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Nawa4nl:
There is no place God forbade blood transfusion
The Advantages of Blood transfusion outweighs the disadvange.
Stop pushing doctrines of men as commandments of God
Colossians 2:22
Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?

I don't get you. If you choose to accept blood transfusion nobody is stopping you you're the one complaining about what others choose as their own beliefs.
So if i believe blood transfusion is unhealthy and you believe it's OK for you there's no need for arguments, you continue with your beliefs while i continue with mine.
Many have died due to the Hazards of blood transfusion but if you think it's not true that's not my own problem.
I'm not forcing what my own God say on you after all my God differs from yours so worship yours while i worship mine!

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Nawa4nl:
Quote from the bible or are Jehovah Witnesses a medical cult now?
Knifes kill so stop buying knifes �

Ọmọ i no dey quote Bible for you again sebi nah you talk sey the matter no be spiritual but health issues?

Nawa4nl:
This a medical issue not a spiritual or biblical doctrine.

Oya read the Hazards of blood transfusion from health personels themselves now, abi nah Bible or JWs talk am?

The fear of JEHOVAH is the beginning of WISDOM! Proverbs 9:10

NNTR:
If only more christians, properly and correctly read their bibles, there'd be less christians and/or less Constantine christians

And who told you that you're not one of the followers of Constantine?

NNTR:
God isnt just not only omnipotent and omniscient, but concurrently is omnipresent and omnibenevolent too. It is an incontrovertibly truth that God is

As for the Bible God this are His own WORDS:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21

“Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.” Genesis 22:12

Is the Bible God omniscient know everything?
Is the Bible God omnipresent everywhere?

His own statement made it clear that the answer to the two questions is capital NO!

Courz:
Why are you denying your founder? Is it because he was a Freemason, adulterous and a Con artist? Why are you denying him when Watchtower has never denied him in your history books and your history videos? Have you watched any of your Organisation's history videos? Why does Watchtower say that Russell is still managing your Preaching work from the dead?

Insanity na bad thing o!

How can someone whose ideas and beliefs is no longer in force be the founder of a group?

Oteneaaron oya use the other moniker i'm ready for you o.
If you don't understand the picture Hazards of blood transfusion go and show it to professional medical personnels for further enlightenment. They will tell you why blood transfusion is the last option they can go for!

oteneaaron:
With your deep thoughts, kindly answer these questions:

What is the legal name of your organization?

Who registered that name?

Whose name is on the certificate of incorporation?

Find below a screenshot of the original incorporation document of 1884.

Whose name do you see there as one of the signatures?

For the benefit of the public, to view this 98-page incorporation document from 1884, please use the link below - -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TKwzB4wLE6nVkgQPP7GH1sBqAio1wpTz/view

What is the name Russell's group were called?

What is the name we are called today?

For your information so many people signed documents into bills that doesn't mean they're the founder of the belief system as long as what they believe back then has been AMENDED!

Jehovah's Witnesses organization no longer believe so many things Russell and his team believe back then, it's the new beliefs that drew me in not what Russell and his team believed in their time so reasonably you can't tell me that i'm a member of Russell's religion when i never accepted what he believed!

Courz:
Why are you denying your founder? Is it because he was a Freemason, adulterous and a Con artist? Why are you denying him when Watchtower has never denied him in your history books and your history videos? Have you watched any of your Organisation's history videos? Why does Watchtower say that Russell is still managing your Preaching work from the dead?

Keep on crying!

Logically someone whose ideas is no longer in force can't be rightly called the founder of a group so your insanity can't change facts!

oteneaaron:
Kindly show us raw data that proves that millions of people are dying due to blood transfusion. Numbers do not lie, so please show us this evidence. Thanks.

Read through the Hazards of blood transfusion and ask any health personel to explain to you because whoever has been transfused with blood once is at high risk of a million times than those who never had blood transfusion!

Nawa4nl:
This a medical issue not a spiritual or biblical doctrine. After all people die From car accidents, why not stop all Jehovah Witnesses taking cars

So do you now publicize the death of people that died due to using animals for traveling to justify their refusal of car traveling?

oteneaaron:
WOW.
Have you read the history book of your organization, the Organized to Jehovah's will book?
How can you say that Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of the Jehovah's Witness organization?
What is the legal name of your organization?
Is it not WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF PENNSYLVANIA?
Who registered this legal name?
Was it not Charles Taze Russell himself?
Stop all these bald faced lies please.

Ọmọ it was John the baptist that prepared the way for Christianity in the first century but is he the founder?

Did Jesus called his group CHRISTIANS?

Your shallow thoughts can't becloud the sense of everyone Sir!

Bodmum:
Respect other people's beliefs and live longer.

More and much more are dying due to blood transfusion but the News are hidden from the masses!

Millions are dying due to blood transfusion so if anyone dies because they reject transfusion that means such a person can't be saved even when transfused.

God's word (Bible) is not a science textbook but it clearly says the intake of blood is dangerous to our health! Act 15:28-29

SeniorMan715:
You guys keep convincing me how shallow your reasoning and understanding is how can you say Russell was the founder of jw, it just showed you never understood anything you were just a pretence, instead of you to clarify the truth you are here talking out of speculations.

SeniorMan715:
Charles Russell was among sincere Bible students who began a systematic analysis of the Bible, They compared the doctrines taught by the churches with what the Bible teaches, and began publishing what they learned. The goal of Russell and the other Bible Students was to promote the true teachings of Jesus and to follow the practices of the first-century Christian, Jesus is the Founder of Christianity. Many of the things the bible students taught has been charged Russell and the group only played a part in journey to discover pure worship he wasn't the founder!

The founder of a group is their paramount teacher whose opinion must be carefully considering and anyone contradicting his words or ideas is no longer one of his disciples!

Russell was called PASTOR which is no longer in use among JWs today, he celebrates birthdays (Christmas) which is no longer practiced in the group today, he believes so many things that has been amended today.

It's like saying John the baptist is the founder of Christianity since he started the baptism stuff and also baptized Jesus. But most things John believed has changed.

So how can someone in his right senses say Russell is the founder of the group whose name he never dreamt of?
In his time the group he led as a pastor is known as International Bible Students Association (IBSA) the group broke after his death and many other groups sprang up in his name still following his teachings except the group whose name is known today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. So in what way could he be the founder?

SeniorMan715:
Charles Russell was among sincere Bible students who began a systematic analysis of the Bible, They compared the doctrines taught by the churches with what the Bible teaches, and began publishing what they learned. The goal of Russell and the other Bible Students was to promote the true teachings of Jesus and to follow the practices of the first-century Christian, Jesus is the Founder of Christianity. Many of the things the bible students taught has been charged Russell and the group only played a part in journey to discover pure worship he wasn't the founder!

Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Come and see excellence in power of reasoning!

Hismasterpiece:
By everyone do you mean Christians?

Hismasterpiece:
LOL.. When you die and go there e go shock you

I don't believe i'm going to heaven so that's makes me an unbeliever in your own Jesus so do you still think i can go to your heaven without believing in your own Jesus?

OkCornel:
I’m amazed at how people misunderstand Paul’s Epistles.
1 Corinthians 13 v 8 -13;
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.
11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.
12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love
MaxinDHouse, please when exactly did Paul mention the gifts of the Spirit would cease?
The bolded parts of the scriptures should make things clearer.
Where did Jesus mention the gifts of the spirit would cease? Where did Jesus mention signs and wonders will cease?!

OkCornel:
Now it’s deflection time?
Does asking questions suddenly imply I’m no longer humble?

You can’t lie to your conscience forever. When you stand before God and He searches your heart, just know you have no excuse.

You called me an enemy of the TRUTH. We will see at the end of days who is truly the enemy of TRUTH

Guy, there's no need for endless arguments the highlighted settled it all , if you believe i'm LYING and i believe you're an ENEMY of TRUTH it's clear that both of us are not on the same page.

So the Gods we worship differs!

OkCornel:
If these gifts would cease according to your understanding, how would the two witnesses in Revelation 11 v 3-6 perform their work?

OkCornel:
Revelation 11 v 3-6;
3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
4 They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”
5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die.
6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.
MaxinDHouse, where did Jesus mention the gifts of the Spirit would cease to operate? And by when?

All you need is humility to make yourself teachable in the midst of true Christians, all these has been fully explained to God's people but since you're not ready to humble yourself you're giving literal meaning to symbolic terms that Jesus used to convey a message to his BORN AGAIN brothers who must explain to the congregation what he's saying.

The two witnesses aren't literal humans but a group of people working with Jesus in the last hour, they will break all the falsehood Satan used to blindfold billions for centuries and if Satan's agents tries to stand up against them they will condemn such ones with the truth protruding out of their mouth! Isaiah 54:17

But all these are deeper things that you need to humbly request a Bible study to understand otherwise you will continue deceiving yourself saying those who aren't agreeing with your literal interpretation are worshiping the same God with you whereas they're contradicting what you're saying!

OkCornel:
Where exactly did Jesus mention these gifts would cease to exist and by when?

I thought you said you know the TRUTH?

Well Jesus declared that miraculous healings and it's imminent benefits belongs only to Israelites {Matthew 15:21-24} as for whether it will continue or not Jesus told them that God's Holy Spirit will continue teaching them the rest {John 16:12-13} he singlehandedly picked Paul as a teacher in Christianity {Act 9:15} so it's Paul that Jesus chose to explain Christianity to none Israelites like you and me {1Timothy 2:7} so if you ignore Paul's statement that those gifts will cease {1Corinthians 13:8-10} and you can't present any group of people performing real miracles yet anticipating miracles after all these facts then you don't have anything to do with the TRUTH in fact you're an enemy of TRUTH!

ebubeson:
"let your light so shine before men that they may see your good work and glorify your father which is in heaven"

The above is what Jesus said at Matthew 5:16 he wasn't talking to individuals but to his group of followers. His group needs to do the work he assigned to them so that everywhere they go people may say "this are the followers of that Jewish carpenter who claimed he is the Christ" of course his first century disciples did just so that's why the inhabitants of Antioch after careful observation began calling them by the group name "CHRISTIANS" Act 11:26

This is the light that must shine throughout the earth as a witness to all the nations {Matthew 24:14 compare to Act 1:8} but Satan intelligently infused his own agents among the first century Christian congregation {Matthew 13:25 compare to 1John 2:18-19} that's why many sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are all claiming Christians today. But Jesus is around now separating his true disciples since 1914 and after a thorough separation his father began calling the unique group by another name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

That's the group whose light is shining brightly globally as everyone can see the WORKS of FAITH they're doing without letup! James 2:18-26

May you have PEACE!

OkCornel:
How exactly does the Truth differ from the Lord of the JWs? Are you so intent on defending an institution at the expense of the Truth?

With the below comment it shows you are not ready to accept the TRUTH!

OkCornel:
So JWs heal the sick, raise the dead etc in Jesus’ name?

The truth (Jesus) declared that miraculous gifts and it's imminent benefits only belongs to Israelites {Matthew 15:24} so after the establishment of the Christian congregation it was revealed that such gifts will no longer exist {1Corinthians 13:8} because the Bible God's message to mankind will soon be completed {1Corinthians 13:10} hence whoever wants to worship God must do so based on the LOVE they have for God not to expect any miraculous healing! 1Corinthians 13:13

That's why you can't find REAL miracles today but deceit here and there, so if you don't agree that the Bible is complete as the word of our own God then in what way do you expect us to agree that you know the TRUTH?

OkCornel:
The God of JWs is not the God of all flesh?

He's closely related to those willing to work with Him that's why He always call Himself
"the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" {Exodus 3:6} only those associating with these men could become His true friend because it's only through what these men are doing that anyone can make friend with our God!

OkCornel:
The Lord (not Max) knows those who are his.
We will find out the true worshippers of the Lord at the first resurrection.

Your Lord differs from our Lord that's why you are not ready to work with the workers of our own Lord! 1Corinthians 8:5

In the midst of those submissive to our own Lord we all have the same line of thought throughout the earth {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10} so if you don't have the same line of thought with us it simply means your Lord is not the same as ours! Luke 11:23

MiddleDimension:
More like...inspiration equals dictation.
Those are Jehovah's witnesses, don't pay attention to them.

Thanks for this advice!
It's either he pay rapt attention to what we say about our God or he goes and worship his own God elsewhere. If you're not one of JWs the God of JWs doesn't know you!

OkCornel:
2 Timothy 2 v 19;
Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”
Dear Max, have you taken the place of the Lord to determine those who are his? Hmmm?
Are you going to be seated on the right hand of God at the end of days to determine who makes it into the kingdom or not?

If you agree that you're worshiping the same God with all the religions claiming they believe in God that's fine by you but our own God has standard and once you aren't ready to do things by His standard you can't fit in our midst so you're not one of us!

SeniorMan715:
Shallow

SeniorMan715:
Was GB the basic reason why you left ?

Now you're getting the drift of course their thinking is SHALLOW!

paxonel:
ok
Why is the op saying that Jesus is the most capable leader approved by God compared to Tinubu, Obi or Atiku?

That's why i came in saying:

We must stay on a low key until they're through with their election

Please ignore that part of the post and forget about Jesus for now, here are the candidates you're free to pick your choice.

Wish you well in whatever choice you make Sir!

ReubenSandwich:
I think that's a good way of looking at it. I also think of it as bringing out the best in people, in society, and in the world around us.
I think that the best knowledge of right and wrong is in the words of the God's messengers, but I don't think that people have to believe that God exists to agree about what's right and wrong and to live together peacefully.

The highlighted is where majority lack wisdom {Hosea 4:6} if we are both intelligent beings (humans) our point of view on right and wrong will never agree unless there is a SUPREME BEING whose say is final. For instance let's take the case of FORNICATION (sex before marriage), God's word says it's EVIL but ask each person around you and listen to their opinion as they find excuses to engage in it.
Then watch out as a father or mother who said sex before marriage is OK gets mad at a boy who impregnates their daughter (18+) without marrying her.
The SUPREME BEING is a happy person {1Timothy 1:11} and He always wants us to be happy {Psalms 1:1-3} that's why we need Him, in the absence of the SUPREME BEING humans can never be truly happy rather we will end up thinking about how to manufacture destructive device in order to wipe ourselves due to our disparities, that's why God warned the first couple saying:

"But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die" Genesis 2:17

That tree symbolises God's right to decide what is best for our bliss when men increases on the surface of the earth, it's not meant for us even if God never place a curse due to their disobedience mankind will always plan to kill one another due to contradictions in our choice of standards. So there's no way we can continue to cohabit peacefully without the SUPREME BEING: GOD

Thanks for your time!

paxonel:
Scammers thread!
Was Jesus suppose to lead the world and provide for your needs?
The answer is no
Therefore you must choose a human leader.
The infrastructures you scammers are enjoying everywhere and you were taxed for, were they not built by humans?

And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king. And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots. And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots. And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers. And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants. And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants. And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work. He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day. 1Samuel 8:10-18

So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter. Ecclesiastes 4:1

All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt. Ecclesiastes 8:9

We aren't telling you not to choose a ruler over you but please try not to hurt you fellowman due to his choice of candidate because that's what leads to mass killings (wars) in the world! Revelations 6:3-4

May you have PEACE!

We must stay on a low key until they're through with their election because in some countries when their political ambitions fails they often pounce on us as if we're the cause of their political failure.

AuthenticKing:
If you accuse humans of having contradictions when they try to come up with what morality means, then, as I have repeated so many times on this thread, we could throw that accusation back to the SUPREME BEING(S) you've come up with to have the final say regarding what is right and wrong.
Your Supreme being(s) do not only have contradictions in his (their) laws but also absurdities. Your Supreme being ain't consistent with his laws, restricted to culture, time and place and uses flawed humans to decimate and enforce his laws without showing himself. That's not a person or a being we can entrust the final say on our morality to.
We have non-religious countries that have succeeded living without the laws of your Supreme being(s) and we also see how religious countries do not rely fully on holy books to make laws but also on external sources.

I understand your need for a Supreme being but we would and have always gotten the same results (even worse results) we get when we let humans decide on their own.

First of all i want you to know that the SUPREME BEING has no nation situated in one geographical location that's using His laws today and when talking about success in morality it's obvious you still need some enlightenment on that.
Success in morality is when we live without anyone carrying weapons in our society as law enforcement agents. So where there are law enforcement agents around morality is a failure that's why you need fully armed men to force what you've signed into law on everyone.

In a society where the SUPREME BEING rules we don't need weapons to force ourselves in living by what we've all agreed upon as standard from the supreme being!

SharonLoveth:
I have to reconfirm again because you might come here next time claiming to be right

I know you're scared of me but let's keep that aside, does the text Crux mean Cross or Stake?

That's the bone of contention!

Hismasterpiece:
So when Jesus told His disciples he was going to prepare a place for them what place was he referring to?

When Jesus told the thief he would be with Him in paradise where was He referring to?

Perhaps you still need the comment again

MaxInDHouse:
Brainwashing in religion has finished you!
Even Jesus never said heaven is home for everyone so who did this to you? :-

I hope you saw the highlighted. Did Jesus say heaven is home for everyone?
Or you just think your Jesus will take everyone to heaven?