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FreeIgboho:
He expects you to use spiritual discernment and your own God-given common sense!

Use it against what he declared openly shey?
Thank you!

FreeIgboho:
Nope, says the statement. We all know many people are good and Jesus is the epitome of GOOD indeed!

The highlighted is against Jesus' word so if you choose that as you own position i am no part of it!

FreeIgboho:
Please pity me, don't make me have to deal with infantile talk.
Whose fault is a baby-in-the-womb's attitude - the baby or his maker?

The baby's fault not it's maker!

Most people don't know the virtue that's in loyalty and decisiveness that is why God is telling indecisive people:

Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you INDECISIVE ones. James 4:8

Note that God is far away from indecisive people who can't take their stand firmly so that trait comes not from God but humans!

FreeIgboho:
I don't have to ask Jesus anything. As God he can see the heart of men. He could see what was in that man's heart and those standing around looking for a reason to arrest him.

Well he has answered for himself so from my end no addition no subtraction!

FreeIgboho:
So also "good" belongs to everyone who is good. But a certain kind of good only belongs to the Father

Says you not Jesus!

FreeIgboho:
The fault must be due to something Esau did before entering the belly.

NO!
It's about loyalty and from his attitude in the womb he is indecisive nothing evil other than God doesn't like indecisive people! James 4:8

AntiChristian:
This is false. And this is not the first time i am correcting you on this. Jesus was never asked about a model marriage nor did they notice he wasn't married! They asked him about "divorce" not "marriage".
Seems you talk from both sides of your mouth as it pleases you!
You insinuated below that God created one wife for the model man, Adam.
The you claim Adam is not the model man again but Jesus!
But in this discussion of marriage, Adam married one and Jesus didn't!

You always amuse me jọọ!

What leads to divorce if not hatred for the first woman?

And talking about the model man how many wives did your Muhammad have?

How many wives is Halal and what number becomes Haram?

Did muhammad treated all his wives equally?

You are really amusing me walahi talahi because i don't know how a woman of 65 can compete with a girl between the ages of 18-25 while both of them are seeking the heart of a man!

AntiChristian:
What are the criterias you are looking at?

In terms of properties acquired the first wife has enjoyed more!

In terms of days of Joy and pain with the husband the first holds sway!

In terms of recognision with the husband the first holds sway!

In terms of having say in some affairs in the family the first holds sway!

So tell me what criteria you are using to Judge?

AntiChristian:
The incoming wife can never enjoy as much as she had!

Are you sure of this?
Experience shows you're wrong!

AntiChristian:
Adam was married to one woman. That's not a fine example!
Jesus wasn't said to be married. And that's a fine example.
Go and wash your face!

Naaaaaaaaah!

Adam wasn't obedient like Jesus that's where he failed as an exemplar so when people noticed he wasn't married they asked him questions about a model marriage and he directed them to what God set in the beginning! Matthew 19:4

Ruke1990:
I understand your disdain for jesus is pushing you towards blasphemy. Thomas called Jesus "my God" in your very when Jesus appeared to him after resurrection. As a JW who goes about preaching everywhere, it is the command of jesus you are obeying by going to all the world to preach the Gospel. Listen, bible says whomsoever you obey, you are a servant of that person. For going about to preach you are ignorantly submitting to Jesus that you disdain. And by virtue of your submission to his command you are worshipping him. He is your lord if you obey him ignorantly, get that into your skull

This is what you supposed to know instead of spewing gibberish about what we say about our God.
Jesus is our Master, Lord and King but he is not our God.
Get that straight!

There are many spirits out there bearing Jesus that's why the real Jesus said he will deny you if you are worshiping demons bearing his name because by so doing you and your fellow worshipers will fail to do God's will which the real Jesus taught! Matthew 7:21-23

So i'm not a worshiper of your fake Jesus who is incapable of organizing it's worshipers! John 17:22

Ruke1990:
This one cannot be a worshipper of jesus. It takes free will to accept Jesus as our lord and saviour (John 3:16). It takes freewill to believe in him.

However, this guy believes he is a preprogrammed robot, incapable of taking personal decisions and not liable for his wrong actions. He is an escapist trying to avoid the reality of the fact that he could be one day accountable to his maker. So he prefers to blame his maker for his personal failure by subscribing to his kind of believe. I know he read it from some American preacher and fell for it. I personally know the preacher he got that from. He is called Harold Camping, a US based radio evangelist of heretic gospel- the founder of family radio international.

Kayberg:
Says who you? Like I didn't read it before.
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You will never welcome, bla bla bla.
What will you even do about it?

That's why women are fighting for their rights to marry more than one man if they are equally rich to do so, for your information it's called polyandry and it is practiced around the world and there is nothing you can do about it!

FreeIgboho:
Hence I asked you, is Jesus good? You never answered. Jesus is obviously good. The "good" here is an attribute thst only the Father has

You should ask Jesus himself because he has mouth to speak for himself so don't expect me to contradict what he himself has said about himself and others, this is Jesus speaking:

“Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God" Luke 18:19

What you supposed to ask is why Jesus Jesus questioned the man for addressing him as "GOOD" not trying to contradict what Jesus said himself!

FreeIgboho:
What do u mean? It's just to illustrate that a word does not mean same in every circumstance

Discernment belongs to everyone who is wise God did not say humans don't have the spirit of discernment that's what i mean!

FreeIgboho:
@bolded, you just admitted you don't have free will, then tried to talk yourself out of it!😅

Loyalty has nothing to do with freewill it's just the nature of some humans to be loyal but where freewill comes in is whether such a person will be loyal to God or Evil for me i chose to be loyal to God!

FreeIgboho:
As for Esau, when/how was it determined he'd not be loyal to the spiritual heritage? Not from anything he did in this life!

Esau was seen from his mother's womb to be a disloyal child that's why God said He hates him but love Jacob and their life shows that only Jacob was loyal to the family's spiritual heritage!

Kayberg:
And how did what you quote rhyme with what you claimed?
You think this is how the world works?
Your sister? Mum? Daughter?
Why not say about the real deal that your sister, mom, daughter should get stoned to death if they ever get deflowered in fornication before getting married? Now that is the real law and prophets, not about a man having more than one wife. You need Biblical passages that supports this? Let me know.

I won't be as hypocritical as you are.

The highlighted shows you don't know God's law, it's both male and the female that must be stoned to death for fornication not just the female because she can't commit it alone.

So if my sister or mother or daughter commits fornication let herself and her cohort be judged by God's law.

But for anyone to marry another woman after my sister, mother or daughter i will never welcome because i also can't do it for someone's daughter, sister or mother!

Nnamdipapa:
A book written by illiterate goat herders in the middle ages, recycled by Europeans for domination and mind control?

If a white man comes to your own place, stole some of the items in your ancestral shrine and began using it for his selfish ambitions does that makes your heritage evil or does that makes your ancestors unworthy to emulate?

Come on my guy, the Bible doesn't belong to Europeans neither are those of ancient times unworthy to emulate for wisdom!

FreeIgboho:
If I said only God has discernment, you'd be a total fool to not know that discernment is not "discernment" as used here. (I'm not saying you and LordReed are TOTAL FOOLS indeed!!!)

Highlighted is your own word not Jesus' words so no one will drag that with you!

But outrightly contradicting Jesus is your problem now!

Ken4Christ:
Your mouth has testified against you. You reject Jesus as God and refuse to worship him. It shows that you don't belong to Christ.

I surely reject your own Jesus that's not able to unite it's worshipers my own Jesus prayed to his father for all his disciples to have the same line of thought! John 17:22

No wonder he said he will deny knowing you people because you are strangers to his teachings and policies! Matthew 7:21-23

Nnamdipapa:
Are you kidding me? There are thousands of contradictions in the Bible.

That's because you only READ not STUDY the book, there is no contradiction!

FreeIgboho:
Many people are good, not just Jesus, but only the Father is "good"

“Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God." Luke 18:19

So Jesus lied shey?

FreeIgboho:
See convoluted reasoning. If everyone always have anything he needs there also would be no robberies. So why don't you live on that basis and start hanging out at dangerous places at night. You live according to the world you have, NOT according to the world of "if"!

Jesus taught his own disciples to be contented with whatever they have {Matthew 6:19-21} so if everyone is a disciple of Christ Jesus just like Jehovah's Witnesses the world will be safe for us all.

Do you understand now?

FreeIgboho:
My friend Jesus is obviously good, very good indeed. But only the Father is "good" (as meant here)

OK you should have put it like this:

Jesus is GOOD but only the father is GOODER!

FreeIgboho:
What has JW ever invented or achieved? All they do is smugly enjoy the inventions and peace procured by others' sweat and lives while pontificating and criticizing. All these apps and peace you're smugly enjoying, can you please tell us ANY that JW invented, and also tell us HOW they wouldn't all be dead or Muslims right now, but for the blood and tears of those they criticize!

At least if everyone is a JW the world will be a place where nobody will have to raise weapons against his fellow in the name of politics and racism! Isaiah 2:2-4
We are the one and only group WITNESSING the Prince of Peace on this planet! Act 1:8

Kayberg:
No be fight, yes.
But who do you think you are to condemn what GOD did not condemn?

My own God condemned polygamy that is why i quoted His son:

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean" Matthew 7:12

If i don't want any rival, don't want for my mum, don't want for my sister, don't want for my daughter then i must not think of raising a rival to another person's daughter, sister and mother.

It's as simple as that!

FreeIgboho:
See below

Says your fellow TRINITY worshipers who are not united in doing anything tangible with their I AM!

FreeIgboho:
Where do you get all these from? There is only one "I AM", words Jews never use because they consider it the name of God (not Gods).
At least you'd no longer argue that Jesus never meant to say he was God. Because here he's NOT denying he said it, only that it can also apply to ordinary men.
Where are the other Sons?? There is no one like Jesus in the whole of human history.

Your people in Trinity fabricated "I AM" to promote their Trinity in my own Bible there is nothing like I AM!

AntiChristian:
If Adam is the model man then Jesus need come to do anything!

Adam did not set fine example that's why Jesus replaced him! 1Corinthans 15:45

Kayberg:
Tell me which any time GOD reproved any of those in the Bible for marrying more than one wife, or call it adultery on them. GOD spoke openly to David after he took Bathsheba that if he had wanted more, He (GOD) would have given him more instead of him taking what belongs to another man. So, your opinion is very much useless here my friend. If GOD does not condemn it, who are you?

Guy no be fight o!
If you choose to marry ten wives go ahead nobody will stop you after all you will bear your own load all by yourself!

AntiChristian:
Allah did send a revelation that forbid alcohol in the Qur'an.
Of course Allah created only Adam. And from him he created his wife. And from them both all men exist. Same God in your Bible that gave Adam one wife gave others more wives!
I thought they say God of the Bible Jehovah is not the author of confusion!
Why would He give laws for what He hates?

Confusion is when people choose to do things their own way when they have not learned from experience what is evil in such actions.
So God decided to allow them learn and today i'm sure that you too will never ever agree that your dad should marry a younger woman after your mum have suffered to build a business empire with him something that supposed to be your inheritance!

AntiChristian:
Since the Bible God belongs only to Israel then he should not include others. Others don't want a discriminatory God!
The question asked was in whose name did Jesus prayed on earth?
Who did he pray to?

Tell your Allah that there's no reason for those worshiping to call for prayer only in Arabic once that is done then we can question the Bible God.

Jesus is the spiritual temple we enter to worship the God of Israel that's why we must pray in his name!