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bobestman:
how can a brainwashed robot like you controlled by your gb know what truth is? Jws are just like AI, they follow the orders of their gb. The ppl of the GOD OF HEAVEN are led by him alone and they hear him. Jws are spiritually blind and deaf AIs who worship a lesser god. You want to teach your ancestor truth abi

Present the worshipers of your god i'm presenting to the whole world the worshipers of the most high God Jehovah whose people are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

bobestman:
You christians should stop wasting your time. The secrets of the scriptures is not for you but the hebrews isa 44:7. Ancient Hebrews that wrote the book don't write with vowels. Everthing was in codes. Only those connected (initiates/priests) to them can tell you the true meanings. Impostors gave you the wrong names you use today. Yahweh/jehowah are lesser gods and impostors claiming to be the GOD Almighty. Many names in your bible lord, lord god and many more are codes for lesser gods who control ppl with religion. Their true names are enki, enlil etc. The true one is the GOD OF HEAVEN - jonah 1:9. The truth go shock when it comes. Make una enjoy vatican scripts 4 now

You're free to advise your friends to continue waiting for your truth which your god is going to reveal but anytime i see you on JW thread i will lash you with the truth that has already been revealed and manifesting in the gathering of imperfect humans!

MightySparrow:
An Ex-JWs knows more than a none member.
All the gray areas you and your brothers cover are made known to us.
Yet, you have not faulted their claims.
At least you know Papa.
We know GBpreneurs also.

MaxInDHouse:
We were all born atheists it's our parents, guardians and neighbours that change our thinking into believing this or that.
So when we grow up and discover that what we were taught has no substance most of us return to what we were before the indoctrination.
As for CHRISTIANITY that's the one and only religion commissioned by God's only begotten Son that's why true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) have the confidence to walk up to anyone and speak convincingly about our God. Romans 10:13-15

There's no other God out there that's why other religions can't speak convincingly because their gods are DEAD! Psalms 115:4-8

So if you can't present any group of people practicing pure worship ọmọ you've returned to the initial default mode: ATHEISM!

Ọmọ your friends are now ATHEISTS!

Guy as long as you can't present any group of worshipers practicing what your god teaches ọmọ you have returned to default mode: ATHEISM!

bobestman:
pls whenever you quote me don't bring that your jw nonsense into it. Tell that to spiritual babies. You guys are witnesses of yahweh the impostor god and also part of those who brainwash our ppl

bobestman:
Many wrong teachings in christiandom is turning many to athiests

We were all born atheists it's our parents, guardians and neighbours that change our thinking into believing this or that.
So when we grow up and discover that what we were taught has no substance most of us return to what we were before the indoctrination.
As for CHRISTIANITY that's the one and only religion commissioned by God's only begotten Son that's why true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) have the confidence to walk up to anyone and speak convincingly about our God. Romans 10:13-15

There's no other God out there that's why other religions can't speak convincingly because their gods are DEAD! Psalms 115:4-8

So if you can't present any group of people practicing pure worship ọmọ you've returned to the initial default mode: ATHEISM!

RussellRutherfo:
Active Publisher dey post.

What does God say about JW false predictions of 1918,1919, 1925, 1975, Beth Sarin House, etcetera ?

Wow!

Tell me something!
Are you saying Jokanem is one of my brothers?
That's awesome.
Thank you for showing me my brother!

MightySparrow:
So they talk about money also?
GBpreneurs!

NO money falls from the sky to print materials, Bibles and build Kingdom Halls!

Mr Biased Papa Oyedepo Churchgoer!

MightySparrow:
by Courz: 11:
Good question. They claim Jesus started ruling in 1914 because War started then and according to them, things got worse from that time. Unfortunately, that is totally false. Things didn't get worse from 1914 if you really do your research in history. Also, when you read the words of Jesus in different Bible verses, they expose 1914 to be wrong and has totally destroyed that doctrine. Even a typical JW cannot explain 1914. When I was a JW, I could never explain it. I have asked all of them in this forum to explain it and none of them could do it. What does that show? It shows it is a Lie. It is all made up. The first time they preached 1914, it was supposed to be the end of the world not the ruling of Jesus. When the world didn't end, Their founder changed it to be the Invisible coming of Jesus. Don't try to understand their doctrines. They make absolutely no sense. All their doctrines are figments of imaginations and delusions of their leaders. Their leaders do what we call Spirit Channelling. Google it. When you do, you will understand why their doctrines are strange, unbiblical and senseless and why they have many false prophecies. I personally think the Spirit beings they consult for all these doctrines are making a fool of them.
Note the bolded
This is another member of JWs o.
Is he persecuting you also?! In fact, he pointed your delusion.

Ọmọ they're not JWs but EX-JWs.
So ask them to tell us their religion now at least your own nah pentecostal winner chapel Papa Oyedepo church!

What faithless people failed to grasp is the fact that all humans have fallen short of the glory of God {Romans 3:23} so if we study each human around us we will always find one fault or another due to our sinful condition {Romans 7:15-25} that's why God sent His only begotten Son {John 3:16} to commission a movement of faithful people that will go and gather their kinds from all the nations {Matthew 28:18-20; Act 1:8} individuals coming together to form one BODY are imperfect just like everyone else so the only way this group will stand out is what results from their works {Matthew 7:16-18 compare to James 2:18-26} as a group! Ephesians 4:12

Therefore if anyone is complaining about the errors found among them that's normal after all it's a gathering of imperfect humans but what nobody can find elsewhere is a better performing group than the one where God's Holy Spirit is working in the midst of imperfect humans.
That's the greatest impossibility!
Because the works of the flesh in which each human dwells are recorded in the Bible book of Galatians 5:19-21: sexual immorality, uncleanness, brazen conduct, idolatry, spiritism, hostility, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, dissensions, divisions, sects, envy, drunkenness, wild parties! in each human these traits you will find (in parts) due to our imperfect/sinful nature! Romans 7:15-23

But due to the presence of God's Holy Spirit these same imperfect humans will form a body or group and instead of the works of the flesh to take over God's Holy Spirit will compel these imperfect humans and as a group they will yield the qualities that's not of imperfect human nature which is: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

This is why it's impossible for any critic to present a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP THAN JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES because God's Holy Spirit is not with any other group they will only exhibit part of the GIFTS of the spirit which could be found in false religions too but as for the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit only among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you will find it!

Jesus knew that fallen angels can work out the GIFTS of Holy Spirit in the midst of false religionists that's why signs like speaking in tongues, seeing visions, performing signs will be found in different religions like Hindu, Buddhist, Islam and African Traditional worship but as for the FRUIT of God's Holy spirit this is impossible for any demon to work out using imperfect humans so Jesus concluded saying:
"By their FRUITS (not gifts) you will know" Matthew 7:16

Who are those noisemakers out there?
What is their new found religion?
Let's here what they've got to say about it.
But go and tell them that the worshipers of the God who spoke in the Bible book of Isaiah 54:17 are here.
YES! We ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

jaephoenix:
Lol. You're such a self-important person.
If you read the history of Christianity you'll see the Crusades, Inquisition, Witch Trials where millions were threatened so as to convert them to Christianity, some killed because they refused to convert. Do you think there would be growth of christianity and thus birth of your precious JW if Emperor Constantine didn’t slaughter the Moors and thus export christianity to the Anglo Saxons who eventually brought it to Nigeria? All that blood and tears was for expansion of Christianity. If he didn't do it, the Arabs would have taken over, and more people in the world population would be Muslims. And of course, you'll be a Muslim, banging your head and disturbing us here about Allah being the greatest.

MaxInDHouse:
You missed the point again!
I was born a Muslim but carefully listened to the JWs to understand what the truth is all about.
So i converted for truth not the majority!

jaephoenix:
Same thing a Christian who converted to Sunni Muslim would say.
Truth is, its the same ol' religion, different tag.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you say a Christian?
Well my friend i am telling you now that that's the greatest impossibility!
You'll never ever find a JW convert to another religion and speak positively of his new religion. The only thing you will see ex-jws doing is complaining about JW organization but to speak convincingly about any other religion? That's impossible!
Do you know why? Because there is no better performing religion than JWs the one and only true Christian group!

Please make a thorough research and give me your report, try to find a single former JW who is now converted to any other religion talking convincingly about his new found faith the same way i does here.

If you find one i'm promising you that i will leave the JWs for such a religion.

That prophecy found at Psalms 115:4-8 is about all false religions and Isaiah 54:17 belongs to just one religion:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION!

MightySparrow:
Your community concern. What do is important to us is the truth told by Temple333.
The rest is noise
Hahahaha

So it simply means what's of interest to you is not what interests me that's why I keep telling all your friends:

Who are those noisemakers out there?
What is there religion?
Go and tell them that WE ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

jaephoenix:
Same thing a Christian who converted to Sunni Muslim would say. Truth is, its the same ol' religion, different tag.

Do you say a Christian?
Well my friend i am telling you now that that's the greatest impossibility!
You'll never ever find a JW convert to another religion and speak positively of his new religion. The only thing you will see ex-jws doing is complaining about JW organization but to speak convincingly about any other religion? That's impossible!
Do you know why? Because there is no better performing religion than JWs the one and only true Christian group!

Please make a thorough research and give me your report, try to find a single former JW who is now converted to any other religion talking convincingly about his new found faith the same way i does here.

If you find one i'm promising you that i will leave the JWs for such a religion.

That prophecy found at Psalms 115:4-8 is about all false religions and Isaiah 54:17 belongs to just one religion:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION!

MightySparrow:
Just providing a rebuttal. Temple333 is the telling us about your organization not me.
If he told lies just tell him you lied. I told you I am a pentecostal. Pentecostal. Pentecostal. . Your organization call Catholic Babylon the Great. Pentecostal pastors, pastorpreneurs etc. I don't have problems with that. You are entitled to your opinion. We don't cry and whine and feel persecuted. I don't feel any of those things. Every criticism is welcome including lies. We take them in good faith. I know there are many former pentecostals finding ' new light' in your organization. Let them boldly and tell their experiences.
There's nothing to hide. We collect offerings, tithes pledges, build schools, orphanages, rehabilitation centers serve in the military participate in partisan politics and take political positions,.... We believe in Trinity, hell, heaven, fiery judgment etc our own community truth. If you have anything against any or all of these. We are not bordered. We are waiting for your GB to seat beside Jesus on the Day of judgement. Still provide a rebuttal for Temple333's claim.

I copy the highlighted so what is of concern to us is the new religion that's better than the one we are practicing presently.
The rest is STORY STORY STORY for the Gods!

MightySparrow:
Yet you have denied his claims. He is telling us why left. That is all interest now. Where he is or going, he will (if he likes) discuss.

What is your interest in that anyways? To compare and criticize? How will that change his experience? How will that convince anyone?
You will want us to know that the deficiency of his New personal truth is the reason for your organization not to retain him?



I like to learn from the past , from people and events. In all spheres of learning, the theories
and principles that rule the world in any fields are from the people of the past.

So, what is your point?

What's the next step after discovering the evil in your former religion? Are you now an atheist?

amanda2013:
Jehovah witness people prayed after preaching to you? This your story get k-leg.

Because it's only Jehovah's Witnesses that are known for such zealous preaching anyone that comes around nah jehovah witness to some people like this OP o!

Someone left America and instead of talking about the country he now resides he continue talking about America saying American government and the citizens are evil.
Ọmọ any one in his right senses won't need the story of evil past but concerned about the Good News of the better place he now resides?
Well i don't know for you o but as for me i don't think any wise person will be interested in the stories rather it's the better new of where our friend now lives presently that's better than America.

It's like you're the type who loves stories of how Nnamdi Azikiwe, Amadu Bello and Awolowo ruled Nigeria instead of thinking about the way forward!

MightySparrow:
Hahaha
Your member Temple333 is the one accusing you. I have never attended JWs meeting. I only have people who mismanage their marriages and still qoute scriptures. I said I observe dishonesty pointed out by your own member. Your member. Just type where he is telling lies. I believe, like others, that without rebuttals that he is telling the truth.
All your saintly claims are not what he pointed out as a member who has experience nor my own observation. It is not my fault.
The reason I said truth is truth can be gleaned from what happens (your own side) and what doesn't ( Temple 333's side)

Go and read Matthew chapter 10

MightySparrow:
I observe the bolded as a none member. MaximumSide'and Janosky would not provide any rebuttals but irrelevant scriptures.

Have you seen JWs begging in your streets?

Well you can never find one because we take care of all the NEEDY in our midst.
Note the English "NEEDY" this doesn't mean the greedy who makes excuses to beg for WANTS. So instead of having beggars in your streets who are JWs we have equipped our own people to be self-sufficient so that they're contented with whatever they have be it little or much but because other religions infused the love of riches in the minds of their members even the ones who don't have anything WANTS to flunt material things hence all of you are greedy so begging is peculiar in your midst that's why you people give beggars money but as for JWs whenever we see any beggar we are 100% certain that such one is not a worshiper of JEHOVAH! Psalms 23:1; 37:25

jaephoenix:
Lol. You're such a self-important person.
If you read the history of Christianity you'll see the Crusades, Inquisition, Witch Trials where millions were threatened so as to convert them to Christianity, some killed because they refused to convert. Do you think there would be growth of christianity and thus birth of your precious JW if Emperor Constantine didn’t slaughter the Moors and thus export christianity to the Anglo Saxons who eventually brought it to Nigeria? All that blood and tears was for expansion of Christianity. If he didn't do it, the Arabs would have taken over, and more people in the world population would be Muslims. And of course, you'll be a Muslim, banging your head and disturbing us here about Allah being the greatest.

You missed the point again!

I was born a Muslim but carefully listened to the JWs to understand what the truth is all about.

So i converted for truth not the majority!

Templee333:
my aim here is to honestly expose ur hidden agenda. when you present a false front to the public to trap the weak and vulnerable, i have to tell them b4 they fall victims

Once again you're right because we aren't searching for WEAK and VULNERABLE but those whose faith in God is ROCK SOLID to associate with God's own people.

So thanks for keeping the weak ones away from us we are looking for soldiers in faith who will offer themselves willingly for the final showdown against Satan, demons and their human agents! Psalms 110:3

Templee333:
yes i am not ur kind, i don't have the gut to tell lies like u guys, neither do i rape children and hire lawyers to go and lie for me in court. So u are right, i am not ur kind and will never be.

False accusations here and there shey? Revelations 12:10

Thank you for admitting that you're not one of us so you're not in position to answer questions for us since you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses! 1John 2:18-19

At least honest hearted followers now know that you're not in position to answer for the group you're no longer associating with!

Templee333:
JWs deal with minor things like dressing,shaving of hairs,hours of field service,etc. but they ignore weightier matters like helping the needy and being honest.

Why do you love deceiving yourself?

How many JWs are beggars in your street? Psalms 23:1; 37:25

Which group is always having nightmares about the other group, Kumuyians or JWs?

OLAADEGBU:
[highlight]My organization is certainly living rent-free in your head 24\7

https://www.nairaland.com/7122263/word-watchtower-exegesis-john-1

https://www.nairaland.com/7218566/materials-jw-watchtower-society

https://www.nairaland.com/7168480/does-watchtower-organisation-control-jehovahs

https://www.nairaland.com/5243318/jehovahs-witnesses-many-false-prophecies

https://www.nairaland.com/2655453/jehovahs-witnesses-cult-exposed

https://www.nairaland.com/7077352/jehovahs-witnesses-resurrection-jesus

https://www.nairaland.com/7065060/jehovahs-witness-doctrine-not-bible

https://www.nairaland.com/5051153/jehovahs-witnesses-resurrection-jesus

jaephoenix:
Are you aware there were periods in World History when polytheism was virtually everywhere, and there were no christians. I guess Jehova/Yahweh was second or even tenth fiddle to the then popular gods, right? Or he was cowering in a cave?
Are you also aware that Christianity is waning by popularity globally, more so your JW business is dwindling, as evidenced by the sale of empty Kingdom Halls? Atheism and Islam are growing by the day, the former more than the later. Is your Yahveh aka Iehova getting more pussy?
Logical reasoning isn't a strong point of theism. So its no use doing it. They fail woefully

JEHOVAH isn't using force {Zechariah 4:6} so it is not expected to gain majority worshipers in fact Buddhists and Hindus have the greater number but the point is they will NOT SPEAK (be known with their preaching, teaching and activities) they will NOT HAVE LOVE JOY and PEACE (despite forcing their opinion on people they themselves will not be organized as they will continue to wage wars against themselves)

So what has islamists been telling you that has given you any reason to argue with them?
Or what Islamic group have you seen that's peacefully working together as one family of faith in their God?

That's what JEHOVAH promised about His own worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

What do you know about PRAYER?

Because this is what Jesus said about PRAYER:

“You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth" Matthew 6:9-10

And apostle John added:

And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that no matter what we ask according to his will, he hears us. 1John 5:14

Going by the highlighted in red God doesn't listen to all prayers except those that's according to His will. So find out what God's will first before praying otherwise you're just talking to tin air! Matthew 6:2

May you have PEACE!

OLAADEGBU:
Your mental assent of the word repent would do you no good if you refuse to repent.
That is what you are there to do within 3 minutes, to either remind or inform him of what he is to repent of. Unfortunately, you cannot give what you don't have.
My pastor is certainly living rent-free in your head 24\7. Repent and believe the gospel!

Kumuyi has finished you with brainwashing.

Even though you see what the Bible says about Jesus it's Kumuyi's three minute setup you prefer.

Dude you can now go and meet your pastor i have taught you what the Bible REALLY teach!

OLAADEGBU:
"And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?" (1 Peter 4:18).

It is good that you realise that you are not a child of God by admitting that you are not my brother. If my brother would be in danger of hell fire for calling his brother a fool what do you think will be the destiny of an outsider?

Go and worship with your brothers it's Sunday?

OLAADEGBU:
It is clearly proven that you've got nothing to offer the dying man within 3 minutes so stop flogging a dead horse with your semantics. You need help before you begin to preach to others. Hear and read what the Lord wants from you at this juncture: Repent and believe the gospel!

Now this is the full meaning of the word "REPENT"

To feel pain, sorrow, or regret for what one has done or omitted to do; the cause for repenting may be indicated with "of".

So you don't even know the meaning of what you're typing.

Someone must have known what he's supposed to do either through reading or hearing it in the past just as those two thieves did not that someone hasn't heard anything before he is living justly from his mental disposition then you walk up to him and ask him to repent. Ọmọ repent of what?

Dude Kumuyi has finished you with brainwashing!

OLAADEGBU:
Read what Jesus says you are in danger of:

"But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire" (Matthew 5:22).

So what would you tell a dying man who has no knowledge of Jesus within 3 minutes to save his soul?

And who made you my brother?

You that you preferred an alligator's visit than that of preachers?

Omo you're not my brother in any way!

Moreover apostle Paul called Galatians "FOOLISH" for turning away from the faith in Christ Jesus {Galatians 3:1} so if you're arguing blindly over what Jesus taught yet calling the one reminding you "devil" simply because you want to support a useless old man claiming man of God surely you're a FOOL.

OLAADEGBU:
So what would you tell a dying man who has no knowledge of Jesus within 3 minutes to save his soul?

What did Jesus (not Kumuyi) taught you in that instance?
I quoted God's word but you ignored it.
Those who never heard God's word before will be remembered if they lived by conscience {Romans 2:14-15} it's only those who have heard and ignored that will be judged for rejecting the Good News {John 3:16-18} at that time what a dying man who doesn't believe in God needs is not preaching because his brains can't comprehend within three minutes what he supposed to have learned through careful reading, diligent study, thorough meditatio, fervent prayer and associating with fellow believers.
So if he dies in his ignorance but he lived all his life as a prisoner of conscience Jesus will raise him from the dead.
WHY?
Because he lived by the golden rule:

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean" Matthew 7:12

That's the truth as found in the Bible not as your daddy Kumuyi thinks!

Aemmyjah:
Who's stupid?
Comparing the relationship of a Man and his son to that of a older man and his attendant

He's one of those arrogant churchgoers who often feel like he's relevant but i always cut him off my mention because of his attitude if you proved to be more knowledgeable than him the next thing is cursing and insulting you.

Nobody has ever commended him for his comments so he opened three accounts using it interchangeably to commend himself but after he was discovered by other Nairalanders he stopped using the other two accounts.

So i always ignore him but then he often come quoting me seeking attention!

Tonytonex:
issokay. May God help us all.

Thanks for your time do enjoy the rest of the day and may you have PEACE!