering humanity as God is,
and no one loves with the intensity that God loves. And your pain intensifies his pain.

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