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Maynman:
You don’t need “intelligent reasoning” to use a vacuum that contains air.
Because strange things are happening that you lack knowledge of, doesn’t mean it’s your christian god, that’s laziness in thinking.

The reason we can’t see yahweh is because he exist only in a book just like zeus.
Intelligent reasoning will first tell you that “ what makes something visible? ” not spewing rhetorics from your religion.

Your air analogy is extremely dumb.

Phraences:
I feel it on my face. I assure you if an unseen being holds my hand and i feel the pressure of his touch, i will also believe.
Sight, hearing, touch, smell, and taste. The five human senses. Can you see God, hear him, touch him, smell him, taste him??
I can't see air but i can feel it on my skin.

Maynman:
Air can be measured and put in a vacuum.
A kid can use barometer and measure air without believing in any deity.
The reason we can’t see air is because air absorb light instead of reflecting.

Maynman:
There’s a reason why air can’t be seen or smelled, all these illiterate theist sha.

AgentNairaland:
Read my message again if your response corresponded to what I said
You have said it in your statement that you can't put anything beside God, the Jews never put a traditional healer or herbalist beside God!

Phraences:
Atheists don't dodge questions because they have nothing to prove. He who asserts must prove. People who say there is a God that cannot be seen with two naked eyes are the ones that need to prove it.

AgentNairaland:
Can't you comprehend what I said?

Aemmyjah:
I will do that. Your eye go clear you.

atheistconverta:
So be it!

AuthenticKing:
But your Supreme being has been ruling for at least 2000 years now and yet law enforcement agents were being used to force people to follow the law. Even in the Bible, your Supreme being punished Adam and Eve, drowned humanity in a flood, destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, used snakes to attack the Israelites in the wilderness and other barbaric ways of enforcing laws your Supreme Being used in the Bible that are so much if I start listing them here. So if I agree with you that a society that is successful in morality do not need law enforcement agents to force people to live by the law, then dear brother Maximus, your Supreme being fails woefully in that.

AgentNairaland:
You have said it in your statement that you can't put anything beside God, the Jews never put a traditional healer or herbalist beside God!

Aemmyjah:
Lol, only God know where you get that biased info from. I can as well find articles that tells me that the Prophet Mohammed or George Washington, Shakespeare never existed.
You're over funny

atheistconverta:
Na dem dem. Confirmed antichrists and wolves posing as Christians and sheep. All the blood of everyone you deceived with these your lies will be on your head. Keep looking for excuses to justify your lies. Translators kor transformers ni.

Aemmyjah:
Baba, I'm a theist. I have strong core beliefs in God and his existence.
What I said about atheism is hurting you, I accept I may be wrong on what I said. You are asking me to go n learn what atheism means. I'm not a churchgoer, I study the Bible and a lover of research. So when you say I'm dumb and illiterate cos of what I wrote but you can't prove to me and everyone here reading the comments here and potential atheists like you... Well, since you have nothing sensible to offer but insult me like every other atheist do when they are challenged, well then, farewell

Maynman:
Hundreds of religion claim they have a supreme being, some even claim they have supreme beings, 2 is better than one

And all their claims are only found and exist in a forged book.

Maynman:
The opposite of atheism is theism, Christianity is under theism

Maynman:
You need to first learn what “athiest” means.

Are theists all dumb?

Aemmyjah:
Is atheism the answer?
To be honest, we don't have atheists in Nigeria. We don't have one. I'm talking about real atheists not these ones that argue or simply bark that there's no God. Go and do research on the real atheists especially what happens to them towards the end of their life. They're depressed and unhappy
Atheists believe that life has no maker, no good, no bad, no purpose, no meaning. The only thing we know is some of the powerful quotes they say but little is told about how they end. Did you know that UK greatest writer, Mark Twain was an atheist? There are several others
At the end, when you hold up the belief that life has no good, no direction, no sense of purpose or meaning. It leads to a life devoid of satisfaction and accomplishments but loneliness. In their youths, they can sleep with all the girls, have all the fun, abuse drugs, party and make all the money in the world, fame and beauty and do all they want but when it is time they know that death is coming or they lose all of these and theyr realize that youthfulness is vain and they used it in vain pursuits, they get depressed. Nothing lasts, the things you are good at can be overcome by age or disability and someone takes over from you and you're forgotten.
Acknowledging that man has a Maker and living our lives according to how that Maker purposed it to be (like every other complex machinery) gives our lives meaning and a sense of purpose. Doing otherwise, we hurt ourselves morally, spiritually, emotionally and financially

Aemmyjah:
As to it's meaning, I can agree that Jehovah is omnipotent. Nothing beats his power. I wonder who gave him that title of omnipatient. That person is a fool. You tag him omnipatient and says he's intolerance personified. Na wa o
Contradictions- he is all loving, all patient. If he is all loving and all patient, it does not make sense to blame him for the evils we face cos an all loving personality won't cause suffering. Yet the same all loving and all patient person put life into dead people and watch them roast for all eternity. Sense!

Aemmyjah:
I blame it on those clergymen. Paul encouraged his brothers that they must enter the kingdom of God through many tribulations. Even Jesus Christ said that his followers will have tribulations as they remain here on earth. Wicked pastors masquerading as men of God claim talk about how they live a stress free life, how they make millions, how they don't fall sick (as if they will tell the members that they are sick. Elisha was a man of God but he became sick and died). When they teach these things, sincere members begin to think they have lost God's approval when they face trial and tribulations and the same pastors make it worse by saying it is God's will, 'He works in mysterious ways', 'we must not blame God cos he may have something better for you'... I ask myself, 'These men of God are even greater than Jesus Christ'. Jesus Christ was humble even asking that the soldiers do not arrest his disciples, he was humble to death and he did not threaten those who killed him but prayed for them. These 'men of God' in contrast are like dragons, blowing hot on everyone including governmental officials. In their auditorium, they have guards that even the audience can't approach them, how much more outside? Yet, they give their members 'the blood of Jesus Christ' in form of stickers to post on their doors to ward off criminals. Sometimes I feel like crying for my fellow countrymen. Babylon the great must be destroyed. That's the event I'm begging Jehovah to allow me witness even if I die in this system

Aemmyjah:
It wasn't God that killed these innocent ones. Was he?

ReubenSandwich:
My point is that a person doesn't have to believe in the existence of any God to be as honest, trustworthy, responsible, fair, caring, monogomous, faithful, pure and chaste as any person who believes in one, or to have as much of any other qualities and virtues that people associate with morality. Are you disagreeing with that?
MaxInDHouse, you can think whatever you want to about Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm just saying that there are multitudes of people all around the world, in all the religions and outside of them, possibly including some Jehovah's witnesses but not all of them, learning together to live the way Jesus says to live, guided by the Holy Spirit.

cornelboy:
You better go and work hard. Don't think that one pastor or omi 1930 will cure your suffering and problems.

Are you ashamed of your church? Tell me jàre I wan go find the truth there.

atheistconverta:
Antichrists posing as Christians...

Luke 12:5 (KJV) But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into HELL; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Aemmyjah:
Funnily, churchgoers are tired of listening as they can't make meaning out of it. Clergymen have stopped using scare tactics. They now teach that God is all loving (omni benevolent), I wonder how many Omni's they'll wrongly ascribe to God. Let them make sense to their members first, let the real Christians keep fulfilling Matthew 24:14

Aemmyjah:
Me too. I was so good at defending Men of God though their lives contrast those of Bible times as the ones we have are proud, materialistic, egoistic. I never had any widow's mite cos of them and the way they speak, I was scared that God will punish me with poverty. It's just foolish gambling that has reduced many into poverty.
When a person in my former religion tells me to know the truth and be free, I smile and beg God not to make me laugh. It is like going to a police station. A prisoner sees you, because the cell separates you from him, he calls you a prisoner whereas he's the one in the cell

MaxInDHouse:
You will have reasons to laugh but you just have to manage not to annoy them because most of them are speaking from their hearts! Luke 6:45

Aemmyjah:
Hmm, abi
Just like the sun has no meaning, the moon has no purpose, the human brain, eyes, legs, has no purpose, including things like chairs, phones, computers and airplanes. I like that mentality of yours bro. Keep it up. All these just appeared by themselves na.

Aemmyjah:
If not for Jehovah, I would have been an atheist. I grew up a Pentecostal but was always empty, God was blank and I knew nothing about him- this hole in me but they tell me I need to be born again and speak in tongues, I could not pray and I hated shouting for my enemies to die when I don't know them. The hypocrisy was too much in Church and why will you judge me for coming late to church without ask why and seeing me drenched but you say God will put me in hellfire. I once look up at night and said ' God, you are wicked!, you don't even help us in the hellish conditions on earth and you take pleasure in seeing people in eternal torment?'. I was determined to leave religion but I prayed to God by writing a letter begging him to show me the way or I become an atheist. I did not know how to pray so I wrote a letter and left it under a table on the pulpit and did research on all the Churches and religions of the world (including those not in Nigeria). I was determined to even be a Muslim or Mormon if it were. All of them were no good, they preach peace by mouth but willing to kill. Why will I join any religion that claims to have God's approval and promote peace but in times of conflict, they kill one another in the spirit of patriotism and tribalism. I happily thought of being an atheist where I can follow selfish interests and not be accountable to God but atheists are the most unhappiest people in the planet. They reflect no true joy, purpose, meaning in life. Most of them die like animals- living a purposeless and meaningless life, at old age, you know your life is purposeless and most die depressed. This is not an assumption, I made research. Their joy is ephemeral. Jews are just bigots and Muslims are so divided and easily resort to violence. I was confused and upset

Then Jehovah found me, no one came to preach to me, if it were so, I don't listen to the Witnesses then. Everything is a miracle. Jehovah has answered so much of my prayers but if I were to deny he answers prayers, I can't deny how he found me. Was with an Anglican friend discussing sex, football, education and religion but how the whole thing played out and what he said (unconsciously) aroused my curiosity and made me study the Bible intensely and the publications. I put God, the Bible and Jehovah's witnesses on trial. I devoured all the publications I found, I found God, I screamed, I shouted, I preached and then I had not even had a Bible teacher. I said I would preach all over Africa (was crazy) and was encouraged by the example of William 'Bible' Brown in our 2014 yearbook. I was not brainwashed, I question things, I do research, I carry my brains in my head not my pocket. I try to be encouraged by other faithful servants and I try to be an encouragement to all around me.
Jehovah has been so good to me and how can I repay him? I raise my hands to the heavens and may Jehovah do so and add all the plagues of the Bible on my head if I , Emmanuel Gabriel leave him to become an atheists under pressure or frustrations or join other religions. This is the way! If anyone says I'm blind or brainwashed, I will gladly accept as long as I'm still walking in the way. Think of it, people on the way to life are few and the road is cramped so we can expect those on the wide road with broad gate to laugh at, persecute those on the narrow road cos in their mind, they think they are on the way to happiness but in reality, it leads to their destruction. I am so happy, my life is meaningful, I radiate joy, worship the happy God, in the happiest brotherhood, with the happiest hopes, prospect, work, ministry. Knowledge of God gives our lives meaning and that is our whole obligation. Doing differently fills us with pains and frustrations. I was lost in a wilderness of frustration and hopelessness and Jehovah raised me up like a parent to an infant and showed me his 'face' and gave me a smile. Noah is my favorite Bible character, faithful for over 900 years. How many years do I have remaining, I can be like Noah.
This is the way, walk in it with integrity

Maynman:
See the lunatic polytheists that’s talking.