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@Chiosor, u tell me where is Soyinkas wife.
@Alliere, gues u neva grew up in a house were dad nd mum were on d same page or u may just have had an elder broda who is ur guardian but who in ur own thinkin was unable to cater 4 u properly because of his wife. Hisses if u lik throw away all ur breath.

What does d PDP want 2 c him for? To pray 4 him or is it 2 submit a list of their ministerial candidates dat didn't make Jonathans cabinet.

Can Utomis new party deliva? Dats d only question I hav do we hav membas frm dis forum in dat party.

The time is rily nigh 4 nairalanders to take their destiny into their hands can we start our negotiations online so we can form our platform.

Nex mayb we start d revolution by convenin a conference of nairalanders in Nigeria who are interested, u can host us I will be there 2 support nd contribute my quota, we cld begin d proces of givin birth 2 Nigeria's Martin Luther King

What does Wole Soyinka know about spousal abuse nd spousal love, wher is Soyinka's wife.
Is it bad for a man nd his wife to be very close, is it bad for a man to always listen to his wife nd take counsel frm her.
When Shehu made dat statement and if indeed he made it, it shld serve as a compliment, because in d north women are only seen but not heard, but Yaradua nd Turai practised somtin else nd it shld be xpected dat most people won't nd can't apreciate dat kind of relationship its just abnormal to them.
Also if u read El Rufai article on Yaradua he described Yaradua as a radical, who is strong willed nd stubborn, don't forget dat in 1979 elections he joined d oposition party to his familys party in katsina nd the party he belonged to won d elections but when he was nominated to serve in d cabinet he declined because his family members objected to it. This tells u dat he has a mind of his own, wen it comes to issues such as politics he choses where he wants to stand, but when d family demands responsibility frm him he acedes their request.
Yaradua a muslim stays faithful to his first wife, though he has a 2nd wife who he had divorced b4 bcomin a gov, is not known to engage in extra marital affairs or have children frm oda women, can we compare him with Obj a christian who is well known for his philanderin and could even offer xplanation 4 sleepin with his sons wife, how many politicians in our political space hold their wifes nd by extension their family dear, Yerima definitely doesn't listen to his wife hence cld go ahead nd marry a 13yr old girl, Yuguda is not spousal abused dats y he cld marry Yaraduas daughta as 4th wife nd make her 1st lady ova his oda wives, Ali Modu Sherif or who was it in d north dat had 2 creat offices 4 d 1st,2nd,3rd nd 4th ladies in a state.
Yaradua has shown himself 2 b a responsible man who listens to his wife, if Yaradua cld defy Obj at some point den y do we tink dat he doesn't stand up to his wife nd trust me on some issues he puts his leg down on her.
The Yaradua xample shld be encouraged so dat our leaders cld b more responsible to their families nd if dat is spousal abuse I recommend it 4 Soyinka nd Obasanjo.

@kobojunkie, what were u xpectin? A one man show by Goodluck Jonathan. Evrybody is important nd u can c dat Sanusi is on d special comite nd dis is also because of his passion with d power sector chalenges, remember he sugested @ d screenin dat the president shld tackle a 1point agenda of power.

I wish d special comitee good luck.

They think they are where they were b4 as u can c its d new ministas who are not used 2 d Jonathan style. One of them showin an IV dat says d meetin will begin by 1, he is not aware dat they are suposed 2 b seated by 12 not 1.

I hope they learn their lessons, especially dat man frm NNPC, this is not NNPC where they go 2 meetings late.

The American Embassy is not @ asokoro, its in central area, nd if d americans hav any property it shld be a rented one, so if they are not comfortable they should relocate but 2 ask us to redirect our road is arrant nonsense.


Someone complained of d press not presentin a balanced report I gues u can apreciate y d govt will not just want 2 pas an FOI bill wher d journalists are not matured enuf 2 handle

Yes Iwu failed us as a nation but then wld replacin him guarantee we won't be disapointed by d nxt person. Those askin 4 Soyinka, do we rily think dat he can giv us free nd fair elections, I don't think so he already has a deep seated hatred 4 d PDP which Iwu does not even have 4 oposition parties in d last elections.


In my opinion d process nd procedure in registerin nd votin in elections nd d manner @ which d results are anounced is more key dan who mans d comision.
If u regista in PH durin registrations can u vote in d elections if u find urself in Ibadan during d polls. If we say yes, what voters register wld be placed @ d pollin booths, if we say no, what happens 2 very mobile people eg University students, Corp membas nd ibo biz men who are in Lag dis wk nd may want 2 vote 4 their state govs durin elections.

Now wat do we use in identfyin people for registration, wld they bring their local govt identification or can any body just register with a name like Mike Tyson or Omoseyitan Omoyorun, what abt d role of thumbprints nd electronic votin, these are more critical dan who chairs d body.

The advantage we have @ dis time is dat our presidents both substantive nd actin are not do or die politicians like d immediate past president, so the chairman @ dis time has an advantage.

Atiku is a man witout principles, I have neva seen him as a leader, the first mistake was 2 leave d PDP, goin ahead 2 contest on AC platform was d most stupid thin he cld hav done, now returnin back is a proof that he is a politician witout principles.


That's one reason I prefered d Yaradua presidency 2 Atikus, if Yaradua had gone 2 AC or any other party do u tink he will eva return 2 PDP, Yaradua my man of principles, ur type are few and they are dyin away just like u.

LP is trying to take its ground in d state, all it takes in Nigeria is 4 a party to clinch d head of d executive all other arms start fallin in. At least anoda state lost by d PDP

Now that we know dat Yaradua is almost dead wat difference does it make? Has it or will it make Jonathan perform better? It was unnecesary 4 dem 2 talk and I know dat if dis aide has said dat Yaradua smiled or blinked a lot of pple wld want 2 discredit him nd call him all sorts of names. Recovery of a very sick person is in d hand of God and if he believes or his wife believes dat God wld heal him and make him return to ofc den they hav a right to hold on to the ofc nd not resign, but there wld be a limit which Jonathan can set.

@beaf how free was the 1993 elections and if it was so free wat did we achieve with an election where there were no results?

The truth is dat the politicians messed us up, or wasnt it Arthur Nzeribe a politician who went to court and got a ruling that results should not be declared and Nwosu refused to obey.

Iwu tried his best Obj didnt allow Iweala return to finance ministry so that the treasury could be pludered to manipulate the elections same was the challenge Iwu had believe me Obj should be blamed squarely for the 2007 failures

Iwu truly has a point, he alone is not the problem with our elections, he can do us a favour by documenting his challenges and leave his recommendations for whoever is takin over from him

What difference has it made knowin dat ur president cld not sit still for 5mins and is in deep excruciatin pain?

Does it mean that his family should pull the plug on him? Or are we to sack him because his sickness is grave? As a mata of fact how does dis afect d price of beans in d market?

You guys are damn funny, abeg leave d man, he didn't xpect dat he wld b makin dat trip Jonathan was supposed 2 b there personally.

If some of u were placed in dat venue u may actually perform worse, no need 2 worry guyman Ajumogobia will b representin us henceforth.

Thankz Jamie, we can make it happen. I really wish a lot of us wld come 2geda and actually fashion a way 4ward. I'm puttin it in serious thot I may host d gatherin with d suport of other interested nairalanders, I hope u will giv ur support.

@kosovo I thot some of us here said Yaradua was dead, at least the man is still alive and is in Nigeria.

I sugest someone hosts d naija version.
Abuja shld be a good venue.

Neva say neva Jamie, we can achieve wat we set our mind on.


I don't believe d whole population can make it @ one venue, some will not com because they don't bliv in Nigeria, some will not com because they aren't interested, but seriously Seun shld consider this suggestion seriously nd I look 4ward 2 votin 4 d awards, it wld sure be fun.



Let's not despise dis little beginnin, I ask dis question, when Seun started NL did he think it wld com dis far? Abt d political party we may just be about unleashin d Awolowos, Azikwes, Tafawa Balewas of this time we even hav d advantage of technology which they didn't have.

@Garba yaradua still has his personal life 2 live, wat do u want dis man to do, a lot of u said he was dead nd buried in Saudi, so wen he was strong enuf he decided or those takin care of him decided 2 allow some people c him nd chose d religious leaders, now d issue is no longer if he is alive nd gettin beta it has now bcom an issue of the pastors must talk. What do we want Oyedepo 2 say, I saw Yaradua and his health situation is precarious and may die soon or wat xactly is d truth we seek I ask Nigerians on this forum. Does a healthy man grunts Amen wen he is bein prayed 4, do we take notice of a healthy person who is abt 2 resume work 2 be able 2 shake hands witout sayin anything. Wat joy wld it giv us 2 c a man close 2 his death on TV, is Yaradua d cause of d problems dat have been with us since d 80s, is it an offence to aspire 2 lead, nd is it a grave sin 2 be gravely ill, a lot of u on dis same forum said he was abandoned in d ambulance dat brought him home and Oyedepo nd co didn't hav their meetin wit him in d ambulance, some hav circulated computer graphics depictin Yaradua, a father 2 a boy who is barely 10 who may not be allowed 2 c his father, on d internet, are we this heartles? If it was ur Dad wld u give up on him recovering? Would u start sellin ur fathers property 4 his burial because he is terminally sick? No I will give him every chance 2 survive, I wld even go borrowin 2 pay medical bills for him I won't start changin title documents because d doc says he can't make it, I would rather believe in God and if someone asks me to visit a herbalist I wld go 4 him, I wld even give an arm 2 c him live just one more day, so y do we want Yaradua sacked? Y do we want 2 hear dat he is dead? Y?

Obj is d prob of d PDP nd he made d party a prob 2 Nigeria, Yaradua nd Jonathan didn't rig d elections but Obj did.

I think its a nice idea, we cld make it a costume party where yes our names on our T shirts but we cld still mask up, then d event cld be advertised thru dis forum, I will be willin 2 pay 4 a ticket as my contribution we cld have a general session b4 dissolvin into groups and the icin on d cake is 2 have a sort of Sovereign Nairaland Conference where we cld come up with the Constitution and Manifesto of our political party.


I believe we can make it happen nd we cld be d forum 4 d Megaparty Nigeria awaits, only members who hav bin registered in d previous year can attend or those who hav bin registered 4 a year or we cld use dat condition as a pre requisite 4 d execs of d new party.

Let's make it happen!!!

We have a lot of people with little minds on dis forum.

Yaraduas sicknes is a personal issue and Oyedepo has just confirmed that.

hexcraft:
Marvix, Please ready your Bible very well and if you don't have, you can get one at www.uccb.org.
Meanwhile, you are like one of those that have allowed the doctrines of self praise of these our so-called men of God to soak your brain.
Jesus Christ Heal, Dine and Prayed for the Sick. Was it done in secrecy? Our president is an ordinary human being that can fall sick and recover. Why should it be hidden from people. meanwhile, he is presently Nigerian's property.
The Scripture is very clear and understandable, so, stop deluding your self.
Given the number of religious "Men of God in this country", yet we are still among the poorest of nations. Also Don't forget that Jesus never owned cattles and sheep in his days (for we were his flocks) but that is the contrary to what we have today. and yet then, the men of God of those days could still preach and heal the sick.

We should call a spade a spade, and stop deceiving ourselves in this Country. I thank God, that in-as-much as we have those killing the country, alot are also doing good work to balance it out.


Never you look at the content of a man, but at the qualities and virtues of the MAN.

Our President is a very Good man, from the little I know, People should stop compounding his problem. He might be willing to come out, the frustration from those around him is highly weighing him down. They should allow this man to have his remaining days in bliss (if he has any left.)

May God grant him quick recovery (If he is alive)  - Amen.

@Hexcraft even Jesus when he performed miracles do ask his beneficiaries to go and tell no one, definiteky he wasnt the one telling everyone about his miracles but people that saw him perform the miracles.
Where does the bible forbid pastors for going to pray for leaders of other faith, Nebucadnezzer was definitely a wicked ruler but Daniel a prophet of God worked in his court.
I think you need to read ur bible properly and this forum isnt meant to be sentimental but fact and issue based

7 point agenda is a national agenda which should not even end with this administration, because we can stop improving our power sector, the Niger Delta must always be given special consideration, Health care facilities must continually undergo upgrades same with our educational system, or can we stop Human capital development and solve security once and for all.?

[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] WHAT TYPE OF COUNTRY IS THIS, WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE DO WE HAVE ON THIS FORUM, WHAT PART OF OYEDEPOS SPEECH DID WE NOT UNDERSTAND, HE DIDNT GO TO THE PRESS, THE PRESS CAME TO HIM TO CONFIRM IF HE HAD GONE TO SEE THE PRESIDENT NAD HE SAID THE TRUTH THAT HE INDEED SAW THE PRESIDENT AND THIS MEETING WAS A PERSONAL MEETING AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRESS, WHERE DO WE NOW GET THE INSINUATION THAT TURAI ASKED HIM NOT TO SAY WHAT HE SAW.

I will give a short story it is about myself and a close friend who is very sick.
I went to his house yesterday and he was on drugs that made him weak and dizzy so his sisters entertained me but didnt wake him up and I also pleaded that he should not be disturbed for my sake i watched the football match in his house and left late, but if I were a pastor who was invited to pray for him they would have to bring him out not because the pastor cant pray without seeing him but courtesy demands that and belief that the man of God represents God, and should the man of God now go out and start describing how sick my friend is?

People pls give the president a break you cant love him more than his family members, you cant love him more than his children and ultimately cant love himmore than his wife of over 30yrs, It is a rare priviledge to bcom President and the man should be allowed to fight for his aspirations, he is president, he is sick, he believes he will get better and be able to return to his office. May i also state that my friend works in a bank and his prayer is that when he gets well after some months his job should wait for himand he has been out for abt 6 weeks now.

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I will, therefore, continually monitor and evaluate your performance. Each of you has a portfolio but our responsibility will also be collective. This means that we must support one another, because together each achieves more.

Im sure this is what Yaradua had always wanted to do but his health kept comin in the way and those ministers then didnt want Jonathan doin it on behalf of Yaradua.

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As we advance towards the strengthening of our democracy and the institutions and systems of our federalism, let me urge you to be partners in progress with other tiers of government. We will frown at undue politicking and the promotion of needless friction in the polity.

This should serve as a warning to ministers not to bring unnecesary tension btw his ministas and d govs or senators but instead face their job.

The part I love most is

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the blue print for the actualization of government objectives are there in the budget and in the various policy frameworks now gathering dust in our archives. No minister will be allowed to go on a mission of endless search for solutions.

The man just hit the nail right there on d head no body should be looking for solutions wasting resources on workshops seminars go straight and solve the problems by implementing existing blueprints.


By and large the speech is a wonderful one, pls aisha can u give me d link to get Yaraduas speeches and Obj speeches there is need to compare both of them.

Ley us not forget it is team work and Jonathan admits so, this speech says where he wants to be but he needs the cooperation of all those with him to get there.

Sky Spirit:
Yar’Adua : I owe public no explanation – Oyedepo
Cover Stories Apr 7, 2010

By Sam Eyoboka & Kolade Larewaju

ABEOKUTA – PRESIDENT of the Living Faith Church, Bishop David Oyedepo yesterday confirmed that he actually visited ailing President Umaru Yar’Adua at the Presidential Villa but declined to give details of the man’s state of health.

Bishop Oyedepo who spoke to reporters in Abeokuta, declined further comments on their visit to the ailing president merely saying “yes” when asked to confirm the reports in the newspapers.

Pressed to speak on the president’s health, he said [b]“that is personal. I owe the public no explanation.”[/b]Bishop OyedepoOyedepo was one of the four Christian leaders who were led by the president of Christian Association of Nigeria, CAN, and Catholic Archbishop of Abuja, Most Rev. John Onaiyekan, who visited President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua on Easter Monday to pray with him. Others included Rev. Emmanuel Kure and the erstwhile chaplain of Aso Rock Chapel, Prof. Yusuf Obaje.

Meanwhile, as over 140 million Nigerians await the verdict of the four Christian leaders on the state of health of President Yar’Adua, feelers reaching Vanguard showed that the team was hurriedly assembled to balance a political equation as Muslim clerics had earlier prayed with him.

According to informed sources, an earlier move to get credible Christian clerics to be part of the Easter Monday visit flopped when some of them were perceived not to be too keen on the visit.
The whole idea of the Easter prayers by Christian leaders was said to have emanated from a former two-term governor who believed he could contract eminent Christian leaders to pray for the ailing president, especially after a similar exercise by Muslim clerics.

The immediate family of the ailing president was said to have bought the idea and therefore asked one of the key officials to liaise with the former governor. It was at that point that the former governor was said to have called the National President of the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria, PFN, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor who was expected to reach others.

The proposal was for Oritsejafor to recruit the services of the CAN president, John Onaiyekan, the General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, RCCG, Pastor Enoch Adeboye and one other cle[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][b]ric.

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Oyedepo has sent the message home, the health of Mr President is personal and anyone seeing him in personal capacity owes no public explanation or apologies. SIMPLE

Good Move Jonathan, but wont that be overloading the Vice President, because he is d vice president, the acting president now the power minister or will we pay him 3 salaries for each office he is adminestering

ManUtd is out no english tean shall make it to d Champions league final, So says the God of footballllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

So y did d reporters report dat Oyedepo neva visited d president. The way people are portrayin Turai very soon people would start claimin dat Turai is sleepin around, I don't bliv she xpected any uprisin frm d muslims on fri, she is just tryin 2 show evidence dat Yaradua is alive nd gettin beta nd not dead as som pple hav bin claimin but d president is not strong enuf 2 resume.


What do we achieve by sackin Yaradua?