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AntiChristian:
You are watchtower brainwashed!

Of course brainwashed never to support anyone in killing my neighbours. Isaiah 2:2-4

But you aren't brainwashed when you support the killing of your fellow Muslims with whom you traveled to Mecca, climbed Arafat, kiss and bow to the black stone yet at the call of racism and politics you will shoot him at sight.

Ọmọ i love my own brainwashing walahi talahi!

oteneaaron:
Lol
What a rhetorical question.
Wisdom like many other things, is relative.
For example - As a Jehovah's Witness, you believe that your Jesus is Angel Micheal who came back to earth invisibly in 1919 - does that make you wise?

You stylishly dodge the question just to cover with another thing entirely.

The question again:

Whatever they concluded before gathering, preaching and worshiping in Jesus name are Jesus' believers wise?

Of course as a JW 1919 has made us wise but you have to answer the question before we digress!

Janosky:
You have started throwing tantrums , abuse and WAILING which won't help you.

When he came here to tell lies and his friends swallowed it hook line and sinker he thought JWs won't expose him.
How can he start calling someone "demon" for engaging him and expect that person to begin exchanging words with him? Proverbs 17:14

ChristisGod:
In a convo with one Jw guy, he incessantly mocked the Bible's position that Jesus is The Almighty God, citing that, Jesus 'received' Glory, Power and Honour. To This jw, since Jesus received these, it presupposes He received them from a superior entity so Jesus is not God. Then I referred him here :

Revelation 4:11
“You are worthy, O Lord, To [b]receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they
exist and were created.”[/b]

He ended the convo

Compare the highlighted to 1Corinthians 15:27-28

I believe after reading carefully you will know that by the end of Christ's 1,000 years reign as King of God's Kingdom {Revelations 20:6} he must subject himself to someone greater than him. Perhaps that person is not the Almighty but when you're done reading let's know who that person is.

May you have PEACE!

AntiChristian:
The word actually never appear!
Christian is not Christianity!
And being Christ-like is not a religion!

Says brainwashed you!

tctrills:
So you know that the promises of no more war and peace on earth is a future thing. If God felt war was a sin, there would not have been the war in heaven. It seems we are beginning to get it right.

Of course it's a future thing when all warmongers are exterminated just as adulterers will be destroyed.
So all those going to wars now are disobeying the last order from our commander Jesus Christ that's why they won't fit in God's Kingdom where we must forgive and let go of injuries instead of nursing it until it will turn to killings here and there!

oteneaaron:
MaxInDHouse can you show the evidence of where I have called people who believe in Jesus "Fools"? For everyone reading this, I have done my own in-depth research into the ancient history of religion, and I still haven't seen any tangible archeological proof that shows Jesus really existed. Instead, my research points more to the fact that the story of Jesus is only a myth that teaches the allegorical concept that there is a spark of divinity in every man and woman. For better context, Max and I had a debate around this subject and he couldn't show me any proof either. Here is a link to the debate - https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

Are Jesus' believers wise?

MightySparrow:
I will watch again the video where Stephen Lett called people apostates.

Go and watch again and again and again we only refer to ex-jws as Apostates not nonejws.

zoer:
All those exJWs is there anything good about the organization?...if yes can you guys please tell us?....and if no please tell us the negative things about them.

If you're buying something from someone and you later discovered his stuff aren't good for you sebi you will move to another seller of the stuff?
Please help me ask Templee333 and oteneaaron where they now worship after leaving JW organization!

zoer:
Why should any topic about JW results to fight and insults on this forum

Thanks for this question!

Well the answer is simple, Jesus said:

“But before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you, handing you over to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name". Luke 21:12

The reason why all these people with different doctrines and opinions often converge to oppose JWs is because only JWs are the true Christians!

Note that oteneaaron doesn't even believe Jesus is real, in fact according to him anyone claiming faith in Jesus is a fool and sparrow claims he's a pentecostal yet at the mention of "JWs" they quickly become friends! Luke 23:12

MightySparrow:
You see am so?
If you are different from their dogma you are an apostate.
They sit in the seat of a judge.

I may ignore you and your questions but when you err about our beliefs i will correct you!

The person you're responding to knows the truth that we don't call anyone who has not been a JW "Apostates"
For instance you are an unbeliever to me that's why i often answer you differently but after discovering that you're just out to create tension i decided to let you be.
So you're not an Apostate until you get baptized as one of JWs and turn back that's when you can rightly be called "APOSTATE"

tctrills:
So Jesus preached end to war on earth but it took another 1914 years before heaven could compile. Oga your war doctrine makes no sense.
Remember, it's thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven but in the JW case the will was on earth before heaven. Very up side down religion. Don't you think so?

I think it's what Jesus ended in heaven what he's coming to end on planet earth which is BADNESS and that's why he asked us to pray for God's will to be done on earth as it is in heaven because after Armageddon badness will end on this planet!

tctrills:
Yes, you have been my go to for laughs. So congratulations.
As for wars we both agree that God has never been against wars. The only difference between us is that you convinced yourself that God changed his war policy after 1914.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa.
It was the day Jesus walked the planet preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom that believers in the God of Abraham stopped thinking about anyone as enemies to be killed.

God's word was revealing things gradually until it's completion in the Bible book Revelations.
So if you read about God's people going to wars it was before Jesus walked this planet but afterwards no true believer in the God of Abraham will pick up weapons against anyone again!

oteneaaron:
Interesting.
Thank you for reminding me about updating the thread you mentioned above.
Sonmvayina, I think we should resume our book review - what do you think?

Great!
So go and convince your friends claiming they believe Jesus first before coming to Maximus!

tctrills:
Wars are no sin. No scriptures claims that war is a sin. As for high BP, I actually use you post to lower my BP.
You are a beautiful distraction.

See self judgment!
So of all Nairalanders Maximus has been your doctor when it comes to the treatment of HBP yet you're always arguing against the same person!
Ọmọ you're condemning yourself now!

As for WARS i've schooled you enough so if you want to kill your fellow believers forget about the Bible because it was inspired of God and beneficial for setting matters straight among believers {2Timothy 3:16} that's what makes JWs fully competent and completely equipped {2Timothy 3:17} to be a real Christian family who will never support to raise weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:2-4

oteneaaron:
Lol.
I know your modus operandi.
You don't have to remind me.

Good!
So whatever you want Max to accept from you:

https://www.nairaland.com/7464041/pagan-christ-book-review

First convince your friends here before coming to Max?

tctrills:
What are you talking about? Did redeem get their members by sleeping. They clearly are far better at preaching than JW.
Redeem as a group does not kill anyone so what are you talking about.
No one every gave you the title of the most peaceful group

So politicians and military men in Redeem will not kill their fellow believers in another country or use thugs to deal with their fellow believers who are of the opposition party?

Why you wan kill yourself nah?

This is Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

If you want to get HBP continue responding to my post sebi you said you're catching fun so why crying all over the place for honesty during fun times nah?

A be your Papa for intelligence i'm not like you that puts up scores of threads asking questions and giving no tangible answer to your questions, when i ask a question i provide the answer immediately so whoever disagree can go for answers elsewhere even Jesus of Nazareth never satisfied everybody in his time when responding to questions.

Majority thought he was mad! Mark 3:21; John 10:20
Many strongly believe he was lying! John 8:33
Only a few believe him and God is pleased with the few! John 1:11-12

So my guy it's not by force if you feel what i'm saying is not true go and find your truth elsewhere but thinking you can challenge a JW in Bible debate i will always make you the scapegoat!

oteneaaron:
Lol
That is his Modus Operandi.
Worse case, he would start raining insults on you.

Let's enter it together nah and see who will be the first to throw insults, have you forgotten it's Max? I will drill your brains intelligently until you start crying foul! foul!! foul!!!

I no be your mate!

Meanwhile your friend claimed he's pentecostal church member, oya tell him his beloved Jesus never existed!

There is hope for whoever is among the living, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they no longer have any share in what is done under the sun. Go, eat your food with rejoicing, and drink your wine with a cheerful heart, for already the true God has found pleasure in your works. May your clothing always be white, and do not fail to put oil on your head. Enjoy life with your beloved wife all the days of your futile life, which He has given you under the sun, all the days of your futility, for that is your lot in life and in your hard work at which you toil under the sun.  Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going. Ecclesiastes 9:4-10

tctrills:
I understand you are millions in your group but that is no reason not to accept the teachings of Christ Apostles. You are not the only group with millions of members. If you are looking for millions, go to Redeem. And as of being a liar, even you admitted that you are a liar so no one is contesting your crown with you bro

Redeem where Adeboye said those eying his position are going diabolical to remove him because of the riches involved shey?

So can you tell this forum what the millions in other groups have done regarding Jesus' order to:
Preach and teach from house to house? Matthew 10:11-13
Love their enemies instead of killing them? Matthew 5:43-48
Have the same line of thought? John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10
Globally known as the most peaceful group? Matthew 10:16
Make active disciples who will also go on preaching and teaching in all their neighbourhood? Matthew 28:19-20

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself!

Janosky:
Nah your fellow 3 deities worshipper opened this thread and you agreed with their posts.
Pls,Leave JWs out of your delusion.

He has committed suicide so i don't have to worry over whatever comes from him again.

Imagine someone BLASPHEMING the Holy Spirit publicly saying Jesus' work is in vain yet claiming he belongs to Jesus!

How can someone say he believes in Jesus who promised that his disciples will continue preaching zealously, industriously teaching and making disciples {Matthew 28:18-20} due to the support of God's Holy Spirit {Act 1:8} open his mouth to say there is no group of persons practicing what Jesus laid down just because he doesn't want to humble himself before Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 12:31-32

Ever since i've injected him with the truth he's been running after me asking if i will accept him as my fellow believer but after he left the forum for some time he returned only to resume his criticism claiming he is pentecostal.
OK "go and hold onto your pentecostal" mba o!
It's JWs that must agree with him even though he couldn't present any pentecostal before his friends for approval because they will reject all gatherings of faithful people but he wants JWs to accept him as our fellow believer.
So since i said "NO" he is bitter calling me vile names yet shouting "PEACE"

Janosky:
Sparrow,you abused me & you are at the same time shouting "peace".
Nah your mumu self you dey deceive. grin
Until you determine the exact time the rule of the Jewish king (permitted by Nebuchadnezzar) ended, & the time span of Cyrus rulership, you and your deluded folks would continue to post GIBBERISH.

tctrills:
Oga forget my definition of humility. You are claiming to know better than the Apostles of Jesus Christ. That is called foolish arrogance. So instead of misrepresenting the words of Christ start by humbling yourself

Good you remember that they were many Apostles subjecting to the same line of thought as one body.
Ọmọ present something of that nature today as the group practicing what Jesus taught.
Because i'm subjecting myself along with millions across the globe to a body of elders so that we have the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} as Jesus prayed for {John 17:22} because in the absence of that you're the arrogant liar here o!

tctrills:
When you talk of humility, that's what you lack. An Apostle of God teaches that we are all offsprings of God but some guy named MaxInDHouse says Paul is wrong. Do you even know the meaning of humility? Stop asking me to be humble because you have no idea of the meaning of that word.

You can define humility anyhow you want but one thing is sure:
If you can't present any group of people with whom you've subjected yourself to the same rules and code of conduct ọmọ you're really an arrogant person.

When Jesus said we should search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} he was actually referring to humble humans who have subjected themselves but to the wrong group so we search for them and bring them to God's organization.
If i'm not humble do you think i will subject myself to the teaching of any group?
Well just like you all religions are scamming people so they don't worth subjecting to.

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

tctrills:
I choose to believe Paul over you. Reflection of ones traits does not make you his offspring.
To prove you are lying as usual, the people Paul was speaking to were not even followers of Christ yet he acknowledged that we all are offsprings of God.
The people of Athens did not reflect God's traits yet they were offsprings of God. To lie no dey tire you?

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn!

All humans aren't qualified to be called God's children after the event in the garden of Eden {Romans 3:23} but when someone humbles himself to learn what God's righteousness means God takes him in as His child {Zephaniah 2:2-3} as for arrogant people like you who can't subject themselves to any form of rules binding on others you can't cross the line! Luke 16:26

AntiChristian:
But your book never mentioned Christianity nor Judaism!

Perhaps you need to know where the word first appear! Act 11:26

What your book says is of no relevance if with your Allah, Qur'an, Muhammad and Islam you people can't secure LOVE, JOY and PEACE in any of all the different sects claiming Muslims on this planet.

Once politics or racism calls the same person with whom you climbed Arafat is no longer your brother because instantly he becomes your enemy that you should kill at a go!

tctrills:
Stop pretending to be daft. If you adopt a child he is not you offspring.

You're the daft one here because God never birthed anyone so the word offspring in God's word in relation to God or Satan simply means the attitude or qualities of the person you reflect as a person.
So those who reflect God's qualities are called His offspring and those that reflects the traits of Satan are regarded as his offsprings.
That's why Jesus keeps emphasizing on the qualities he took after his father the only true God!

AntiChristian:
So the religion Christ Practiced actually had no name till Christ died and some unknown disbelievers in Christ gave some people a name? Seems you don't get my point! During the lifetime of Jesus, there was no religion named Christianity! No one was called a Christian.
Islam was the religion during the time of Muhammad and he called himself a Muslim.Yes, Muhammad was a Muslim. He called himself one.
Allah called the disciples of Jesus Muslims in the Qur'an.Allah also called Moses, Noah and Abraham Muslims.
In fact all Prophets are Muslims in Islam.

It's written in a book that you took seriously so it's your own book that says so not what all books say!

tctrills:
See how criminal you are? So you knew that the bible called certain people children of vipers so why lie? Why did you claim that the bible called them offsprings of vipers.
Now you would pretend you don't know the difference so let me tell you. One could be a child by adoption but an offspring is a child you reproduce. There is a big difference. So the bible never called some people the offspring of vipers as you claimed. Stop the dishonesty.

Ọmọ offspring and children means the same thing stop lying so the Bible called humans offsprings of both God and Satan!

God never birthed anyone he created us all so only those ready to do His will are called His children (offspring) {John 1:11-12} as for those that turned away from His righteous decrees He denounce them! Deuteronomy 32:5

tctrills:
We were having a Debate in English. You thought you could out smart me by going to your Yoruba bible. When would you learn that you can never deceive me. I am not you gullible members.

Ọmọ forget all these STORY and quote what is found written in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33

"When e see many Pharisee people and Sadducee people wey de come where e de baptize people, e come ask them say: “Una wey be children of vipers, who warn una say make una run comot from the punishment wey God de bring?" Matthew 3:7

Your dodging styles won't work now!

tctrills:
Stop being foolish. You know I don't understand Yoruba. And we both know you have access to an English bible. Clearly you are not a transparent person.
Just so you know, I used google translate and it shows you are lying as usual

I said "quote what you found in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33"
Let everyone see who is lying nah!

I quoted the KJV Yorùbá translation for others to see that God's word called humans both God's children as well as Satan's children! John 8:44

So who has been arguing with the Bible now?

tctrills:
Oga Matthew never called us offspring of serpent. Please be honest with the way you quote the scriptures. No verse said man is the offspring of serpent. Please stop the dishonesty already.

Oya quote what is written in the Bible book of Matthew 3:7 & 23:33 nah!

MATIU 3:7
Ṣugbọn nigbati o ri ọ̀pọ awọn Farisi ati Sadusi wá si baptismu rẹ̀, o wi fun wọn pe, Ẹnyin ọmọ paramọlẹ, tali o kìlọ fun nyin lati sá kuro ninu ibinu ti mbọ̀?
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?


For your information the bolded in red means offsprings or children of serpent.

So i ask you again "did Satan bear children?"