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Emusan:
So you think there's no error in what you quoted, right

A critical examination of this sura you quoted point out many errors that debunked Islam:

1. The Prophets here are the one before Muhammad who are NOT Arabians

2. The people who Allah made covenant with through those Prophets are the people of that time, lineage of those Prophets and tribe of those Prophets. NOT ANOTHER TRIBE OR LINEAGE

Now from the sura you quoted, the sura said "...and then there come TO YOU a messenger fulfilling that which is WITH YOU... "

Notice the "TO YOU & WITH YOU" in the above outline which is the same people those Prophets spoke with.

I can't but help to ask after reading this verse, why would Allah now send a messenger to those who Allah didn't make covenant with?

plainbibletruth:
It's clear that majority of Moslems have been CONDITIONED to only accept what they are told about the quran, The hadith and Islam.

Point them to a clear INCONSISTENCY or ERROR in the quran (the quran which btw Mohamed never wrote but recited to others who eventually compiled the recitations into a book several years after his death) and they will refuse to see it because that would go against their CONDITIONING. Going ahead to accept weaknesses in Islam would mean confronting the TRUTH; something many of them are unwilling or afraid to face.

That is why NOT ONE OF THEM has been able to answer the questions asked on just a single simple portion of the quran. They just can't face the truth!

Jesus Christ said:
"I am the way, and the TRUTH, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through me" John 14: 6

UmarIbnShittu:
last I check it u dat can't comprehend a simple self explanatory verse.


And who has tym for you

UmarIbnShittu:
u have tried to create error
I rather use my time to train my dog than waste it on explaining things to a fool

iamgenius:
Allah states that He took a pledge from every Prophet whom He sent from Adam until `Isa, that when Allah gives them the Book and the Hikmah, thus acquiring whatever high grades they deserve, then a Messenger came afterwards, they would believe in and support him. Even though Allah has given the Prophets the knowledge and the prophethood, this fact should not make them refrain from following and supporting the Prophet who comes after them. This is why Allah, the Most High, Most Honored, said:

(And (remember) when Allah took the covenant of the Prophets, saying: "Take whatever I gave you from the Book and Hikmah.'') meaning, if I give you the Book and the Hikmah,

"and afterwards there will come to you a Messenger confirming what is with you; you must, then, believe in him and help him.'' Allah said, "Do you agree (to it) and will you take up Isri'')

I say: Allah never sent a Prophet but after taking his pledge that if Muhammad were sent in his lifetime, he would believe in and support him.'' Allah commanded each Prophet to take a pledge from his nation that if Muhammad were sent in their time, they would believe in and support him.

Allah took the pledge from the Prophets that they would believe in each other.

Therefore, Muhammad is the Final Prophet until the Day of Resurrection. He is the greatest Imam, who if he existed in any time period, deserjves to be obeyed, rather than all other Prophets. This is why Muhammad led the Prophets in prayer during the night of Isra' when they gathered in Bayt Al-Maqdis (Jerusalem vants.

UmarIbnShittu:
3:81. (Recall the time) when Allâh bound (the people) to a covenant through the Prophets (saying), ‘Indeed, whatever I have vouchsafed to you of the Book and the Wisdom, and then there comes to you a Messenger fulfilling that which is with you, you shall surely believe in him and have to help him.’ (The Lord further) said, ‘Do you agree and do you undertake the heavy responsibility of My covenant on these (terms)?’ They said, ‘We do agree.’ (God) said, ‘Bear witness to it and I am with you among the witnesses.’





Trying to create an error were. None exist Goodluck on your life quest (mission)

7Alexander:
The irony of this makes me laugh.

So, he knew the importance of talking to family members but was going to kill himself on a suicide mission. So what if he had succeeded? How could he have talked to them when he will be in 'heaven' chilling with 12 virgins?

What of the people he would have killed on the suicide mission? Did he spare a thought for their families?

Onye Iberibe

Goshen360:
.....especially faith IN THE FINISHED WORKS OF CHRIST....

Thank you sir

Emusan:
Every open-minded persons who read about Christ Jesus know that nothing evil can be associated with the risen Lord!

Rashduct4luv:
“And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,’ - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ‘Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not (i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) )

But Allah raised him (‘Eesa (Jesus)) up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever AllPowerful, AllWise”

[an-Nisa’ 4:157, 158].

That's our belief. No one was there at the place when he was acclaimed crucified.

Rashduct4luv:
He was raised up to heaven and was neither killed nor crucified.

OtemAtum:
Agnostic are sure the talkative bible god isn't God Almighty that's why they can boldly blast the hell out of that one, but they aren't sure if there is GOD out there. It's the case of a boy who grew up not knowing his father, then suddenly a dirty, haggard, drunkard with bad and odious character showed up in his life and said that he was his father. The boy knew the man can never be his father because they are never near compatible medically and physically. But the boy isn't sure if his own father is still out there somewhere.

hopefulLandlord:
most atheists are agnostic to a "creator" but are sure the abrahamic god is manmade

damariox:
Why should I return to a cult now I don't even believe in a Christian God?

segunojo866:
of course. Am an agnostic Guy

jonbellion:
Abeg let us hear word
I'm not an atheist and I don't give hoof about religious Gods
The only thing you use against atheist is the designer agreement which is not wrong
When you enter the aspects of the ACTUAL RELIGION you adhere too you are floored time and again
Time and again I repeat
So just let it rest
Hopefullandlord and the gang will take it from here

Rashduct4luv:
Yes, Allah is God.

He is Allah, the One and Only. He is the same God worshiped in the Jewish and Christian faiths and is recognisable as such. Across the globe and throughout history people of all faiths and beliefs have turned towards God, or a supreme deity, the Creator of the universe. He is Allah. Allah is God. God the Creator. God the Sustainer.

The word God is spelled and pronounced differently in many languages: the French call him Dieu, the Spanish, Dios and the Chinese refer to the One God as Shangdi. In Arabic, Allah means the One True God, worthy of all submission and devotion. Jewish and Christian Arabs refer to God as Allah, and He is the same One True God referred to in the Biblical passage,

“Hear O Israel, the Lord your God is One”. (Deuteronomy 6.4 & Mark 12.29)

In all three monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) God and Allah are the same. However, when asking the question, Is Allah God, it is equally important to understand who Allah is not.

He is not a man, nor is He an ethereal spirit, therefore when Muslims talk about Allah there is no concept of a trinity. He was not begotten nor does He beget, therefore He does not have sons or daughters. He does not have partners or underlings; therefore, there are no demi gods or minor deities inherent in the concept of Allah. He is not part of His creation and Allah is not in everybody and everything. Consequently, it is not possible to become allahlike or attain allahhood.

“Say (O Muhammad): He is Allah, [who is] One. Allah, the Self-Sufficient Master. He begets not, nor was He begotten; and there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.” (Qur'an 112)

The Qur'an, God’s book of guidance for all of humankind was revealed in Arabic; therefore, non-Arabic speakers can become confused about terminology and names. When a Muslim says the word Allah, he is talking about God. God the Supreme, God the Magnificent, God the Omnipotent. The Creator of all that exists.

“He has created the heavens and the earth in truth. High be He Exalted above all they associate as partners with Him.” (Qur'an 16:3)

Muslims believe that Islam is the final message of God to humankind, and they believe that God gave the Torah to Prophet Moses as he gave the Gospel to Prophet Jesus. Muslims believe that Judaism and Christianity, in their pristine forms, were divine religions. In fact, one of the tenants of Islam is to believe in all of God’s revealed books. The Prophets of Islam include the same Prophets present in Jewish and Christian traditions; they all came to their people with the same message – to recognize and to worship the One God.

“...were you witnesses when death approached Jacob? When he said unto his sons, ‘What will you worship after me?’ They said, ‘We shall worship your God, the God of your fathers, Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac, One God, and to Him we submit (in Islam).” (Qur'an 2:133)

Muslims love and respect all the Prophets and Messengers of God. However, Muslims believe that the Qur'an contains the only concept of God that has not been tainted by man made ideas and idolatrous practices.

He, Allah/God made it very clear in Qur'an that He had sent messengers to every nation. We do not know all the names, or the dates; we do not know all the stories or the calamities, but we do know that God did not create even a single person and then abandon him. God’s message of mercy, love, justice, and truth was made available to all of humankind.

“And verily, We have sent among every community or nation, a Messenger (proclaiming), "Worship Allah (Alone), and avoid all false deities... ". (Quran 16:36)

“And for every nation there is a messenger...” (Quran 10:47)

For thousands of years humankind has lived and died across this wide earth. Every time a woman looks towards the sky in search of a Creator, she is turning to Allah. Every time a man buries his face in his hands and begs for mercy or relief, he is asking Allah. Every time a child crouches fearfully in a corner, his heart is searching for Allah. Allah is God. Whenever a person is thankful for the bright new day, or the cool refreshing rain, or the wind whispering in the trees, he or she is thankful to Allah, thankful to God.

Humankind has taken the purity of God and mixed it up with wild imaginings and strange superstitions. God is not three, He is One. God does not have partners or associates; He is Alone in His majesty and in His dominion. It is not possible to become godlike because there is nothing comparable to God. God is not part of His creation; He is beyond it. He is the first, and the last. God is Allah, the Most Merciful.

“… There is nothing like unto Him…” (Qur'an 42:11)

“And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.” (Qur'an 112:4)

“He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him) and the Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him). And He is the All-Knower of everything.” (Qur'an 57:3)

Yes! God is Allah.

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Scholar8200:
There, sir, is the underlying issue which much conscience-silencing bluster and belligerent vituperation is meant to shield viz, the desire of not wanting to be accountable for moral failures.

Elparaiso:
Okay, please explain it from the Christian perspective. I want to hear how loving God was that he had to kill someone to save us. You know, the same God who isn't bound by any rule and can forgive us just like that.


Even the Jesus sef scam us, the guy no die. Just suffer small go heaven, that one no be die na.

malvisguy212:
Another reason for rejecting God (choosing
atheism), is a willing acceptance of satanic
deception. The angel Lucifer (“luminous one”) fell and became Satan (“adversary”) due to his desire to supplant God. This was Lucifer’s single, minded obsession. He not only rejected God by attempting to supplant Him, but he urged humans to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to choose against God for her own self-fulfilment:

Genesis 3:1-5
He said to the woman, “Did God actually say,
‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?”
And the woman said to the serpent, “We may
eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but
God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the
tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither
shall you touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Let us analyze this verses:

The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s
statements, then, contradict God’s statements
and, finally, urge rebellion in seeking equality
with God.

This manifest in atheists as :

1.Questioning whether there is a God to make
statements in the first place, so God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to have
been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing God
with the self.

This satanic deception appeals strongly to
atheists as it bolsters two of their desired
delusions: 1) absolute autonomy being free to
do as they please, and 2) the lack of ultimate
accountability,there are no eternal
consequences for doing as they please.

When asked “What is the Church of Satan?”
Gilmore replies:

“Satanism begins with atheism. We begin with
the universe and say, “It’s indifferent. There’s no
God, there’s no Devil. No one cares!” So you
then have to make a decision that places
yourself at the center of your own subjective
universe, because of course we can’t have any
kind of objective contact with everything that
exists. That’s rather arrogant and delusional,
people who try to put things that way. So by
making yourself the primary value in your life,
you’re your own God. By being your own God,
you are comfortable about making your own
decisions about what to value. What’s positive to
you, is good. What harms you, is evil. You
extend it to things that you cherish and the
people that you cherish. So it’s actually very
easy to see that it’s a self-centered
philosophy.But it also requires responsibility,
since you are taking on for yourself the
complete onus for your personal success or
failure. You can’t be praying to a God or blaming
a devil, or anyone else, for that matter, for what
happens to you. It’s on your own head. That’s a
challenge for most people. Most people tend to
really feel that they want some kind of external
support, that they are outward looking and
might want some sort of supernatural parental
figure, or even some sort of existing
governmental authority, existing in their life.”

https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Satanism:_An_interview_with_Church_of_Satan_High_Priest_Peter_Gilmore

malvisguy212:
First Corinthians 1:20
(ESV) asks, “Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the
debater of this age? Has not God made
foolish the wisdom of the world?

This thread is not for you, you do not belong to the kingdom of God, Jesus likened people like you as dogs who eat from their master table, this teaching is beyond your knowledge. First
Corinthians 1:28–29 (ESV) goes on:

But God chose what is foolish in the
world to shame the wise; God chose
what is weak in the world to shame
the strong; God chose what is low and
despised in the world, even things
that are not, to bring to nothing
things that are, so that no human
being might boast in the presence of
God.

Martinez19:
you don't need to be scammed by a pastor to know christianity is a scam.

joseph1013:
WORSE THAN YOU IMAGINED

Christianity may be worse than you imagined. God is said to have given his only begotten son so he could grant mankind everlasting life. But he didn't give his son. According to Christians they are both together right now and have been for almost 2,000 years.

Since God did not lose his son, what then did he aim to achieve? There is only one reasonable answer. He wanted his son to experience fear and the agony of being beaten, humiliated and crucified. In return for this filicidal brutality, he would forgive whatever sins humans may commit so they could have an eternity of happiness instead of torture.

No part of this was remotely necessary--torturing an innocent man was simply the price God demanded for his forgiveness. This is not the thinking of a loving father. It is not even the thinking of a terrible father. It is the thinking of a deeply deranged psychopath.

frosbel2:
Christianity is a SCAM

shadeyinka:
Coincidence is a big word which concludes a matter simply because there is no suitable verifying apparatus available.

If something happens once, its a coincidence.
If it happens twice, it may still be a coincidence
BUT
When it becomes recurrent, its no more a coincidence.

I normally see major events in my life a day or two before it happens. Some of these events can be averted if not desirable and some, there is nothing you can do about them.

Dreams are parables of the Present and Future state of a person. If you can decode them, you will see that its no coincidence.

Yes, dreams are subjective and some dreams are junks. But the fact that they cannot be described/measured in the Laboratory does not mean that it doesn't exist as a form of reality.

Have you really wondered how some direct prophecy/word of knowledge works. If they are all arranged, then some of theirs acts must be very good actors. You wonder why they didn't joing nollywood.

hopefulLandlord:
If an omnipotent omniscient omnipresent god exists, everything is exactly the way he wants it, Nigeria's situation included