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Going to heaven is not certain for humans but since that's where Jesus originated from {John 8:23} returning or securing a place there is not an issue for him! Mark 13:26

But what about humans today longing to go to heaven?
This should be thoroughly examined, because God never created heaven for humans rather earth is man's permanent destination! Psalms 115:16

So why did Jesus say he is going to prepare a place? John 14:1
It's because God promised Abraham that all the families of the earth will be blessed through his descendants {Genesis 12:1-3} this promise was repeated to Isaac and Jacob that's why God always refer to Himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so the Israelites have the privilege of helping other nations to gain salvation! Isaiah 2:3; Zechariah 8:23
But the Israelites lack faith in God's promises as they were killing His prophets {Matthew 23:37-38} and finally they killed God's only begotten Son bringing a curse unto their generations unborn by saying may the guilt of his innocent blood come upon them! Matthew 27:25
All these was summed up to condemn that nation and their capital city JERUSALEM, Jesus began telling his disciples all the calamities that's coming upon the Jews and their capital City JERUSALEM! Luke 21:20-24
Jesus' disciples who were faithful to God's only begotten Son became disheartening because apart from their home country been cursed this the Messiah telling them evil things that's coming upon their capital city where God's temple was built!
So Jesus told them not to worry because they had the joy of ruling with him in his kingdom {Matthew 19:28} but how will that be possible if their capital city (Jerusalem) has been condemned?
Please read what Jesus told them:


"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. In the house of my Father are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will receive you home to myself, so that where I am you also may be. And where I am going, you know the way.” John 14:1-4

So it's only his cabinet that he is going to prepare a place for since that's not their proposed site of Government house from the beginning not all good people!

God's word later revealed that only 144,000 anointed Christians are going with Jesus {Revelations 14:1} even none of all faithful servants of God before John the baptist has such privilege! Matthew 11:11

May you have PEACE!

AgirlsNightmAre:
Mind your words Jesus was no founder of cultism.
Don't insult the King, all things has been subjected under his feet including you, so next time don't frame him for something he was not guilty of.

The above write-up came from the same person whose evidence of doubt regarding the Bible could be noticed below:

AgirlsNightmAre:
DID NOAH'S FLOOD REALLY HAPPENED, AND IF IT HAPPENED WAS IT WORLDWIDE?

THE GENESIS ACCOUNT OF CREATION HAS A LOT OF LOOPHOLES," LIGHT WAS CREATED BEFORE THE SUN".......

But because SHE wants to antagonize JWs who are GOOD and LAW ABIDING people (according to herself) she now changed her expression trying to say she believes in Jesus whom she has already shown is just a myth by disbelieving what Jesus himself confirmed in his own words:
THE ACCOUNT OF NOAH! Luke 17:26-27

I'm so glad that all these are on the internet, many will come and read all what you LIARS are typing and laugh at your stupidity!

Courz:
That's the problem. He's not answering them. He's also not reading the Bible verses I quoted. He's skipping them and typing Watchtower crap for me. He keeps boasting about Intelligence and being a Soldier for the Freemason gods but I have not seen any proof of that. I don't know what is difficult in the questions I asked for someone who claims to be intelligent.

oteneaaron:
But you didn't answer ANY of his questions.
He asked you to show PROOF from the Bible that 1914 was Jesus came back invisibly to earth. How difficult is that?

Keep playing around the circus like a clown in two accounts that's your headache!

When it comes to proof Jesus made us know that enemies of truth doesn't need scriptures to expose them {Matthew 7:6} because the Bible itself is not a book that could be read without guidance so how do you use such a book to prove something to a person who doesn't even want to believe the book?

Jesus answered:

do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? If I am not doing the works of my Father, do not believe me. But if I am doing them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, so that you may come to know and may continue knowing that the Father is in union with me and I am in union with the Father.” John 10:36-38

If you doubt the 1914 issue that's no problem because it's not obvious to most people living back then that a mighty spirit King visited the earth, but what about the FINE WORKS Jesus foretold about his group? {Matthew 28:18-20} Are these people doing it? AgirlsNightmAre did confirm that this group does it excellently!

What about the production of the fine FRUIT?
"Jehovah's Witnesses are WELL MEANING and HONEST people" ~ FatherOfJesus

"Jehovah's Witnesses are GOOD and LAW ABIDING people" ~ AgirlsNightmAre

These two are not JWs neither do they wish to commend this organization yet out of all the religions they could think of they openly confessed that Jehovah's Witnesses met the expected standard (FRUIT)

Sorry Oteneaaron, i have answered you but if you choose to disbelieve it's none of my business honest hearted and sincere individuals will read all these and benefit themselves!

Courz:
Everybody is Oteneaaron. Even a Christian still showing you Bible verses and pointing fingers at you against your Blasphemy against Jesus is Oteneaaron. Make use of your brain for once! Idiot!

Your doctrine of 1914 goes against what Jesus and Apostle Paul said about the coming of Jesus. You are also saying that Jesus and Apostle Paul know absolutely nothing of what they are talking about! Prove to me from the Bible that 1914 is indisputable! Look at the above verses and tell me where 1914 is stated there.

Funny enough AgirlsNightmAre was also ready to quote the Bible and argue until i brought out HER recent post where she denied the Bible outrightly!
So stop deceiving yourself oteneaaron but if you choose to continue deceiving yourself no wahala i'm feeling sleepy already, see you tomorrow!

Courz:
Your doctrine of 1914 goes against what Jesus and Apostle Paul said about the coming of Jesus. You are also saying that Jesus and Apostle Paul know absolutely nothing of what they are talking about! Prove to me from the Bible that 1914 is indisputable! Look at the above verses and tell me where 1914 is stated there.

Oteneaaron, don't kill yourself with HBP, the truth about JEHOVAH, Jesus and Jehovah's Witnesses is far beyond what anyone can deny. So if you and your friends aren't interested in what we have no wahala but you can never ever stop prospective subjects of God's Kingdom from traveling through the road that leads to everlasting life!

Courz:
Prove that you are a real Soldier by responding to this below:

But your doctrine of 1914 goes against what Jesus and Apostle Paul said about the coming of Jesus. You are also saying that Jesus and Apostle Paul know absolutely nothing of what they are talking about! Prove to me from the Bible that 1914 is indisputable! Look at the above verses and tell me where 1914 is stated there.

Courz:
But your doctrine of 1914 goes against what Jesus and Apostle Paul said about the coming of Jesus. You are also saying that Jesus and Apostle Paul know absolutely nothing of what they are talking about! Prove to me from the Bible that 1914 is indisputable! Look at the above verses and tell me where 1914 is stated there.

Honest hearted and sincere individuals know i have answered you so leave it the way it is my friend, those who are searching for the truth will surely read all these and benefits from it!

Broveens42:
Lol. You still didn't answer my question. Instead, you settled for common biblical events juxtaposed with the founding of other religious grops. For instance; Peter was eating with the gentiles but separated from them when people sent by James came, because he was afraid of those in support of circumcision. So biblical Paul says he rebuked Peter cus he was wrong. So let's assume Peter was wrong while Paul was right; between Paul's group and jw, who do you think is doing the right thing, Since your previous line seem to differentiate Christianity from uninformed church goers and lately trying to differentiate Christianity from Jw on your second thought?

Note that Peter was with Jesus when he said:
But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. John 14:26

So Peter could quickly sense that what Paul said there is not just Paul but the Holy Spirit {Matthew 16:17} Jesus promised that's going to bring back what he taught them that's actively operating on Paul at that point in time!

The JWs themselves has been misguided along with other religions all claiming denominations in Christendom but by the time Jesus arrived in 1914 something strange happened among the Bible students back then because lots of things they formerly believed were changed within just few years!
For your information JWs do celebrate Christmas before and after 1914 but gradually all such pagan traditions were dropped one by one until most of those who couldn't cope left the organization.

So had it been Peter tried to argue with Paul that faithful day he could have been forgotten as part of the Christians that endured all the things Jesus promised they will encounter later! Matthew 24:13

Courz:
But the same people you mentioned also criticised your Cult and called you JWs thoroughly misguided people! You also called them names! Their positive comments mean absolutely nothing.

So what does that signifies about them?

Of course they're mentally unstable!

Jesus said:
"A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:18

Therefore if someone could say a group of people are WELL MEANING and HONEST, GOOD and LAW ABIDING but later turned around and say this same people has been thoroughly misguided. Then the only way to prove such a person is mentally OK is by presenting a better performing group where this GOOD and LAW ABIDING, WELL MEANING and HONEST people should be!

Courz:
But your doctrine of 1914 goes against what Jesus and Apostle Paul said about the coming of Jesus. You are also saying that Jesus and Apostle Paul know absolutely nothing of what they are talking about! Prove to me from the Bible that 1914 is indisputable! Look at the above verses and tell me where 1914 is stated there.

You're dealing with Maximus the skillful soldier who has been trained by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to silence all tongues that rises against the truth! Isaiah 54:17

So i'm sorry my friend, you will continue to get angrier and angrier anytime you decide to do this with me because i know how to use the spiritual sword like a true Christian soldier! Luke 22:36; Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12

Courz:
But your doctrine of 1914 goes against what Jesus and Apostle Paul said about the coming of Jesus. You are also saying that Jesus and Apostle Paul know absolutely nothing of what they are talking about! Prove to me from the Bible that 1914 is indisputable! Look at the below verses and tell me where 1914 is stated there.

FatherOfJesus:
They (Jehovah's Witnesses) are usually well meaning, generally honest!
Some of the examples we have on nairaland is MaxInDHouse and cornelboy.

AgirlsNightmAre:
If you've read about RottenNaija's ordeal, something similar happened to me I reach the crossroads, I will say a crisis of conscience.
The JWs are good and law-abiding people but the leadership has continued to enforced man-made rules and promoting of mere speculations as a central doctrine coupled with a sugarcoating of their history and forcing scripture to fit organizational policy.

Let other followers read these two comments coming from the enemies of the organization then compare to what Jesus of Nazareth said himself:

By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

So prove that Jesus didn't return in 1914 as said by this group (Jehovah's Witnesses) by presenting a better performing group practicing what Jesus said to the extent of getting commendation even from those who hate the group! 1Peter 2:12

Courz:
But your doctrine of 1914 goes against what Jesus and Apostle Paul said about the coming of Jesus. You are also saying that Jesus and Apostle Paul know absolutely nothing of what they are talking about! Prove to me from the Bible that 1914 is indisputable!

The thing just dey pain you like pepper for body!
Each time the truth hits your forehead you angrily cancel it as if the original post will no longer be visible for followers to read!

Jesus himself is the evidence that what the JWs said about 1914 is indisputable!

He said:
By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

If you and all your families of the house of Apostasy can't find any group performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses and some of your friends are saying:

Jehovah's Witnesses are WELL MEANING and HONEST people ~ FatherOfJesus
Jehovah's Witnesses are GOOD and LAW ABIDING people ~ AgirlsNightmAre

And this group were able to gather this people during a time when the world is full of lawless, good for nothing, dishonest and evil people.

Then Jesus himself has confirmed that what the organization said about 1914 is TRUE. It's impossible to gather grapes from thorns nor is it possible to gather figs from thistles! Matthew 7:17

Jesus' return in the year 1914 is indisputable otherwise present any better performing group than this group who claimed Jesus chose them when he returned in the year 1914.

On this same thread (not another) remember two of your cohorts confessed that Jehovah's Witnesses are GOOD and LAW ABIDING people, the other confirmed atheist said Jehovah's Witnesses are WELL MEANING and HONEST people.

So instead of arguing blindly just present a better performing group than the one your own friends spoke well about them!

Courz:
You're not answering the questions. You are also not reading those verses I quoted. Do you see how your doctrines have too many holes to pick on? There are just too many errors to the point that you even formed your own doctrine, saying Jesus came for only the anointed. This is what happens when you lie.
Watchtower knows the 1914 doctrine is Bullshit. You JWs know it is Bullshit. This is why you still do the Memorial. In order for that doctrine to be proven TRUE, it must make sense when you view it from different perspectives. Everything that ties to it Must be True. How can you prove 1914 is true when Apostle Paul has exposed your doctrine in that single verse? Apostle Paul even exposed the fact that you JWs are Not following simple instructions. Do you know that Jesus warned about your Cult? In Matthew 24: 3 to 8, Matthew 24 vs 23-31, 2Thessalonians 2 vs 1-12, Luke 21: 7-9, several warnings are there exposing your Cult. Go and read those verses very well. Guess who has been saying the end is near from its inception? Your Cult. Guess who said Jesus has already come? Your Cult. Guess who said he came invisibly which is similar to saying he is hiding somewhere, where no one saw him? Your Cult. Right from the inception of your Cult, they have been talking about Armaggedon Armaggedon Armaggedon, End of the world. The end is near! The lord's day has come even fixing dates!! Same thing Jesus warned against! Jesus says Don't believe them. Because when I come, Everybody will see me including those that pierced me! He is saying anyone Preaching about me coming invisibly is a False prophet because just as lightening shines from East and can be seen in the West is the same way his coming will be showing that Everyone will see him.

He only has the same ability like other angels do, we know that Vladimir Putin is not the most powerful human in Russian physically neither is Joe Biden the most powerful man in America based on strength yet they control other humans. So Satan made himself the ruler among fallen angels (demons) and they're all subjecting to him not because he's the most powerful angel!

Obviously you're not even reading responses but no wahala followers will read what you're not reading so keep what you think you know while i keep mine!

Courz:
Now read John 6 vs 53 and 54. What did Jesus tell you to do there? Was there a specific instruction to great crowd separate from the anointed? Jesus was speaking in the synagogue, a public place, with the Jews and the disciples present, thus showing he was speaking generally with all people. Read the verses before and after. Are you saying the Jews were anointed at that time? Are you aware not eating the emblems means no everlasting life for you as stated by Jesus?

Secondly, Apostle Paul says you are to keep doing this to proclaim Jesus's death until he comes. But you JWs say Jesus has already come in 1914 invisibly. Why are you JWs still doing the Memorial when you say he has already come BUT Paul says you should do it UNTIL JESUS COMES?

Thirdly, show me from the Bible where it says that Jesus will come invisibly in 1914. Also, show me from the Bible where it says Jesus came only for the benefit of the anointed.

Fourth, are you aware that during the passover meal with disciples and Jesus present, the disciples WERE NOT ANOINTED at that time but were anointed with the Holy Spirit afterwards?

Courz:
Are you aware that during the passover meal with disciples and Jesus present, the disciples WERE NOT ANOINTED at that time but were anointed with the Holy Spirit afterwards?

But they were all his faithful disciples (Jews) and prospective members of his first flock!

Ayo081:
You stopped being faithful to/serving her?

Of course you can only serve where you know you're not going to loose completely but serving with all one's strength will be unwise!

AntiChristian:
Who dey read your scripture wey you dey quote?

No wahala keep doing what you're doing!

Broveens42:
Stop playing to the gallery.
When you say "they are not christians but misinformed church goers"
What do you actually mean?
Ok let's say some christians share an aspect of your teachings, who would be doing the correct thing?
The ones called christians as can be traced to Antioch or yours JW as revealed in 1931 as you said?

You can only grasp these things when you're calm, aggressive approach will not let you understand anything in this matter.

Isaiah's prophecy talks about a time when pure worship will be restored but Satan's agents will adopt a name given to God's faithful servants by observers, but since Satan's agents have adopted the name it will then become a curse to the earth in general then the true God will begin calling His own true worshipers by another group name after separating them from among Satan's agents!

Now let's take it one by one:

Jesus came to establish pure worship! Matthew 28:18-20
Satan's agents overshadowed the pioneers of pure worship after the killing of faithful servants of God! Matthew 13:25
God's Holy Spirit began a separation work towards the endtime when God is about to destroy all evildoers! Matthew 13:30 compare to Revelations 18:4
But since the fine WORKS of the pioneers of pure worship has been heard both near and far Satan's agents will hide under their adopted name to perpetrate evil, that's why most people often blame religion for killings of innocent people through the dark ages when false religions were going about claiming crusaders with Cross forcing their religion on people everywhere they go.
That's what the Arabs noticed that led to their use of force to propagate their own religion as well claiming they're also related to Christ who taught his own followers never to force people in believing what he taught! Matthew 26:52

All these happened through the dark ages until 1931 after Jesus has returned in 1914 to restructure his team in preaching and teaching towards the destruction of this system of things. Jesus couldn't find any group practicing what he laid down in the first century again as Satan has done a perfect job in derailing all the religions claiming Christians! Luke 18:8
So the only group available was a team called International Bible Students Association who are willing to make amendments in everything they learned from the Catholic Church as they could sense that something is wrong somewhere but they can't just figure it out on their own.
So when Jesus noticed this group he began using the Holy Spirit to direct them so that they started making amendments gradually, all other religions claiming denominations in Christendom were mocking the Bible students but they kept working on the correction.
By the year 1931 they have made enough change that pleased the true God so He began calling them by another name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Today you and i can testify that only this group stood out in practicing what Jesus of Nazareth taught!

Courz:
They admitted above that you JWs not partaking of the memorial emblems means You JWs do not get to benefit from the sacrifice of Jesus and everything else it brings. You are cast out without a relationship with God.

Now read John 6 vs 53 and 54. What did Jesus tell you to do there? Was there a specific instruction to great crowd separate from the anointed? Are you aware not eating the emblems means no everlasting life for you as stated by Jesus?

Jesus said:
“I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Matthew 15:24
Because it's only with Israelites that the Christ (Messiah) had a direct dealing, other nations will have to tap the connection through those having direct dealings with the Messiah! Zechariah 8:23
So when he's talking about eating his flesh and drinking his blood he was specifically addressing those who will have direct dealings with him not all mankind, that's why he often refer to this ones as the LITTLE FLOCK! Luke 12:32

Secondly, Apostle Paul says you are to keep doing this to proclaim Jesus's death until he comes. But you JWs say Jesus has already come in 1914 invisibly. Why are you JWs still doing the Memorial when you say he has already come when Paul says to do it TILL JESUS COMES?

The Christ returned in 1914 but not for the benefit of the great crowd yet, it was to start taking away the first flock and restructure his group which Satan has devastated over the centuries! Matthew 13:25
Time is coming when he will take away the rest of them and by then we will no longer do any memorial again because those directly involved are no longer with us!

Courz:
Watchtower drops some truth about themselves to test how totally brainwashed you JWs are. So they dropped this wonderful Truth below. They admitted below that you JWs not partaking of the memorial emblems means You JWs do not get to benefit from the sacrifice of Jesus and everything else it brings. You are cast out without a relationship with God.
Since this flew over your heads and there was no reaction from you JW's, showing that the Brainwashing is complete, they decided to continue to publish their lies for you JWs hoping people won't notice.

In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me." For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. 1 Corinthians 11:25-30

Those Apostates really caught rebellious and hopeless fools like you!
Jesus himself declared that he has TWO fold of SHEEP {John 10:16} so that the first fold are the ones who goes wherever he goes {Revelations 14:4} while the rest have to live permanently on planet earth! Revelations 14:6
He made a clear distinction between the first fold {Matthew 5:3} and the second fold {Matthew 5:5} but since you and your friends no longer believe the Bible how are you going to comprehend all the above quotes?

Good for nothing idiots fellowshipping with hopeless Apostates who have nothing to offer you other than false information that's of no practical benefits to anyone!
Most of you don't know that those white Apostates are ferocious racists who despises you with passion but once they realize you guys are lovers of lawlessness like themselves among the blacks they pretend you're good to go with them but just try meeting them one on one and see how much they despice anyone who is not white!

Courz:
Why didn't Watchtower inform you JWs that the so called anointed ones are Freemasons as shown in the video below? Why did the Freemasons in the video admit that Jehovah is Lucifer?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA

The highlighted shows something is wrong with your brains!

If someone didn't publicly say something why forcing it on him and asking stupid questions?

I have asked you to tell this forum what exactly is this group or organization doing that's affecting the human society in a negative way?

But instead you keep running round the circus like a clown.
Please i don't bloody care what a freemason is but tell me what this organization is doing that's badly affecting the human society that's all!

Courz:
You don't understand English, don't you? You just want to read what you want. He admitted that The Governing body are NOT the only spokesmen of God. He said it in court. He said it is presumptuous of them (governing body) to say so. How about that?

It's you who don't understand what you're saying!

Imagine Buhari in the meeting of UN and he was asked "are you President of the human race?"
Of course he will say "NO" or "That will be presumptuous"
But as him if he's leading a nation, Sai baba will boldly say "YES! I am the leader of Nigeria"

AntiChristian:
So you are the only one i've been communicating with on Nairaland. When did you become my instructor?
I have been communicating with tens of people here of which you remain a microcosm!

I can see it in your arguments with them when you start quoting the same scriptures i often quote for you!

Broveens42:
I think you are having identity crisis; bearing the name given to you by random people (Christian) while answering JW.

I love the highlighted!
So learn now that the given group name is not what our God intended calling us because our God doesn't want His true worshipers to be confused for misinformed Churchgoers that's why He began calling us by another group name in the year 1931! Isaiah 65:15

Courz:
Are you aware that one of your Governing body members, Geoffrey Jackson, denied being the only spokemen for God in a Court of law when he was asked if the governing body are spokesmen of God? He said it would be presumptuous of them to say They are the only Spokesmen of God. But in broadcasts and publications, they lie to you JWs that they are the only spokesmen of God. How about that?

That's the TRUTH!
He's a member of a TEAM serving as spokesman of the God of Jehovah's Witnesses, surely if they're spokesman of your own God you won't be here criticizing them.
So they are a TEAM of SPOKESMAN of our own God not yours!

For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him. 1Corinthians 8:5-6

There are many Gods therefore they can only be SPOKESMAN of just one God: the God of Jehovah's Witnesses!

IANAGI:
well said. Thank you

We all love you, the world needs you ALIVE!

jmoore:
Following the threats made by IPOB on the planned crusade in Aba by deeper life Bible Church, the crusade has been cancelled.


It is on record that in the year 2015, Nnamdi Kanu on Radio Biafra called for the destruction of all Deeper Life Bible Church’s posters, billboards and the burning and all of its buildings within Aba and entire eastern Nigeria.

If the young man actually did that then he deserves to be caged because what he said could lead to chaos in the society!

IANAGI:
I am good we bless God. Thanks for the advice

The first step to bless someone is appreciate His WORKS, so bless God by being appreciative of His work which is Life given to you!

AntiChristian:
You just have to mention my moniker!
You are right! I learnt a little about the brand of Christian created by one Jesus in 1914.
I also learnt that you were ill-knowledged about Islam when you were a Muslim.

You may deny the fact but it's obvious you've learned a lot from me as you no longer argue blindly as you used to do when you first came to Nairaland but now raising points that even the churchgoers can't refute with the Bible!

AntiChristian:
You made him your God.

You can make anything your god and that's what most people are doing today.
Moses was God {Exodus 7:1} so most Israelites after him revere him as the their saviour since it was recorded that he spoke face to face with their God! Deuteronomy 34:10

In Jesus' case he served as God in the midst of his people in the first century {John 1:1} but his own disciples never worshiped him as God rather they did OBEISANCE to him which means they subjected themselves to whatever comes out of his mouth in accord with what God commanded the Israelites {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} this was erroneously mistranslated WORSHIP by trinitarians hence people like the OP concluded that Jesus is the God they should worship.

In his own statements it's clear that someone sent Jesus {John 3:16} and according to Jesus it's that person that deserves to be worshiped! John 20:17

S3X is fun but in ancient pagan traditions in the East there is what is known as "ritual sex" that's what most so called pastors are involved in this days not just the fun.
So they may claim they're worshiping the God of the Bible but in reality they're worshiping those demons who have transformed into angels of light to deceive many! 2Corinthians 11:14