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PoliticsRe: Major Economic Achievements Of Goodluck Jonathan Administration by mandarin: 6:01pm On Apr 25, 2013
ifihearam: MAJOR ECONOMIC ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE JONATHAN ADMINISTRATION

The Economy

Improvement in Economic Indices - In October 2011 International Ratings agency, Fitch Ratings revised the country’s Outlook upwards from Negative to Stable.

Standard and Poor’s another internationally respected and independent ratings agency, revised Nigeria's ratings from stable to Positive.

Signing into law the Nigerian Oil and Gas Industry Content Development Bill 2010 (Local Content Bill) which has increased Local Content in the Oil and Gas sector.

Ø As a direct result of that law Royal Dutch Shell awarded a N7.8 billion ($49.9 million) contract to a Nigerian firm, S.C.C Limited, for the manufacture of high pressure line pipes that would otherwise have been awarded to a foreign firm.

Ø As a result of this law, Exxon Mobil awarded an off shore platform contract to a local firm, NigerDockNig. PLC that would otherwise have been awarded to a foreign firm.

Initiating the Sovereign Wealth Fund (SWF). A seed capital of $1 billion was provided to kick start the fund as well as establish three sub funds- the Nigeria Infrastructure Fund; the Future Generations Fund and the Stabilization Fund which will be the pillars of the SWF.

Launched the Youth Enterprise with innovation in Nigeria (YOUWIN) initiative on the 11th October 2011 which is the administration's job creation centre piece.

Ø On Thursday April 12, 2012, 1,200 Nigerian youths emerged winners of the competition following a transparent process. Each winner receives a business start up grant of between 1 to 10 million Naira.

Foreign exchange reserves rose to $37.02bn by May 14, 2012, the highest level in 21 months.

On March 29th, 2011, The UK Government in London described Nigeria as the fourth fastest growing economy in the world.

On February 13 2012, President Goodluck Jonathan launched the Public Works Women and Youth Empowerment Programme, an intervention programme designed to employ 370,000 youths in the year 2012 with 30% of those jobs being reserved for women.

The Federal Government under President Jonathan has secured investment commitments worth 4.89 Trillion Naira.

Launched the NigComSat-1Rsatellite which will help expand Internet Bandwidth, monitor the weather and provide early warning to prevent natural disasters like floods, crop monitoring and urban planning. It has the attendant benefit of reducing the over $1 billion spent in purchasing Internet Bandwidth from abroad.

Nigeria’s banking industry rescued and stabilized by the establishment of the Asset Management Company of Nigeria (AMCON) in the year 2010.

MasterCard made Nigeria its regional headquarters for its West/East and Indian Ocean islands zone raising the profile of Nigeria’s e-commerce industry.

Nigeria’s GDP grew by a record 8.29% during the last quarter of 2010 and by over 7% in 2011. In the first quarter of 2012 Nigeria had verifiably become the fourth fastest growing economy in the world as recently attested to by several multilateral bodies and trading partners.

Revival of the Textile industry via the 150 billion Naira Textile Industry Bailout. As a result the United Nigerian Textile Limited was reactivated amongst others and 2000 employees re-engaged.

Non oil exports from 2010 (standing at $2.3 Billion) and subsequent years are ten times what they were in 2000 (which were $200 Million) as a direct result of this administration’s intervention in the Textile Industry and Real Sector.
Economic achievements are measured ,largely in terms of expansion across various facets. How much employments has these touted achievements generated? When Sanusi became CBN governor thousands of jobs were lost but in spite of all the noise about getting Banks to help the micro economic sector work it has become worse off! I often listen to indices by Mrs Okonjo stating various economic growth rates and sometimes shake my head, its obvious that Harvard/MIT certificates or knowledge of the World Bank are not solutions to Nigeria economy.
No achievement can make any impact if corruption remains rife, no achievement will ,last when about a few families control the economy, no ,achievements will matter when Nigerians(and Niger Deltans) cannot benefit from oil mined in their country, no ,economic achievements count when no real sector of the economy is expanding!
In Nigeria, opportunities are shrinking and I will advise the President to just keep quiet as Nigeria has remained moribund since Yar'ardua regime
TV/MoviesRe: Which Is Ur Favorite Nigerian Tv Channel And Why? by mandarin: 2:41pm On Apr 24, 2013
Yes channels & ONTV. many of them have their parochial interest they are serving. LTV, TVC sometimes AIT( UNPROFESSIONAL AND MUDDLED UP STUFFS)
NTA is an aberration, technologically backward but a couple of high flying bureaucrats, MITV is so poor to me, i watch only one program on this station and that is Sundays alone
PoliticsRe: Yoruba's Will Not Benefit From APC Or Buhari As President - Okupe by mandarin: 1:33pm On Apr 24, 2013
How much has the Yoruba benefited from Jonathan administration more than ethnic drums and perceived desire to change industries where Yoruba people are dominant? I do not believe APC will ever present either Tinubu or Buhari in 2015 and even if they do who says PDP will win? I wish Nigeria were not a country of this kind but in the situation we found ourselves I think any change will suffice.
Obviously, Buhari had assasinated his own figure and presented himself as a northern Islamist but there are many young candidates that can do the job. The oshiomoles,Fasholas, Tambuwals etc can do the work while there are many technocrats that can. If personal ambition of Buhari would not truncate the merger its a good bet against Jonathan!
Or what are the likely achievements of President Jonathan sef? economic growth without opportunities,no one has been tried and convicted on corrupt charges, ballooned oil theft, hugely compromised security and a compromised approach to Boko Haram menace, the entire cabinet including Madame Harvard(Okonjo) are confused and world Bank's tomb prints cannot do the magic or what does she knows about small scale farming first hand, was she taught anything like that in MIT?
I do not belong to APC but I see everything from economic benefit point of view and I will never be bought into any cheap ethnic bigotry, AN ALTERNATIVE TO ALL NIGERIA'S CRAWLING economy is needed and must be achieved.
I just pity the present cheap town criers who want to tell the people what to believe, we are not blind men, we also visit places, we are no bush people here mscheeeew!
Christianity EtcRe: Nigeria Comes First With Most Christians In Africa by mandarin: 12:29pm On Apr 24, 2013
LagosShia: i know for sure that Nigeria does not have up to 50% christians in its population.

understanding the demographical make up of the six geo-political zones will make you see that.one thing that is good with this report,is that the confession comes from the horse's mouth that Nigeria does not have a clear-cut christian majority as some blind and fanatical christians believe.

let us examine the geo-political zones:

South-west- Mixed

South-East-Christian Majority


South-South-Christian Majority

North-West-Muslim Majority

North-East-Muslim Majority




North-Central-Muslim Majority

out of six regions only two have a christian majority population in general.and those two happen to be the smallest regions.three regions are majority muslim.and the south-west is mixed and many including the yoruba indigenes of the south-west will confidently contend and reveal that the muslims in the south-west are more than their christian counterparts.

the only thing christians have more than muslims are places of worship.figuratively there are more churches than christians for instance as the case is in Lagos Muslims on Fridays are forced to pray outside the mosques and spread our mats on the streets to pray because of lack of space.you can see that for yourself on a friday afternoon jum'ah service in Agege or Lagos Island.
My contest is not about what Christianity or Islam is in terms of faith or whether citizens are ,born again or not but your assertion as stated above.
Permit me as someone who ,knows Nigeria a little bit to dispute your clarifications on Geo political zones and religion prominence. The only Muslim dominated regions in Nigeria are Northwest and Northeast.In ,the Middle Belt it is not so :
Niger - more Muslims than Christians
Nasarawa - Mixed
Benue - christian dominated
Taraba - more Christians than Muslims
Adamawa - mixed(more christian and atheists)
Plateau - christian dominated
In the southwest it will be a honest confession that this region has the highest number of christian converts in Nigeria and the base of evangelical ,movements its a much christian majority zone but the culture above religion of the people relegate religion to a second level.
In the Northwest, there are still christian population in all the states and a place like southern Kaduna is christian dominated. I know christian indigents of Kano and had relationship with a few of them at a time.
The Northeast has more Christians than the northwest. Southern Bauchi, Gombe,are shining examples while Borno state has high percentage of Christians especially in southern Borno. I presently work with a Borno state man and i ,know quite a number of them.
All the noise making about Muslim majority in Nigeria are mere politics of population and religious superiority contest. While I would not want to dwell on areas of sincerity in faith I will be open to a contrary opinions on these.
Mind you, the Nigeria population figures are ruse meant to achieve political dominance of the north in resource sharing formula and i can bet it that if satellites aided computers are used in head count the outcome will stun you. Yoruba is the largest single ethnic group in Nigeria and Igbo is second largest ethnic group followed by Hausa(group not speakers or Muslims) and may be Fulani if all are to be treated separately.
Nigeria can never be sincere about this and any such result will be discarded as not reflecting growth on previous dubious data.
Christianity EtcRe: Philosophy Of Religion For Nigerians: A Must Read For All by mandarin: 1:00pm On Apr 22, 2013
Come and see, Jesus truly has gone beyond arguments for HIS works are made manifest in us and HIS works of love still go on just by ......NOT A CLICK....but at the mention of HIS name.
Christianity EtcRe: The Tower Of Babel, Which Heaven Were Dey Building It To? by mandarin: 12:55pm On Apr 22, 2013
I like your question but detest your ,humorous comments. The word of God/CHRIST is to them that perish foolishness(I CORINTHIANS 1:18)
The scriptures recorded that men were building a tower to reach God in millions of years ago, now the world was not as it is now , ask archaeologists and co. The truth is sometimes, biblical stories are rife with proverbial descriptions but that is not enough for your rather demeaning jest. keep hell out of your heart and come and see what matter in our generation.......what has been happening in the name of Jesus.
PoliticsRe: Has Tinubu Now Surpassed Awolowo? by mandarin: 12:28pm On Apr 22, 2013
I don't think the Yoruba people are bothered by your concern but its easy to deduce that Oduduwa was a progenitor to whom the Yoruba people ascribe their ancient background, preceded by Agbiniregun,Orunmila and co but Oduduwa set out an original kingdom that encompass a vast area of land on which his children(or grand children) settled or conquered.
He(or she) is seen and regarded as the founding authority but certainly not the only founder or father of all souls called Yoruba today.
Awolowo is the 21st century renaissance leader who combined passion with vision and up to date laid the foundation for a modern Yoruba nation.He surpassed his peers and unarguably had a foresight on socioeconomic developments of his people and Nigeria at large.
Tinubu laid a ,solid foundation for what Fashola to do in Lagos but he is a direct beneficiary of Awo's vision and service.
I do not expect any argument but Tinubu's economic pursuits and ,programs are still being expected, so he does not compare with either of the two , at least not yet. But I don't think Yoruba people share your concern.
PoliticsRe: The Myths About SE As An Oil Producing Region. by mandarin: 1:43pm On Apr 17, 2013
[quote author=Sunny_bobo]@Op, You forgot to state that the oil producing area of Ondo state is actually the Ijaw area and not Yoruba.[/quote]Has communities benefited from oil produced in them? all these are just funny. I pray Nigeria evolve out of its many problems as a strong egalitarian society but if there are crises many of you will be surprised many places you think your ethnic group owns wont be theirs, you will see history and original maps that are apolitical just ask of Bakassi. some offshore oil blocks will not be for many present states. You will also learn that you cannot claim water or swamps without a landmass etc etc. The best for all of us is peace. Oil do not make any nation people do
PoliticsRe: The Myths About SE As An Oil Producing Region. by mandarin: 1:32pm On Apr 17, 2013
pazienza: Who are ndokwa people? I had never heard of an igbo group by the name ndokwa,but if you mean the local government of my favourite igbo musician Ali chukwuma, then i guess you meant to say ukwuani,(ndokwa is but an lga in ukwuani) and yes,they are igbos. Igbos came from different places in the past,only central igbo groups around okigwe-orlu axis claim to have been in igboland as long as they can remember.

On rivers state,you might need to check out Oyigbo lga,they are asa and ndoki tribes of the igbo nation,and the remainder of their people are found in ukwa east and ukwa west of abia state,it was oil politics that was aimed at depriving SE( east central) of any oil producing community that placed them in rivers state, same with egbema in rivers. Coming to SE, we don't have oil,yet we want out of nigeria,doesn't that tell you that we believe that we can do without oil?
We have some oil in imo and few in abia,with anambra boasting of some quantities too, but there is more to igboland than presence or lack of oil. What makes most nation great is not really natural resources(though natural resources is an added bonus),what make most nations great is the quality of their human resources,this is what we have in abundance in igboland. What we need is a conducive enviroment,(free of the paranoia and fear of domination of other nigerian groups,that breeds the pull him down spirit),to harness the potentials of our rich human resources,under a competent leadership,to build an igbo country we can be proud of.

You should be thinking the same for your ethnic group,and not spending time worrying about igboman's problem.
Am so impressed by your reply. I don't support separation but a form of unity in diversity. Have you considered a similar form of Regional Government like the days of Western, Eastern and Northern Region competing. Presently we will have more than 10 regions but regions with huge ethnic groups like the Hausa/Fulani,Ijo, Tiv, Yoruba,Igbo Kanuri can form regions why we can also have some small ethnic groups into their own autonomous regions/states etc with economic means e.g. Akwa Ibom groups Rivers groups can make small autonomous enclaves maybe within a larger administrative structure.
Nigeria need not be dismantled, there is so much strengths in diversity.What is wrong in having Hausa /Fulani Arewa Emirates up north as a practicing Islamic region which recognize non Muslims. Its a matter of time when economic competitions become focus of political relevance, religion will become a second factor.
Christianity EtcRe: Exposed! Redeemed Pastor Adeboye In N20b Fraud! by mandarin: 10:16am On Apr 17, 2013
through certificate no., BO/REV/12235/S.2/T.133 to import construction materials; generators and vehicles. The value of the imports was N49, 155, 546, 846. 00. In 2007, another import waiver was granted.

This time through a certificate number BO/R10260/V111/161, RCCG was granted rights to import building/construction materials


If you got these certificate numbers and you quoted them correctly then examine yourself if you are not accusing the church and this man of God wrongly! Better have fear for God or is there any record that he profited personally? If Dangote is given imports waiver he is not fraudulent but when a man of God or church is involved its all your noise making. I pray God will forgive your ignorance!
It will be good if you can begin to champion that religious not for profit organizations begin to pay taxes intead of breeding hell in your heart.
PoliticsRe: Is Lamido Sanusi (CBN Governor) Pursuing A Hidden Agenda? by mandarin: 1:45pm On Apr 15, 2013
Chrisbenogor: The need to politicize everything has come again, did the OP miss what happened in America and in Europe? BOA? Northern rock? AIG? Ford? GM? the list goes on, which politicking was going on then?
People who are playing with the money of the masses and all you can think about is that the person is playing politics how pathetic can we become?
I wish I could believe the sincerity of Nigerian system. Let me remind you of one Mr Falalu the CEO of Unity Bank when he complained of the South dominating the Banking industry! Cleaning a system is not by virtually ripping the industry of its employees. my submission is that Mr. Sanusi carries a lot of ethnic sleeves on him and so it wont be too wrong to imply his ethnic rhetorics can translate to actions. He did not handle the crises with any constructive solution. How did Access Bank acquire intercontinental? did it borrow money to fund the take over? where is the fund now? I think we must understand that even the devil as bad as he is will look at a man's weakness to ,nail ,him and simply put Sanusi ,saw that in those CEO's and nailed them.
Write ups like southerners owing banking assets or insurance assets can only be borne out of ethnocentric mentality. Did what Sanusi did actually helped banks in the micro economic sectors of the economy? Nigeria is a funny country where everyone have the reason to kill and make alive!
Its in Nigeria that the economy grow without creating opportunities, very funny
PoliticsRe: Okonjo-Iweala Denies Pursuing Igbo Agenda Allegation by mandarin: 1:17pm On Apr 15, 2013
claremont: On the contrary, I would argue that there is actually a positive perception of Igbos, not only in Nigeria, but also around the world. They are known for their entrepreneurial spirit against all odds, that is the first thing that comes to my mind when I meet one of them. I'm not Igbo by the way.
Yes and that would have made the Igbo person someone to admire if the culture of get rich at any cost is not involved.I love the Igbo for their struggles, they are self reliant and independent.But this has its own negativity which is playing out in everyone playing king of my backyard system. There is the need to evolve a communal system that cares for the up coming, parents need to know what their children do for a living and see that they succeed. More supports for the young folks will make them think with good sense of community relations.
Madam Ngozi may have her rhetorics like saying the economy is growing yet we don't see opportunities created! One thing is sure to every action there is an equal and opposite reactions, so consider others on merit so that you don't over kill your future opportunities!
I pray this woman will help create more opportunities in the economy and not give us the kind of world bank/IMF stimulated policies that will bring us down into the abyss.
PropertiesRe: Get A Company Website From Us.price From 15,000 by mandarin: 2:25pm On Apr 11, 2013
like if we can chat with clients online or receive emails sent to our inbox @ company's name
PoliticsRe: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by mandarin: 4:42pm On Apr 04, 2013
Its obvious that our education has really declined that many Nigerian youths could not ascertain economic factors and growth apparatus! Going by the comments of many here I just can't figure out where this nation is headed.
Well to those who beat the ethnic drum, the economy of a city develop over several years and what Lagos Governor said was the fact.
The informal sector that remain largely untaxed can still make Lagos much richer than it presently is. Who owns what is of no bearing and considering the infrastructure that abound(though meager) Lagos will remain ,the hub of West Africa for decades to come. The question of who built today's Lagos can be credited to the Awolowo's era and not any Federal Government.
PropertiesRe: Get A Company Website From Us.price From 15,000 by mandarin: 4:31pm On Apr 03, 2013
give me details . i will want a fairly interactive website pls
Christianity EtcRe: How Did Black People Become Black? by mandarin: 4:07pm On Mar 30, 2013
I don't know whether anyone has ever thought of what happened when god divided the language of the people at the Tower of Babel. Maybe God did not just divide their tongues but also their pigments. Well if not, I don't think God created whites or blacks separately. If the Bible story is true then all races are descendants of Noah.
When Esau was called red and hairy, it was definitely because his complexion was distinct from the ubiquitous appearance of his father's house and race, he looked different, with much hair unlike jacob and with red skin. We all know there are no specifically red skinned people today or white ,or brown or yellow, but red could be inferred to be close to lighter skin than what was previously obtained. Esau's generation would have produced a whole lots of red people in varieties because he inter married a lot.
I think to know the colour of the children of jacob is to know the colour of the Egyptians at the time because Joseph has the same pigment with them.
It doesn't matter who conducted researches and wrote books but this is the info age and we need to know the truth. Take for instance how could Oduduwa fall through a chain from the sky? Wasn't that to mean his descend was a mysterious event? We cannot just believe everything a man writes because he had a great deal of researched from oxford, we will be excluding the vital possibility of arrogated superiority pursuit which can influence findings.
I believe a chunk of west african people moved to their present location may be from east africa may be from Mesopotamia. I do know that the Yoruba people of west Africa do know about the Nimrod/Abraham story or they were part of it. Whether the Israelites were negro or not they definitely had spread into every existing genes in the world through inter marriage, captivity.
PoliticsRe: If Nigeria Will Break, Let It Breat--pastor Oyedepo by mandarin: 5:10pm On Mar 22, 2013
Many youths I presume for most posts are by the young generations, do not understand that governance is not as easy especially after a nation so interdependent as Nigeria(of course for good and otherwise)which has passed through a civil war.
There will be difficult issues like the identities and difficult decisions for some states or people from Edo, Delta, and non-Yoruba in kwara and kogi. The Ikwerre in Rivers and Itsekiri in relation to Igbo and Yoruba respectively. In fact, drawing boundaries might take up to 20 years.The Niger Delta might be at war over resources especially oil blocks except if they should have a common enemy from outside that can give them some kind of inner cohesion but if not,I bet it will be difficult. Then comes the Middle Belt and Hausa/Fulani,where will the border be drawn? if through armed conflicts no one can predetermine such,but it can be achieved through negotiated separation.
Then comes to bear are issues of flash points which can include Porthacourt if Igbos see their nationhood survival based on claiming that city, it cannot be ruled out at all, what about Warri if Yoruba should claim Ishekiri as their kinsmen, Lokoja if Yoruba should dream of pitching their tent at the River bank, what about Delta state where you have many small ethnic groups that their identities can suddenly become of economic value which in a state of violence they will have to associate themselves with a bigger or kinsmen or risk being anihilated in civil violence. Jos,and Kaduna are some of other places.
As regard survival or suffering, I think all the likely successor of Nigeria have something to hang on to, oil is important but not the only important thing in development but people. I think Yoruba and Igbo have human resources and with dogged determinations the Igbo more likely to survive but they will have massive intra- ethnic problems and will still need many of their men live in other countries to repatriate funds home. Minus Porthacourt and the Ikwerre, Igbo may have to shift their focus elsewhere to achieve good trading and will need a whole lots of fund to build infrastructure and they can achieve that. I love them and I know they have the capacity to achieve anything.
Many young people often post here that the North will suffer, I doubt that they will suffer due to scarce resource but they may be affected by their low human development index but it will be a society of rich and poor, believe me they have arable land so they may not be food poor and their exports can be very helpful.The North has a huge population though not as reported by census( I don't believe those figures because I had lived there before) and they can take advantage of that.
The Middle Belt cannot emerge as a country but a couple of countries and their chances of succeeding is high but they will need visionary and strong leaders to do that.Then comes the Yoruba, we must admit they are politically more sophisticated and have Lagos, they have a wider landmass that will not give them any immediate territorial conflict with their neighbors, good farmland and promising oil and gas industry to achieve long term steady economic developments. I see that region especially if able to win for itself the Edo and some Delta areas achieving a second world economy in a decade.If it did not however, it can achieve coherence and first world country in twelve years. I see this happening because of the liberal mindset of the people and their accommodating values that will keep about half of all non Yoruba population within their territory.
I still believe the best way to make Nigeria work is the regional arrangements that will satisfy all Nigerian groups big and small, that is the beauty of the United States.
PoliticsRe: Describe Goodluck Jonathan In One Word by mandarin:
I think he is 'WEAK' i was there at the Redemption camp where he compared himself with David in the Bible but up till now I have not seen the character of Davidic response to crises in him. David built Israel and united the people including his haters. I think the President needs to learn more from his model if David really is.
PoliticsRe: Did You Vote Jonathan In 2011 And Will You In 2015? by mandarin: 2:59pm On Mar 19, 2013
The last minute change of heart that caused ACN to jettison their own candidate for GEJ doesn't look likely in 2015 because Jonathan has not only disappointed the Southwest but is still struggling to cope with the enormity of pressure on him from all sides.
The core north has a huge voting population from northwest to northeast and I don't think these traumatized populace in the hand of Boko Haram will accept the level of security as good efforts by GEJ apart from the ethnocentric feelings of voters. The Middle Belt areas cannot be predicted but if a very strong opposition party should chose its candidate from that region they may root for one of their own. GEJ looks good to go in South south and south east but the south east is a swing areas where money plays a lot of roles and alliances are largely built not on any clear ideology but financial resource and profits of powerful individuals.
I don't think President Jonathan himself believes he will win but his not winning depends on the strength and candidacy of the opposition. If APC scale through and Presents a North - West alliance candidates, the President will not win no matter what Ali and Anenih do.
In my own opinion, I think the President is too compromised to really pull a hard string like Obasanjo though unlike him he doesn't show so much of personal ambitions. His weaknesses are too obvious to everyone especially his enemies and all his adverts of having no shoes has not rubbed on poor Nigerians. I feel he has not shown enough resolve to taking out poverty and write his name in gold but has rather caved in to ethnic and economic Lords who are bend on eating Nigeria to the bones.
I don't think WHO THE PRESIDENT WILL MATTER once Nigeria comes through political structure that can sustain competition and innovation which will be regional integration across geopolitical zones with some adjustments here and there. A situation that will bring all Igbos together as an autonomous region or state or Province with their own constitution et al is the same system that can make Ikwerre in Rivers and Tiv in Benue into autonomous regions. The Hausa/Fulani dominated states can form their own economic/religious bloc introduce sharia and live the way they desire while the Kanuri can also evolve their system and political revolutions. The Yoruba with their kit and kins can form whatever they want to be named and so minority groups can come together as unions to form regional blocs and I see Nigerians less concern about who is the President in Abuja.
We can have diverse opinions here but for as long as we all see government revenues as national cakes we will have untold hardships, ethnic divisions and religious brouhaha.
PoliticsRe: To My Boko Haram And Northern Brothers, Let Us Learn From The Yoruba. by mandarin: 10:08am On Mar 15, 2013
Am reading this thread just now and will want to share my thoughts.
We have a mix of religious beliefs among our staff and the lifestyle of some of the Yoruba Muslims are commendable not just because one of them has a Christian wife but he said that he tried to educate his children in Islam but the choice to become Christians will be left to them in due course.
I brought up this to show how liberal some of Yoruba muslims are. Generally, Yoruba people have this cultural affinity that rise above religion sentiment which is responsible for an employer for instance to prefer a Yoruba christian to a Hausa Muslim even if he is a Muslim himself. Culture( i do not mean atheism) comes before religion and this is the bond in a progressive society. Yoruba people are used to polytheism even in the days of idol worship, many families have different gods and communities and regions have different gods, and the entire race have general gods but all believed in a God - Olodumare, Olorun to which they subscribed as the ultimate God whom other gods are His messengers.
Today, the same scenario is playing out and the people accept this plurality of beliefs or at least accept it as part of the society. Yoruba people have the highest rates of muslims becoming christains|(converts) in Nigeria, maybe in the world but no hell is letting lose as a result. Many erstwhile christain orthodox members are pentecostal leaders today. I believe its a reflection of the social advancement of the Yoruba and this is a lesson to other parts of Africa.
PoliticsRe: Delete This Topic by mandarin: 8:53am On Mar 14, 2013
killayut: Nigeria is solidly blessed with lots of resources although mismanaged by government. We also know that the various states are indirectly financed by Governemnt via what they call statutory allocation making most of the states parasite states wholly dependent on the Niger Delta states resources. Even the state of Lagos gets its bulk finances from the federal government through the huge Igbo population it has that gave it a good proportion of that 9 million people which makes it gets large sum from the federal allocation on the basis of statutory allocation based on population. With sincerity can somebody prove to us the Richest state of the federal Republic of Nigeria ?
Permit me to say that you did not do your analysis well to come to this conclusion. You must understand that Igbo are not the only people doing business in Lagos. Lagos is a cosmopolitan city working toward becoming a global player just like London. It is within the Yoruba geographically just as London in England within the United Kingdom. Anyone can come and do business and even live in the city.Lagos make so much money not from Igbo people but from all residents and those doing business in the city just as it is anywhere in the world.Lagos with its present IGR is capable of doing well and if the Federal revenue should be added to its sprawling informal sector we can be looking at a GDP of over $60 billion.My dear friend, I don't think an ordinary Igbo man or Hausa man making money in Lagos think the way you do. Delta, Bayelsa ,Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Ondo, Cross River are states with huge potentials but potential don't lie in resources alone, it lies inside the mind(brain) of man and that is why states like Oyo, Ogun, Imo, Anambra and Abia has huge potential not to mention others as Ekiti and Edo that can achieve middle class economy for their citizens through human capital developments.
PoliticsRe: Delete This Topic by mandarin: 6:40pm On Mar 13, 2013
Sometimes I read with amusement some comments made by supposed Nigerian youths, I really want to believe majority do not share your beliefs, hopes and may be expectations.
Its saddening Nigeria has degenerated into an ethnic cocoon across its various geopolitical zones but as much as I detest commenting on ethnic-sectional topical issues as this the issue of Nigeria is worth discussing however in a more intellectual way.
I don't think a break up through wars or any form of civil strife or confrontation is what will solve Nigeria's problems or make life better, after all you never can tell the type of leaders that will rise;imagine today governors buying super luxury cars et al.I think Nigeria can look toward a COMMONWEALTH FEDERAL REPUBLICS structure in which we will have large and small entities the number of which will be determined by the desire of the people themselves to forge a common nationhood.I think for the major ethnic groups to easily merge into regions will be easier than getting a number of smaller groups form a super structure, but this is also achievable though through negotiations.
If I can deduce,it may therefore for cultural and economic reasons be easy for Yoruba & Igbo people to form superstructures but there will still be flash points when considering claims and counter claims in states like Delta(depending on what decisions are taken by such groups as Olukunmi, Itshekiri, Ijaw,Akoko-Edo, Anioma, Isoko and Urhobo regarding their own affiliations or self determination)The Hausa/Fulani do not own the entire Northern Nigeria as it is the make belief of some online commentators but it will be challenging having an Hausa/Fulani region as it will not be as easy as the time od the Sardauna.Political differences has played a wider role in splitting the northern mind over the years and you can expect series of discords which will take long years to resolve. Then we will be confronted by how the remaining groups of Middle Belt and Niger Delta will organize themselves if we can have the greater Kanuriland in the North east to be a region.
While it may look so easy now that Niger Deltans can forge a region, but with massive corruption in Nigerian system already working also in that region we may have a hell of massive disputes. I think the Ijaws deserve and will get a region of their own but will be surprised by their new much reduced map, many groups will rise to lay claim to oil fields and they may be force to be contented with areas where they have landmass to support their maritime claims.
More importantly will be the challenges to be faced by groups a s the Ikwerre, Ogoni Bonny and co unless they merge with bigger groups and forge their own semi autonomous communities or principalities or Nigeria may end up with over 250 of such divisions.
If however such small groups should negotiate their autonomy within a larger groups arranged into a workable unions , we can have as low as 15 regions. By allowing for economic and resource control across regions will immediately skewed the map into wealthy and poor regions but through a levied mutually agreed federal tax the central government can give aids to perceived poor regions.This system I believe will trigger serious competitions across the country and it will also give people or cultures leverages across the commonwealth to assert themselves. There is nothing wrong with for instance an Hausa/Fulani region to run a sharia system or a region to pursue a socialist -welfare state while other going with capitalism, no one will teach monkey to peel banana after all Cuba is today venturing into private ownership of businesses, economic challenges will cause many to change their systems over time.
Nigeria will be better rather than any Biafra or whatever name is being proposed. I think proponents of any republic can forge themselves into an autonomous region, after all we can have a Biafra Region in Nigeria, Hy not? it will at least save us money in propagating wars and add to our developments.
PoliticsRe: Who Would You Suggest From The South East As A Sole Presidential Candidate? by mandarin: 6:35pm On Mar 13, 2013
I really think anyone from any part of Nigeria can be President but if I can consider the usual Nigerian permutation and of course this may change)with APC or whatever its to be called; if it should work I don't think President Jonathan will return to Aso rock, he will not have the larger part of Nigeria behind him. But it all depends on who APC chose as its candidates. If the party should root for a north west combination as been touted, it may not favor Mr. President.
It depends on the type of leader that politicians want but from the north there are many good candidates: Tambuwal/Oshiomole combination may be a killer . If I am to move out of political terrain then I can begin to do a lot of combinations from the South i will root for Fashola/Ezekwezeli or Oshiomole/Tambuwal I think this combination will hurt Mr President a lot.
PoliticsRe: Who Would You Suggest From The South East As A Sole Presidential Candidate? by mandarin: 6:15pm On Mar 13, 2013
Sometimes I read with amusement some comments made by supposed Nigerian youths, I really want to believe majority do not share your beliefs, hopes and may be expectations.
Its saddening Nigeria has degenerated into an ethnic cocoon across its various geopolitical zones but as much as I detest commenting on ethnic-sectional topical issues as this the issue of Nigeria is worth discussing however in a more intellectual way.
I don't think a break up through wars or any form of civil strife or confrontation is what will solve Nigeria's problems or make life better, after all you never can tell the type of leaders that will rise;imagine today governors buying super luxury cars et al.I think Nigeria can look toward a COMMONWEALTH FEDERAL REPUBLICS structure in which we will have large and small entities the number of which will be determined by the desire of the people themselves to forge a common nationhood.I think for the major ethnic groups to easily merge into regions will be easier than getting a number of smaller groups form a super structure, but this is also achievable though through negotiations.
If I can deduce,it may therefore for cultural and economic reasons be easy for Yoruba & Igbo people to form superstructures but there will still be flash points when considering claims and counter claims in states like Delta(depending on what decisions are taken by such groups as Olukunmi, Itshekiri, Ijaw,Akoko-Edo, Anioma, Isoko and Urhobo regarding their own affiliations or self determination)The Hausa/Fulani do not own the entire Northern Nigeria as it is the make belief of some online commentators but it will be challenging having an Hausa/Fulani region as it will not be as easy as the time od the Sardauna.Political differences has played a wider role in splitting the northern mind over the years and you can expect series of discords which will take long years to resolve. Then we will be confronted by how the remaining groups of Middle Belt and Niger Delta will organize themselves if we can have the greater Kanuriland in the North east to be a region.
While it may look so easy now that Niger Deltans can forge a region, but with massive corruption in Nigerian system already working also in that region we may have a hell of massive disputes. I think the Ijaws deserve and will get a region of their own but will be surprised by their new much reduced map, many groups will rise to lay claim to oil fields and they may be force to be contented with areas where they have landmass to support their maritime claims.
More importantly will be the challenges to be faced by groups a s the Ikwerre, Ogoni Bonny and co unless they merge with bigger groups and forge their own semi autonomous communities or principalities or Nigeria may end up with over 250 of such divisions.
If however such small groups should negotiate their autonomy within a larger groups arranged into a workable unions , we can have as low as 15 regions. By allowing for economic and resource control across regions will immediately skewed the map into wealthy and poor regions but through a levied mutually agreed federal tax the central government can give aids to perceived poor regions.This system I believe will trigger serious competitions across the country and it will also give people or cultures leverages across the commonwealth to assert themselves. There is nothing wrong with for instance an Hausa/Fulani region to run a sharia system or a region to pursue a socialist -welfare state while other going with capitalism, no one will teach monkey to peel banana after all Cuba is today venturing into private ownership of businesses, economic challenges will cause many to change their systems over time.
Nigeria will be better rather than any Biafra or whatever name is being proposed. I think proponents of any republic can forge themselves into an autonomous region, after all we can have a Biafra Region in Nigeria, Hy not? it will at least save us money in propagating wars and add to our developments.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Is PDP’s Sole Presidential Candidate For 2015, Clark Tells Northern Govs by mandarin: 6:14pm On Mar 13, 2013
Sometimes I read with amusement some comments made by supposed Nigerian youths, I really want to believe majority do not share your beliefs, hopes and may be expectations.
Its saddening Nigeria has degenerated into an ethnic cocoon across its various geopolitical zones but as much as I detest commenting on ethnic-sectional topical issues as this the issue of Nigeria is worth discussing however in a more intellectual way.
I don't think a break up through wars or any form of civil strife or confrontation is what will solve Nigeria's problems or make life better, after all you never can tell the type of leaders that will rise;imagine today governors buying super luxury cars et al.I think Nigeria can look toward a COMMONWEALTH FEDERAL REPUBLICS structure in which we will have large and small entities the number of which will be determined by the desire of the people themselves to forge a common nationhood.I think for the major ethnic groups to easily merge into regions will be easier than getting a number of smaller groups form a super structure, but this is also achievable though through negotiations.
If I can deduce,it may therefore for cultural and economic reasons be easy for Yoruba & Igbo people to form superstructures but there will still be flash points when considering claims and counter claims in states like Delta(depending on what decisions are taken by such groups as Olukunmi, Itshekiri, Ijaw,Akoko-Edo, Anioma, Isoko and Urhobo regarding their own affiliations or self determination)The Hausa/Fulani do not own the entire Northern Nigeria as it is the make belief of some online commentators but it will be challenging having an Hausa/Fulani region as it will not be as easy as the time od the Sardauna.Political differences has played a wider role in splitting the northern mind over the years and you can expect series of discords which will take long years to resolve. Then we will be confronted by how the remaining groups of Middle Belt and Niger Delta will organize themselves if we can have the greater Kanuriland in the North east to be a region.
While it may look so easy now that Niger Deltans can forge a region, but with massive corruption in Nigerian system already working also in that region we may have a hell of massive disputes. I think the Ijaws deserve and will get a region of their own but will be surprised by their new much reduced map, many groups will rise to lay claim to oil fields and they may be force to be contented with areas where they have landmass to support their maritime claims.
More importantly will be the challenges to be faced by groups a s the Ikwerre, Ogoni Bonny and co unless they merge with bigger groups and forge their own semi autonomous communities or principalities or Nigeria may end up with over 250 of such divisions.
If however such small groups should negotiate their autonomy within a larger groups arranged into a workable unions , we can have as low as 15 regions. By allowing for economic and resource control across regions will immediately skewed the map into wealthy and poor regions but through a levied mutually agreed federal tax the central government can give aids to perceived poor regions.This system I believe will trigger serious competitions across the country and it will also give people or cultures leverages across the commonwealth to assert themselves. There is nothing wrong with for instance an Hausa/Fulani region to run a sharia system or a region to pursue a socialist -welfare state while other going with capitalism, no one will teach monkey to peel banana after all Cuba is today venturing into private ownership of businesses, economic challenges will cause many to change their systems over time.
Nigeria will be better rather than any Biafra or whatever name is being proposed. I think proponents of any republic can forge themselves into an autonomous region, after all we can have a Biafra Region in Nigeria, Hy not? it will at least save us money in propagating wars and add to our developments.
PoliticsRe: Breaking News: Council Of State grants Diya, Bulama, Yar'adua pardon by mandarin: 5:55pm On Mar 12, 2013
i don't know what the government or all those here are trying to prove. We have not been informed how reformed Alams has become and if he is clean now he should go back to Europe to clear his name. This government is not encouraging youths to do what is good as details of Alams pardon will become clear as political strategy against 2015, my opinion though.
NYSCRe: The Newly Acquired Rccf Kaduna Family Estate, A Haven And A Shiloh by mandarin: 5:45pm On Jan 28, 2013
I congratulate you all may GOD continue to reward all your efforts

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