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Mikee19:
For everyone who may be deceived to believe what was said here, pls go thru this link: https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/changed-watchtower-teachings.php
Very extensive. There you will see links and proof of various dates JWs set, how they were also not honest over time, changing up things they said as tho they never said them. Right from their own publications. It's all there

Every other group is better, but that's not the point. I had already shown you it never has been about "better performing group" (as judged by your own set of rules/standard that your group set for itself; of course you'll score high by your own rules na!). A certain man was not part of the apostles "group", yet Jesus said he was yet for them (John 9:38-40). Jesus will at the end of ages judge people INDIVIDUALLY for their own works, NOT the group they belonged to.

Image123:
Stay away from drunkeness, what you have written here cannot be explained otherwise.
Who was i arguing profusely with or you don't know the meaning of profusely? If you refer to disagreements and differing opinions, they did have them in the early church. No one was as foolish as a Jwickedness pawn to say that the church then was not the Body of Christ. They had differing opinions on who should serve them, who should be served, whether to circumcise or not, whether to preach to Gentiles or eat with them, even on marriage and divorce, eating idols food etc. Pretty much everything. Most of the epistles dealt with settling these differences and ignorance in the Body of Christ at that time. Good thing is that many of them were not contentious, many of them were not indoctrinated, and many were meek enough to receive the teaching and also confirm from the Word whether those things were so. They were not busy defending and hyping some sect or cult like zombies. Read the Bible for yourself and use your God given brain this guy.

Image123:
Indeed, every sinner is going to the refuse dump in Jerusalem. Enjoy your knowledge.

NNTR:

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With your quasi-sarcasm, wallow in your ignorance and incorrigibility mode

PhenomenalMorgan:
Guy, if u dont have answers to his questions just jejely keep quiet and allow others to contribute, u seem bent on derailing the thread, allow others to meaningfully contribute so that his questions will be addressed, thanks

Image123:
Learn what? Have you now learned the clear fact on the teaching of believers being caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air?
No need jumping up and down like a toad without learning anything. Sit and learn, one step at a time. We are talking rapture, you'd rather talk about a million things and know nothing at the end of the day. i am not mesmerized by such folly and indiscipline. No one talked about marriage except you. Getting married or not getting married has nothing to do with going to Heaven or Earth. Jesus Christ and many Eunuchs did not marry any woman on Earth, and should He return, i don't think He has to marry to be granted entrance to Earth. Stop making things up or copying and pasting junk as usual. Again what has coming to Earth have to do with the power of death? Stop making up stupidity by the hour, the Bible does not teach that people will not come to Earth again to escape death.

Image123:
Your foolishness and hypocrisy irks me as it irked the Lord Jesus when He encountered your fathers. You've been glibly quoting the High Priestly prayer of our Lord to achieve your selfish gains. What do you think stops any believer from quoting same? Are you aware, have you read that the prayer was for all who believe in Jesus and not for some cult Jwickedness?
Joh 17:22  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 
Joh 17:20  Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 
He was praying for the Unity of His Body, the church, believers, not for the cult hall of asleep salesmen. You should not be so myopic as not to know that various bodies and organisations have unity and are one in what they do. Unity is a prayer for the church, not a sign that it is the church, don't be fooled. As beautiful as unity is, the people at the tower of Babel were united. There are brands, banks, political parties, International organisations and religious organisations that are and claim to be united in what they do. It is not a sole claim of your denomination. Muslins also claim it all over the world and most of their teachings are largely same. Hindus, Budhists and many other idolaters claim unity. Many of the orthodox churches also claim unity within each other. Many pentecostal denominations also claim unity so i don't really see why you behave like an ostrich everytime. Open your eyes and look around you.

AntiChristian:
Yet, your God used military in the Bible.
You can open a thread and advertise your cult!

AntiChristian:
The cult of 1914 Jesus Lugard!

Mikee19:
You doctrine is FALSE, and you have NO WAY to know it. I do not have questions sir. Only God's word. Your doctrine CANNOT answer for it, but sadly you have just shown just why it is hard for a JW to acknowledge the truth of God's word. Because you must always be in "unity", having no ability whatsoever to disagree with teaching of the organization, but must always agree, even when it may be erroneous. You simply have no ability to disagree with anything you're taught but must hold on to it as truth, even when it may be false

Mikee19:
Haba naw! Sham cannot produce something that has a form of godly devotion ( 2 Tim 3:5)? No naw... How do you poison a rat? If you put it on bare floor, will rat eat it? Must it not be on well garnished food to attract the rat to its death? How can someone be pulled in by false religion by Satan without something good to attract him? Why r you talking like this? Can something that looks very bad draw a person in? What's the proportion of poison with the great looking food that kills a rat? isn't the poison only small, with much more great food?

For sham to deceive, there must be good. PLENTY good! This is in order!

Ha, not so ooo! Dates plenty now, haba! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Watch_Tower_Society_predictions
Very embarrassingly plenty sef. pls ooo...
This date issue! Haba!

No sir. Peter's issue was not "to where" they could go, but "to whom"! It was NEVER about any "better performing group" sir. It was NOT about ANY GROUP AT ALL for that matter, greatly performing or not! Even if there was a "better performing group", they still won't go there, because this was NOT about a group, BUT ABOUT THE PERSON OF JESUS CHRIST!

They said, "To WHOM shall we go", they didn't say "to WHERE"! Jesus is the messiah, so they can only go TO HIM!

AntiChristian:
You didn't even respond to anything in this thread!
Even the verse you quoted you applied wrongly!
And this is the cult you are calling people to!

Image123:
Indeed, every sinner is going to the refuse dump in Jerusalem. Enjoy your knowledge.

AntiChristian:
You quoted a wrong verse for this thread! Your quote is not applicable to this thread!
Na to derail thread u sabi!

FatherOfJesus:
It's true, I God also think so.

Mikee19:
I am not. I only used it to show that even now your entire belief system may be a complete sham, and you would never be able to tell

But they were inspired. You people are NOT! And have "complete unity" unlike the early church where they could disagree so that the truth can be seen. But nothing to check you from believing entire falsehood. I only used the examples of the due dates of failed prophecies to illustrate my point; that was the only check and balance you had to know that what you taught was wrong, because NOBODY was even able to spot the wrong in the teaching until the due date showed it to be false! Now imagine teaching without due date! How will you know this one with nothing to show it clearly cos it has no due date to reveal it? Answer: NO WAY!

Loool, don't get me started on this. A stagnant population with membership for years with news of many leaving? I'll just leave this point for now

AntiChristian:

The context in your Bible refers to False prophets who was described in the previous verses before the one you quoted!
You are a liar!

Mikee19:
God has never made errors, like EVER!
But you have...
Absolutely no comparison here

AntiChristian:
Continue to quote your Bible off-point! See the context of the Bible verse you quoted below.

True and False Prophets Matt 7:16-18
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Say no to Jehovah Witness Cultist Liars!

Mikee19:
Again, that "unity" of which you're so proud of is your Achilles heel! You will NEVER be able to detect wrong doctrine, EVER! You will agree with falsehood forever and ever if there's no due date to reveal it as false (since it didn't come to pass). You may even now be believing all things wrong from top to bottom, and have absolutely no way to know this, since everybody CANNOT disagree, but blindly follow each other into error, being happy y'all agree

FatherOfJesus:
I am God, atheist are fools cos I exist

Mikee19:
You shifted the goalpost though. This isn't what i was referring to. For all you know your entire worship may be a sham, because you are in "complete unity" even into error with no way to detect it! This is really the implication of the sort of "unity" you're proud of.

Regarding these you've just spoken of, there's such a thing as having a form of godliness and denying its power (2 Timothy 3:5). You can have such godly devotion, yet still be false. That "unity" will be your undoing

Mikee19:
This isn't the compliment you think it is tho, and I'll tell you why:

You see, by their own admission, the GB of Jehovah's witnesses aren't inspired, which is why they've made numerous mistakes in time past. But in spite of this, everybody agrees with them whether they're right or wrong! Nobody even has a mind of his own to spot the wrong and disagree, and we saw that play out in all the failed prophecies that were made. Every single soul agreed with what was plainly wrong! Is this a compliment really? That even when there's wrong, everybody will keep agreeing, and not a single soul can spot the error, until the due date of the prophecies come about and it fails before they can see it?

The implication of this is that in matters not pertaining to prophecy, if there's no due date attached the a particular doctrine, absolutely nobody will ever be able to see that it wrong because there's no due date (like there is in prophecy) to reveal the error clearly for all people to see! You may even now be holding on to doctrinal errors that have no due date attached as in prophecy, and will therefore not every be able to know, since nothing serves to reveal it wrong, meanwhile everybody is busy agreeing to errors as in the past, only this time nobody ever gets to know without such due date!

For example, the GB have taught something, then changed it up later on, then much later do away totally with the changes, going back to the much earlier belief they initially had, and everybody just adjusts like that, believing each one each time until the GB change it again, with absolutely nobody at all able to see the wrong, everybody agreeing on errors as tho they are true! Scary! Certainly not a complement...

No, disagreements are HEALTHY. The ability to disagree is also what helps protect ppl from error:

NKJV 1Co 11:18-19: "¹⁸ For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. ¹⁹  For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you."

There MUST be disagreements! So that those with the truth can be seen! When everybody just blindly agrees with the leader and follow them upandan into error, nobody ever able to see it especially is there's no due date like in a prophecy, that's a scary phenomenon.

The unity Jesus was speaking about wasn't at all about agreeing totally about God's word so that nobody can detect when there r errors. It's about loving each other and being in unity and harmony with one another regardless of that! There were such disagreements in the early church as you can see Paul say so, and he said it's healthy and to be expected. If there's none today amongst JW, it is actually a problem, and NOT a compliment.

MindHacker9009:
Be sorry for yourself as being an ordained minister in the organization has made you not to bother that you're not following the true messiah but one created by the Romans to worship their Sun God.

FatherOfJesus:

NuclearReactor:
Guy you are the one dribbling yourself, lol, Sin is Sin, whether its the sin of disobeying God by eating the fruit or its sin by rebelling against God, its all sin and the wages of sin is death!! Satan didnt need to be warned cos he has been in heaven with God for ages, so he would have known, he was an archangel for crying out loud So because Satan isnt flesh and blood, so he would not justly recieve the reward of his sin which is death, did scripture say the "wages of sins by human beings is death" ok why does Rev 21:8 talk about "the second death" Guy u are not interested in questioning what you believe, when u are ready God will give u insight, for now Goodday

AntiChristian:
I don't think Islam need to have a cultish followership to propagate the truth!

MindHacker9009:
You are the one who is very daft. The documentary is not just about the origin but also what's going on in your organisation. Just believing what you are told without doing your own research is what makes you very daft.

AntiChristian:
This is old age affecting you sir! Read my post and read the response again. A Muslim is a Muslim even if he commits a sin till s/he does an act that vitiates his Islam.

I know all your JW brothers are free of sin that's why you excommunicate people from amongst yourselves! When you excomunicate them do you still count them as JW? Or they become Anti-JW?

Think before your type!

MindHacker9009:
If you have data to watch a documentary into the origin of the organisation you are so passionate about you will be shocked at what is going on in it that you have no clue about:

AntiChristian:
Your thought was unguided by your Holy Spirit! This is what happens when you type more than you read!

Have you met 99% of Muslims to have this insinuation?

We have over a billion Muslims in the world.