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totit:
Flawed you wrote because it's not UNDP and UN?

Now tell me why should your link be consider then?

Secondly, why not consider the questions raised my kaakulator3 if you are sure of your link since the link you provided prompted that questions?

Here again, is his questions :


Do you agree Taraba,Jigawa,Katsina,Yobe and Kebbi are more economically viable than all South-east states?

Do you agree these states are more economically viable than Akwa-Ibom,Cross-River and Bayelsa?




Mind you, whatever you answer might be will expose whose link is legit and indeed if you believe in your so called link?

Waiting

You need your head examined. No where in those stats was it indicated that Taraba or Katsina is more economically sustainable than the SE.

You have lost it.

The OPHID report is flawed because it is not in tandem with reality on ground.

My guess on how they arrived at Osun being the least poverty stricken state is by taking cognizance of Osun formally employed populace, who were mainly employed by the government, those type of stats are easily obtained, Osun has no informal sector, everybody works for the government, giving a false impression of high employment rate, when in truth, Osun had an overbloated government work force solely dependent on ND petroldollars that came as monthly allocation, and on aggressive interest loans.

If crude oil prices didn't crash, Osun would continue posting ridiculous GDP and IGR stats to cover her overbloated civil service and complete reliance on FG monthly allocation, while gullible Yorubas cheer on, but with crash in crude oil, Osun's overbloated civil service and lack of informal sector became exposed.
https://www.nairaland.com/2529594/yoruba-citizens-sent-south-east

Above is Osun learning the need for a robust informal sector.

In contrast, the SE has a very vibrant informal sector, that would be very hard to access by Oxford, for how do you explain to them that a supposedly unemployed Igbo apprentice in Ogbete market, makes more money daily from extra charges he adds to his Oga goods than a minimum wage earning civil servant?

Only a micro economics assessment that takes real cognizance of these, like the one conducted by NAPEP https://www.nairaland.com/554457/anambra-poverty-rate-lowest-nigeriaand CBN can give a better picture of poverty rate stats.:

totit:
His link proved you right after all :

REGIONAL AVERAGES
1 = South West - 19.3% Poverty (+ Average)
2 = South South - 25.2% Poverty (+ Average)
3 = South East - 27.36% Poverty (+ Average)

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** National Avg 46.0%% Poverty
----------------------------------------------------------------------

4 = North Central - 45.7% Poverty (+Average)
5 = North East - 76.8% Poverty (- Average)
6 = North West- 80.9% Poverty (- Average) Damn!!

Sources
The Global Multidimensional Poverty Index by the U.N
http://www.dataforall.org/dashboard/ophi/index.php/
Click on Nigeria, and then "Nigeria country briefing, from the dropdown menu".
http://www.ophi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Multidimensional-Poverty-Index-2015-2-March-2015.pdf?0a8fd7&13666f

That thread was opened by the Yoruba man Scholes0, those stats where debunked and eviscerated by Igbo contingents in that thread, by using the superior stats the MDGs :.: https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment

And for the umpteenth time, that OPHI stat was not conducted by the UNDP or UN, it was conducted by the Oxford university, and is obviously flawed, if you really went through the thread link I provided, you would have seen why it's flawed.

kaakulator3:
Lmaooo you didn't even answer my question just like your Iddiotic brother Ikeg or whatever he calls himself
Going by what's on that thread, the North is obviously the most economically viable region

I repeat, do you agree Taraba,Jigawa,Katsina,Yobe and Kebbi are more economically viable than all South-east states?

Do you agree these states are more economically viable than Akwa-Ibom,Cross-River and Bayelsa?

Yes or No.No need to type epistles

No where was is stated that the North is more economically viable than SE in that thread, you have lost it.

kaakulator3:
Bro you have issues ooo What else do you want to be shown

You keep on using that thread as a reference

Okay do you agree Taraba,Jigawa,Katsina,Yobe and Kebbi are more economically viable than all South-east states?

A yes or no is all I want. Thanks

Only SS is more economically viable than SE and the reason is not far fetched.

Yes, I will keep referencing that thread, cause it dealth severely with your falsehoods, even Osun previously inflated IGR couldn't stand the test of fire, once the dwindling oil prices started biting them, Aregbesola had to come out clean to tell the world what Osun GDP is really, and why it won't be enough to sustain the state.

Ritchiee:
You are really a stubborn goat.Give me different links maybe from world bank or UNO...UNDP.We gave you links,you said they were lagos-ibadan media but because I know truth permeates I went to World bank and brought the same thing,went to UNDP...UNO report encompassing 101 developing countries,you still called these neutral links propaganda...lol
These people do not know whether you are Yoruba,Hausa or Igbo,they give you the raw data.
I think you have lost it sir.
This is a comprehensive one from UNDP..UNO..OPHI.Just click the nation you are interested in and learn about the criteria they used and so on:

Global MPI Interactive Databank
The Global Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI)
Interactive Databank enables you to see at a glance
results of OPHI's 2015 analysis of acute poverty in
101 developing countries around the world. Select
‘Graph’ (below right) to see how these countries
and their sub-national regions rank for
multidimensional poverty and destitution.
Click on a country in the map below to see how its
MPI compares with other indicators, or select a
country from the drop-down menu to load
interactive graphs that enable you to zoom in and
see where and how people are poor and destitute;
subnational data is available for 78 countries, and
time-series data for 34.
Global MPI data are freely available and we
welcome their use
; please cite as Oxford Poverty and Human
Development Initiative (2015) Global
Multidimensional Poverty Index Databank. OPHI,
University of Oxford
Select Country
Download Country Data Download
The boundaries and names shown and the
designations used on this map do not imply official
endorsement or acceptance by OPHI or the
University of Oxford. This map is intended for
illustrative purposes only.
Complementary data are taken from the closest
available year to the year of the survey used to
calculate the MPI. Income poverty is only shown
where the data available are taken from a survey
fielded within three years of the MPI survey year.

http://www.dataforall.org/dashboard/ophi/index.php/

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS THEN YOUR MEDULLA OBLONGATA NEEDS TO BE EXAMINED.

That research was done by Oxford university and not by UNDP, and the flaws in their research were made bare by a more authentic MDGs attainment result which is more in consonance with the reality on ground.
.: https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment

That Oxford university study was published in a UNDP report and was not conducted by UNDP or UN, and the flaws inherent in that study was well highlighted in this thread. by Igbo posters there.

You can't give what you don't have. SW being less economically viable than SE cannot have lower poverty index than SE.: https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment


https://www.nairaland.com/2418994/ranking-nigerian-states-poverty-rates/9. See Igbo contingents demolish those flawed stats there

kaakulator3:
Is this one okay at all? You know right-thinking Igbos can kill you for that statement right?

How can you compare a region where the civil service workforce isn't much since most are traders
to a region where the civil service workforce is huge.Are you okay at all?

Do you know how many Igbos are teaching in schools all over the south-west? How many Yorubas are on the
payroll of your governments

You lots leave your erosion-ravaged region to make things difficult for other regions, then you come back and start forming
statistics

Bla bla! Unfortunately, the facts don't bend to accommodate your fantasy, they are brutal and unforgiving, deal with them: https://www.nairaland.com/2732630

SW is the least economically viable region in the South despite having received a double share of the South allocation right from the colonial days to the Post civil war era.

The shame of a nation, starring right at them, no place to hide from the harsh reality:https://www.nairaland.com/2732630

Ritchiee:
lol...always deluded...


http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/nigeria/publication/nigeria-economic-report-improved-economic-outlook-in-2014-and-prospects-for-continued-growth-look-good

SW should be taken into account when you read that report.Maybe world bank is lying too...lol



https://www.nairaland.com/2418994/ranking-nigerian-states-poverty-rates


http://www.dataforall.org/dashboard/ophi/index.php/

UNDP...UNO too are Lagos-Ibadan media and they are full of propaganda...lol


Your name is delusion unlimited...lol
Go bury your head in shame.;sir...lol

Lol! You are the deluded one. That poverty index report was not done by UNDP and was roundly debunked and eviscerated in that thread by pazienza and other Igbo posters there.

Here are real stats on the MDGs,SW as usual is competing with the North.: https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment
You should be ashamed of your region.

And yes, the below stats remain a bench mark to determining how viable SE and SW are, and not your fantasies you spread in your Ibadan-Lagos:
https://www.nairaland.com/2732630

Your first link speaks of "prospects", but the above link speaks of the reality: Despite the fact the SW had engulfed greater percentage of Nigeria's commonwealth than any part of better South, SW remains least economically viable and highly indebted region.

PentiumPro:

Dude, are you for real?
See how they decimated the guy with reckless abandon and you still have the guts to cheerlead him into a final demise on NL .

Ikechukwu argument is laden with facts from neutral non Igbo links. All you lots have been doing was recycling you Lagos-Ibadan media propaganda who have no credible source.

It's so clear to the blind that just a single Igbo warrior had you lots cornered and brutalized by veritable facts, so much that you had to resort to your Yoruba mods to ban him for no just cause

RockHard:
Be honest with yourself. He didn't decimate anything. He failed to prove that any substancial contribution emanates from the Eastern region to the non-oil sectors. Unfortunately, Yam and Cassava don't feature on any list of foreign exchange earners because unlike other Yam exporting countries like the Ivory Coast and Ghana, Nigerian Yams cultivation practices do not meet international standards that would enable substancial exports. I have perused data from IMF, OEC, and United States Embassy factsheet on Nigerian exports, and his arguments don't feature.

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/nigeria/231771/Public/December-TradeFactSheet.pdf
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/nga/
https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2015/cr1585.pdf

Ikechukwu had provided credible links to show how very little the SW produce. Apart from Cocoa, which it's return was inflated by SW propaganda media, SE beat SW in all other export cash crops.

That very fact that SE is economically more viable and sustainable than SW had been proved beyond reasonable doubts by these brutal facts: https://www.nairaland.com/2732630

But in a classical drowning man syndrome, you lots won't accept you place and work to catch up to the better south, since it's obvious you lots are way backward.

Ikechukwu, Job well done, with a well stocked Arsenal of facts and figures, you decimated their lies and propaganda and left them clutching at ad hominem attacks.


What an exhilarating performance, a real Ekumeku e- war general you are, Odogwu Agu Dike!

Ritchiee:
What are you sweating for,dude?SW was the most productive in the 60s and still the most productive till date with the exception of oil.Why give yourself HBP for nothing sake?Okay read this :

destinations-in-2014/
Ogun, Ikeja top manufacturers’ investment
destinations in 2014
While Ogun, which is now Nigeria’s
industrial hub, recorded N377 billion worth
of investments within the period, Ikeja
returned investments worth N39.86 billion.
Ogun State’s represents 78 percent of N483
billion worth of investments made in the
whole of the manufacturing sector within the
period under review, while Ikeja shares 8.3
percent.
“This has revealed that the majority of
manufacturing investments were directed
towards Ogun industrial axis, which consists
of Otta, Agbara, Ibafo/Mowe and Shagamu
industrial areas,” said MAN, in its latest
January to July 2014 economic review.
....
The data further show investments in Kano/
Sharada/Challawa as N19.75 billion and
those of Oyo/Ondo/Osun/Ekiti as N19.2
billion within the period under review.
Anambra/Enugu that had N5.5 billion worth
of investments.
while those of Imo/Abia were estimated at
N309 million.

http://businessdayonline.com/2015/02/ogun-ikeja-top-manufacturers-investment-destinations-in-2014/

So much lies and propaganda, yet this https://www.nairaland.com/2732630, is the reality of things.

Enyeama is an Ibibio man, he is not Igbo speaking. So he is right to say that he is not an Igbo man, cos truly speaking, he isn't.

"If Isiguzoro wants to be taken seriously, why not organize pro-One-Nigeria solidarity march across South East States".

LoveDecay:
I think I have figure out - I confidently believe I have gotten that eureka moment regarding the East's Biafran fracas.

The east simply like a woman is looking for attention.

You statements like - they don't like us but are begging us to stay.
OR

You statements like this - ibos have advantage over Nigerians

OR

the latest - the 1966 coup was not motivated by tribalism - other parts of the country where involved

The east really just wants a hug. And is not emotionally evolved to ask for one. I remember making a post reminding the easterners - they are Nigerians and are such have the divine and legal right to demand a fair treatment if they believe they have been treated unfairly (credible evidence must be available)

If they can simply do this , other Nigerians will speak on their behalf and certainly these perceived unfair treatments will be alleviated.

But no, they want to fight. It's like racism in America - majority despise it but there is still a group that still feels the need to be racist because its all they know. It's how they respond to their environment and it helps them maintain balance and provide the fuel they need to go about their day to day business. It's a pity, but that group of people are pretty close to their graves.

The east has this same issue - its sickening here because this same physiological flaw in connecting with people different than you are is been transferred from mother and father to child.

So many words, yet not a single sense.

Ritchiee:
It is an Igboland thingy.MAKE UNA CARRY UNA CHOLERA AND DIARRHOEA COMMOT FOR SW.
Na una load.Make una bend down carry am...lol


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-east/185669-8-die-in-fresh-cholera-outbreak-in-ebonyi.html

I can get 20 cholera outbreak links in different parts of Yoruba. So it's pointless.

Good a thing he is not Igbo. No one want to be associated with a failure, after all!

Keshi all the way, the Nigerian Felipe Scolari ( Won world cup with Brazil when no one saw them as favourites)

Ritchiee:
NA DIARRHOEA DEY WORRY YOU...lol


http://m.news24.com/nigeria/National/News/diarrhoea-outbreak-kills-30-children-in-imo-20160226

I guess you all in Yorubaland are very experienced in Diarrhoea things.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/05/cholera-outbreak-hits-ogun-20-hospitalised/

theDEVILisHERE:
This idiot called Bat abi Rat utomi should just shut he's dirty mouth up

Is he not among the people who supported and brought in this present terrorist Government into power

Now he is here talking crap about 1980 nonsense

Double speaking turn coat people are the worst set of human beings any one can have around them

Rubbish!

I tell you. The Man has no shame.

He was one of the people that sang Buhari praises to high heavens and turned his back on GEJ.

Now thing, are going rough for Buhari, and like a fair weather friend, he wants to bolt.

Nansense!

This thread could actually be explored, without mentioning and bringing in SW into Igbo matta!

I don't know why some Igbos here felt the need to mention SW here.

There was never a time Ndiigbo rejected Nigeria. What we rejected was an Arewa and Yoruba fancied Nigeria.
We rejected Nigeria as fancied by the North and SW.


And nothing has changed.

Ohaneze Ndiigbo is simply playing to the gallery. You don't expect them to say no to one Nigeria, Ndiigbo had never said no to one Nigeria, we simply said no to the Arewa-Odua fancied one Nigeria.

Our position had always been and remain a completely restructured Nigeria where each region is 100% independent of the next region and have 100% or there about control over its resources and affairs.

That have never changed till now, that was a Nigeria Ojukwu demanded, and that is the only Nigeria that will stop Igbo demand for secession, everything else is waste of time.

I am sure Ohanaeze and their Arewa guests are well aware of this.

SW and propaganda sef

https://www.nairaland.com/2913833/again-south-east-leads-wassce-performance



https://www.nairaland.com/2732630

: https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment

papparatzzi2013:
How shallow can you be?

The president just commissioned 40 projects financed by that debt. Those projects will keep making Ogun State the number 1 investment destination and most industrialized state in Nigeria.

Having debt is not a sin. Show me any developed country without sovereign debt. Just 1.

Another propaganda with no substance.

All available indices and stats show that Ogun doesn't fare better than other southern states.

Ogun doesn't lead in education, she don't have better infrastructures, her IGR is not better than other southern states, her citizens doesn't have better life standard as shown by the MDGs.

Ogun has nothing to show for her high debt profile, a clear sign of mismanagement and embezzlement of public fund.

papparatzzi2013:
Have we all forgotten that Madam Ngozi was the Prime Minister under GEJ, as the Co-ordinating Minister. She practically had all powers a much as the President by overseeing all ministries.

That woman failed woeful. She is either an agent of the neo-colonialist that were hell bent in seeing the demise of the blossoming emerging economies of the BRICS or she was simply a paper economist.

Her first tenure achievements has elucidated by Soludo, was the work of a team of Muktar, Soludo, El Rufai, Moghalu and NOI. With the team not in place in her 2nd sojourn as the Min of Finance an dCo-oridnating Minister, she was totally clueless.

Kemi, inconjunction with FIRS, will increase the revenue of the country. We can see it and feel it already. She might not increase our capacity to earn FX, but definitely Nigeria will not be broke and we shall be better off than the mess NOI left behind.

Kemi, with the anti-corruption war of Mr President, will definitely bring sanity into civil service and procurement process.

NOI came with a name and left behind an econom in ruins. kemi definitely do not have the pedigree but she will deliver. I careless abot pedigree once she delivers.]

]I will judge by the end of 2016. We are watching.

Adeosun was the commissioner for finance in Ogun when the state allocation from the FG was at all time high, but left the state at great debt and economically less viable than states that earned less from the FG like Enugu state. Throw in Ogun's proximity to Lagos, and Adeosun's failure becomes even more glaring.

It's only in Nigeria tribally charged political arena that failures like Adeosun who couldn't fix small ogun, is given a bigger job of fixing Nigeria.

semasir:
Too hard a talk........ Pls don't call the igbo such names! I'm not one of them but promote one Nigeria if you really want to aim high.

Lol!

Gbawe:
Why are some of you so dishonest and so ethically bankrupt to the extent you are always willing to ignore the factual truth to then be postulating your own wild fantasies? What on earth, even in your wild fantasy world, makes the SE the most prepared region to "adjust to life after the end of money spinning era of petroleum"? Do you actually understand what natural and human resources endowment is that puts the SW in good stead to be the most successful region if it were on its own?

To give you 'fluid' examples even a child can understand Do you know that Cocoa, produced in the SW, is Nigeria's second biggest foreign exchange earner after oil?

Do you understand that the service sector is one of the most important to the economy of Nigeria and that the SW alone is responsible for 55% contribution to this vital sector? Do you know what the SW contribute as well to Agriculture and Industry which are the two other biggest contributors to GDP after the service sector? I leave that as your homework of the day.

http://dawncommission.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Southwest-Economic-Trend-Recall-2015.pdf



See below for further proof:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nigeria



With all these overwhelming factual evidence the SW will very okay without oil and without the rest of Nigeria you guys continue to speak crap and pull tales of mythical greatness, based on nothing, out of some drk place where the Sun does not shine. Lawd you guys are something else !!!!They have shown you the statistics, facts and indisputable argument many times and in many different ways yet you guys still come here with your riff-raff fantasies and delusions about some 'greatness' reality does not bear out. Continue wallowing in your delusions and baseless chest-beating. It is what people like you, to your own detriment, are now famous for.

http://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS7879.htm

Sorry!

I deal with facts and stats, not jaundiced, biased and tribally motivated opinions like the one you just copied and pasted.

https://www.nairaland.com/2913833/again-south-east-leads-wassce-performance

This shows that the SE has the most educated and cerebral citizens, a recipe for building a great nation.

https://www.nairaland.com/2732630/lates

The above shows that the SE receives the least from the FG, yet remain more economically viable than the North and SW.
A factor that shows that the SE benefits least from Petrodollars, and will be relatively less hit economically Post crude oil era.

: https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment

The above shows how more advanced the SE is in uplifting her citizens than the North and SW, another pointer to why the Igbo nation will be a great independent one.

https://www.nairaland.com/2522113/omitted-truth-debunking-lies...nigeria-states

The above highlights how agriculturally strong the SE is, with a cerebral and educated populace, SE agricultural sector can only grow bigger.

www.nairaland.com/2031155/enugu-makes-history-joins-worlds

Look above, it's the great Igbo city, rising fRom the ruins of Nigerian civil war destruction, still reborn like a Phoenix, standing tall in the midst of envious Nigerian groups, showing the great Igbo resilience in the midst of adversity.

You see? I deal only on stats and facts.

.

Hmm!

Say no more. Deal with stats and facts. Only SS is economically more viable and solvent than SE, and the good news is that part of Igboland is in SS too
And fun fact is, the SE receive the least amount of allocation from the FG yet remain more economically viable than regions that gulp more of the SS petroldollars in terms of direct FG allocation and projects, in addition to petroleum directly and indirectly linked public and private sector investments.


What this means is that the SE more than any other Nigerian region is more prepared to adjust to life after the end of money spinning era of petroleum.


https://www.nairaland.com/2732630/lates

Now, in the light of the above fact and stat, can we now close down this thread, and let the envious ones leak their wounds?

"You claim you had empires that cut across Nigeria, Togo and Benin. Why are the Yorubas in these countries not outstanding to project the countries to limelight? Same situation is applicable to the Hausas, Fulanis and Kanuris in Niger, Mali, Cameroon, Ghana and some other African countries"

Greater words of truth had never be spoken.

It's obvious why they are clinging tight to one Nigeria, their survival as a people depend on one Nigeria.

"Do you know that even Mandela of blessed memory for his people within the ambits of the law"

Ignorance at its peak. No freedom fighter keeps the laws of the oppressors, the laws of the oppressors are usually in in direct conflict with the demand of the oppressed for freedom.

Question for you, if Mandela and other ANC fighters kept the laws of the oppressors, why and how exactly did they end up in jail?

And do us a favour, be proud of wherever you came from, stop claiming Igbo, Igbos don't need to shout they are Igbo.

"These states have something going for them, the standard living of their people is benefecial that immigrants even come over for better living. Be truthful, how benefecial is igbo-land currently to immigrants from neighbouring country like ghana"

What message were you trying to convey with the above line?

That other parts of Nigeria are beneficial to migrants, but Igboland isn't, therefore Igboland must not be economically viable for people not to be migrating there, and since it isn't economically viable, it couldn't survive as an independent nation outside Nigeria as an entity?


If the above isn't the point you were trying to pass across, correct me.