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I think dis is his real standpoint, the other news where he was reported 2 hav asked Jonathan 2 4get d presidency must hav bin false or a wily old man with his antics, but I choose to stand on this declaration nd d pdp neva zoned presidency 2 any region 4 8yrs at a go its 4yrs den based on performance nd popular demand cld be given a max of 8yr, Obasanjo negotiated his 2nd term with Atiku, so if Obj had bin as sick as Yaradua is now Atiku wld hav taken ova afta Objs 4yr.


Jonathan just concentrate on movin dis nation 4ward I will stand up 2 be counted for u.

To me it shld be IBB for layin d foundation of all d mess we are in now and even attemptin to come back.

A party without crisis is not a party, hence let dose who want 2 return 2 pdp return Edo state is marchin 4ward nd we nid a vibrant opposition dat will put d govt in check nd hav d capability to win d elections in a credible manner, but since we know dat they are only unhappy wit d way Oshiomole has decided not to loot nd please them then they can remain in d opposition 4eva.

Oshiomole did nothin wrong in invitin IBB nd Mark, Soyinka and other AC leaders who boycoted d rally are cowards who can't nd cldnt stand up to IBB nd giv him a piece of their mind mayb they stil xpect him 2 com ova if d PDP denies him d presidential ticket so no need to stir d nest.


Keyamo nd others gave IBB food 4 thot, Oshiomole didn't use or allow d rally be used as a platform 4 any sort of campaign nd dat was d wisdom in invitin pple frm d other divide AC does not know jack abt politics nd dats y they hav bin unable to put their house in order to capitalise on d problems in the pdp.


Oshiomole is a better politician dan all those AC lords includin Tinubu himself wen Oshiomole wanted 2 go into politics d 1st wise decision he made was to run 4 gov of his state instead of d presidency, 2ndly he brought his LP into an alliance wit d AC even allowed d AC platform b used because there was a crack in pdp nd d pple were tired but if d opposition was not tick ther was no assurance d pple wld b able 2 ask the pdp 2 leave.


Politicians shld realise dat nigerians are tired of pdp but we need an organised, stable nd well spread alternative to the pdp.

Y did d AC chieftains boycott the event? They missed a rare opportunity to tell Babangida nd d Nation wat they thot of his ambitions, they cld hav instead takin Mark to task in d rally instead of boycott, I hail all those who were there nd didn't mince words tellin IBB wat he needs to know nd dose who boycotted I refer to them as COWARDS

Who will chair their joint session or wld they b having co chair wit their colleagues in d Senate. Now they want 2 create states so they cn bcom Govs. Shame on them

Yaradua get well real soon come 4 ur 2nd term nd afta dat u can go back 2 rest while ur able vice continues in actin capacity till 2015 den u wld win d award as d longest servin president in absentia, I wish you Goodluck.

Obj is a big disapointment, not lik I'm surprised though, I hav always insisted dat he is d biggest fool 2 hav eva ruled dis country nd cursed was d day he was born within this political nd geographical entity he wld hav been better off a still birth.

Now this is d time 4 Jonathan to deal decisively, first nd foremost he shld 4get abt d presidency, but concentrate on a free nd fair elections, throw serious spanners into d works of Obj nd IBB and prepare 2 handova 2 d opposition, he ahld not 4get d haliburton case he can use that 2 get Obj answerin questions @ d EFCC nd makin sure he is detained, set up d EFCC also on IBB nd dose south west PDP govs anglin 4 VP ensure dat no federal fund or machinery can be deployed to d PDP campaign he shld also reject any VP nomination, if Buhari gets a mega party dat can take advantage of d development nd come in then Obj nd IBBs problems wld hav just begun.


Jonathan can then b considered for other important international positions by undoin d PDP he wld bcom a national hero nd mayb @ last we wld hav our equivalent of Mandela here in Nigeria

@bluetooth I don't think we can rule out Jonathan, Nigeria has 2 grow out of north nd south bias, zonin nd rotational presidency is abt 2 exit our system, politics or votin pattern shld not be dat because my broda is contestin I vote 4 him.

Jonathan has all it takes 2 be president nd I wld love 2 c him upstage the north now nd Jonathan can be removed in 2015 by an oposition reason bein dat he can win dis only in a relatively free nd fair situation so as a beneficiary it wld be near impossible to impose himself on d nation in 2015, by then younga nd brighta minds wld be in d political space or do we tink Obj wld remain as active by then even IBB may not live 2 c 2015 the el rufais, Fashola, Dukes, nd co will then be able 2 participate actively nd seek 2 unseat Jonathan by then.



Objs entry in our political space by displacin Ekhueme is wat has brought us dis far let's not make dat mistake again with IBB displacin Jonathan

Kobo nd trueword u both hav ur points but kobo u must realise dat corruption in dis country is not well defined, failure 2 giv info on how taxpayers money is spent does not qualify as an offence in dis country but if u hav nothin to hide won't u go ahead to give full details of how it was spent? Political patronage is part of politics, do u think party membas who fight 2 make it 2 d cabinet do so because of d luv they hav 4 d pple, d ansa is NO, it is for their pecuniary gains, if a Fashola is eva goin 2 be able 2 tak a shot @ d presidency or leadership of d senate or any other higher political ofc can he do it without funds, which funds do u xpect him to use. The ACF plan 2 organise a prog where they want to attempt to define wat constitutes corruption.

In our enviroment if a man gives u a job or helps u get a job u are xpected 2 show gratitude nd dis is wat politicians demand if I help u 2 bcom Gov u shld show appreciation, if Gov gives u contract u shld show appreciation nd dis is wat is demanded as kick back, say we rily luk @ corrupt acts nd legalise some aspects by providin 4 instance a commission be made legally available 2 whoeva gives out a job.


The vagueness of d term corruption nd its very wide scope makes almost all if not all our govt officials victim of dis sin, or is it not a corrupt act 4 d paying officer in d ministry 2 receive gratification frm a contractor for doin his job but this happens evrywhere so d day anybody is ready 2 deal with dat kind of ofica it wld just be 2 bring d case up. A lot of Nigerians leave above their means even d poor in d society are livin above wat they earn dis is possible because of corruption, workers can survive witout salaries 4 6mths nd wen u ask they claim d grace of God, in a developed society like America can any worker survive witout his salary 4 6mths, it is simply impossible.



Yes Fashola may be guilty but he is not d only guilty one in Nigeria but this also does not excuse him nd if d powers dat be decide dat his day of reckonin has come y shld I cry 4 him? Did I share in d loot?

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When did he make this decision ooooOOOo


No be only yesterday, dem even decide to create DOCTRINE OF NECESSITY out of thing air to make this man AP, now He is already running for another turn less than 2 months in? ROFLMAO!!








This shows ur lack of depth of politics in dis country, wen Jonathan played d waitin game nd held evrybody 2 ransom by not actin on behalf of Yaradua he had plans and knew that it is step by step 2 get wat u want in d land and I know for sure that he will get there because he is a wise politician in Nigeria politics pls kip ur support 4 him because its someone like him dat can eventually jail IBB nd Obj by following due process nd acting as though he is unaware of wat is goin on.




Goodluck Ebele Jonathan 4 2011

The problem with our country is that we lik bringin issues frm up to down instead of down nd den work it up.

What d oposition shld hav done is start by suin d teachers nd schools gettin NAFDAC nd d police involved, gettin individual teachers who were involved in distributin d milk 2 giv their statements frm there u will get 2 d commisioner nd if d Gov is culpable he wil come crashin down.

The gov cld possibly have given d order 4 milk 2 be bought but is d gov sposed 2 go nd check d factories, there is suposed 2 hav bin Nafdac clearance b4 dose milj are allowed in d schs, Nigerians pls let's learn 2 face d aprporiate pple nd agencies instead of throwin stones at d politicians.

I doubt Orubebe speakin in Iboris favor because Orubebes Godfather is Clark, also let us rememba Ribadus prob wit Yaradua was wen Ribadu came to get permission frm Yaradua 2 arrest Ibori, Yaradua was miffed dat others bin investigated nd arrested at dat time didn't require his permision den y Ibori? So Jonathan has asked d EFCC to do its job so Farida is just tryin 2 make sure dat her job is secured, also most of the pdp big wigs with lots of stolen wealth nid 2 be checked so dat their influence on who bcoms d presidential candidate is reduced if not totally eliminated.

Its very funny 2 c pple tryin 2 justify Fashola, my take on this is dat investigations shld go on nd evidences tried in a law court we don't nid sensationalisation of issues nd dis is also wat I xpect wen allegations are made against non performing govs.


I hav said it b4 n dis forum dat all hav sinned, the system allows nd even encourage corruption nd I'm very sure he wld b culpable but then wat is there 2 celebrate, because even if he is impeached nd taken to jail d nxt person wil just b smarter nd mayb worse because he wldnt want anyone complainin so will ensure he loots more nd settle evrybody an xample in recent times is Etteh vs Bankole.


If we don't correct d fundamentals dat allow corruption as a norm we will kip gettin news lik dis.

Most of these pple were born into d middle class families of d 80s nd 90s wen parents tried to give all comforts, most of them had maids nd pple who did menial jobs, they were intelligent nd luked up 2 gettin good jobs afta school wit d support of their parents but some of their parents were retired prematurely some laid off witout benefits lik d Nitel staff, railway workers nd most of these parents had not planned for retirement now d children hav 2 struggle 2 get into schs, children of uneducated thugs in politics now drive around in their illiterate fathers cars pple dat used 2 beg them 4 food are now eatin wat they can't there's frustration in his family, now pple introduce him to internet fraud wat do u xpect him to do, mayb his parents hav bin ejected from d 1004 towers, nd other qtrs dat his family has known as home.


This is not a justification but a call on govt to wake up nd tak d challenge of unemployment by d horns, graduates shld not be encouraged to sell crayfish in d name of entreprenuership, the govt shld insist on standards, the casualisation of labour needs to be reduced drastically, any company callin 4 experienced staff shld show proof of d num of staff they hav undergoin trainin or how wld a coy be lookin 4 engrs with 10yrs xperience nd not have vacancies 4 those fresh frm NYSC. We need to sove unemployment wholistically in dis nation then rebranding will go on autodrive

This man shld be sacked from d Senate chambers and tried in a federal court even if his sharia court clears him d federal cour shldnt

Orkar had good intentions but was a bad student to the laws of Power hence his failure, u never reveal too much.

Where was he rushin to, did he have to tell evrybody where he was goin from d onset, how do u restrict d soldiers nd police 2 d barracks nd impose a curfew, if d coup had taken place on Apr 1st it cld hav passed as an April fool joke.

Abalaka is livin his life large in Abj, he dared d world 2 inject him wit d virus and he will cure himself nd none of d intl agencies hav taken up d challenge. Instead they are askin him for d formular used in his preparation and he refused them, the amt of money they hav invested on condoms are yet to be realised.

The man has been treatin pple with d virus nd do u kno anyone who has d virus dat will come up openly to confess it even after the treatment and d treatment is not beans, Dr Abalaka has loads of money I personally know dat, he virtually supports many banks with his deposits.

I don't c y anyone shld be bothered if Jonathan is bein used by Obj wat if Jonathan is actually using Obj I personally think dat a lot of u guys on this forum underrate this man Goodluck Jonathan.


Does Ibori have a case 2 answer or not? If he has nothin 2 hide he shld come out and stop d drama. Jonathan can choose which corrupt person he likes at least even if Ibori remains in hidin he can't come out nd campaign against Jonathan.



When Jonathan bcoms substantive president he can den go ahead to declare d same Obj wanted dead or alive or is it not d same Ibori dat financed the campaign dat made Jonathan VP in d 1st place, it wld be a mata of time b4 Obj nd Jonathan fell apart.

Sagmite u are a complete f.o.o.l. Most of my post are brief because I use a fone, wat I meant is dat if the EFCC wants to take up anybody on corruption charge they can, most especially wen u are a political ofc holder. My first post on dis issue is quite clear.

This nation is run by corrupt practises, u win elections by riggin, U bribe ur way 2 be confirmed in d senate, policemen collect 20naira frm drivers on d highway, the drivers most times are not fully registered to operate, so d whole cycle of corruption pervades the entire landscape. Just one question has a police ofcer eva arrested u b4, u havnt hrd of illegal parkin, u just parked ur vehicle where there was no "NO PARKING" sign if u get 2 d station nd dat police u thot was semiliterate brings out ur charge sheet u will feel sorry 4 urself.


Did Ogbulafor just steal d money? Be that as it may, serves him right because if anyone thinks dat he wld do somtin nd get away wit it gues they shld start havin a rethink because dat 500k u tuk cld be used 2 haunt u, let us also take note that 104mill is not his latest loot but mayb som pple in d rite camp hv a hand in d latest ones hence dig out an old one on him.

@skyblue wat did I say wrong u tink u aren't corrupt, d only question I hav 4 u is dat do u tink u are payin ur correct taxes nd if u buy pure water frm dose sch children hawkin it @ sch hrs den u are guilty of corruption.

The truth is if Jerry Rawlings was in Nigeria he wld hav failed, our culture is one dat allows a wrongdoer to be pardoned nd whoeva seeks his full punishment as wicked and Buhari was our Rawlings infact Rawlings was inspired by him nd learnt lessons frm d way Buhari was treated dat was y he was more brutal. The corruption in dis country does it follow any process, so y do we nid proceses 2 stamp it out, even a Buhari as president wld not c a toothless EFCC nd let dem b he cld give them teeth without due process nd use d teeth 2 throw 2/3rds of d senators to jail b4 a new set witout corrupt tendencies come 2 legalise d actions but trust Nigerians we wld hav bin cryin wolf @ dat time.

Babaginda claims dat frm 1960-1995 d economy of Nigeria was beta off dan post 1995, this shows his lack of depth nd his poor analysis of issues, he actually laid d solid foundation for d failure by failin to invest in electricity generation wen a larger percentage of Nigerians were still in d villages, he failed to invest in Nitel was d foundation 4 d total collapse of Nitel, his foundation in corruption is so solid dat d superstructures of corruption is still very dificult to bring down nd above all d youths he studied nd discovered dat can't rule this country are a product of his hard work between 1985 nd 1993.

Babaginda pls leave dis country alone no be only u dey naija.

@sjeezy8 he is now paying 4 his sins nxt time he will weigh wateva he has 2 say b4 sayin it. He looked down on Jonathan now is d time 2 understand dat d gentleness of a lion does not portray weakness, sit back relax nd enjoy ur viewin

Howelse do we eject him from his chairmanship position and clear d way for our man to become president. Now he wld start begging for his life and not zoning formular, the beauty of Nigerian politics is that evry politician is corrupt but u will only be exposed at the right time, even Jonathan is no saint if Yaradua were to come back and wants to eject Jonathan u will all be surprised at the corruption charge against him and u bet he will be guilty.


That is y I particularly dont celebrate reports of corruption allegation because we are all corrupt, and we are all corrupt because d system requires us to be corrupt to move along.

If we dont correct the system that allows a jobless man in the park earning more than a man who is gainfully employed in d civil service, corruption will thrive, if activities of govt are not open up for transparency we will continue to c corruption and corruption really has to be well defined in this country because some things that come up as corruption are actually part of our culture and tradition of paying homage

The truth be said power has improved tremendously where I stay in Nig, I had my last stick of candle 4 abt 4wks now nd its not yet finished, I sleep all nite with d power on till morn,mayb a day I hav clse 2 16hrs light per day.


All that said I want us not 2 giv all credit 2 Jonathan because solvin power probs is not a days job, this is the effect of all d plans nd work dat Yaradua had been workin on though he may hav bin slow but he had laid d foundation nd now Jonathan can build faster and this is what we will judge him by in anoda 3mths.

I'll rememba him as d only leader in dis corrupt country to declare his assets publicly witout bein urged 2 do so.
He will be remembad 4 his respect for the rule of law and principle of seperation of power.
I will rememba him as d father of peace in d modern Nigeria thru his amnesty prog.
I will remeba him as Mr Due process.
I will rememba him as a selfless leader who was prepared to make d ultimate surprise in d interest of d nation.
His simplicity and listenin posture to national issues is somthin I will neva 4get in him.
Above all he will be remembad as Nigeria's leader without personal corruption.

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u will know that this your guy Abdulsalam is a looter







Is he a bigger looter than IBB or all d present crop of PDP state govs, or can we say honestly that he is a bigger looter to Goodluck Jonathan. They are all looters but if I must choose a northerner nd former military ruler I will go 4 Abdulsalami over IBB.

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What has Jonathan achieved that qualifies him to contest for the Presidency in 2011?


Ok which of ur past leaders hav u voted 4 in 1st term based on wat they had achieved, the performin gov of Lagos wat was his achievemen b4 bcomin gov.
Wat was Objs achievement wen we voted him 4 d 1st term nd wat was his achievements wen he got 2nd term, wat is d achievement of Pat Utomi in public ofc dat makes us want him 4 president, so y are we now screamin nd askin 4 his achievements like he must bring achievements b4 he can perform.


His handlin of d Nation durin Yaraduas sicknes witout allowin d nation blow up is a big achievement which a lot of us can't apreciate because dat feat brought out his strength of character as a politician.

All this Ibori nonsense just makes me imagine wat wld hav happened if Buhari had won d 2007 elections. The EFCC wld hav bin givin their court nd Asaba courts wil not have jurisdiction in any of his cases, evidences wld hav been released even in d face of Buharis tyranny Ibori wld find it dificult gettin refuge in any western nation esp UK, Idiagbon must sure be turnin in his grave nd d only thing we give credit 2 dis people for is human right abuses, I wonder who really abuses humans, the man who takes high profile thieves into jail without an oportunity 2 defend themselves or those who consistently loot our common heritage and turn graduates hawkers of crayfish, school children hawkers of poor water. Pls pple tell me.

Gen Buhari did this country a favor because d country was on fire his coup was as a result of d imaturity of d politicians @ dat time unlike dis present time nd that's y I kip thankin God 4 how Jonathan handled d situation, that is wat was responsible 4 d military not takin ova wen Yaradua was sick. Buhari was not an indisciplined soldier as we all know d indisciplined soldier is IBB himself or u check this out. Buhari instilled discipline in d nation within 18 mths Babangida enthroned indiscipline in his 8yrs, corruption was not tolerated with Buhari but Babaginda made corruption a fashion statement, Buhari allowed his deputy Idiagbon free hand on issues who can tell me IBBs deputys role in d 8yr rule.


If it eva comes to a str contest btw Buhari nd Babaginda I wld giv my vote 2 Buhari, because Buhari sacked an illegitimate govt dat rigged itself on d Nigerian people while Babaginda annuled d freest nd fairest elections we eva had in dis country.

@Akeliah, dats d politics I hav always told u abt nd Goodluck surq knows how 2 play it.