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Dliquidmetal:
show me the place your book said that snakes had leg word for word,let's start from there

See confirmed denial of facts!

Well God's word says about snakes:

So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. Genesis 3:14

Abeg wetin dey crawl with belle?
No be led go miss before crawling?

OK God's word says:

He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. Job 26:7

When the Bible writer penned down this statement scientists thought the earth is supported by giant creatures!

Fornication is premarital sex, it was introduced by the fallen angels who left heaven and start mating with female humans {Genesis 6:1-5} it wasn't like that in the beginning because God created a female and brought her to Adam so the two became man and wife because God Himself joined them together. Genesis 2:18-24
But when the angels came down they made perfect human bodies for themselves so girls can't resist them, that's why they started mating with different girls (without engaging the families) note that each boy and girl has human families traceable to Adam but these angels had no genealogy so in order not to ask for their parents they used their charming looks to brainwash the girls and sex as many as they see! Genesis 6:2

So sex before marriage is wrong in God's sight, at least both families must be involved before you can think of sex otherwise you're reminding God what led to the destruction of Noah's generation!

MindHacker9009:
You said the 12 tribes of Israel "will be scattered never to come back again as a nation". But there are still some of them today and Jesus Christ stated that "Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things" they "shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." Matthew 19:28.
But you believe the tribes of Israel have been scattered never to come back again as a nation. Don't you see you are wrong and not following what Jesus Christ has promised.
What kind of faithful people are you gathering? Until you show a gathering of people that is like the one Jesus Christ expects, if not not the people you are gathering is not for Jesus Christ.

Before Jesus' arrival the nation of Israel has turn into two regions the northern ten tribes known as "Samaritans" and the southern two tribes with the priestly tribe known as Jews.
According to what was written in the laws God gave them through Moses the Israelites will be scattered never to return if they abandon the covenant God made with them:

"And I will scatter you among the nations, and I will unsheathe a sword after you; and your land will be made desolate, and your cities will be devastated". Leviticus 26:33

So when Jesus talked to his disciples judging the twelve tribes of Israel {Matthew 19:28} he wasn't talking about the faithless nation anymore rather he was referring to faithful people from different races throughout the world who will become descendants of Abraham through faith not birth! Matthew 3:9 compare to Matthew 8:11

What was expected of ISRAELITES when the Messiah (Christ) comes?
They're to go preaching zealously and teaching people throughout the earth about God's Kingdom which the Christ will establish, that's what could have drawn people throughout the world to them {Zechariah 8:23} but they rejected the Christ so they were cursed! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

So never again will a nation call "Israel" come together again with all the twelve tribes as God promised them. Remember God's promise to Abraham was transferred to Isaac and from Isaac to Jacob but as for the promise of God's Kingdom it was to be for the nation as a whole not in part, therefore since they've been scattered among the nations nothing is going to bring them back.

Listen to what they told Pontius Pilate (Roman governor) who was totally CONFUSED when they were determined to kill Jesus:

At that all the people said in answer: “Let his blood come upon us and upon our children" Matthew 27:25

So my friend, that nation has lost it that's why you're seeing Jehovah's Witnesses organization gathering people throughout the earth, teaching them what God promised in the Bible, settling all their racial disparities, diverting their resources into production of food and information materials, erasing racism, politics and military services from their hearts and convincing them in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth to vow never to raise weapons against their fellowman again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

This is what was expected of the Israelites had it been they accepted the teachings of Jesus Christ!

If you ask intellectuals they'll tell you that it's not the looks that's important rather it's the character.
So whether Jesus is black, white, yellow or red in skin what really matters is his words, thoughts and actions as recorded in the Bible!

AntiChristian:
Next time don't bring such here!

You and your parents may be OK with Arabian brainwashing but not everyone will swallow lies easily.
Whatever makes you say anything for a prophet nothing should stop you from saying the same thing for others as long as he's just a prophet like others. It's just brainwashing!

AntiChristian:
Because Muhammad is the one sent to us. Jesus was not sent to me. Moses was not sent to me. But Muhammad was.
And Allah specifically told us to send blessings on the last Prophet. And sending blessings of Allah to him has a lot of rewards.

It was narrated that Abu Mas‘ood al-Ansaari said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) came to us when we were in the gathering of Sa’d ibn ‘Ubaadah, and Basheer ibn Sa‘eed said to him: Allah has commanded us to send blessings upon you, O Messenger of Allah; how should we send blessings upon you? The Messenger of Allah (S) remained silent until we wished that he had not asked him, then the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Say: Allahumma salli ‘ala Muhammadin wa ‘ala aali Muhammadin kama salayta ‘ala Ibraaheem, wa baarik ‘ala Muhammadin wa ‘ala aali Muhammadin kama baarakta ‘ala Ibraaheem fi’l-‘aalameen, innaka hameedun majeed (O Allah, send Your salaah (grace, honour and mercy) upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad, as You sent Your salaah upon Ibraaheem, and send Your blessings upon Muhammad and the family of Muhammad, as You sent Your blessings upon Ibraaheem among the nations, You are indeed Praiseworthy, Most Glorious). And the salaam is as you know.” Narrated by Muslim (405).

Read, be enlightened and stop your lies!

OK other prophets weren't sent to you expect the Arabian. Though it's controversial but now i understood you!

AntiChristian:
You are the liar sir!
You first lied that the meaning of "Alayhi salam" was "on him is peace" Where as it is "on him be peace" which is a way of saying "Peace be on him"
What about "Alayhi salaatu wasalam" being said for them?
You have no comment on that.
Another lies is that you claim we send blessings on the Prophet alone when we pray.
But this is false in reality.
The greeting of salaam is sent upon all the righteous slaves of Allah in heaven and on earth, as al-Bukhaari (831) and Muslim (402) narrated that Ibn Mas‘ood said: When we prayed behind the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), we used to say: Peace (salaam) be upon Allah, peace be upon So and so. The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said to us one day: “Allah is as-Salaam, so when one of you sits to pray, let him say: at-Tahiyyaatu Lillaahi wa’s-salawaatu wa’t-tayyibaat; as-salaamu ‘alayka ayyuha’n-nabiyyu wa rahmat-Allahi wa barakaatuhu; as-salaamu ‘alayna wa ‘ala ‘ibaad-illaah is-saaliheen (All compliments, prayers and good words are due to Allah; peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings; peace be upon us and upon the righteous slaves of Allah). For if you say that it will reach every righteous slave in the heavens and on earth. (Then say Ash-hadu al-laa ilaaha ill-Allah wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan ‘abduhu wa rasooluhu (I bear witness that there is no god except Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger).”

Now you're dodging the simple question!

Are they all prophets of your God?
If so why not say the same thing for all of them?
Why change the phrase at the mention of Muhammad's name?

KINGJAJA888:
Everywhere I go Jesus Jesus. This brainwashed Nigerians won't allow somebody have Peace in this Country. Must Everybody believe in your useless God??.
I Can't have a reasonable conversation with my fellow Nigerian without them Mentioning the white Man's Jesus at any single instance they get. I'm Legit fed up.

Well it may surprise you that the real Jesus did not send them to constitute nuisance in his name! According to what his disciples wrote in the Bible Jesus hates to be spoken about out of reason, demons knew that by saying things without reasonableness right thinking people will be irritated so they were saying what is true about Jesus but pointless at the time they say it! Mark 1:24-25; 3:11-12
Those demons also tried to do the same with true Christians but Jesus' real disciples realized it's pointless! Act 16:16-18

So it's truly pointless but true Christians don't go about spewing gibberish, we reason with people and it's through reasonableness that right thinking individuals can see the difference between a believer and unbeliever!

AntiChristian:
O! Is it on him be peace or on him is peace? Which one former Muslim?
You just keep exposing your ignorance sir.
Instead of you to be mute on what is beyond you!
When did you become an Arabic instructor JW wing?
When Prophets are mentioned we say Alayhi salaatu wasalam or alayhi salam.
And the meanings has been given. They are all prayers of blessings and or peace.
All your theories from Paul's/ unknown authored Hebrew are lies from the pit of hell.

Agitation or fury doesn't change the fact that when the names of Israelite prophets are mentioned what you're taught to say differs from what you're to say at the mention of the name of Muhammad!
Aren't all of them supposed to be prophets?
So who is lying now?

cornelboy:
It's pointless.

Instead of searching for God with all their heart the same way they does for money they feel God must come to their room in person because they're important than others so since God never come to ask them what they want they're determined to erase God from the minds of others, and when that seems impossible they'll begin ridiculing others and their faith in God even throwing tantrums out of frustration.
What costs him to speak politely with everyone he knows about God so that the questions in his minds could be answered?
Instead he thought by ridiculing God he can convince others so he is claiming God!

Hohenheim:
Joshua 10:12-14

12 On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord in the presence of Israel:

“Sun, stand still over Gibeon,
and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.”

13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar.
The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.

14 There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the Lord listened to a human being. Surely the Lord was fighting for Israel!

Not only did God kill everyone on earth by stopping the earth from spinning, he also clearly states that he doesn't listen to human beings, yet Christians keep wasting their time and energy praying to God.

You really did a fine research but something is missing that you need to note.
According to the Bible the Sun was created to give light that's unequaled as sustainable and constant source of energy to all the living things on the earth. Genesis 1:3-5
So the maker don't need the Sun to do what he needs for His people. According to that Bible passage it's the Sun the Israelites and their enemies saw standing in just one place for twenty four hours but the one who created the Sun can simply use an angel like the Sun for a day to supply only that small portion of the earth a powerful light needed for the Israelites to win the battle Exodus 13:21-22 compare to Genesis 3:24

Hope2014:
People in heaven were created to be saved while people in hell were created to be destroyed.

NO!
God never destined people from the beginning the only thing He does is find a way to make His plans work, He always use humans to do this to put Satan to shame because Satan made the first human pair rebelled against God under the best condition, but God told Satan that under the most difficult conditions some of Adam's descendants will never rebel against God's authority.
As for heaven it's created for spirit beings not humans, it's the earth that God designed purposely for humans! Psalms 115:16

KNOWMORE56:
Are you saying the below is not in your own copy of the Bible? Check again:

The Word is life...
The Spirit is life...
The Word is the Spirit...
The Spirit is God....
God is the Spirit...:

*. John 1: 4 " KJV:In him (the Word) was LIFE ; and the life was the light of men."

*. John 6:63 "KJV:It is the spirit that quickeneth (gives life); the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit , and they are life
."

*. Acts 17:25 "KJV:Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he (God) giveth to all LIFE, and breath, and all things;"

*. John 4: 24 " KJV: God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

*. 2 Corinthians 3: 6 " KJV:Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth LIFE ."

*. Colossians 3:4 " KJV:When Christ, who is our LIFE, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory."

*. 1 John 1:2 " KJV: (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal LIFE, which was with the Father , and was manifested unto uswink"

*. 1 John 5:20 " KJV:And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal LIFE

Everything you quoted here is found in all versions of the Bible except the word "TRINITY"
So each religion has their interpretation of the words you're quoting, since TRINITY is not found written in the Bible you can't convince people that it has a correlation with what the Bible says!

AntiChristian:
The ignorant grandpa!

Let's burst your ignorance again.

"Salallahu alayhi wasalam" means peace and blessings of Allah be on him.

" alayhi salam" means ! "on him be peace"

If you'd open your eyes well you'd have seen that the latter is a sunset of the former!

Salallahu alayhi wa[b]Salam[/b]

And even sometimes we used Alayhi salaatu wasalam which is similar in meaning to salallahu alayhi wasalam.

You are a Jaahil. An ignoramus Muslim through and through!

Alayhi salaatu wasalam means "On him be blessings and peace" not had been given peace or whatever nonsense.

O ignorant liar for Jehovah! Will you ever stop exposing the evil of your cult here?

Simple translation you lie again!

The highlighted is exactly the Arabic translation with the exemption of just one word!

"on him IS peace"

Meaning the Peace of God is already with the Jewish prophets but as for Muhammad you're still PRAYING for him to receive the same kind of blessing.
That's why you always pray for Muhammad during salat but don't need to pray for Jesus or any Jewish prophet because they have gotten the peace from God already as their inheritance! Hebrews 12:1

cornelboy:
If I asked you the same questions about the Qur'an, would you be able to answer them?
I already said you should create a new thread about the questions.
We are talking about Jesus here.

There are lots and lots of secrets hidden from the readers of the Qu'ran!

Note that whenever any Jewish prophet of old is mentioned a Muslim will say:
"Alei salat a Salam"
But at the mention of Muhammad Muslims will unanimously shout:
"Sal Allah alei wa Salam"

Well the former and the latter was erroneously mistranslated to mean the same thing for misinformed people but the real meaning of the two phrases totally contradicts!

"Alei salat a Salam" means "had been given the peace of God"
While Sal Allah alei wa Salam" means "may the peace of God be with him"

So while the Arabs themselves believed that all Jewish prophets have received the lasting peace from God they are still praying for their own prophet to gain the same blessing!

ChristisGod:
Mark 5:19-20
[19]However, Jesus did not permit him, but said to him, “Go home to your friends, and tell them what great things THE LORD has done for you, and how HE has had compassion on you.”

[20]And he departed and began to proclaim in Decapolis all that Jesus had done for him; and all marveled.

WHO IS GOD BUT THE LORD (PSALM 18:31)

YES Jesus is the Lord but according to the Psalmist one LORD is greater than the other Lord:
Psalms 110:1 The LORD says to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet."
After receiving the Holy Spirit Apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus is the smaller Lord! Act 2:34-36

So who is the GREATER LORD than Jesus Christ? John 14:28

ChristisGod:
The Holy Spirit is a person, not a thing. He is not simply an abstract force. He is a person who empowers the people of God for the Christian life. The translators of the King James Version chose to render parakletos with the English word “Comforter” because at that time the English language was more closely connected to its historical roots in Latin. Today, we understand the word comfort to mean ease & solace in the midst of trouble. But its original meaning was different. It is derived from the Latin word comfortis, which consisted of a prefix (com-, meaning “with) and a root (fortis, meaning “strong”). So, originally the word carried the meaning “with strength.” Therefore, the KJV translators were telling us that the Holy Spirit comes to the people of Christ not to heal their wounds after a battle but to strengthen them before & during a struggle. The idea is that the church operates not so much as a hospital but as an army, & the Holy Spirit comes to empower & strengthen Christians, to ensure victory or conquest.

— R.C. Sproul, Who Is The Holy Spirit?

According to JWs interpretation God's Holy Spirit is the active force of God. Though most Bible readers raised a lot of objections to this but one can just imagine how the one and only group that say the Holy Spirit is God's active force happens to be the one and only group actively:
©PREACHING and TEACHING just as Jesus Christ commanded! Matthew 28:19-20
©Have LOVE, JOY and PEACE {Galatians 5:22} permeating their gathering just as Jesus foretold! John 13:34-35; 15:12-13
©Orderly just as Jesus Christ said regarding his group! John 17:20-23
©Aren't involved in politics {John 6:15} racism {Matthew 12:46-50} and military services {Matthew 26:52} just has Jesus Christ taught and avoided these things!
©Don't promote the pursuit of riches just as Jesus Christ taught! Matthew 6:24-34
©Being the group most hated and vilified just as Jesus Christ said his true disciples will be ill-treated! Matthew 24:9
©Accused of being a cult just as Jesus Christ said regarding his group! Matthew 10:25
©Known globally as the world's best preaching and teaching group just as Jesus Christ said his true disciples will be known! Act 1:8

Perhaps this so called Holy Spirit just choose to be WORKING with the group that doesn't know him/her/it! Matthew 7:16-18; James 2:18-26

Dliquidmetal:
How you guys think still baffles me wtf
How can you even write Bible and science in the same sentence?

Thousands of years before science discovered that snakes has legs through DNA the old book told us that snakes had legs before it was cursed!
Please how do you explain that?
Do you still think science can discover anything apart from what the Bible has spoken about?

cornelboy:
Lol. This a joke or what?
Cars, phones and computers evolved randomly themselves Abi? Nobody put them together?
ROTFLMAO
Hostile Savannah Africa?
What about other parts of Africa that are not hostile or Savannah, what did they evolve to adapt to their surroundings?
We have like 7 continents in the world today, each region with its unique environment factors, why are people living in these various regions not evolving different things?
Where's the testable evidence?
Oh now I got your points.
When fish first enter water, it couldn't breathe. It had to survive, so it started growing and evolving gills. That's great.
Humans and some animals for example started evolving their teeth do that they could eat. Cool
Before, birds were just like rats with beak but because of environmental factors, they decided to start growing and evolving wings and gbera.
The list goes on and on
"It takes more faith to believe in evolution than to believe in a creator".

The highlighted is why i left atheism back then!
This people thought they're wiser than others who believes in an unseen Creator but then it takes more faith to believe their evolution than a Creator, in fact you must dismiss lots of questions in other to embrace evolution.
Another hilarious part is when some of them claims they have testable evidence!
The simple truth has been explained in the Bible when God said a spirit being introduced rebellion to the first human pair. So atheism stem from rebellion against the SUPREME BEING in order for lawless people to do away with conscience so they don't have to obey any rule conscientiously until they see how monstrous and fearful the one ordering them no matter how reasonable or benefitial such orders as long as they're not threatened they just want to believe they can choose the other side without feelings of guilt!

Most of them feels it's only religious people that should take beliefs seriously while they will be the ones ridiculing what religionists believes but when they meet me it's the other way around because i often make them see how daft their BELIEVE (TRUST) in evolution really sound!

AntiChristian:
In the Biblical Story of Lot (Gen 19), his people were homosexuals and the LORD destroyed them. However Lot and his two daughters were saved from the destruction.

After that the daughters drugged their father with wine and slept with him in turns by night. They both got pregnant gave birth and God made them fruitful. So the Moabites and Ammonites have an incestous origin!

1. So why were the Sodomites destroyed but the Incestous preserved?

2. Does God know they (father and ladies) would move away from sodomy to incest?

3. If God could protect them from Sodomy why not incest or is incest preferable?

Adam's descendants multiplied increasingly through what you called "INCEST" today but mating with animals or same sex can't end well. A man can't get pregnant through a fellow man neither can a woman get pregnant through mating with a female of her kind, and when humans mate with beasts it's not going to produce a whole man nor a whole beast.
That's why God condemned Sodom and Gomorrah.
What about the law which later condemns incest?
This is to prevent children born of the same parents from having sexual desires for one another, ordinarily nothing stops you from having children through a female and of course your own sister is a female but then how do you take care of your little sister from infancy when you're already attracted to her sexually?
Think of how life will be when all fathers are attracted to their own daughters, mothers to their own sons, brothers to their own sisters vice versa. Then your mother or grown up sister can't take good care of you because she will be moved looking at your organ!
That's why God commanded His people not to allow such as they multiply but they can marry any other Israelite (distant relatives) don't forget that all Israelites are children of the same man (Jacob) just as all humans are children of Adam!

cornelboy:
Authentic and detailed accounts about Jesus can only be found in the Bible.
It's reasonable to believe a book that contains the story based on eyewitnesses account than a book that came 600 plus years later.

Before i met the WITNESSES there were lots of questions in my mind but no answers, because Muslims don't entertain any criticism against their religion or prophet so you can't just wake up and start questioning what they believe. When i heard JWs also have the same attitude i paused to find out the difference between these two religions.
You are a Muslim once you start going to the mosques and doing whatever others Muslims practice as sacred service to their God, though our clerics often say God wants you to know Him before worshiping Him but the truth is 99.9% of those claiming Muslims are ignorant of who/what they're worshiping, they only follow the crowd.
JWs on the other hand totally differs, how? No REAL member of the JW will accept you as a brother if you've not STUDIED the Bible with JWs, this is appropriate in other to fulfill what Jesus laid down which is the preaching and teaching work. It's through the PREACHING one gets to hear something different but it's the TEACHING that makes you have the same line of thought with fellow believers {John 17:22} Jesus emphasized on this need when he said himself and his father are one {John 10:30} meaning whatever you hear from him is exactly what his father would have told you {John 14:9} this is possible because Jesus keep learning from his father until now! John 8:28

So before you can become one of JWs you must pass through a study session that's not less than at least 6 months (if you're a fast learner) then you're examined by other JWs as part of the prerequisites for baptism {1Timothy 4:15} it's after all these that you dedicate your life to the God of JWs secretly as one fully prepared to join His worshipers then present yourself before other Witnesses that you're also a dedicated member belonging to the same line of thought and you'll be asked once again in the presence of a multitude of WITNESSES to confirm before them that you're ready to carry on with all you've been taught {Matthew 28:20} it's then that you will be baptized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. From that very moment all members of this group no matter where they are have accepted you as a member of their global family of peace loving worshipers. So if you later decided to quit after going through all these it simply means you only wasted the time, energy and resources of all those people for no just course therefore nobody should take you seriously afterwards! Romans 16:17

Thanks to JEHOVAH for freedom of speech, expression and worship!

Janosky:
Sifia pains and tantrums.
SERVE is not Worship, contrary to the false claim of your 3 deities devotees comrade.
Continue WAILING.
Your KNOWMORE56 friend FALSE claim: "SERVE means WORSHIP @ John 12:26.
Una dey the same boat- Any where belle face.

I don't have time for miscreants!

I perfectly agreed with KNOWMORE56 on the issue of those honoured by Jesus' father, i'm only interested in knowing how Jesus said we are going to IDENTIFY them today!

MindHacker9009:
The twelve tribes are scattered all over the world and when the REAL MESSIAH comes He will gather all of them back together.

So you can wait until then but we are busy now gathering faithful people throughout the earth under the control of Jesus Christ of Nazareth!

OkCornel:
Absolutely.
What’s your take on Jesus, is he a part of the Elohim?

Jesus is just an angel in heaven before God transformed him into the womb of that virgin girl (Mary) the only difference between Jesus and other angels is being the first angel God created directly. Proverbs 8:22; John 1:1
So after God created this first angel He (God) empowered this first spirit son to start creating all other things {John 1:10} and all this things belongs to God's first born son known as the "Archangel Michael" Colossians 1:15-16
There's nothing in all God's creation that doesn't belong to Jesus (Archangel Michael) everything as in EVERYTHING belongs to him because his father used him to make it for his own pleasure. 1Corinthians 8:6
But of all the things God used Jesus to create it's humans that this spirit son of God loves most {Proverbs 8:31} that's why he always come to our aid anytime mankind has issues! Daniel 3:25

May you have PEACE!

OkCornel:
Hurtful words? Nah… there’s no point exchanging words with someone with that kind of manner.
Since he can’t control himself, I want him to speak some more. Perhaps he’ll feel much better typing up all the insults he can muster whilst doing “good publicity” for his brand and image.
Freshboi88 aka Mr Mark of HeroTech, residing in the “UK” … come and entertain us some more
If someone can lie over his location, bragging to be what he’s not, that already says a lot about his character and integrity (if he has any).

My target is to OBEY the Christ who said:

If the house is deserving, let the peace you wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from you return upon you. Matthew 10:13

PEACE only follow those obeying Jesus' orders {Matthew 5:39} that type of peace is not common in the world! John 14:27

KNOWMORE56:
"But Jesus has given us a clue"

I'm not sure of what you mean by this statement...

So when Jesus Christ said the Father will honour those who serve Him (Jesus), it's not a clue on how the judgement is going to be?

*. John 12:26 "KJV: If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man SERVE ME, HIM WILL MY FATHER HONOUR ."

How do we IDENTIFY those who are honoured by Jesus' father today? Matthew 7:16-18; James 2:18-26

MindHacker9009:
IT'S NOT OK UNTIL IT'S OK : For you to know the REAL MESSIAH:
“How can I prove that Jesus is not the messiah?”

The only way you can prove that Jesus of Nazareth is not the real Messiah to me is just by presenting the nation of complete twelve tribes known as "Israel"
Because according to Jesus of Nazareth Israel has been condemned {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} meaning they will be scattered never to come back again as a nation. Luke 11:23
So until you're able to find the twelve tribes nation of Israel Jesus Christ of Nazareth remains the one and only authentic Messiah! Matthew 16:13-16

OkCornel:
See single digit IQ on display. Entertain us some more and brag about those fake pounds sterling you have in your dreams
Person go calm dey blast lies claiming what he’s not. What a clown

I'm not a kid so after delivering what i know it's left for anyone to believe whatever he/she feels is best, i don't exchange hurtful words like babies!

MindHacker9009:
OK. This should educate you on the REAL MESSIAH:

“How can I prove that Jesus is not the messiah?”

The Jewish Messiah is supposed to do the following three things, in this order. After that Elijah returns.

Bring all Jews to Israel as it is said “and I shall gather my people unto me”.
During his lofetime there were very large Jewish comunities living in Babylon, Medina (Arabia), Egypt, Syria, and Ethiopia.
The Jews were further dispersed after Jesus lifetime therefore this was made worse after he died.

Establish world peace as prophesized by the Lamb and Wolf lying together.
During his lifetime Judea was involved in a civil war between many different factions. Around the world there were many wars being fought by Rome, Persia etc.
The Jews were involved in a war with Rome after his lifetime. Therefore this situation was made worse in the years following his lifetime.

Build/Inaguarate the Eternal Temple as proohesized in Ezekiel.
The second Temple was still standing im his lifetime.
The Temple fell after his death.

Furthermore Malachi states that Elijah is supposed to return before the coming of The Messiah. This is called the great day of The Lord. The Messiah is not God, but he together with Elijah heralds the final judgement.
Did not happen.
Elijah did not return to bring parents close to their children.

Jesus did not do even the first thing. In fact the closest person who has come closest to doing what The Messiah needs to do in the history of the world is President Chaim Azriel Weitzman of Israel. He was most certainly not The Messiah, but he did more to fulfill the first requirement than anyone else. Even so he did not meet the first requirement fully. No one has yet.
There are Jews outside of Israel, and there have been Jews living outside of Israel since the First Kingdom of Shaul was founded.
There has been a perpetual state of war since Babylon and Egypt were founded. (All of recorded human history).
The Eternal Temple as prophesized in Ezekiel has not been built.
https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-prove-that-Jesus-is-not-the-messiah

It's OK!

JustExposeIt:
Trinity means there are three persons in one. God the Father, Jehovah, God the Son, Jesus Christ and God the Holy Spirit.

This is what some religionists says but trinity is nowhere to be found in the Bible so it's not everyone that can accept what is not in the Bible!

AllenforGOD:
Is it true if a man dies he faces judgement

Death is judgment!