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Dishonesty will never yields positive results {Matthew 7:16} so when you see something that's yielding positive results know that you're wrong calling it "dishonesty" Matthew 7:17-18

So since you feel your opinion is honest why not go and practice it among your fellow believers?

tctrills:
It's not as if you did not know my position from the start so I am shocked that you are now wailing and complaining.
Yes, I confess, I see these debates as a nice mental exercise but I unlike you, would not lie or be dishonest just to win an argument.
I would depend completely on the revealed word of God and I would continue to show your dishonesty

I received your mail and i've responded.
However try to contact me on:

leonardo196955@yahoo.com

Our brothers are sending their greetings!

Aemmyjah:
Chai
Have you seen how you lied against innocent people?
Apology unaccepted
You asked a question you don't know and you answer it
Lemme tell you that your answer is ABSOLUTELY incorrect
Every organization has a governing body whether social, political, commercial, religious,etc.
The priests acted as governing body in ancient Israel
In the first st century, the apostles and older men were the governing body as they directed the organization
Which one of them is hypocrisy?

Dtruthspeaker:
Exodus 12 :49/Leviticus 24:22 Show that all of God's Law cover Strangers and Foreigners who are interested in joining Isreal.

So you are talking absolute rubbish.

Joining the Israelites bodily in Israel or spirit and truth while far away from Israel?
You guys just feel like arguing when you know nothing!
Can you practice what the Mosaic laws say in Nigeria where their constitution wasn't based on the Mosaic laws but collective opinion of people from different tribes and religions?

For your information Saturday is the Sabbath and whoever works in Israel that day must be stoned to death. Oya go and practice it you FOOL!

It's OK.
Byebye!

Dtruthspeaker:
Jws are hated with great passion because you are very big mad devils. Imagine saying Angel Michael is Christ Jesus for a passage which clearly shows that it was Isaiah who said "Here i am, send me" Your madness has reached mad sonmvayina's level and even he knows that you are now mad like him.

tctrills:
Looool and you are reminding me because?

You're just trying to justify faithlessness which makes you miserably following politics. If you are debating it's not just to make people see how much you can argue but how practical and beneficial what you're saying by presenting where it is working out in the gathering of imperfect humans like you.
But when you're arguing just to make yourself feel important it's like throwing everything into tin air because you gain nothing when you can't get anyone to work towards the same goal as you do.


We are Jehovah's Witnesses!
Our movement is not about winning arguments as most people like you do think rather we are searching for people who want to know the group having the backing of the most high God so we call them in.
Someone like you don't take any group seriously you feel since those taking the lead among them are imperfect humans they shouldn't be revered so you're not our type as we know that God is using a group of imperfect humans to gather His worshipers under one umbrella and making them work towards the same goal all we need to do is find out which of these numerous groups is the one God is using.
That's why Jesus called those we are to search for "lost sheep of the house of Israel" {Matthew 10:6} they are willing to subject themselves to authority that's having God's backing but they may be lost in false religions, some of them may even be deadly islamists but through the way they see us conduct ourselves and achieving what our God said without using weapons or force they will realize that this is not just ordinary it has the backing of someone who is greater than all the weapons one can think of! Ephesians 6:10-17

Thanks for your time!

You call it idolatry while i call you a Satanist!

sonmvayina:
The Torah is about God's laws...
The odinani/omenani is about God's laws..

Which ever one he learns. The important thing is that he keeps the laws...

There is no point teaching him the laws that he already knows. Or do you go about teaching other JW from different KH?

This is your excuse for still practicing idolatry?

Or your scared of the stigmatisation when you leave JW ?

If you can't convince him about the Torah then let's forget this i'm for Jesus!

sonmvayina:
I don't understand your ramblings..

He detest jesus because he is an idol. A creation of the Roman Catholic church. He understands that just as much as I do.

Even in the Torah it states

" Do not have any other God before me"

"Do not make the image OR LIKENESS of anything in heaven or on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them".
But the Roman Catholic church has created a god or son of God in their image and likeness (image of a Caucasian male) and you think God is not offended? Common max, reason like an adult. It is offensive to God. You can claim you are his witness and you are openly flaunting his laws and commandments..I know he is not happy at all.

That is what I have been singing in your eyes...

Golden456:
A simple question: with, with what did God create Jesus?
It was similarly said that Lucifer was created Witten stones. Original creation also. Ezekiel 28: 13,14. it is true that the bible metion what precious stones that was use to create lucifer but the bible does not tell us if Jesus christ was still created with precious stones. All what i know is that it was written in the bible that Jesus christ was created by Jehovah.

MightySparrow:
What is faith?
Papa teaches Faith.
His 'church' is called Living Faith Church.
How do arrive at my being ' faithless'.
Your Community Faith?

I think this guy (Golden456) wants to answer you so forget about me and direct all your questions to him.

Good luck!

Golden456:
I don't understand why your guys love abusing each other

Perhaps you should continue to see why i hate chatting with him!

Dude you're a liar i will stick to my Jesus and JW family our Yes and No doesn't change if we say someone is a worshiper of our God that's it and if we say someone is not a worshiper of our God that's it we are unlike you who just don't want anything to be mentioned in Jesus name. Your approval of oteneaaron is because he kicks against Jesus that's all everything else is OK to you as long as he detests Jesus.
So keep your teachings to yourself if you can't convince oteneaaron first!

sonmvayina:
I detest the Torah too because of the killings and all, until I under stood it as a Kabbalah student.
Like I said, the laws are universal...maybe the culture whose laws he understands does not have the gory stories of killing. But he knows the laws and keeps them.
I know you keep some part of it too..our bone of contention is the first 3 which are basically the most important because it prohibits idolatry. I will do my best to make you see reason with me..

Like I said before, the Torah is not the all that ends all. It is just the Jewish take on the laws..

Brother that guy nah one-chance o!
That's why i always keep him in suspense!

Golden456:
A simple question: with, with what did God create Jesus?

It was similarly said that Lucifer was created Witten stones. Original creation also. Ezekiel 28: 13,14. it is true that the bible metion what precious stones that was use to create lucifer but the bible does not tell us if Jesus christ was still created with precious stones. All what i know is that it was written in the bible that Jesus christ was created by Jehovah.

Well that's the truth if you really want to know.

Only JWs are Christians but feel free to ask any question why we strongly believe only members of our group are Christians!

Tonytonex:
Thanks for your response.
However, your third reply isn't correct if you are serious. I'm a christian. Is that your believe that only jws are the only christians? That's misconception. It's absolutely wrong to think that.

I don't like wasting my precious time with faithless ones but if you think you have faith then go and ask Papa Canaanland Otta is open to you any time!

MightySparrow:
Haha, simple question?
Why are always dodging my questions?

tctrills:
Uncle I dey with you

tctrills:
You are just as bad as the family that abandoned the man. God never abandons his children even in their iniquity.
Isaiah 9:17 KJV: Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, ... all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
Even when we turn away from God and he is angry with us, his hand is still stretched out hoping we turn around again.

This is what you typed on the 16th and today is 23rd making 7 days ago.

Thanks for your time!

Thanks for your time.
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses taught by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
So once again thanks for your time it's been seven days now that you've been marking the register on this thread. You can now go back to your thread!

tctrills:
Looool. Nna your tone dey change small small. But I am liking it.

sonmvayina:
He knows the laws already..he is keeping them....
I am enjoining you to do so...we don't have to be members of a cult..

But he detests the Torah!

So you can lie like this?

Henceforth i will never ever take your words seriously again!

Oteneaaron who so much detests the Torah and you saying he is keeping it!

Go and learn from Papa!

MightySparrow:
Following your community truth brother.
Michael is the only original creation of God.
Others are secondary.


A simple question: with, with what did God create Jesus?

It was similarly said that Lucifer was created Witten stones. Original creation also. Ezekiel 28: 13,14.

tctrills:
Oga, I have no issue with JW and their funny beliefs. I just take you as my pet project. You always make me see how a religion can cook up funny false stories and intelligent men like you would swallow.

Intelligence is relative!
Each person can be intelligent in his or her own way but wisdom is what brings faithful people throughout the earth together because wisdom is not relative.

You have refused to SWALLOW as i did so go and prepare your own after all you don't have a pastor therefore you shouldn't be a pastor just prepare your own spiritual food and keep eating it all by yourself!

sonmvayina:
I have never said so..

So teach oteneaaron what the Torah says and let's see the outcome.
I'm waiting!

Queenttoast01:
2 Chronicles 7:14 - If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

This verse is talking about Israelites not other nations.
God gave that nation a constitution it's not the democracy thing where people from different religions come together to make a constitution so it's to this same constitution that their God is demanding their obedience, if they should go back to obeying those laws He will also play His part by keeping all His promises to them.

So it's not about people who chose rulers that will make rules for themselves! 1Samuel 8:11-18

No overdose!

You've known JWs stand now go and ask others their opinion after all it's not everyone claiming they believe this book that's JWs.

So go and find out what they have to say as for my side i've given you the perfect dosage you need for now!

tctrills:
Loooool
Oga the truth does not fear accusations. No matter the dose you bring, I have an answer for you.
You see where your guesswork religion has taken you? You now tell febles of angels having sexual hormones and a specific desire for females. Yet you claim angels are spirits without sex. And it gets more stupid because what is preventing other angels in heaven from coming down to have sex.
Back to 1 Peter 3 , if the angels you speak about were put in prison, how come Satan was not imprisoned for deceiving man?
You religion does not answer basic questions. I bet you boys are not allowed to ask meaningful questions in church.

tctrills:
First, God never said so. Secondly, this was before Noah and the ark. Thirdly, I am happy you called it guess work, now you see there could be a thousand better theories than your JW angel theory. So let's only dwell on what was revealed.
Now what is the revealed word.
The only people refered to as sons of God in your bible are men and Jesus Christ.

I already told you i won't give you an overdose so take the little i've given you and leave.

But if you feel like disgracing yourself you can start another thread to hear the opinions of others after all you've known JW's stand on what happened there.

The Bible was meant for only anointed brothers of Christ to teach others but if you feel you can understand it without them it's OK but one thing i will assure you:

You will never ever find a congregation that'll agree with you, each faithless miscreant like you will continue to oppose all authorities and obey none. Even the politics you carry in your head you can never ever find any authority that will go well with your thoughts talkless a congregation of worshipers. Luke 11:23

We are Jehovah's Witnesses! Remember that logo there's no religion on this planet in which members could have the same line of thought because they're not connected to Jesus! John 17:22

So my guy keep what you think you know since it makes you feel important to yourself!

OlawaleAsho:
Bola Tinubu Will Win 2023 Election, Beneficiaries Vows to Sacrifice all for Tinubu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zal69gTO9A8

Why must you guys drag this your politics to everywhere?
I think Ṣeun has created a section for politics so that politicians can say whatever they want there!

tctrills:
Many human marrying themselves are recorded in the bible. The aim of the bible is not to record tales by moonlight. But then most of the time in the bible, when the term Sons of God or children of God is used, it denotes the faithful follower of God. So if the faithful follower of God started marrying daughters of sinful men, using the term Sons of God marrying daughters of men would be perfect.

I hope this is not guesswork?

Because during Noah's time God's word said "there was no faithful human except Noah" {Hebrews 11:7} so where are your so called "sons of God" who are faithful to God yet failed to enter into the Ark with Noah and moreover where are they supposed to get faithful females to marry?

tctrills:
Nothing strange about it. The bible is not a record of strange tales

Well there is that's why God inspired Moses to pen down what happened that's not normal otherwise ordinary humans marrying themselves couldn't have been anything to emphasize after all God created females for males to marry among humans!

I won't give you overdose.
The INJECTION is already working in your body now so it's whatever you prove to be that will determine the next prescription you need.
Meanwhile you haven't answered the question what is strange in the so called "sons of God" marrying daughters of men if they're also humans?

tctrills:
No pains bro, I just enjoy making you look stupid. If you claim angels have no gender, then you should know that they couldn't have been attracted to women.
God never called Jesus Christ an angel. Insisting that angels are sons of God makes no sense if it was not stated in your bible.
Now this your dust theory could you prove with the bible?
So these days, when JW angels get Hot, what do they do.

No matter how this pain you reach just take heart because you will continue hurting yourself wanting to argue with a JW on what the scripture say, i once told you about the INJECTION of TRUTH you won't feel comfortable again after JWs has given you.
For almost a week now you've been coming only to my thread after saying you want to avoid me because i'm abusive but the results are out now you're the one reigning insults just because you don't have a rebuttal to what i pointed out to you in the scriptures.

In heaven angels have everything they need but they're all of the same nature no gender difference among them that's why when God said "let us make man in our own image" {Genesis 1:26} it was only Adam (male) that was created. It doesn't mean they have the physical structure of a man but it's the qualities we see in man they possess. It was later after Adam had named all other earthly creatures {Genesis 2:19-20} God noticed that Adam felt lonely then He decided to create a companion to complement Adam! Genesis 2:18

So the sons of God you read about are angels just like Jesus God called them "the Morning Stars" {Job 38:7} but Jesus is the firstborn of them all {Colossians 1:15} so he called himself the "Bright Morning Star" {Revelations 22:16} they are all sons of God that's why Satan who was also one of them could come right into their midst when they assemble before God's throne in heaven! Job 1:6

The dust of the earth used in creating bodies was still there after God created Adam so that's what those angels used to make finest, fittest bodies for themselves and coupled with their intelligent and abilities to provide whatever the ladies want all the females fell in love with them {Genesis 6:2} the unnatural mating led to the birth of giants on the planet {Genesis 6:4} that's why God used a stone to kill two birds:

God could just send fire from heaven to destroy those angels but instead he caused a great flood to wash away both the giants, the disobedient humans who mocked Noah and the dust the angels used to make bodies for themselves. When those angels saw that water has washed away everything they came for they dropped their fleshy bodies and return to heaven back as angels so God didn't give them a welcome instead He separated them from His loyal spirit sons! Jude 6 compare to 2Peter 2:4

You can now continue having your fun on the forum there's no need for this aggression!

tctrills:
This is why I warn you of this guesswork religion. The bible never told you that angels are sons of God but you have to force the story to fit your false narative.
So have angels stopped coming down to sleep with women
When your religion is all about guessing, a time comes that you start believing things that even a mad man would have problems believing. You are seeing crazy.

tctrills:
Was any of the JW angels female or gay? Do JW angels masturbate? Do JW angels have sex with other angels?
Would you want to leave your wife or daughter with a JW angel. And if the angel is gay, would you want to stay alone with such?These are the questions you should ask anyone teaching you such nonsense.
Let me know when you wake from your sleep so I can teach you using the scriptures.

tctrills:
Now you are getting desperate
For who in the heaven can be compared unto the Lord? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the Lord?
I don't see it talking about angels

Ọmọ go and sleep.

Angels are spirit sons of God because God is a spirit being too.
And as for Genesis 6:1-5
The angels has sex with female humans that's their crime but you can figure out what they did wrong if they're not angels as they married female humans o!

tctrills:
The sons of God shouted for joy not the angels of God.

Psalms 89:6

tctrills:
I knew you could not show any verse where angels slept with women. And it's a shame you need to do this. Now let's burst your bubble.
Note. In the entire bible, God has never refered to angels as his sons. Not in the old testament nor the new.
So from reading your bible, who has God referred to as his sons?
1. Christ
2. Men especially faithful men.
Not once was an angel called a son of God so you guys made that up.

Job 38:7

tctrills:
With you, I am always correct. Now read.

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6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

So can you explain who are the "sons of God that has sex with DAUGHTERS of men?"

And please tell everyone the evil humans could commit if they're marrying their fellow humans, perhaps they shouldn't marry the daughters of men sha!

tctrills:
Oga stop lying against God. God never said it was Angels. The verses you pointed out did not say so either. Angels slept with women is not written in your bible.

Quote it out for everyone to see before arguing nah!

Meanwhile the dead knows nothing according to God's word so their memories and anything about them is gone as long as they're DEAD! Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

So quote Genesis 6:1-5

And let everyone see if it's angels or not!