₦airaland Forum

CSTR2:
And if i ask you to defend your one naijeria stance and how it is better for ndi-igbo than if they pursue their own destiny, you would end up giving me alcohol -induced, oluwole theories.
You and your people can chose one naijeria. Nobody cares.
Trying to decide or foster your own pecuilar desires on a great and educated ethnic like the igbo is insulting.

Very well said.

Those are the real enemies of Igboland. Igbo with deeply entrenched interest/ investments in non Igbo parts of Nigeria, they would sacrifice themselves if it means protecting Nigeria's unity, which they reason as a pre requisite for the security of their investments.

They have no patriotism whatsoever for Igboland, for how can they not see that Igboland and it's teeming youths need such massive investments and employment opportunities? Can't they make just a little initial sacrifice for the benefit of the future?

Surely, Chukwu bu eze, and will disgrace them all in the end, we will laugh at their sob stories, at the appointed time.

Aufbauh:
Do you see why we say Igbo is different from ipob.
Ipob is characterized by warped mentality and foul speech.
Even on nairaland you can easily identify an IPOBian from his gullibility, intolerance, bitterness and mischief.
I see them as people not different from the Boko haram faithful except that the IPOBians hardly lack the gut to carry a suicide bombing vex instead he prefer online vexation and street protest.

One thing is sure, most people that hate IPOB, are equally Igbo haters.

So, save yourselves the bullcrap.

semitunde:
Just like nobody can tell fulanis grazing your land with 5000 cattle how to live their lives. Its their culture too and if you don't like it you can go and die ( actually they can help you with the dieing part by shooting you dead).

Comparing two unrelated scenarios, you are mischievous.

HalfTruth:
Lagos was a thriving economy under cocoa exportation before it became a megacity. It became a megacity under Yoruba governors' guidance. Yoruba brain is something gull-igbos will never achieve. Which help is Ogun gaining from FG? Aba and Onitsha both claim to be the biggest market in Africa, what do they have to show for it? Yorubaland has everything Gull-igbos which they had, most importantly, stable land. Given good guidance and leadership, Yorubaland can become the envy of Africa. All we need is more Faholas in Yorubaland.

Lol, Yoruba brain indeed, wonder why this brain never spilled into Osun, Ogun and the rest.

Perhaps tomorrow, Gwari's will tell us how Gwari ingenuity and brain transformed Abuja into a standard city.

Onitsha and Aba are Igbo self made urban centres, and they are doing fine.

HalfTruth:
What's stopping Abuja from gaining the same reputation? Mind you, Lagos was a booming Yoruba cocoa region before becoming a capital. Igbos and their silly excuse. Ogun state is joining the force. Fear the West.

Lagos is a creation of the British who used resources from all over the better South to develop her and j
Later the FG, who continued the trend of developing Lagos with resources from the better South.

Enugu even having been levelled to the ground after the war, with no special rehabilitation or reconstruction by the FG. has a bigger IGR of 1.6billion, where as your Ogun despite no such adversity as Enugu and even with the advantage of proximity to Lagos can only boast of 1.46 billion in IGR.

Enough of this Yoruba lies.

"Those comparing ph/onne and calabar ports to Lagos are not being honest to themselves too, these other ports are seriously underdeveloped and intentionally rendered uneconomical for business, and the reason reeks with political undertones"

Good points, by the way.

engrkenny:
Building a riverport or whatever name it goes by anywhere inland Nigeria at this point would be irrelevant, economically wasteful and perhaps even unattainable, what the whole of south east and south south Nigeria should be pushing for is the development of a deep commercial seaport on the long virgin shoreline of akwaibom. Those comparing ph/onne and calabar ports to Lagos are not being honest to themselves too, these other ports are seriously underdeveloped and intentionally rendered uneconomical for business, and the reason reeks with political undertones. Locating a second national port in the south would not stop Lagos or take away the city's potentials, we just need to stop being sectarian and start seeing beyond our noses.

Akwa Ibom sea port is a good idea, and Ndiigbo support it and wish our Akwa Ibom good neighbors all the best in the world.

But Obuaku sea port is a necessity for obvious reasons to Ndiigbo.

Obuaku can exist side by side with the one at Akwa Ibom.

DT he doesn't understand d obsession for a seaport.

And what exactly is this supposed to mean? Please face your front, Ndiigbo don't need the help of any non Easterner ( defunct Eastern region native) to negotiate a successful seaport, they( non Easterners) don't need to understand or question our obsession with a functional sea port at the heart of Igboland in Obuaku.

weedcrusha:
Please I urge everyone not to argue with this dude anymore. He's delusional......Internally Generated Revenue of Anambra is 4.56 million ....That's lower than what a ward in Kebbi makes ......You guys must really be improvished

A typo I was editing while you were quoting it. I had edited the mistakes on the Post.

weedcrusha:
And why is it only on Anambra that he made that unforgivable error. As a matter of fact, not only is the guy an Igbo guy, he must be an Anambra guy

You need your head examined, it's obvious that figure is in millions and not billions, a simple summation of that IGR with the VAT and FAAC gives 4.56 billion which is the average monthly allocation of Anambra state. The mistake of writing 871.19 million as 871.19 billions was an obvious typo that had no effect on the final result of 4.56billion. The joke is on you.

2.94 billion( FAAC) + 753.10 million( VAT) + 871.19 million( IGR) = 4.56 billion( average monthly allocation)

The writing of the IGR as 871.19 billion instead of 871.19 million is an obvious typo that had no influence in the final result of 4.56 billion.

The joke is on you, simple arithmetics, you still don't know.

weedcrusha:
As you can see from the screenshot, Internally Generated Revenue is N871.19bn and Average Monthly Revenue is 4.56bn

Meanwhile, Average Monthly Revenue supposed to equal FAAC Allocation + VAT + Internally Generated Revenue + 13% Share of Derivation

This is just an error observed by glancing through this falsified report. I'm quite sure if I peruse this propaganda, I will point out tens of errors. As you can all see, the report is probably written by an Igbo guy. Though they know how to falsify records and write propaganda, however, they are not so good in doing it because you will surely see flaws if you look well.

Can't you see that that report is flawed. Are you a robot?

You are not making any sense!

The report wasn't prepared by an Igbo.

" The NER then provides an updated analysis of poverty and living standards in Nigeria based on a panel survey of 5,000 households that was carried out in 2010/2011 and 2012/2013 as part of the General Household Survey of the Nigeria National Bureau of Statistics".

This is from your so called World bank stat.

Ritchiee:
THE JOKE IS NOT ON YOU ONLY BUT THE JOKE DON CARRY YOU NACK YOU FOR GROUND COME REMOVE YOUR BRAIN PUT SAWDUST...One of the dumbest Igbos I have ever met

United Nations' Multi Dimensional Poverty Index

The United Nations' Global Multi-Dimensional Poverty Index has three dimensions and 10 indicators in estimating Overall Poverty. Each dimension is equally weighted, each indicator within a dimension is also equally weighted, and added. It uses 10 indicators to measure poverty in three dimensions: Education, Health and Living standards. This report was Published in June 2015, and is based on data collected on years between 2004 and 2014.
According to the MPI Report, as at 2010, 46% of Nigerians lived below the national poverty line (Only 28% in Urban areas, and near 70% in The rural). Although a Report by the World bank, released in 2014, showed that only 33% of Nigerians could be considered Poor.

THIS IS THE ONE FROM UNO...UNDP...OPHI COLLABORATION
States by Incidence of Poverty

STATES<-->POVERTY RATE
1. Lagos --------- 8.5%
2. Osun --------- 10.9%
3. Anambra --------- 11.2%
4. Ekiti --------- 12.9%
5. Edo --------- 19.2%
6. Imo --------- 19.8%
7. Abia --------- 21.0%
8. Rivers --------- 21.1%
*. FCT (Abj) --------- 23.5%
9. Kwara --------- 23.7%
10. Akwa Ibom --------- 23.8%
11. Delta --------- 25.1%
12. Ogun --------- 26.1%
13. Kogi --------- 26.4%
14. Ondo --------- 27.9%
15. Enugu --------- 28.8%
16. Bayelsa --------- 29.0%
17. Oyo --------- 29.4%
18. Cross River --------- 33.1%
-------------------------------------------------------
** National Avg --------- 46.0%
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19. Plateau --------- 51.6%
20. Nassarawa --------- 52.4%
21. Ebonyi --------- 56.0%
22. Kaduna --------- 56.5%
23. Adamawa --------- 59.0%
24. Benue --------- 59.2%
25. Niger --------- 61.2%
26. Borno --------- 70.1%
27. Kano --------- 76.4%
28. Gombe --------- 76.9%
29. Taraba --------- 77.7%
30. Katsina --------- 82.2%
31. Sokoto --------- 85.3%
32. Kebbi --------- 86.0%
33. Bauchi --------- 86.6%
34. Jigawa --------- 88.4%
35. Yobe --------- 90.2%
36. Zamfara --------- 91.9%

REGIONAL AVERAGES
1 = South West - 19.3% Poverty (+ Average)
2 = South South - 25.2% Poverty (+ Average)
3 = South East - 27.36% Poverty (+ Average)

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** National Avg 46.0%% Poverty
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4 = North Central - 45.7% Poverty (+Average)
5 = North East - 76.8% Poverty (- Average)
6 = North West- 80.9% Poverty (- Average) Damn!! shocked

Sources
The Global Multidimensional Poverty Index by the U.N
http://www.dataforall.org/dashboard/ophi/index.php/


THIS IS FROM WORLD BANK
The NER also documents major differences in poverty and living standards by macro-region in Nigeria. While the South of Nigeria has relatively low poverty rates, ranging from 16% in the South West to 28.8% in the South East, poverty rates in the North West and North East are 45.9% and 50.2%, respectively. While the South of Nigeria (especially the South West) has experienced a strong positive dynamic in poverty reduction in recent years, the poverty rate in the North West has remained stagnant, while poverty has actually increased in the North East. Thus, disparities between the North (North West, North East) and South of Nigeria in poverty and living standards have increased. This is no doubt related to the recent security challenges in the Northern part of Nigeria. Explanatory factors for the high differences in living standards by geographical region are likely related to differences in the provision of public services and the degree of connectedness to larger markets.

NER MEANS NIGERIA ECONOMIC REPORT..maybe it is a Yoruba man that owns it...
http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/nigeria/publication/nigeria-economic-report-improved-economic-outlook-in-2014-and-prospects-for-continued-growth-look-good

THIS IS FROM NBS

Poverty was least dominant in the Southwest (49.8%), South-South (55.5%), and South-East regions (59.5%).
Read more: https://www.naij.com/401470-see-the-10-poorest-states-in-nigeria.html

SO ALL OF THEM GANGED UP TO RIDICULE UNA ...NA WAH O.ILLITERACY IS INDEED A DISEASE
THEY ARRIVED AT DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES ALL DEPICTING THAT THE SOUTH EAST IS POVERTY RIDDEN THAN SOUTH/SOUTH AND SOUTH WEST..

The more reason you all run to the best South...

You must be a robot, repeating same thing all over again.

I had already shown where World bank got their figures from, and as for the OPHID, it had already been eviscerated and totally debunked here:

I have no interest going in circles with you. You can believe whatever you want to believe,but the reality remains this:: https://www.nairaland.com/2732630

SW remain the least economically viable region in the South.

It's a bitter pill you must swallow after all had been said and done.

janellemonae:
D point u just made now, is d point d person u quoted also first made: DT he doesn't understand d obsession for a seaport.

Surely there are hundreds of landlocked successful countries. Even in subsaharan africa, Botswana ranks highest on a lot of indices and is landlocked.

Since you( Yorubas) don't understand the Igbo obsession for a sea port, I guess you lots can always close down your Lagos port and use our Obuaku port once the construction is finished, we wouldn't mind, seeing as you lots are not obsessed with Sea ports, we can do with your import duties.

omonnakoda:
You are being childish.
We occupy the same space and spend the same money and you are in our Lagos .
A port may develop at Obuaku but it won't be a seaport that will be with the approval of the Nigerian state only

You are obviously the childish and pained one, dying over a project that has nothing whatsoever to do with your region, just because you are driven strictly by envy and jealousy.

konfessor:
how did his people once betray yours? please enlighten me.

Adaka Boro and some Ijaw people teamed up with the Yorubas and the North, against the land of the rising sun.

We could have done the same to GEJ, by teaming up with his Yoruba and Northern detractors, but we are obviously not vindictive lots, and stuck by a neighbour.

yatty4emmanuel:
sorry if i sound harsh in cause of my expression,but i think most of you igbos have an unforegiving spirit,which is one of the reason you re all dieing in silence with the singular previous thought of the SS betrayed you which is very sentimental.every slite provocation you will all draw your plight to the ss,with a clueless thought of always feeling betrayed which will eat you all up soon without remedy.mind you, the yoruba's & hausa's are not colaborating as though your mentalities suggest,but your sentimental attitudes has actually made these two region seem like they are knitted wereas is wrong.talking of the ss,i wil lik u 2 knw dat dey re a diffrnt ethnic group totally in nigeria & their attitude is special dey re nt bias nor judgemental naturally.in de ss mst parents can nt ask dre child to go church service wit dem etc,so u stop dat rubish u call betrayal because evry1 is entittled to his opinion & choice.so mind your words the ss are nt lik u.if u re feelin betrayd go ask ur parents,abwt de war som areas in de ss durin de war joind biafara & odas nigeria, u ungrateful ingrade.wen biafara losses de war dose places also loss de war, u imp.in de ss evry man is a lord to himself 1st,bt if u can convins him he wil wok wit u,bt nt wit dis ur unforegetful betrayal trash & unending history, go tell this to your eze's dude.

Lol! What exactly are you talking about? What SS are you speaking of? The same one Asaba holds forte in? Was Chukwuma Nzeogwu, the originator of the so called Igbo coup?

There is nothing like SS man, when We have proud Igbos in same SS?

Bro, stop talking trash, I meant GEJ clan, which is politically Ijaw, you will do well to stand out and say your ethnic group than hide behind a blurred term like SS.

Ritchiee:
LET US NO WHO YOU ARE GOING TO BELIEVE (so that I can bring their report concerning poverty in Nigeria )IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THE MAN(MANUFACTURE),UNDP,UNO,WORLD BANK AND NOW THE NBS...
There is no data collected in Nigeria that would not come from NBS if it is going to be authentic.

The MDGS that some of your people were ejaculating on and LOOK WHO IS GOING TO SCHOOL IN NIGERIA...all had the hand of the NBS and you believed them... :olol

READ THIS FROM MDGS TEAM AND NBS:
It is in recognition of this important role of data and in demonstration of the
commitment of the federal government
to meeting the targets of the MDGs, that
National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) commissioned the 2014 MDGs Performance
Tracking Survey. This is the second round of the survey and it is designed to generate specific indicators to monitor progress of the MDGs across the goals. These findings will also help policy makers identify gaps and challenges to the realization of the goals and proffer solutions to ultimately achieve a successful completion of the MDGs targets by 2015. The survey generated several indicators across seven of the eight MDG goals to track progress...


Go and read about YOMI kALE the Tactician General,a staunch member of the PDP and staunch loyalist to Okonjo Iweala who brought him in,maybe that is why he manipulated everything in favour of the SE in LOOK WHO IS GOING TO SCHOOL...


YOU ARE A BAD LOSER,SIR.

The MDGs can't be flawed, because it is in tandem with realities on ground and the criteria they used are measurable criteria that can easily reflect realities.

A poverty rate stat that makes use of bogus criteria, that ended up with Niger state having lesser poverty rate than Anambra, is obviously flawed, that's common sense.

Yes, neither the world bank nor UNDP conducted fresh poverty stats in Nigeria, they used figures directly from the flawed NBS stats.

The Jamb enrollment stat is a self evident stat, it can't be influenced, and it's JAMB that release them, not NBS.

The Joke is on you.

omonnakoda:
Ports will develop at Ibaka and elsewhere.Also existing ones in Rivers and Cross river will be boosted. So this Lagos monopoly is nonsense. Lagos is blessed because its coast is the most favourable in the country

Anyway what is strange is this fixation on ports.. We do not have dollars to import now and need to start producing. If we were only importing machines then we have enough but people are welcome to develop more Still we need to get away from this buying and selling mentality

A port will also develop at Obuaku. And there is no "We" between Ndiigbo and Yorubas, it's more like "They".

Obuaku port in the future will be used to import raw materials for manufacturing industries in Igboland and to export the finished products.

Yes! The fixation with Sea port by Ndiigbo is justified and is a must.

omonnakoda:
Go and start dredging na

Lol, no dredging is likely to happen anytime soon, as long as we still have sizeable number of Igbos comfortable in sharing same nation with enemies of Igbo progress like you and your ilks.

Igboland will continue to depend on Lagos for a long time to come, until they smell the coffee.

So, you should relax and stop having palpitations any time Obuaku sea port is mentioned.
Lagos and her port will retain her monopoly and control of Igbo economic life for atleast next two decades, just enjoy it while it lasts, cos it won't remain so for long.

omonnakoda:
I think that if the State government wants to develop docking berths along the river they should be allowed.I opposed any dredging because of the environmental impact. I think ports should be developed it those states that are contiguous with the sea such as Rivers , Bayelsa Cross River and Akwa Ibom so this is not about Lagos as the usual paranoid mindset suggests. Let ports be developed in those places where it is obvious and rational
The other danger for allowing any dredging is a sets off a precedent if you can dredge to Abia why not to Kogi and Benue and Kwara and Niger and even Niger Republic all of which the Niger flows through.

Let us eschew sentiment. If we need Seaports we can build one in Ogun,Ondo ,Bayelsa,Rivers Cross River and Akwa Ibom .
River ports yes but dredging no .That is where I stand!!

Your stand is irrelevant.
To start with, Obuaku is on Aba and Imo rivers, Two Rivers that started from Igboland and flow into the Atlantic.

Obuaku will be dredged and there is nothing you can do about it. The only hindrance to the project as it stands, is Igbo nationalism and alliance.

cheruv:
The highlight is highly commendable!!!
The length of Imo river btwn obuaku and opobo should be the straits of Hormuz for Igboland... With millions in trade volume going on along this route, I don't think anybody would have need for "Lagos" at all

Ikpeazu is simply throwing publicity stunt. The cost of bringing that Obuaku port into reality will be enormous and cannot be achieved without a pan Igbo nationalistic alliance, something that Ndiigbo currently lack due to selfish interests of the elites.

T.A played same publicity stunt with that project: https://www.nairaland.com/1568347/hmm-abia-state-set-build
Now Okezie is doing his own, I am sure his successor will do the same.

EteEdoho:
Igbo people to whom the project is being sited on their land ain't complaining,why are you so engrossed in anger-overdrive,over the issue.You should av' challenged Aragberascal of osunistan on why he is using a lean-scarce resource of Osun state to build a non viable,unworkable and at best,a useless osun airport?.mtchwww!.

Lol! Don't mind them. See Omonnakoda crying over the same Obuaku project here:https://www.nairaland.com/2330306/functioning-seaport-economic-technological-revolution/1

These are the kind of people whose other people progress gives headache that ignorant Igbos want to share same country with. People that will go extra mile to undermine Igbo progress, rather than work on their own progress.
Watch all of them in that thread, including the one that now masquerades as mod on the politics section make all forms of suggestions in that thread including offering Ndiigbo the advice to use Ibaka seaport instead of attempt to build our own, all in attempt to ensure we don't bring the Obuaku dream into reality.

A sensible Igbo should have wondered, what are they( Yorubas) all afraid of?

omonnakoda:
But you cannot dredge the River Niger as you would like without the consent of those upstream and downstream. That is a selfish aspiration.

No one will forget the devastating flood that swept Nigeria 3 or 4 years ago in a hurry. That dredging idea is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

Obuaku is not on River Niger, it's on Imo River.
The community south to Obuaku is Opobo, a traditionally Igbo friendly and related hybrid clan.

So the dredging will happen, sorry if that's a bitter pill for you to swallow.

Anyway, I think this thread is all about Ikpeazu playing to gallery, the cost of Obuaku seaport will be too enormous for Abia state government, only a pan Igbo alliance and nationalism drive can generate the funds needed to bring it to reality, and that is currently lacking.

But it's good though to know that the potentials of a future Igbo nation as represented by Obuaku gateway is limitless.

omonnakoda:
You are right it is a wondrous site though I believe it could be better developed as a high value Marina with prime value waterfront properties for Tourism and a nearby airport. I do not get this bizarre fixation with a seaport

We have other sites for such tourism projects. Obuaku is the Sea gateway for Igboland, and is Destined for that role in the future.

The Igbo fixation with an Igbo controlled and located Sea/ River port is not far fetched. It's a necessity for an economically and politically independent Igbo nation.

DelGardo:
I don't care why you supported failure.

Just to inform you that the Yorubas and other ethnic groups that voted Buhari cannot be accused of clanishness since a significant number also voted Goodluck. Also a larger number voted for Buhari, who is Fulani.

The difference is that a good number also voted GEJ while nearly all Igbos voted against Buhari. So who is more liberal?

The Buhari/ Osibanjo ticket sold in SW because of Osibanjo factor, it was clannish.

The Yorubas secretly believe that Osibanjo would become the president once old age catches up with Buhari.

Lol, you just can't make up your mind, can you? GEJ is not Igbo and his VP is not Igbo, our voting for him represents liberalism on our part, as you pointed out GEJ presidency yielded no special benefits for Ndiigbo.

The River looks beautiful.

DelGardo:
On the bolded you will find that our total support for the clueless Jonathan, who did nothing for Ndigbo, makes this your assertion untrue. Majority of Igbo's have voted that they are not so different from Ndi Ugwu in certain circumstances so we should stop all this pontificating.

Ignorant comment. GEJ is neither an Igbo man nor from the SE. Our support for him couldn't have been clannish, as he is not from an Igbo clan, instead it's a hallmark of Igbo tolerance and liberalism, sticking out our neck for a non Igbo, whose people once betrayed us.

" The NER then provides an updated analysis of poverty and living standards in Nigeria based on a panel survey of 5,000 households that was carried out in 2010/2011 and 2012/2013 as part of the General Household Survey of the Nigeria National Bureau of Statistics".

The world bank never conducted any research on Nigeria poverty rates, they simply used the Data from the Nigeria National Bureau, the same falsified results conducted in 2013 by a Yoruba man that placed Osun GDP greater than those of all SE states, it's no surprising why their results are flawed.

The same flawed stat that placed Niger state as the state with least poverty rate:https://www.naij.com/401470-see-the-10-poorest-states-in-nigeria.html

And I suspect the Oxford university used same flawed NBS flawed stats, hence their flawed result.

totit:
Flawed you wrote because it's not UNDP and UN?

Now tell me why should your link be consider then?

Secondly, why not consider the questions raised my kaakulator3 if you are sure of your link since the link you provided prompted that questions?

Here again, is his questions :


Do you agree Taraba,Jigawa,Katsina,Yobe and Kebbi are more economically viable than all South-east states?

Do you agree these states are more economically viable than Akwa-Ibom,Cross-River and Bayelsa?




Mind you, whatever you answer might be will expose whose link is legit and indeed if you believe in your so called link?

Waiting

You and him are asking questions that doesn't exist. No where did the link I posted suggested that Jigawa and Taraba are more economically viable than SE. You are asking a question that doesn't exist.
More like clutching at straws.