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KNOWMORE56:
I've not seen any man said there are more than one true God...

Trinity is three Persons in one God...
The Word is life...
The Spirit is life...
The Word is the Spirit...
The Spirit is God....
God is the Spirit....

These we see from the Word bellow:

*. John 1: 4 " KJV:In him (the Word) was LIFE ; and the life was the light of men."

*. John 6:63 "KJV:It is the spirit that quickeneth (gives life); the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit , and they are life."

*. Acts 17:25 "KJV:Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he (God) giveth to all LIFE, and breath, and all things;"

*. John 4: 24 " KJV: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

*. 2 Corinthians 3: 6 " KJV:Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth LIFE ."

*. Colossians 3:4 " KJV:When Christ, who is our LIFE, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory."

*. 1 John 1:2 " KJV: (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal LIFE, which was with the Father , and was manifested unto us"

*. 1 John 5:20 " KJV:And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal LIFE "
This is the true God, and eternal LIFE

MindHacker9009:
Some of your enemies here are those who are not misinformed beleivers like yourself beleiving a FAKE story of a messiah written about 2000 years ago to control the minds of gullible people today and you are still helping them to do so.

KNOWMORE56:
the Father is not angry with us who are worshipping Jesus?

Saucy22:
Have u ever imagined how the world would have been without the forbidden tree ,just imagin eve didn't eat the apple ?
What would have happened they are a lot of question to be asked and answer to be given
I usually feel that the whole creation story is an allegory ..
We were boldy set up to fail
Why didn't God kill Satan
Why wasn't he there when Satan came .. He's omini present
The punishment was too quick and no through investigation just judgment
There alot of questions to ask
Am just seeking a lot of answers
The creation story isn't true..

MindHacker9009:
I don't hate Jesus, all I have been saying is that the stories about Him were made up.
But you that love Jesus Christ with passion, yet any one that does not agree with your misinformation you have made your enemy.

KNOWMORE56:
Hmmm, this accusation is not fair at all! The Bible works of the innocent transliterators are misjudged by Watch tower. They are guilty of the things they accuse others....
ok nauw, it's well. I Know that Jesus Christ, the TRUE GOD, will soon come and He'll make all things clear for us...

OkCornel:
If you had taken time to read my first post which I have repeated here and bolded my opening paragraph in red. And it’s still not clear to you, it says a lot about your level of understanding.

Janosky, MaxinDHouse take a look at freshboi are you’re discussing with.

I’ll be observing. This should be fun.

freshboi88:
The day or the hour is part of all things.....All encompasses everything. So you do not have a point.
John 16: 29 His disciples said: “See! Now you are speaking plainly and are not using comparisons. 30 Now we know that you know all things and you do not need to have anyone question you. By this we believe that you came from God.” 31 Jesus answered them: “Do you believe now?
Is the day or the hour part of all things or not ?

muykem:
I want to ask our Muslims brother/sister this question. Why 5 times prayers can't be translated to other languages to make more easy for everybody. I believe that God doesn't discriminate against any language.

AntiChristian:
Why does God need a son to depend on?
How is Jesus Angel Michael?
How did he come unnoticed in 1914?

freshboi88:
Can you show me where Jesus tells the disciples, no you are wrong, I do not know all things?

freshboi88:
There you lie again
John 16: 29 His disciples said: “See! Now you are speaking plainly and are not using comparisons. 30 Now we know that you know all things and you do not need to have anyone question you. By this we believe that you came from God.” 31 Jesus answered them: “Do you believe now?
What was Jesus's response. he asked them go u now believe ?.....Jesus too wasn't filled with the Holy Spirit abi..........

freshboi88:
You enter my trap....John 16:30 Jesus knows all things...Therefore Jesus is God

freshboi88:
You have not answered my question. If all these things you are saying is correct why does Rev 19 say no one knows the name except himself ?
It didnt say no human ?
It didn't say some?
So, are you saying the bible made a mistake

freshboi88:
But that is not what the text says. However if you are correct, can you tell me why your own translation says that no one else knows the name except Jesus?
Are you trying to say there's an error in the bible ?

KNOWMORE56:
I took time to post some bible dictionary concordances showing the meaning of the Hebrews & Greek word translated worship, non of them contains the word obey or obedience but you from nowhere type "obeisance means obedience"
But the two words are different. Obedience do with laws/commandments/ instructions....
The other one deals with reverence/respect...
Now why do i go against Catholics claiming they're doing obeisance to Mary?
Please what exactly did Mary commanded me to do as found written in the scriptures?
Did God ask me to obey Mary the way He said about Jesus? Matthew 17:5
The national anthem and pledge is against pure worship!
HOW? God's word asked me to obey the authorities but then i should be able to distinguish between what belongs to Caesar and what belongs to God {Mark 12:17} God demands exclusive devotion from me [Mark 12:29-30} that i can't give any other thing. So if they demand my 100% faithfulness, loyalty and honesty as stated in their anthem and pledge please what happens when they ask me to kill whereas God's word (Jesus Christ) say i must love and pray even for my enemies? Matthew 5:43-48
The Hebrew word שׁחה is
transliterated shâchâh,
Pronunced shaw-khaw'
Defined as:
1. to prostrate (especially reflexively in homage to royalty or God);
2. to bow down or fall down flat humbly;
3. to do (make) obeisance or do reverence (worship)

This word is transliterated 99 times to mean worship in the King James Version...(i.e in the Old Testament)

It counterpart in Greek (προσκυνέω)
Transliterated proskuneō,
Pronunced pros--neh'-o
Defined as:
1. to kiss like a dog licking his master´ s hand;
2. to literally or figuratively prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to adore): - worship.

This word is transliterated 60 times to mean worship in the King James Version... ( i.e in the New Testament)

The truth is that worship/ homage/ Obeisance mean the same thing, according to Bible usage!

oya nauw, let's examine the verses:

*. 1 Peter 1:10 "KJV:Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
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KJV:Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."
The above is in agreement with the below:
*. John 1: 10 "KJV: He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not "

MindHacker9009:
Where is the potter here in Matthew?
Matthew 27:5-6
5 "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple".
6 "And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury
Exodus 21:32 Under the law the price for a slave was thirty pieces of silver. Jesus was not a slave so Zechariah 11:12-13 was not referring to Jesus.

OkCornel:
1. Provide evidence I’m a JW
2. Feel free to argue with David and Jesus in Psalms 110 v 1 and Matthew 22 v 41-46.
How many beings did David see when he was in the spirit?
Religious zealotry is a terrible thing.

freshboi88:
@ bolded says no one knows but he himself. So your question is irrelevant.
Now on one know apart from himself....does Jehovah know the name ?

cornelboy:
Would your believing in a God change anything?

freshboi88:
Going by your logic, then the Father doesn't know all things because
Rev 19 NWT
11 I saw heaven opened, and look! a white horse.+ And the one seated on it is called Faithful+ and True,+ and he judges and carries on war in righteousness.+ 12 His eyes are a fiery flame,+ and on his head are many diadems.* He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is clothed with an outer garment stained* with blood, and he is called by the name The Word+ of God.
@bolded does Jehovah know all things?

MindHacker9009:
If you read from Zechariah 11:10-13 you will see that it has nothing to do with Judas betraying Jesus in Matthew 26:15

Zechariah 11:10-13
10 Then I took my staff called Favor and cut it in two, showing that I had revoked the covenant I had made with all the nations.

11 That was the end of my covenant with them. The suffering flock was watching me, and they knew that the LORD was speaking through my actions.

12 And I said to them, “If you like, give me my wages, whatever I am worth; but only if you want to.” So they counted out for my wages thirty pieces of silver.

13 And the LORD said to me, “Throw it to the pottera”—this magnificent sum at which they valued me! So I took the thirty coins and threw them to the potter in the Temple of the LORD.

MaxInDHouse:
Who is the LORD that was prised?
And why prise the one called "LORD"?

cornelboy:
I laugh when they say JWs were brainwashed whereas, they are the ones brainwashed with dogmas

AntiChristian:
Are you denying Jesus is Angel Michael again? Or that you worship the Jesus that came in 1914?

MindHacker9009:
Did the LORD ask Judas to cast money to the potter?

MindHacker9009:
Exodus 21:32 Under the law the price for a slave was thirty pieces of silver. Jesus was not a slave so Zechariah 11:12-13 was not referring to Jesus.

cornelboy:
It's doesn't make sense that life happened randomly Do you think life could come from something lifeless (chemical reaction)?

My own purpose is to survive and leave a legacy for my children.

MindHacker9009:
13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.
There were other people doing business in the Temple at the time of Jesus so there is no proof that this verse was about Judas.
The Temple had:
Those who bought and sold.
Money changers.
Those who sold their tithes and brought the money to the temple.

MindHacker9009:
Show where it says in the New Testament that the 30 pieces of silver were thrown in the treasury?
Matthew 27:5-6
5 "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple".
6 "And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury"

AgirlsNightmAre:
In other to preserve my sanity, I will allow him to continue ranting
When God wants to make you stupid, the end product is Maximus

AgirlsNightmAre:
Oga go rest, we don't need your stupidity here
Just get the f'k out, or you go collect

MindHacker9009:
I did floor you when you claimed that Zechariah 11:12 was referring to Judas collecting his wages for betraying Jesus and instead of admitting you were wrong, you decided to post an unintelligent answer.

AntiChristian:
Are you denying Jesus is Angel Michael again? Or that you worship the Jesus that came in 1914?

Confusion 101
1. Jesus is son of God!
2. Jesus is Angel Michael!
3. Sons of God slept with daughters of men to birth giant!