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Christians already knows. |
KelvinKelt:are you a christian ? Did I not quote from the bible? The bible is the word of God, and not the word of men. |
tartar9:okay now listen. Surah 6:155-157 And this is a Book which We have revealed as a blessing: so follow it and be righteous, that ye may receive mercy: Lest ye should say: "The Book was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by assiduous study :" Or lest ye should say: "If the Book had only been sent down to us, we should have followed its guidance better than they." Now then hath come unto you a clear (sign) from your Lord,- and a guide and a mercy: then who could do more wrong than one who rejecteth Allah's signs, and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away. The quran say ishmael(the Arab) was a prophet and was given a book . YET the quran say no Warner were sent before muhammed and that no Warner were given a book before muhammed Surah 28:46 Nor wast thou at the side of (the Mountain of) Tur when we called (to Moses). Yet (art thou sent) as Mercy from thy Lord, to give warning to a people to whom NO WARNER HAD COME BEFORE THEE : in order that they may receive admonition. Surah 34:44 But We had NOT GIVEN THEM BOOKS which they could study, nor sent messengers to them before thee as Warners. And; Surah 36:2-6 By the Wise Koran, thou art truly among the Envoys on a straight path; the sending down of the All-mighty, the All-wise, that thou mayest warn a people WHOSE FATHERS WERE NEVER WARNED, so they are heedless. Ishmael is explicitly said to have received the Book (S. 6:89), but S. 34:44 states that the Arabs had not received any book before Muhammad's time. We will leave it to the Muslims to try and make sense of these glaring contradictions. Furthermore, what are we supposed to think of Ishmael’s Book? Did he not pass it on to his alleged descendants, which Muslims claim were the Meccan Arabs? If he did, then how can the Quran claim that the Arabs hadn’t received a book prior to Muhammad’s time? If Ishmael didn’t pass it on, then what happened to his Book? Even worse, would that not imply that Ishmael was disobedient by not delivering the message given to him? |
In other for atheists to ease up his fear , he had to determine if Christianity is false or not , that is why they attack christians soo much even dough islam has cause more chaos. So to my atheists friends If you fear death, yet believe that God does not exist, then you are being irrational.Then again, maybe you uncertain whether death is the end of your existence. |
true2god:yes , muhammed is a fake prophet, he teaches what he himself did not obey. |
Romans 14.
5 One person considers one day more
sacred than
another; another considers every day
alike. Each of
them should be fully convinced in their
own mind.6
Whoever regards one day as special does
so to the
Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the
Lord, for
they give thanks to God; and whoever
abstains does
so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. |
plaetton:your problem is the date of his death? Ok |
tartar9:trash!! Each nation were sent A prophet, explained why the Jews, a single nation were sent soo many prophet. |
plaetton:explained please. |
tartar9:nonsense!! If Allah sent each nation a prophet,why is the Jews have soo many prophet? And the arab one fake prophet? And the quranic verse you quote contradicte this one: Surah 29:27: And (as for Abraham), We bestowed upon him Isaac and (Isaac’s son) Jacob, and caused prophethood and revelation to continue among his offspring. PROPHETHOOD is to come from the root of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob alone, and the are ALL JEWS. Arab and the rest of the world, no prophet are to come from their root. The reason God chose the Jews is explained here https://www.nairaland.com/2076306/gods-chosen-people-jews-isnt |
wordcat:fairness and mercy, which do you prefer? If God should eradicate everyone who had break His law immediately they commits the offense, you and I will not be here discussing. Grace is an umarited favour from God which everyone including the enemy of God is entitled too. Boko haram time will come, the measure of their sins will come to end. Evil people exist to fulfilled the prophecy of God. |
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chuna1985:thou shall not commit adultery. |
aob2882:https://www.nairaland.com/2738621/why-call-me-good-analyze In the Gospels, a rich, young man approached Jesus and said to him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” Jesus gave the infamous reply,“Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.” This story is found in Matthew, Mark, and Luke; critics of Jesus’ claims to deity often use it as ammunition in their case for a non- divine Jesus. It seems, they argue, that Jesus is denying deity here by refusing the title ‘GOOD’ as it is something reserved solely for God. I contend that even a surface-level reading of this narrative does not even remotely support that conclusion. I don’t see how Jesus’ clarification of God’s nature is equivalent to him denying deity. This is akin to someone coming to me and calling me, “Dr. Paul.” I respond by saying, “Why do you call me doctor? No man can be a doctor, only he who holds a doctorate.” I can either mean one of two things: 1. No one can be a doctor unless he holds a doctorate. 2. I do not hold a doctorate. 3. Therefore, I am not a doctor. or… 1. No one can be a doctor unless he holds a doctorate. 2. I hold a doctorate. 3. Therefore, I am a doctor. By asking “Why do you call me doctor?”, am I denying my title? Of course not. I am simply clarifying what the title means. I am neither validating nor rejecting the title. In any case, I don’t have a doctorate (yet!) but the point still stands. You can see how such reasoning is completely absurd, and yet this is what we see when critics use Jesus’ words in this passage to try to show his non deity. Having said all of that, let’s have another look at what Jesus said in this passage. He only said two statements: 1. Why do you call me good? 2. No one is good except God The only piece of information that Jesus gave is this: No one is good but God. There are 2 ways to understand his statement: 1. Only God is good. 2. I am not good. 3. Therefore, I am not God. or 1. Only God is good. 2. I am good. 3. Therefore, I am God. In this specific instance, from these words alone, Jesus does make known to us which of these he meant. It is both ignorant and presumptive of anyone to use this passage, alone, to argue for Jesus’ non-deity. Why should the first reading be the desirable one over the second reading? Jesus’ statement that only God is good does not, itself, tell us whether he was affirming or denying being God. But if we keep reading, we find that Jesus sheds some light on what he meant. Jesus answers the man’s original question about obtaining eternal life with this“You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.'” The man responds :”Teacher, I have kept all of these since I was a boy.” Then Jesus finishes with: “One thing you lack. Go, sell everything you have then come, follow me.” To summarize: In response to the man’s question, “What must I do to gain eternal life?”, Jesus responds by telling him to follow the commandments. But which commandments does Jesus list? Notice that Jesus only lists the commandments that dealt with civil affairs. The Ten Commandments of Moses were divided into 2 parts: Laws on dealing with God and Laws on dealing with others. Respectively, these were the moral and civil laws. Jesus names the civil law for the young man and the young man responds like any good Jew would, These I have kept since I was young.” The man was doing great on keeping the civil law, but not so much with the moral law. Instead of then quoting the first four commandments to the young man,the commandments that dealt with man’s relationship with God, Jesus told the young man, “Sell your possessions and follow me.” In other words, “Your god is your money. Get rid of that and follow me.” Jesus is equating obeying the moral law with following himself. The manner in which men can obtain eternal life is by getting rid of the false gods in their lives and following Jesus , replacing them with him! This claim is monumental! And it gives us an answer to our initial dilemma. Did Jesus deny or affirm his deity in asking, “Why do you call me good?” I think the answer is clear in light of the rest of that conversation with the young man. Jesus equated following himself with keeping the moral law and obeying the commandments that governed man’s relationship with God. Thus, in bringing up this passage as ammunition for a non-divine Jesus, the critic shoots himself in the foot by bringing to the table a text in which Jesus clearly claims deity. |
chuna1985:you are a natural man, you do not want the spirit to convicte you of your sin. The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. "For who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ. |
aob2882:The Trinity states that: (1) there is only one God by nature (2) there are three Persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) who all share the divine nature (3) and that all three Persons are distinct. Jesus, the Son, in His incarnation took upon Himself a human nature and was 100% God and 100% man. When He worshiped God was he worshipping Himself? When He was praying to God was He praying to Himself? No, in His human nature he was worshipping the Father who was God, because that is the proper duty of man. There are things God the father know that Jesus in his Human nature do not know, for example if you notice a demon possessed man being healed, prior to his healing, he act strange, he speak with uncontrolled voice, and he say words which in his real sense would not say, but the time he get healed, when you told him what he say, he will deny saying such things and acting in such a way, why? Because his demonic nature and human nature are DISTINCT from each other ( just as God and Jesus was ). so Jesus is a man who was possessed by God, here are proof: Jesus claimed to have many of the attributes that God alone possesses. Jesus claimed to have sent the prophets: Matthew 23:34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, However, the Old Testament indicates that God sent the prophets. Therefore, Jesus was claiming the authority that was previously reserved only for God. Jesus claimed that His origins are from heaven, whereas men are from the world: John 3:13 "And no one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven, even the Son of Man. Jesus also claimed to have existed "before the world began": John 17:5 "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began." This statement is an obvious claim to deity. Not only did Jesus claim to exist before the creation of the universe, but He claimed to share the glory of God! Jesus also claimed that He had "all authority... in heaven and on earth" and that everything of God was His. Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth." Jesus accepted the title of God. Not only did Jesus claim the attributes of God,but He even accepted the title GOD, Thomas the ever-skeptical disciple, was unconvinced that Jesus had risen from the dead and wanted to see direct proof. However, when the Lord Jesus appeared to him, his only reaction was "My Lord and my God!" John 20:28-29 Thomas answered and said to Him, "MY LORD AND MY GOD !" Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." What was Jesus' reaction to the title of God? Did Jesus rebuke him for calling Him "God"? No! In fact, Jesus praised Thomas for his belief. And the belief that Thomas exhibited was that Jesus was LORD AND GOD . If Jesus were not God, accepting such a statement for truth would be a grievous sin. Either Jesus is God or He would have to be a sinner! |
^^^ what kind of prophet utter curses on his enemy on his dead bed ? The Qur’an records the certainty of death of Muhammad and his followers: Surah 39:30: “Lo! thou wilt die, and lo! they will die.” (Pickthall) Contrast the above statement with the assurance that Jesus Christ gave to his true followers: John 14:19: “Because I live, you will live also.” The difference between Jesus and Muhammad is as the difference between life and death. And this gives us a compelling reason to reject Islam. John 17:3: “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” |
tartar9:but muhammad end up with lie, he accused christians and Jews of something they did not commits: Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 427: Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas: When the last moment of the life of Allah’s Apostle came he started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said , “MAY ALLAH CURSE THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS FOR THE BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” recall Muhammad’s reason for cursing the Jews and the Christians. He said, “FOR THE BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” We will now address this accusation of Muhammad. We will look at the facts recorded in the Bible. As stated in Deuteronomy 34:5-6, God wisely buried Moses in an undisclosed place. And in the case of Jesus, Jehovah completely removed his body. He did this to prevent, in both instances, the very thing that Muhammad was accusing the Jews and Christians of committing. Both the concealment of Moses’ body and the removal of Jesus’ body prevented the worshippers of Jehovah from being enticed to make pilgrimages or pay homage to such sites. It protected them from creature-worship. In contrast, what did the Muslims do with Muhammad’s tomb after his death? Muslims built a mosque on his tomb. His grave became a place for Muslim pilgrims to visit in Medina annually. The Prophet’s tomb at Medina is, after Mecca, the site most venerated by Muslims. It is visited with reverence in the hearts of the faithful. Ironically, these Muslims fell into the very class of people, upon whom Muhammad beseeched Allah’s CURSE Unlike Jehovah, Allah did not have the wisdom or the insight to prevent the causes that could lead to creature worship among his worshippers. Muhammed lied when he accused christians and Jews of worshipping in dead prophet tomb. None of your muslims brothers were able to address this questions. |
Snipes009:are you a muslims ? you still have a lot to learn concerning Christianity. |
gbolarious1:what are you saying? Do you think I interpret what I don't understand? I type the word "alright" because I don't want to indulge in unfruitful arguments. |
chuna1985:alright. |
chuna1985:calling allah father is blasphemous to muslims. |
Rilwayne001:ezekiel 9:5 was a judgment against the idolatry Ezekiel 9New International Version (NIV) Judgment on the Idolaters 9 Then I heard him call out in a loud voice, “Bring near those who are appointed to execute judgment on the city, each with a weapon in his hand.” 2 And I saw six men coming from the direction of the upper gate, which faces north, each with a deadly weapon in his hand. With them was a man clothed in linen who had a writing kit at his side. They came in and stood beside the bronze altar. 3 Now the glory of the God of Israel went up from above the cherubim, where it had been, and moved to the threshold of the temple. Then the Lord called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit at his side 4 and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.” 5 As I listened, he said to the others, “Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. 6 Slaughter the old men, the young men and women, the mothers and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” So they began with the old men who were in front of the temple. 7 Then he said to them, “Defile the temple and fill the courts with the slain. Go!” So they went out and began killing throughout the city. 8 While they were killing and I was left alone, I fell facedown, crying out, “Alas, Sovereign Lord! Are you going to destroy the entire remnant of Israel in this outpouring of your wrath on Jerusalem?” 9 He answered me, “The sin of the people of Israel and Judah is exceedingly great; the land is full of bloodshed and the city is full of injustice. They say, ‘The Lord has forsaken the land; the Lord does not see.’ 10 So I will not look on them with pity or spare them, but I will bring down on their own heads what they have done.” 11 Then the man in linen with the writing kit at his side brought back word, saying, “I have done as you commanded.” New International Version (NIV) |
domopps:your question is not making sense. surah 4:89 says : “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they). But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. Thus those who have fled from what is forbidden, i.e., embraced Islam, should be killed if they “turn renegades.” |
chuna1985:Christianity is the only way to have a relationship with God, If you spend much time around a Christian, sooner or later you will hear the phrase " having a personal relationship with God" . The believers knows this, Christianity is the only religion that state the phrase. many religions even forbid it followers to call their god father let alone having a relationship with their god, islam see this as blasphemy . The way to be right with God in every religion is by earning your way. It is based on works, NOT grace. Christianity is different from every religion in this aspect: all other religions (including Mormonism, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism) state that you must earn the right to be reconciled with God. It is by what you do in this life (good deeds or bad deeds)that determines your eternal destiny. Matthew 6:9-13 9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread.12 And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors.13 And do not lead us into temptation,But deliver us from the evil one. The first two words of this model prayer tell us a great deal about relationships. First, notice that Jesus starts out with the word OUR, not the word MY. The reason is that God is not only the father of the person praying, but of others also. In this context, the our includes the “horizontal” relationship with other people who are children of God. Today, since we can “Get right with God through Jesus,” the word our includes all Christians. |
urahara:I say this in the other thread: the old testament were part of the scripture BUT This does not mean, however, that everything in the Scriptures applies to us as law Through Moses,God gave a law to Israel. We can learn much from that law. But it was never given to the church of Christ as a law. The purpose of the old testament is for christians to learn of God plans: Romans 15:4 “For whatever things were written BEFORE were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have HOPE” Although the Old and New Testaments together form the Scriptures, the New Covenant SUPERSEDE and REPLACE the Old Covenant. Here what God say in Jeremiah: Jeremiah 31:31-34 31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISREAL and with the people of Judah. 32 It will NOT BE LIKE THE COVENANT I MADE WITH THEIR ANCESTORS when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to[ a] them,[b]” declares the Lord. 33“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.34No longer will they teach their neighbor,or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,” declares the Lord.“For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.” This new covenant was fullfiled in the new testament. When I say " the New Covenant SUPERSEDE the old " this is what I mean. The ten commandments no longer apply as law because in the doctrine of Christ they are completely superseded. In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus demands much more of us than the ten commandments. He not only forbids murder and adultery, but also the CAUSE, hate and lust. We are to love God with ALL OUR MIND, if you love God you will keep His commandments, so the key word is LOVE. No wonder Jesus give the TWO great commandments involving love God and your fellow human. So, love for God and fellowman, not just because there is a command: “You shall not kill”. Hope you understand now? |
plaetton:God's Love required justice, just because God is love doesent mean He will pretend everything is okay when men sin. |
plaetton:1 you believe in something extraordinary, what kind of thing is that? When you say extraordinary, does it mean something immaterial? 2.you call it meaningless babbles but you are the one who first raised the issue. You are not different from the people who God wiped out ,why are you still alive? It is by his grace you are here, until you fill up the measure of your sin. |
KingEbukasBlog:from what I observe, pleatton atheism is different from many atheists here on nairaland, he hate the idea of God existence. He does not want to play by anybody rules. Kind of man who hate being shown his mistake, superior than other. |
plaetton:bitterness and anger ,this thread may have upset you soo much that you cannot hide your anger. Were you not the one who admits, juju and magic are real and you believe in it, on the other thread ? Your quote; "It may shock you that I do believe that extraordinary things happen. I have seen and experienced a few" https://www.nairaland.com/2738079/atheists-traditionalists-come/1 You are not force to listen to christians preaching, Jesus say "shake the dust from your feet" you are not force to listen. You called Christianity hypocrite, But Jesus denounced religious hypocrites. So if hypocrisy turns your stomach, you might be Christ-like yourself. People can deeply hurt us, and if they happen to call themselves Christians it could turn us off Jesus for life. Real christians think of themselves as having a low view of their own morality because of the past sin they committed prior to their calling. You might have every reason to hate the person you think God to be, but is that 'God' real? Your anger feels justified. We can understand infinite wisdom, however, no more than a babe understands its mother. What if your resentment towards God is like that of a desperately sick child who bites his doctor,imagining the caring doctor to be the cause of his torment, rather than his only hope of recovery? What a tragedy if you let the simple fact that you don't have infinite IQ rob you of your greatest source of comfort. No one has been so spurned, so misunderstood, so much hated without cause as God is every moment of every day by millions of people, each of whom he loves more than we could conceive. No one is touched as deeply by humanity's anguish as its Creator. No one is as aware of suffering humanity as God is, and no one loves with the intensity that God loves. And your pain intensifies his pain. |
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why should I ask d holy spirit to suppress God's nature in me

