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LordReed:
Kindly quote anywhere I said science belongs to atheists. Ok so it is faith not logic that solves problems. Bwahahahahahaha!

Real faith is BASED on LOGICAL REASONING to solve problems having to do with how humans think.

That's why the Bible says only those getting the logic can solve the problem of hating and killing fellow humans but apart from the Bible there is no other solution to making people from different nations throughout the world come together as one family! Isaiah 2:2-4

LordReed:
I showed you that lesson. LoLz. You wanted to twist it to mean something about your favorite book of Jewish mythology.

The lesson is SOLVING PROBLEMS WITH REASONING not just always arguing to discredit whatever others are doing to help.

Atheism is about complaining without preferring any solution to the problems that's why you people always claim you own science whereas science belongs to all people whether you believe in God or not.

So when there is problems having to do with how people think only faith in God can solve such a problem not aimless arguments.

That's where logical reasoning helps!🙂

LordReed:
I am not like you who goes about boasting about how people are praising you on Nairaland. Bwahahahahahahaha!

Is this the answer to the question?

Well you've learned another lesson today, logic is what we use to solve problems not just arguing aimlessly!😟

LordReed:
Guy that is NOT the Oxford dictionary. I have that dictionary and it pulls from Wikitionary not Oxford. You don't even know what you are quoting. BTW what it is describing is linear thinking not logic. See the screenshot.
LoLz. I showed you the actual Oxford dictionary definitions so I dunno what you mean by "Why not bring out the definition"

Point has been made my guy and there is no reason trying to dodge or hide logic however you try to define it is a means to solving problems and it has to do with human thinking or reasoning.

So i ask you again:

What problem have you ever solved for anyone here with all your years of arguing on the religion section of Nairaland?🙂

Roycemadeit:
@MaxInDHouse
^{I am sure that you won't understand this either 😭}
Don’t confuse applause from believers with knowledge. You don’t know better - you only believe harder.
I didn’t start this discussion with you. When you joined, I took no offence. Yet you misquoted and misunderstood posts, maligned fellow Christians, dismissed evidence, and crowned yourself enlightened - all while offering imagination and an unquestioned book in place of logic or history.

^{You don’t belong in conversations that demand evidence, history, and logic if all you offer is imagination propped up by a book you refuse to question. Humanity progressed by interrogating beliefs, not by freezing them in reverence while silencing conscience and reason. The corruption and historical baggage of your faith are invisible to you only because you’ve never examined them honestly.}
And stop projecting your framework onto me. I don’t operate on belief or faith.

This is the topic of your thread:

"Is sin innate in us?"

Well the Bible's answer to that question is YES.

So if you have anything further to ask let me know there's no need labeling me for coming to your thread and if you feel i shouldn't have come please let me know and off i'll go.

LordReed:
This is how we catch you in a lie. The attached screenshots are the Oxford dictionary definitions of Logic. None of them say anything about problem solving.
When will you change?

See what atheism has done to you?

Why not bring out the definition instead of making it all clumsy as if the word LOGIC has no definition?😟

Well here is the screenshot of my OXFORD DICTIONARY:

When a man or woman is addressed in the public with any religion title such a person is not a disciple of Christ Jesus!



“The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others. “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. The greatest among you will be your servant. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted. ‭Matthew 23:2-12 NIV‬


Why do people carry religious titles out to the streets?
Jesus answered: To be highly respected and greeted in the public with their titles.

So Jesus commanded his own followers never to be addressed with religious titles rather we all address one another as "BROTHERS" and "SISTERS"

Satan is crafty he may refer to what Paul wrote in the Bible book of Ephesians 4:11


So Christ himself gave the APOSTLES, the PROPHETS, the EVANGELISTS, the PASTORS and TEACHERS, ‭Ephesians 4:11 NIV‬


Does this negates what Jesus taught his disciples?

The answer is NO.

Each disciple who is diligent with his or her discipleship will be given the spirit to serve others in the congregation (church) in different ways but then it's only among the disciples that such ones are recognized due to their activities not by the general public who has nothing to do with the faith.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣What's bullshit about the Ai analysis....I thought you claimed that your stand was a universal fact. Do you understand what it means for something to be a universal fact?

They only open their mouth to talk since they feel religion makes no sense they're always trying to discredit whatever God's word say but by the end of the day they prove God's word right as they fail to make sense even in their own reasoning!

He frustrates the schemes of the crafty, So that the work of their hands does not succeed. He catches the wise in their own cunning, So that the plans of the shrewd are thwarted. Job 5:12-13

With God's word in your hand their power of reasoning is rendered dead!🙂

LordReed:
Kindly show me that dictionary definition.I am not like you who boasts of their doing.

Now it's good as you want to learn!
See the Oxford dictionary meaning of the word LOGIC:

A method of human thought that involves thinking in a linear, step-by-step manner about how a problem can be solved. Logic is the basis of many principles including the scientific method.

That is why we can boast for knowing the only true God Jehovah:

“Let not the wise man boast about his wisdom; Let not the mighty man boast about his mightiness; And let not the rich man boast about his riches.”  “But let the one boasting boast about this: That he has insight and knowledge of me, That I am Jehovah, the One showing loyal love, justice, and righteousness in the earth, For in these things I take delight,” declares Jehovah. Jeremiah 9:23-24

Arda1000:
your delusions are really strong man

Your personal opinion!🙂

LordReed:
Logic in the dictionary has nothing to do with practical benefit.

According to the dictionary it has to do with solving problems.
Please tell me what problem have you ever solved for anyone here with all your years of arguing on the religion section of Nairaland?🙂

Arda1000:
jesus trained u?
😳

YES! That's our TEACHER!🙂

Arda1000:
am tired of your rants ok Bible is everything

Do you say rants?
Better start thinking about how people who lived thousands of years ago could accurately tell the shape of the earth, the gravitational force keeping the earth in space and the water circle if they were not being taught by the supernatural: GOD!🙂

LordReed:
You don't get your own meaning of logic.

Check your dictionary it's not about the fruitless arguments you go about doing on Nairaland rather it's about changing the way people reason to benefit all those around you.

LordReed:
Good for you.

That's what LOGIC means to us not just arguing to win when there is no practical benefits!🙂

LordReed:
You are the one who argues about the book. I have accepted what it is, a compendium of Jewish myths, legends and fables. Myths, legends and fables don't lend themselves very well to logic and sound reasoning that is why you have to argue and twist its words to fit whatever tale you want to tell.

Whatever you feel we have people who TRUST (BELIEVE) our book and benefiting maximally from doing so!🙂

Arda1000:
for your information many civilizations have discovered much more about bible than your Bible,infact bible knew very little about the earth and the universe I don’t even want to waste my time trying to educate you on that one cause you even bringing such a thing means you believe the Bible writers knew much better than scientists 😂

What i want you to know is that the Bible is not a science textbook but when it touches on science it's message is accurate.

Arda1000:
why are u triggered?
Isn’t this a public forum?

Jesus didn't train us to speak to people like barbarians do so it's one person at a time that we reason with based on the person's perspective not talking out of nowhere when two persons are trying to reason together.

Chidolalar:
Good you just confirmed my point by defending the indefensible like I earlier pointed out by not answering what I asked you in d exact way and keep running round circles with no specific direction.

I have answered you several times that human parents have proved you wrong by having children so if you say someone supposed not to have children that's your PERSONAL OPINION.

LordReed:
Argue with a book of Jewish myths, legends and fables? That's your job.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa, i TEACH (EXPLAIN) to whoever has respect for the book as for people who don't regard it we speak with them on logics and reasonings.
If you want to reason with me on what i believe surely i will attend to you but if you want to argue about the book since you don't regard it i must not give you that chance.

Roycemadeit:
Believing and knowing aren't the same. And I should not trust a person who says, "God says, " especially when I didn't observe God saying anything to him... If God wanted me to know something he would tell me, not gossip about me with you.

Are you the same person as Arda1000?

Because i really don't get why you suddenly started responding to posts not meant for you?😟

Guy you keep quoting posts not meant for you so i don't understand you again I!🤔

Roycemadeit:
The idea that scientific awareness began with the Bible is historically false; it is a later theological framing imposed on much older human knowledge.

Beyond astronomy, empirical evidence destroys the 6,000-year biblical timeline. Radiometric dating, archaeology, and paleoanthropology show the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old, with human ancestors stretching back hundreds of thousands to millions of years, long before any biblical Adam.

These are not Western opinions; they are globally corroborated findings. Christianity did not introduce knowledge of the world; it arrived late, plagiarizing and reinterpreting earlier cosmologies.

Treating ancient history as if it must pass through a Christian lens is not scholarship, it is revisionism. World history does not begin in Genesis, and human understanding did not wait for the Bible to exist.

Even Jesus, is the sun up there in the sky not some mythical man...

Roycemadeit:
First of, I ain't an atheist and second, I didn't claim that jesus ever existed, apparently you read and pick what you believe not that you comprehend.

Guy that post is not for you so rest!🙂

Truthseeker10:
Oga your beliefs does not matter here. Interpretation does.
You are clearly Interpreting and not repeating.
If you are claiming to repeat what the verse says, kindly show us where the verse says "in company of an archangel's voice"?
Lol....ok if the verse says the lord, what does John 11:25 and John 5:25 say?
How does who raised Jesus from the dead contradicts the fact that Jesus' voice would raise the dead?

Do you see the reason why i ignored the two of them?

A believer in God's word won't continue arguing after seeing what is written in the Bible but atheists will just be wasting your time!

LordReed:
As a human being.

So you can even argue with the book itself shey?🙂

Arda1000:
what rubbish 😂😂.
Well am not surprised cus while intelligent people are reading numerous books so as to learn new things.
You only read a book written by semiliterate herdsmen who didn’t know where the sun went after sunset 😂

The book that said the earth is spherical and that there is a magnetic force gluing the inhabitants to it's surface thousands of years before your people later discovered it's correct? Isaiah 40:22

Or that explained water circle thousands of years before your people began doing gragra as if they discovered something new? Job 36:27-28

Or that explained how God suspended the earth upon nothing in space thousands of years before your people knew it? Job 26:7

Ọmọ that book has a lot that you and all your teachers can't discover in the next thousand years to come!🙂

DeepSight:
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As I have always told you, this only shows your need for validation and discloses an inferiority complex. Its also very creepy. It suggests mental illness.

Call it whatever you want the Interested person who has deep feelings for God's word saw the quotations and trembled because he respect the Bible not faithless people like you!🙂

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣so it's the archangel's voice and Jesus that would raise the dead?
You mean that Jesus does not have the power to resurrect the dead?
Below is John 11:25 and John 5:25
King James Bible
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
King James Bible
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

The funny thing is asking how God raised Jesus from the dead as if God must call like Jesus did!

LordReed:
LoLz. Why are you sour because we know the book too?

You know the book as what o?🙂

DeepSight:
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It is not up to you to give the bible to me I am sure I had read it several times while you were still a child or even not yet born.

Go and teach what you know at least i've gotten many here who respected me for what i teach.

Let me add what used to make you cry:

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Kingsempires:
wow I love this your statement 🙂🙏

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

JimRohn:
Do you really consider DeepSight to be on the same intellectual level as MaxInDHouse or some of the other individuals I engage with here?

Because frankly, MaxInDHouse is among the most intelligent contributors on Nairaland. In contrast, DeepSight does not even qualify for consideration when I rate people based on intellect.

That is precisely why I refuse to bring myself down to his level — instead, I choose to engage with those whose reasoning and arguments are worth my time.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

RavinWolf:
I never saw a better response. Thank you. 100% correct!

Roycemadeit:
Yes, you have silenced me, with facts, of course. You can define knowingness; now try defining belief and faith, and show me how they connect to reality...

Arda1000:
religious indoctrinations has now clouded your sense.
Please don’t interchange proof with wishful claims

Oh at last you've served your ban for using abusive speeches.

I've forgotten that AI is your god but that is your own personal problem.

Trust means believing in someone or something when you wake up in the morning, pick up your tooth brush and tooth paste it indicates that you BELIEVE (TRUST) that after use you'll get a fresh breath otherwise you won't confidently use it.

So believe means you trust in something or someone.

DeepSight:
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I am not an atheist and I have already said the Bible is not inerrant.

So if you believe it's not God's word and it has errors then what exactly do you expect from such a book?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself if you don't believe the Bible Jesus said i should not share God's precious words with you:

“Do not give what is holy to dogs nor throw your pearls before swine, so that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open" Matthew 7:6

So go for what you believe (trust) faith is not what your type cherish! 2Thessalonians 3:2