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kingxsamz:
Story.

For those who will have faith and be saved!

Continue waiting for their Messiah when Jesus Christ has already fulfilled the role!

MindHacker9009:
Jesus Christ was against GOD's command in Matthew 23:37-38, when:

God commanded the Jews:
45. Not to fear killing a false prophet.
(Deuteronomy 18:22)

Is Jesus not Himself divided against the Kingdom of GOD, when Jesus Himself said "a Kingdom divided against itself cannot stand" Mark 3:24.

The Messiah is coming to keep all that GOD has commanded in the Torah and not to diminish any commandments from the Torah but Jesus Christ did not keep all the Laws of the Torah instead He changed some of them when GOD commanded:

136. To take procedures against a suspected adultress.
(Numbers 5:30)

580. Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

581. Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

610. Not to panic and retreat during battle.
(Deuteronomy 20:3)

May you have sense to understand the Torah

MindHacker9009:
If Jesus Christ is the expected Messiah then He would have prevented the Temple in Jerusalem from being destroyed rather he predicted that the temple will be destroyed and the Roman Empire occupying Israel at the time later destroyed it.

The Messiah (Christ) must not overstep the standard God set! Matthew 5:17

Note that God promised the Israelites that He will only continue to protect their land if they stick to the covenant between Himself and that nation! Deuteronomy 28:15-68

That's why the Messiah could say to them:



“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. Matthew 23:37-38

According to God's word no prophet should pray for Jerusalem if the people refuse to abide by the covenant:

The one refusing to listen to the law —Even his prayer is detestable! Proverbs 28:9

 “As for you, do not pray in behalf of this people. Do not cry out in their behalf or offer a prayer for them, for I will not be listening when they call out to me because of their calamity. Jeremiah 11:14

Then Jehovah said to me: “Do not pray for good to come to this people. When they fast, I do not listen to their entreaties, and when they offer whole burnt offerings and grain offerings, I take no pleasure in them, for by the sword, by famine, and by pestilence, I will do away with them.” Jeremiah 14:11-12

That's why Jesus Christ only pray for those who listens to the instructions he gave them:

because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me. I make request concerning them; I make request, not concerning the world, but concerning those whom you have given me, because they are yours! John 17:8-9

So Jesus Christ of Nazareth perfectly followed God's arrangement as planned after mankind's fall in the garden of Eden, it's the Israelites that failed to grasp the purpose of the Messiah thinking he should be a nepotist who only came to rescue their nation alone! Luke 4:23

May you have PEACE!

Just allow others read our comments and SEE for themselves who got the sense in God's word! Proverbs 2:1-5

MindHacker9009:
From your posts you are the one reading the Bible as a story book and then making children's story out of it.
If Jesus Christ is the expected Messiah then He would have prevented the Temple in Jerusalem from being destroyed rather he predicted that the temple will be destroyed and the Roman Empire occupying Israel at the time later destroyed it.

Jesus Christ did not keep all the Laws of the Torah instead He changed some of them when GOD commanded:

136. To take procedures against a suspected adultress.
(Numbers 5:30)

580. Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

581. Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

610. Not to panic and retreat during battle.
(Deuteronomy 20:3)

May you have sense to understand the Torah

MaxInDHouse:
That is why you need to STUDY the Bible not just read it like a story book!

From the beginning God never intended that a race or nation among Adam's descendants should be rated above another rather mankind supposed to be one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally serving the same God! Genesis 1:28
So one thing led to another that's why God has to pick one nation out of all others {Exodus 19:5} then set up a standard of how He wanted people to cohabit without hurting one another, so the Israelites were to later extend God's message to all other nations who are still in darkness under Satan's system of things {Zechariah 8:23} It's the duty of the Messiah to organize his people (Israelites) train them {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} on how to go about making the whole earth one family {Isaiah 2:2-4} so that we will all worship God shoulder to shoulder as if we're speaking just one language for perfect understanding {Zephaniah 3:9} he wasn't sent to start killing one race in support of another race, so he is not supposed to be a political RACIST!

The only reason why God chose the Israelites is for the campaign to rehabilitate mankind and that has to start from a small scale as in a nation must first be liberated out of Satan's system, otherwise there will always be hatred if the Messiah should go about killing others like a racist in fact all other nations will lay down their lives for their own nation so if the so called Messiah can kill everyone so that only Israelites will survive the planet they won't care. But since he's not a racist that's why he's trying to help the Israelites realize that his mission totally differs from what they are thinking.
By the time Rome was ruling the world God has already declared that seven nations will rule over the earth until the appointed time when the Messiah will take over from the last world power! Daniel 2:37-45

Starting with Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Medo-Persians, Greece, Rome, English-American, by the time the Messiah arrived the earth it was the 6 system of government under Satan's trial of systems that's ruling the world the first five has fallen! Revelations 17:10

So when the Messiah arrived his first assignment was to organize the Israelites (Jews) train them and commission a global campaign team against Satan's system of government {Matthew 10:6} that's what Bible called the Good News of God's Kingdom! Matthew 24:14

But most Jews were expecting a King who will lead them to war against their so called enemies but the Messiah told them mankind has just one enemy: Satan the devil! Matthew 5:43-48

With the counsel of the Christ {Isaiah 9:6} nobody will raise a weapon in support of anyone against another {Isaiah 2:2-4} but all these must follow due process because the true God is not a bully He wants everyone to grasp what is happening! Isaiah 1:18

May you have PEACE!

Dtruthspeaker:
I agree. I see people see a good thing and reject it.
Wrong! You missed the Consent and Agreement Ceremony (Covenant) in Exodus 24 Israel's version of "We the people"!
Consent is The Law! And Moses obtained the consent of the people to ensure which is why you see in verses 3 and 7 they consented to it saying
"All that The Lord hath Said, will we do, AND BE OBEDIENT"!
That is why I said you are wrong! His Laws were still fully in force even though Israel and the whole world did not like to keep it and do not like to keep it, hence the proof of the Truth that people see a good thing and run from it.
Yet, they say they want good things! That the world is bad! What a joke
Wrong Again! As you can see God's Contract (Covenants) are ETERNAL, and as you see, The Contract has already been long executed.
So, THE CONSTITUTION, IS THE WAY TO ETERNAL LIFE.
Which is why David clearly tells us His Words (THE CONSTITUTION) "are Life to those that find them"
"Keep my Commandments and Live"!

Why not quote the words to establish facts of what you're saying?

By the time Jesus arrived in Israel the laws has been abandoned, the Pharisees were the group trying hard to rule over the people as they interpreted all the laws in their own favour so there was contradictions already among them on how to implement those laws.
That's why there were Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Rabbis all contradicting themselves over what the laws said!

For instance, they knew some promiscuous ladies in their community but their laws can't touch such women because it's no longer the constitution that's in force rather it's the Roman construction. Herodias abandoned her husband Philip and started sleeping with Herod which is UNLAWFUL under the divine CONSTRUCTION! Matthew 14:3-4

A very influential lady known for promiscuity can't be touched yet they all knew about her immoral lifestyles! Luke 7:39

When Jesus came he exposed the flaws in what those claiming religious leaders among the Jews were practicing! Matthew 23:23-24

So my friend those laws were longer in force by the time Jesus arrived Israel and the Jews themselves knew that's why John the baptist came to prepare the way before Jesus telling them to return to the covenant they've abandoned and those who want to show they're remorseful came to him for baptism! Matthew 3:1-6 compare to Malachi 3:1

kingxsamz:
Lol, true sha but your god is not different from Bokoharam terrorists sha.
At least you can't deny that these laws came from the guy.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa!
There's a huge difference!

Those are laws as in the CONSTITUTION that a nation must uphold, so the implementation is within the geographical location where the adherents are settled.
But Boko Haram are killing people who don't even know the rules of their God.

Let me enlighten you!
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we can live successfully under the called Boko Haram rules because we are law abiding so we will study their laws even better than their members so if they're the ones in authority all we need to do is study their laws and live by it. They will start fighting against themselves after some times because they will see that we can conduct ourselves perfectly under their cruel laws so by the time their laws becomes a burden to themselves nobody will tell them that the JWs are worshipers of a better God than their own as they will always have issues of either whipping, maiming, beheading and killing themselves under the rules of their own God!

Janosky:
Empty tantrums of sifia pained mumu mysogynist.
He was born of a woman but his moniker speaks volumes.

My brother, AgirlsNightmAre is female but she quickly edited her profile when i told her women aren't supposed to speak in the congregation according to the scriptures.
She's really mad at me for beating their intelligence in reasoning but there's nothing as in NATIN she fit do, her worse is to abuse, insult and curse, that's all what arrogant females like her does whenever they're dragged to their seats!

FatherOfJesus:
They are usually well meaning, generally honest but misguided, misinformed and fearful people who genuinely do believe that the world (or “this system”) is about to be destroyed. And so – out of fear – do whatever their leaders tell them to do in order to survive it.
Some of the examples we have on nairaland is MaxInDHouse and cornelboy.

Jehovah's Witnesses are USUALLY WELL MEANING, GENERALLY HONEST! Matthew 5:14-16

And some of them are MaxInDHouse and Cornelboy! 1Timothy 4:15

I wonder how some people could speak so lofty of their fellow humans like this yet wants to convince themselves that such people are not doing what is right! 1Peter 2:12; 3:16

AgirlsNightmAre:
DID NOAH'S FLOOD REALLY HAPPENED, AND IF IT HAPPENED WAS IT WORLDWIDE?

THE GENESIS ACCOUNT OF CREATION HAS A LOT OF LOOPHOLES," LIGHT WAS CREATED BEFORE THE SUN".......

A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES IN SOME VERSES IN THE BIBLE, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS VERSES WAS LATER PLAGIARIZED BY COPYISTS?

WHY IS THE THE BOOK OF ENOCH REJECTED, WHEN JUDE QOUTES FROM IT IN HIS LETTER

There are more than this, they are somethings that need a second thought before being dogmatic, religion from what I've seen limits your thinking capacity.....

https://www.nairaland.com/7070307/im-beginning-question-almost-everything#111790338


Walahi talahi it's really psychopathic to hate the truth!
I'm happy that all these are on the internet for everyone to read and reread.
So my friend AgirlsNightmAre, you have just two options it's either you repent of your sins and get help from the GOOD and LAW ABIDING people or you stick to the Apostates like Courz who also disown the organization of GOOD and LAW ABIDING people, of course everyone knows that only EVILDOERS and LAWLESS people finds it hard to maintain their position in the midst of GOOD and LAW ABIDING people! Matthew 7:16-18

AgirlsNightmAre:
Why not seek for psychiatric help
Brain damage is real

Well over 8,000,000 throughout the earth have the same line of thought as i do {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} and ironically you as in yourself quantified them as "GOOD and LAW ABIDING people"
So do you really think GOOD and LAW ABIDING people need psychiatric help or you're just saying this out of a bad condition of the heart? Luke 6:45

AgirlsNightmAre:
Na your father be Apostate
Nonsense, you better get sense before it becomes too late

OK the "RESPONSIBLE ELDER" is your own father or like a father to you, shey?

And better get sense before it becomes too late to do what exactly?

Remember the OP outrightly condemned all religions and here you are talking about sense before it's too late. Abeg too late to join a better performing group or forgo the worship of God altogether?
Please enlighten me i'm all ears!

Dtruthspeaker:
Wrong!
They never even wanted to keep and obey THE CONSTITUTION right from the start.
And even when they were receiving it, they went immediately straight ahead, with no fear to break Section 1 of THE CONSTITUTION-"Thou shalt not have any god before me".
And remember Moses cursed them that if and when they do not keep this CONSTITUTION, then they shall become subjects of destruction and captivity.
And you saw it happened.
So, you see, the CONSTITUTION was never obsolete but its citizens did not allow it stand and disobeyed it, right from the beginning.
If they had kept it, every one would have been running to Israel instead of Canada and others.

You missed the import of my post.
There has never been a time in history when humans generally accepted any constitution it's always to be forced on them for it to be active. What i'm saying is that the God who set that constitution never took them seriously after the nation splitted into two and taken captives.
The constitution supposed to guide them until the Messiah (Christ) come to establish another covenant which will eventually lead all adherents to everlasting life. Deuteronomy 18:18-19
So their God never took them as His established Kingdom again because the agreement has been breached {Jeremiah 31:31-34} that's why Jesus told his disciples to continue praying for God's Kingdom (God's own rulership) to come {Matthew 6:10} that is when the earth will receive everlasting blessings {Psalms 67:6-7} as promised to Abraham! Genesis 12:1-3

That's part of what a God who rescued a nation from the land of Egypt under slavery gave them as a CONSTITUTION!
So it served as the constitution of that nation for centuries until the nation broke into two regions one part consisting of 10 tribes in the Northern region while 2 tribes (with the tribe of priests) in the Southern region.
There CONSTITUTION became obsolete when other nations disrupted their judicial system by taking them captives for decades. So by the time some of them returned to their home land the CONSTITUTION has been rendered inactive no longer in force that's how they began using the constitutions of their colonial masters instead of the laws their God initiated.
Today that nation is no longer united in what you're quoting because they no more practice what that God set for them as standard rather they follow the international standard approved by the western world.
So whoever tries to do any of what you quoted up there in that country today will be severely dealt with under the international standard of ruling.
May you have PEACE!

johnw47:
lost paranoid false jw mad max

look how tatime has made you twice the child of hell than he is
with his paranoia lies and accusing, now it's your turn
to pass them skills on to other newbie false jw's

Mat 23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves

Thank you Mr OLAADEGBU, Emusan and johnw47 three in one person.
You've tried a lot, thanks once again!

AgirlsNightmAre:
You're right, I was fed up with most of the things on the JW broadcasting.
Concerning the awakening I think it's mostly people from the West, here in Nigeria majority of the Teenagers I know in Higher institution don't even know the religion well

Just like Akinwale (my first son) he began doubting the organization at the age of 18 and by the time he's 19 got a girl pregnant making me an unwilling grandpa, instantly his junior brother (Fernando) who likes doing just like him decided to end his education in the technical college, that's how they both went their separate ways then my friend took Fernando to south America since he's interest is in mechanized farming. Today Akinwale is still studying for his so called master degree but the irony of it is that Fernando (the Brazilian farmer) is now the one sponsoring Akinwale through schooling, In fact his mother is the one insisting Fernando mustn't marry ahead of his senior brother otherwise my son would have been married to one south American by now.

they think being part of it will ensure their salvation and the attend meetings to please their parents, non of them can engage in an exegetical discussion of sensitive Biblical topics.

I taught my sons to choose for themselves because my own families are Muslims, their mom is from a religious divided home where some of her grandparents are JWs but her father who chose not to be a JW married a Pentecostal. So my sons have different sects at their disposal and they're free to choose any they like after all i myself just got baptized few years ago. But i noticed that while Akinwale is trying to be inquisitive in everything the JWs teach Fernando concentrates on any organization that could perform better than JWs. In fact he told me "Fine boy (the nickname they gave me) thanks for teaching me what you know but mind you i will switch to another religious organization anyday i found one performing better than JWs"
And immediately i told him "son my God will never forgive you if you dare hesitate to call me anyday you find something like that because i will also like to be with the best performing group"
So don't think everyone will think the way you do, i have two sons and they don't think the same way. As for Akínwale his own son David (7) is my carbon copy the little boy took after me, in fact i always remind him that we are not his parents but grandparents as he always call me "dad" but his real dad "uncle Wale".

And what I observed is that during WT.study people just read from the study material. Nobody dares to undertake an underground investigation.

Since you have done the so called "underground investigation" try to expose us to any better performing group you have found after all we love working with Jesus' group!

I'm working on an article concerning the twisted view of the WT.society when it comes to the use of Blood in medical treatment and I'm planning to submit to a responsible Elder and a former friend, he's in the medical field seems it will be more appealing to him, because he even doubts some of the things that is being taught.

The underlines!
(1) Blood transfusion has preserved many and killed many so there's nothing unique about it, it's not a sure medical treatment that can save life!
(2) How do you call someone who deals with Apostates "a responsible elder" when all of you know that's totally against the norms of the organization?
(3) If anyone is doubting the jw.org teachings why is he still a member? Why not switch lanes to another religion claiming Christians, after all most people do it claiming it's all about different DENOMINATIONS?

Courz:
Freemasonic connections. International Bible Students meeting in Masonic Lodges today!

Wòó my friend i'm already feeling sleepy, see you some other time, until then try to figure out what exactly do the people you're reporting did that's affecting the society as a whole apart from the fact that they don't go to WAR?
Good night my friend, do sleep well!

Courz:
Watchtower : Avoid Politics BUT I CAN TAKE PART IN POLITICS. Join politics and you will be Disfellowshipped. BUT I CAN JOIN POLITICS AND YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT!

How do you think a neutral person will take this?

OK a group ZEALOUSLY PREACHING AND INDUSTRIOUSLY TEACHING people throughout the world not to participate in making, selling or using weapons is involved in the production of WEAPONS!
Please how are they going to make their own money after sending out publishers in millions to go throughout the earth discouraging people from patronizing their own product!

Abeg use your brains nah!

Courz:
Gay Mafia of the JWs and more. Man in the last pic was the Homosexual partner of the Governing body member in the 3rd pic. Nice!

Haba!
Please what has all these got to do with what is happening within the human society torí Ọlọ́run?
How do you sleep at night with all these things in your mind whereas nobody in your neighbourhood is affected negatively with all these things you're storing in your head?

What a pity!
Is this what you're getting from Apostate's site?
Well people differ in reasoning sha, so you may be interested in such needless stories but to a person like me who keeps anticipating the day mankind will stop killing one another over politics and racism all these stories are like Tom and Jerry!

Courz:
More Legacy for the Cult below:

Óyá you yourself try to be open minded, what has RING! RING!! RING!!! got to do with all the problems facing mankind today?
If a group could erase racism and politics from the hearts of millions across the globe making them to vow never to raise weapons against their fellowman for any reason whatsoever {Isaiah 2:2-4} my friend whatever anyone claim about their RINGS will never make any sense to right thinking individuals. If fact kings and rulers who can see the good results of their group will like to get such rings perhaps the power to control people and make them think like real humans not killing themselves is in that ring.

My friend, I don't know how you're thinking but that's my take on all these freemason what have you!

Pẹ̀lẹ́ tìẹ!

FatherOfJesus:
may I bless you.
I love you unconditionally but if you don't do as I like, I will make you suffer

Courz:
Deceit of the Cult right below :
Which was a great success making JWs worship a Freemason Diety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA

Your problem is acting on impulse but you're expecting everyone to do the same whereas real intellectuals make sure of all things and hold fast to what is good! Thess 5:21


You don't expect intelligent people to start reacting simply because they got some information, it might be true or false but one thing is sure it must have either positive or negative effect on the society at large {Matthew 7:16-18} that's what Jesus told us to focus on not mere stories! 2Timothy 4:3-4

So please don't be offended that your stories doesn't make any sense to me, that's how the agents of the Intelligence behaves.
Thanks for your time!

Pẹ̀lẹ́ tìẹ!

FatherOfJesus:
That's God for you, always confuse.
It's like my trademark.
I know all, I created man in my image, tested him with a fruit which I know he will eat, he ate it, I got angry and changed my divine plans. People whom I knew were going to turn sinners, I killed them and then change plan once again. I knew they were going to keep sinning, so I sent my son to come die for them when I could have Just killed satan whom I created in the first place and always knew that he would turn bad. My son died and rose again but people and still sinning.
I need a change of plan this time, maybe I will come and die by myself for your sins in form of a pig

There's nothing more confusing than that my brother

May I bless you

Even the OP (FatherOfJesus) who started the thread is now confused as to how far some people can go to accuse a guiltless group of people and at the same time calling on the general public to attack them whereas the public don't know a single evil deed the group is doing to warrant such hatred!

Courz:
It's a good thing you have admitted to being Lucifer's Witnesses. Nice one! This is the Legacy of Lucifer's Witnesses below:

Insanity!
You accused people of being satanists and at the same time fabricating stories claiming that they're doing evil in secret but it has not affected the general public in any way.
Ọmọ you don dey colo o!

FatherOfJesus:
I'm God, I can be whoever I like

OK nah!

The Bible so much equipped Jehovah's Witnesses to the extent that there is no law humane that anybody can set up against them! Galatians 5:23b

Imagine the Muslims here debating about some Ibaduh Rahman yet Muslims everywhere are contradicting themselves over the killing of a girl for what they termed blasphemy.
What some of them are saying is that it's wrong to kill for such reason, others are saying it's right. Those claiming it's right can't present a group who strongly uphold their conviction, those claiming it's wrong can't present any group upholding their thought.

But now you want to argue over the fact that some sects claiming Christians are blindly following their leaders and the human society as a whole is suffering the negative impact.
I present a group that's practicing what Jesus the founder of Christianity taught only for you to say they're also following their leaders, then you asked a question:
What is the DIFFERENCE?
So i have to present the glaring differences that's indisputable but all you can say is that you have some documents to prove that the group whose members have vowed never to support in the making, marketing or using weapons is into the production, yet they sent out publishers in millions throughout the earth to PREACH against buying, selling or using weapons!

Can't you see how you're contradicting yourself?

Courz:
Faces of Freemason JWs a. k. a The Anointed Ones. They admit Jehovah is Lucifer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA

Back to your old stories on the dead thread!
Can you just say one EVIL the so called Lucifer people are doing to affect their neighbours? Matthew 10:25

johnw47:
lost paranoid false jw mad max
people keep pointing out how crazy you are
and you keep showing just how true it is
paranoia is fear:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Thanks for revealing the truth!

oteneaaron:
But you don't have to carry a weapon to show that you support war.
Your organization receives millions of dollars annually as grants from HM Riley Trust Fund, and the IRS has shown that the same HM Riley trust has shares in companies that produce weapons of mass destruction, is that not the same as supporting war?
To be completely different, your organization should have NOTHING to do with any money that comes from war bonds, or else, it means you are supporting war too.

You're entitled to your own opinion but right thinking persons will ask for the name of any member of the accused group who is either in the army, air force or navy, inability to present one makes such accusation false Sir!

Come again!

Courz:
Show your intelligence you keep boasting about and answer these questions below:
You have no problem with Watchtower owning the dead bodies of Bethelites. So, What is Watchtower doing with dead bodies of Bethelites? And are you a member of a Secret Cult apart from JW?

oteneaaron:
Just to be clear, so because they involve themselves in politics and war this means they are "misinformed churchgoers" right?
But there is evidence to show that your organization is also involved in politics and war --1. Your organization was registered as an NGO of the United Nations for 10 solid years - is this not tantamount to involving in politics?
2. Your organization is accepting grants from the HM Riley Trust Fund, and the HM Riley trust fund has investments in companies that produce weapons of mass destruction - is that not tantamount to being involved in war too?
So what makes you different from these "uninformed churchgoers?"

People can forge any document to lay any claim but nobody can forge humans to carry weapons against their fellowman.
So present the evidence that JWs go to war to kill people, documents aren't valid now because we know how people do forge it to blackmail others.
Let's see JWs who are going to kill their fellowman at war apart from former soldiers like myself who have been BRAINWASHED to vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

Come again!

Courz:
Show your intelligence you keep boasting about and answer these questions below:
You have no problem with Watchtower owning the dead bodies of Bethelites. So, What is Watchtower doing with dead bodies of Bethelites? And are you a member of a Secret Cult apart from JW?