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stagger:
Is this from the bible? Why do you think Mike Murdoch never remarried?

Come on!
This is no longer about the Bible rather it's what the society approves.

If you want to talk about what the Bible approves anyone addressed publicly with a religious title is not a Christian! Matthew 23:8-10😟

HeatSeeker:
The Jews have never denied the existence of Jesus How is this a point that should be highlighted?
What is more interesting are the many claims made by people who profess or deny his divinity. Of which the most entertaining is the idea that the Archangel Michael = Jesus

What did Jesus say will help everyone to know his real disciples?
Is it what they claim or the doing of God's will?🙂

Arda1000:
everyone is entitled to his own opinion,there’s still no established evidence of a historical Jesus,neither is there any proof of him doing any magic.

So go and convince your brother in your Atheism before coming here to cry over what your Atheist brother has welcomed!🙂

In a world where sex before marriage is approved by the majority any lady taken to the altar by a man is the right woman not those he's been sleeping with secretly.
God won't judge a single fornicator it takes two consenting parties to commit fornication so if any woman comes crying to the public that a man has been sleeping with her secretly only to marry someone else both of them are guilty of fornication o!😟

HeatSeeker:
Would you prefer it if he had Said Jesus was the archangel Michael?

One thing at a time.

Was Jesus a historical figure in the first century Jewish community?

Yes or no?

LordReed:
Holy Andromeda! You guys need to get on this cos he is blowing away Christians left and right on this subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMftlybrOBs
If you think he is wrong get on his channel and prove him wrong.

At least you believe this person though he didn't say Jesus never existed.

So it's no longer the case of Jesus never existed shey?

This is becoming more interesting!

Arda1000:
that’s the truth

Your wish!

See your brother in Atheism has agreed that Jesus is a historical figure o!

LordReed:
Holy Andromeda! You guys need to get on this cos he is blowing away Christians left and right on this subject.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMftlybrOBs

If you think he is wrong get on his channel and prove him wrong.

olabrad:
Were you born when Shehu shagari or murtala Muhammad were presidents? Did you meet them face to face? Were you on earth when Ajayi Crowther translated English to Yoruba? Did you meet Ajayi Crowther?

If you didn't meet them, why did you believe the stories you heard about them?!

Were you alive when amalgamation of northern and southern protectorates occur in 1914, leading to formation of Nigeria?! Why then do you believe the story when you never met Lord lugard face to face to confirm the story?;

Don't mind the funny atheist.

He believed because he saw their photographs even though he didn't see any of them doing what people said about them!

Arda1000:
no u lie,bible stories are lies and fabricated

That's your wish nah.

muslim100:
They believe that jesus is Archangel Gabriel, nothing in the Bible suggests such. Can you explain to me how?

When you don't know something there's no need claiming they are wrong.

First of all the Bible said Jesus has been with the Almighty God from beginning of creation {John 1:2} and that he also did most of the creation works {Colossians 1:15-16} and there are spirit creatures in heaven (angels) called God's sons {Job 38:7} according to that verse they are all morning stars and Jesus called himself one of them. Revelation 22:16

So if Jesus is one of the angels but the brightest one among them and God's word called only one of them archangel which is Michael who always stand up for the salvation of God's people {Daniel 12:1} who will raise the dead from their graves {Daniel 12:2} and the Bible says clearly that it's the archangel's voice that will raise the dead from their graves! 1Thessalonians 4:16

One angel always represent God when His worshipers needs urgent escape {Exodus 13:21; 14:19 compare to Daniel 3:25} and Jesus emphasized that he has been doing that for so long! Matthew 23:37

Please if Jesus is not the God whom all servants of God has been worshiping for so long but also a worshiper of God and he referred to faithful people as his brother {John 20:17} because he was also born among humans! Matthew 20:28

Who could he be if not the Archangel?

Antichristian2:
So if i as a non-Christian too see a light that call itself Jesus, can i write scripture for you too?

If a none Muslim claims being a sheik to see how Muhammad is suffering in Hellfire will you accept such person?🙂

Arda1000:
well there’s no evidence that Josephus saw Jesus so how could he write about him,when he wasn’t even born when Jesus was alive?
Another thing is many of his works were forged by Christians who are bent on lying about their religious claims

The highlighted is enough evidence to tell that you guys will swallow whatever you want just to deny the truth!

Arda1000:
funny man,so Yoruba people have the concept of satan?
Do you also believe in Yoruba gods too?
Or do you just cherry-pick the ones u want to believe to support ur delusional beliefs?

In each culture there is an atom of truth about the truth found in the Bible but it's only the Bible that gives us the clear picture.

Roycemadeit:
Perhaps, some history lessons...ehn?
Cultures that never encountered Christianity had no idea of the Devil as Christians describe it. The Devil is a figure that belongs to the Abrahamic religions. Other cultures had spirits or forces they feared, but not a single evil being opposing one supreme God.

Do you know the purpose of education at all?

Well it's to help you know practices and ideas that's wrong.

So if all other cultures doesn't see Satan the way Bible describes him but they all agreed that people often does bad things and many do support the bad guys to achieve their evil intentions common sense should tell us that there is a supernatural force promoting evil deeds.

Meanwhile the Yorùbás have existed for centuries if not thousands of years with the belief that there is a wicked spirit whose craving is to deceive and cause confusion leading people to fight and even kill their love ones.

So the Bible's description of Satan is 100% correct!

Arda1000:
kindly answer the question you

Stop deceiving yourself Flavius Josephus was not a believer in Jesus that's what makes his write-up a strong evidence after all critics like you often claim there is no historical evidence of Jesus' life outside the Bible but Josephus's write-up has silenced all of you!🙂

olabrad:
Uuuur question is steeuped. Uuu said no Christianity during the time of Josephus. Josephus died in 100AD. Uuur comment means there was no Christianity until 100AD. Does that sound sensible to uuu?!

If it's possible for atheists they will surely rewrite history and erase anything to do with Flavius Josephus.
Whether they like it or not the Jewish historian has given enough witness about Jesus of Nazareth so they have no excuse!🙂

olabrad:
Are you asking if the archeologists are eye witnesses?. If so, then that's a very duomb question!

Atheists are the funniest of all humans.

They are ready to BELIEVE fossils that no man knows where they came from but when it's time to talk about archeology and the things recovered having to do with Bible events they will turn a blind eye!🙂

muslim100:
Shouldn't I ask questions while seeking truth?

If truly you are seeking truth tell me what you know Jehovah's Witnesses are teaching about Jesus that's not 100% truth.
In the world today there are thousands of religious groups worshiping thousands of different Gods so asking questions about only those claiming Christians alone shows you only listen to them and not to other religions.
Now if you singled out just one group (Jehovah's Witnesses) out of thousands of others claiming Christians that means you have a reservation for that group yet you said their teaching about Jesus is not 100% correct.
So start your seeking stuff by telling me what exactly is not accurate about JWs teaching of Jesus.

Chidolalar:
Is it by force for God to love to have children on planet earth? Yes or no?
Is it by force for God to create humans in the beginning? Yes or no?

Is it by force for you to have children?

The reason why i abandoned Islam is the lies that surround your god.

Your prophet told you to always greet each other "SALAM" which means "PEACE" but in the face of politics and racism that peace ends and you will see Muslims killing Muslims yet they will still greet "SALAM"

Whatever teaching or doctrine dividing the Churches of Christendom is better than the lies you people tells yourselves in Islam because it's obvious there is no god among you. Bowing towards the black stone in Mecca is not an evidence of unity but settling disputes by using the words of your god should be proof that you people respect that your god and see it as real.

Shimran:
At bold: The dumbest things someone could have ever said regarding Muhammad and Islam! Read History of Muhammad, written by Westerners. Enlighten yourself.
I asked, give me a single lie Muhammad has made, you're writing gibberish! I am still waiting

Muhammad copied from the Church but:
✓ Refused to called God, the Father?
✓ Debunked trinity?
✓ Debunked Crucifixion?
✓ Condemned confessions of sins?
For your information: Rosaries and Cap got no links to Islam. There's nothing like holy women and men in Islam. Ignorance is disaster!
What has Islam got to do with images? Images of who exactly? Jesus or what?

Continue deceiving yourself!

*Rosaries was gotten from the Catholics.

*The white cap male Muslims wear copied from Catholic priests.

*Catholic nuns always cover most part of their bodies so Muhammad copied it and said all female Muslims should do the same as he feels that is what holy women does in Catholic.

*The black stone in Mecca was the house of all idols so Muhammad copied bowing to the house from Catholics.

*Crusades fighting to force religion on people was copied from Catholics.

*Raising voice to call worshipers from a far distance was copied from Catholics.

*Ritual fasting was copied from Catholics and it was reduced to thirty days.

*Traveling to the holy land was copied from Catholics.

Regarding Jesus and God issue your man doesn't want his gullible followers to downgrade him so he rejected the Trinity.

thinkmoney:
The Angel didn’t explain everything to Daniel. He told Daniel some meaning of the revelation will only be know until the last days. I pointed out to you that those beasts representing nations too were burnt. Was Roman Empire, Greece empire and Babylonian empire at anytime destroyed by literal fire?

I told you it's not everyone that deserves your precious time, some just feel like arguing aimlessly not clarifying issues to know those with whom they should associate.
Here on Nairaland members of the same church do argue and abusive about it because each of them just want to establish his own righteousness instead of seeking the the righteousness of God! Romans 10:2-3
Only the righteousness of God can make believers relate as one spiritual family {John 17:22} but once each person chooses what he or she wants to believe there can never be oneness in thought! 1Corinthans 1:10

muslim100:
I am more inclined to the Jehovah witness model of Jesus because it is more in-line with the Bible - not 100%.

Do you believe in the Bible or you want to use your Quran to explain what the Bible says?

Well there is nothing wrong with what the JWs teaches about the Bible!🙂

thinkmoney:
Maybe I don’t know the meaning of metaphor. Because I don’t understand this fuss.
Ok, what I mean all the while is that the lake of fire is not a literal burning fire, it’s an analogy to represent things coming to an end- being put out of existence. Bad people, the beast, Satan, death, grave all get thrown into this FIGURATIVE lake of fire, which means SECOND DEATH.
So if you will continue making fuss and keep saying the lake is a literal fire then fare there well bro. I don try for you.
If your head block others are not that irredeemable.

If he ask you what Daniel meant by fire please tell him that Daniel himself asked God for the meaning of these symbolic terms but God told him it's not for him or his generation to understand what it means:

I heard the answer, but I really didn’t understand. So I asked, “Sir, what will happen after all this comes true?” Daniel 12:8

God responded:

“Go on about your life Daniel. The message is hidden. It will be a secret until the time of the end. Daniel 12:9

So the meaning of all these symbolic terms were hidden until our own time and only true servants of God will know the meaning Jesus said it's these anointed Christians that will teach his real disciples in the end time the meaning of all these signs! Matthew 24:45

For your information the Bible book of Daniel 12:1 revealed that archangel Michael is the one who will lead servants of God to unravel all these sacred secrets well if you are willing to accept it Jesus Christ is the hidden archangel Michael so only those who recognize his presence will understand!

Roycemadeit:
@MaxInDHouse
Many have been taught that paradise or heaven is a place of perfect happiness, but I do see fallacy in it, there is no way to remain truly happy if a close relative or friend are suffering or excluded.

To accept that, a person would have to put aside normal human feelings and conscience. The only way it would be a place of happiness is that people are changed in heaven, maybe their minds formatted, human empathy must be removed for happiness to be in paradise.

Why do you think only believers in Jesus can have the visa to live forever?

Well my friend they must become perfect like Jesus before they can have everlasting life.

So humble yourself and learn millions are making changes in their lives to meet the criteria though whatever we do now is just to enter Paradise as for everlasting life that's another thing entirely. Remember Jesus promised the thief Paradise not everlasting life {Luke 23:43} because we will need a thousand years to master Jesus' thoughts words and actions perfectly {Revelations 20:4} within a thousand years everyone must become like Jesus as for those who fails to meet up Satan will be let loose {Revelation 20:7-9} to send them back to their graves because he must be destroyed along with all those who can't become like Jesus! Revelation 20:10-15

So the true God is CREATING a new heavens (rulers who have become like Jesus) and a new EARTH (subjects who have become like Jesus) it's an ongoing process {Isaiah 6617,22} that's certain! Isaiah 55:10-11

Chidolalar:
If God didn't start the creation in the beginning, would humans have existed?

He loves to have children on planet earth just like human parents that's why the Bible said He made us in His image.

So if you wish to have children don't blame God because you are exhibiting His trait. Genesis 1:27

thinkmoney:
Doesn’t what the book contain proof “symbolized “ in the introductory verse of verse 1, accurate?

Do you think everyone worths a reply?

DeepSight:
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This conversation is beyond you Max.
No worries, I am coming. I am busy now.

He won't deny God's word o if that's what you are waiting for o ti ṣìí!🙂

thinkmoney:
Thank you jo
Na. Just love make me dey answer him still

He ran away from Truthseeker10 when he noticed that one is 100 times wiser than him he's been running away from me now he's looking for someone with whom he could prove intelligent.

DeepSight:
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Shattap Max. Is it because I ignored the nonsense you wrote this morning that you are growing wings?

So he must condemn God's word to make you feel happy shey?

thinkmoney:
Let me answer. In the proverbs ; “breeze go blow and the fowl yansh will open”, is the breeze a literal breeze?
Now to help further. In the introductory verse of revelation, the very first verse, verse 1, it said plsinly that the messages there are given in signs-that is, they symbolize things that are to come.

If not because you often engage people on the politics section i would have said you must be one of my brothers!😟

thinkmoney:
I am honest with you, but then I said it’s in part. But see here again in Genesis around the time of Abraham, see what God said then. Note this is about 300 years before the crusade to take over those lands.

“But they will return here in the fourth generation, because the error of the Amʹor·ites has not yet reached its full measure.”
Genesis 15:16.

DeepSight is not honest with discussions like this he will continue to change the topic until you are worn out.🥴