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thinkmoney:
I left it like that to encourage discussion on the topic, I was expecting him to cite passages and even ask me for proofs. Thank you for coming in

You're welcome Sir.

Most of these people have lost interest in God's word but then when you tell them something really strange quoting the scriptures will make them have a rethink.

Imagine one boy telling me i should be one of his worshipers because he is into aviation and has discovered something in the sector so he believes i should worship him after all i travel through air.

Just a comment silenced him completely when i asked him what should farmers do since we can't survive without them but people have lived thousands of years on this planet before aeroplane was discovered?🙂

Shimran:
You're getting funny
You and I got different regarding our origin/existence. I'm religious person while I doubt if you are.

Responding to your previous question would mean i don't know what I am doing because you deny the basis on which I will use to answer you back!
So effort is equal worthless.

Going by the highlighted being religious is not the same as being knowledgeable about God's word:

For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge. Romans 10:2

So you can be religious yet lacking in knowledge! Hosea 4:6

When real Christians come around to enlighten you most of you will send them away speaking abusively to them.

Just imagine the Antichrist that has been here since the days of the Apostles:

Young children, it is the last hour, and just as you have heard that the ANTICHRIST is coming, even now many ANTICHRISTS have appeared, from which fact we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort. 1John 2:18-19

When was Barack Obama born?🙂

Chidolalar:
The best thing would have been God should have existed alone and all by himself anr keep his free will to himself and shouldn't have created humans in the first place.

It's misinformed churchgoers that's your problem otherwise what the Bible teaches is easy to grasp for any right thinking person.

Since you prefer not to exist there is no need worrying yourself the verdict came from your own mouth but those that cherish life will surely get it and they will live forever! Psalms 37:29; John 3:16

God has no business with people who chose death He has given you a taste of what it feels to be alive though you won't kill yourself now but be rest assured that this is your own share when millions will get this, enjoy it with you and still get a firm hold on the real life which is everlasting! 1Timothy 6:19

Chidolalar:
The bible says they won't go to hell but only seize to exist right?

That's why it's better to add scriptures to responses so you can see for yourself that it's what the scriptures says:

thinkmoney:
They seize to exist
Life is the gift from God. They forfeit that gift

For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23

Death (a return to non-existence) is the result of evil doing while everlasting life is a gift from God.

Antichristian2:
This is false. It is not everything to turn against that makes you not among God's worshipers! A Muslim that fornicates/drinks alcohol will still remain a Muslim but a sinner!

Will he get access to Paradise?

Antichristian2:
So God's statndards still require killings amongs yourselves!
Do you see your hypocrisy now?
To make peace reign God told the israelites to kill themselves!

He told them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each of you men is to fasten his sword to his side, go back and forth through the camp from gate to gate, and slay his brother, his friend, and his neighbor.’ ” The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people fell dead. Exodus 32:27-28

NO!
Whoever turns against God's standard is no longer one of God's worshipers that's what Sharia taught you if you've forgotten!🙂

Wow!
Is this how low your IQ?😟

So you're confused about standards for making peace reign among worshipers.

Well these are rules to make Israelites know the consequences of evil doing.

And for your information you can't find your way into Paradise if you can't live by God's standards that's what we need to see here before we can believe in the God who is setting the standards so if your God failed to make peace reign among its worshipers now where is the assurance that it can give you Paradise?🙂

Antichristian2:
Do you want the Qur'an to use Jehovah? You don't define who Allah is.

Where was peace in the Bible, just show me?

1. Death for Murder
"Whoever strikes a man so that he dies shall be put to death." (Exodus 21:12)

2. Death for Kidnapping
"Whoever kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or is found in possession of him, shall be put to death." (Exodus 21:16)

3. Death for Cursing Parents
"Whoever curses his father or his mother shall be put to death." (Leviticus 20:9)

4. Death for Adultery
"If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10)

5. Death for Witchcraft and Divination
"A man or a woman who is a medium or necromancer shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:27)

6. Death for Blasphemy
"Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 24:16)

7. Death for Sabbath Violation
"Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death." (Exodus 31:15)

8. Death for False Prophecy
"If a prophet presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak... that prophet shall die." (Deuteronomy 18:20)

9. Stoning for Rebellious Children
"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother... then all the men of his city shall stone him to death." (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

10. Death for Bestiality
"If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 22:19)[/size]

More killings
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” 1 Samuel 15:3

More killings, spare virgins!
So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man. Numbers 31:17-18

Here is another!
He told them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each of you men is to fasten his sword to his side, go back and forth through the camp from gate to gate, and slay his brother, his friend, and his neighbor.’ ” The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people fell dead. Exodus 32:27-28

The funny thing about people who don't think deeply is how easily they get carried away with every wind of teachings {Ephesians 4:14} they're saying it's better to claim atheist under the umbrella of science when science belongs to everybody.
Another funny thing about them is how they mock faith in the Bible claiming snakes and donkeys don't talk but the same people believe that monkeys are their ancestors.
If we say evolution is better than creation please that should be based on what criteria?
As far as i'm concerned both sides are even on this matter but when it comes to the way forward to mankind's peace i strongly believe the creation has a better chance because evolution doesn't teach it's adherents how to cohabit peacefully after all they are monkeys whereas creation teaches about a supreme Ruler who wants peace to reign among His subjects.
Evolution teaches the survival of the fittest which means once you are able to discover anything that could kill your neighbors you have the right to set standards like a God among them which is the major reason why world rulers are diverting the resources meant for making food abundant for their subjects into production of destructive devices while their subjects are dying of hunger.

In fact if i'm given the opportunity to talk sense into most of these atheists they will run away if they choose to continue deceiving themselves.

Ezyp:
Well since science doesn't know, then it is safe to say it is God right?.

Antichristian2:
The world is not meant to be peaceful, at least not for long!
How many peaceful years did Jesus have in your Bible?
True peace lies in paradise!

Surely your Quran failed woefully when it comes to the meaning of that title "GOD"
Supreme Ruler means someone who is able to set boundaries and make things right among adherents or subjects.
So the first and foremost duty of anyone who claims to be supreme is to make peace reign among His subjects that's what proves such a person capable of setting standards.
If your Allah failed to make peace reign among its worshipers then what is the essence of all the things written in your Quran?
Jesus was attacked by people who don't believe in his God not his own fellow believers.
Do you think any Muslim have the right to attack your prophet because the world is not meant to be peaceful?
What is the essence of greeting SALAM when your Allah failed to make SALAM work among its worshipers?🙂

Guestmale:
Just give me a hint.

Check the Internet you don't have to be spoonfed all the time.

Guestmale:
Can you tell us the genesis or the cause of their enmity.

Check the Internet it not hidden joo!🙂

kennethesan:
If you think you share the same breathe with animals, fine. Definitely, not me. Cheers.

But that's what is written in the Bible.
Surely you don't believe the Bible!😟

Zocalite:
Go and do a survey if jw are real followers of Jesus Christ
Continue deceiving yourself

You can't even quote God's word to prove the lies and hatred your pastors infused in your head against God's servants. Matthew 5:11-12
Well thank God it's all written in God's word you people only follow pastors with nothing in your head to back whatever they told you!
At least now you know Jesus is not God to his disciples rather they are his brothers! John 20:17

There was never a time God refer to His worshipers as BROTHERS.🙂

Mrexcell:
Pastor adeboye might who has created a political ministry might actually be the real target.

Nah them sabi jàre!🙂

Guestmale:
We are not God, it is only God that knows that.

We have God's word so it's through His word that we know His feelings unless we choose to deceive ourselves.

Guestmale:
There's definitely difference between the God of heaven and earth and the one you're trying to pursulate in that same.corinthians, Apostle Paul stated this clearly

1 Corinthians 8:5-6 KJV
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Do you think Oyedepo and Bakare are worshipers of that same God yet there is enmity between them?🙂

This is what Apostle Paul a born again follower of Christ Jesus said about sin:

[b]"For I do not understand what I am doing. For I do not practice what I wish, but I do what I hate. However, if I do what I do not wish, I agree that the Law is fine.  But now I am no longer the one doing it, but it is the sin that resides in me. For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, there dwells nothing good; for I have the desire to do what is fine but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good that I wish, but the bad that I do not wish is what I practice.  If, then, I do what I do not wish, I am no longer the one carrying it out, but it is the sin dwelling in me. I find, then, this law in my case: When I wish to do what is right, what is bad is present with me. I really delight in the law of God according to the man I am within, but I see in my body another law warring against the law of my mind and leading me captive to sin’s law that is in my body. Miserable man that I am! Who will rescue me from the body undergoing this death?  Thanks to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So, then, with my mind I myself am a slave to God’s law, but with my flesh to sin’s law" Romans 7:15-25[/b]

What is Apostle Paul saying here?🤔

Zocalite:
See me see trouble jw cult is talking to me about Jesus Christ
Oya weave another semantics

Calling the real disciples of Christ CULT is what he foretold:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

Are you truly a disciple of Jesus or you've been misinformed by churchgoers? Matthew 7:21-23🙂

Zocalite:
Is it in the JehovahWitness bible too?
Just like quran una like plagiarism.

Do you believe what Jesus said himself or your pastors?🙂

Jesus called his disciples "BROTHERS" not his worshipers and said his God is our God and his father is our father. John 20:17🙂

Guestmale:
There is only one God the creator of heaven and earth .So where did you get your own from?

You deceived yourself.

The Bible acknowledged there are many Gods {1Corinthans 8:5} and don't come telling me that the upper or lower case makes a difference it's translators that's using the upper or lower case to separate their God there are thousands of Gods out there and it's by their fruits {Matthew 7:16-18} you will recognize worshipers of the same God not what they claim! Matthew 7:21-23

Guestmale:
You haven't answer my question.

Have you answered my own?

Are they worshipers of the same God?

Guestmale:
Which different God are they worshipping?.

That's what makes him a hypocrite!

Antichristian2:
Keep showing us you were extremely devoid of knowledge back then as a Muslim.

There is no knowledge in a deity failing to make peace reign among worshipers!🙂

Insectkiller:

My God don't just heal.. He made whole.. My God don't just give a surprise.. He is a Wonder.. My God is not static or a statue.. He is Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent..
He reveals and whatever He says He will do, He will surely do.. My God, the Almighty God, Unchangeable Changer is Indescribable. Don't even dare...

What everyone says about their Gods!🤔

Zocalite:
Who's your God, definitely not Jesus Christ

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

Jesus is our brother himself and JWs are worshipers of the same God who is father of all faithful people!🙂

Guestmale:
Is Bishop Oyedepo those fellow pastors in the politics?

Are they all worshipers of the same God?🤔

Zocalite:
JehovahWitness another cult masking as followers of Christ
Kpele Pharisee
So you no go collect blood transfusion Abi
Kpele

I spoke for my own God but please talk about what yours said!🙂

Guestmale:
Did he say a certain pastor has been lobbying for vice president of Nigeria?

What happens to his fellow pastors who are into politics?
You people don't know your pastors!🙂

Guestmale:
Did he mention pastor Tunde Bakare?

Who is the pastor that's been lobbying for vise president in Nigeria?🤔

richmond500:
So
If I say skeleton in the closet, does it mean there is a skeleton?

So you actually mentioned something that doesn't exist and you want everyone to believe He doesn't exist yet you are thanking him.

No wonder you believe in evolution!

richmond500:
something that doesn't exists

So what do you mean when you say:
"Thank God "