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See the sect of dishonest people that are preaching trinity. Always looking for a way to fool me with words as they do with trinity. I said it right from the beginning that they are doing the work of satan the father of li.es and antichrist.

1. I never asked him if my scripture are correct.
2. I never asked him anything about my interpretation.
See screenshots

I was patient to ask him the question a second time, pointing out what I needed him to answer, so it will become very obvious that he is deceitful.

Someone who cannot understand a simple question has no business teaching things from the bible.

The antichrist is at work in then. Doing everything possible with li,es to stand against the only true God and our Lord Jesus Christ.

John 8:44 NIV
[44] You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Please i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

This arguments is none of my business the only key that disproves TRINITY is in that group name: Jehovah's Witnesses.

Jesus said:

“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men" Matthew 7:15-20

Let Trinitarians organize themselves and prove they truly know Jesus and his father {John 17:3} after all Jesus prayed for his true disciples to be united in faith {John 17:22} and for the world of unbelievers to observe the love that permeates their assembly. John 13:34-35

Jesus' real disciples will have fine works {James 2:18-26} that the world of unbelievers will notice globally {Matthew 5:14-16} as they use the word of their God to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, erase the making, buying, selling and using of weapons in the hearts of all adherents of the word of their God, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} with this they have proved beyond reasonable doubt that they are true witnesses of the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6 compare to Act 1:8

Anything aside that is worthless, useless and aimless arguments! 2Timothy 2:23; Titus 3:9

Thanks, God bless you and may you have peace!

GothamCities:
Show me where that scripture says 'I have a begining'! He said 'I am the begining...'!

The beginning and end of what exactly? Revelations 21:6; 22:13

GothamCities:
Hahaha!
Chai! Olaadegbu, how are you coping with these sets of people?
Someone said "I am the First and the Last..", Maxindhouse changed His statement to "I see the begining of evil and the end of evil." What type of devilry is this!
How is 'I am the first and the last' the same as , 'I see the begining and the end of evil'? All you devils will certainly have your days in hell except you repent! May the judgement of God fall on the stony heads of you deceivers!

Did God have a beginning?

Riches are things of the mind some people are rich as in wealthy but they don't trust in riches but many are poor yet they believe so much in riches.

Therefore Jesus wasn't talking about rich people per say rather he meant people who believe in riches or determined to be rich! 1Timothy 6:6-10

Because there are many rich people who have stored their riches in heaven! Matthew 6:19-21

FreeIgboho:
MaxIndhouse, you and your buddy, as you can see from screenshots above, you can’t know better than some 300 bishops who spent their whole lives going through the Bible with a fine tooth comb!❣️

It's like my name has been registered in your brain.
Ọmọ that's why many on this forum can't forget that name:
"Maxindhouse"
After an encounter with me they'll keep on seeking to discuss with me but once i discover dishonesty in their attempts that's the end.
So go and worship whatever you know in the name that pleases you we are the worshipers of JEHOVAH!

Chibuezem:
yh as usual you won't accept Revelation even from God himself. It's all good, if it's his will for you to know, you will sabi.

I have known the truth that's why i'm asking you to quote the word TRINITY before anything further!

GREATER WORKS is what Jesus said his disciples will do so if you can't find such then you have misapplied the scriptures period.
Meanwhile my own religion has done lots of greater works than Jesus did!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

Jesus only preached within the land of Israel but his disciples will reach lands that Jesus never stepped his foot during his ministry.

Jesus only preached in his mother tongue but his disciples will preach in all the languages of the earth.

Jesus only faced opposition in Israel but his disciples will be persecuted throughout the earth.

Jesus only gathered 500 people after his three years ministry his disciples will gather millions.

Jesus only preached for three years but many of his disciples will preach and teach for decades.

Jesus couldn't form a global family of peace loving worshipers despite all his preaching and teaching even on the very day he died his close confidant still used weapon on opposition but his disciples will erase the use of weapons in the hearts of millions across the earth.

These are works Jehovah's Witnesses have done today that's GREATER than what Jesus did!

GothamCities:
My dear, I believe you can read and write English. If you really do, go and sit down to this discussion and see how disjointed to the discussion your request is. Jesus said you would do greater works. If you're not doing greater works, it's either because you're ignorant or you're not a true follower of Jesus. Not because Jesus lied. As I said earlier, I mentioned you for your education and not for argument. So, have a nice day.

Jesus said:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

Jesus only preached within the land of Israel but his disciples will reach lands that Jesus never stepped his foot during his ministry.

Jesus only preached in his mother tongue but his disciples will preach in all the languages of the earth.

Jesus only faced opposition in Israel but his disciples will be persecuted throughout the earth.

Jesus only gathered 500 people after his three years ministry his disciples will gather millions.

Jesus only preached for three years but many of his disciples will preach and teach for decades.

Jesus couldn't form a global family of peace loving worshipers despite all his preaching and teaching even on the very day he died his close confidant still used weapon on opposition but his disciples will erase the use of weapons in the hearts of millions across the earth.

These are works Jehovah's Witnesses have done today that's GREATER than what Jesus did!

Was Jesus lying?

If not then mention the name of a human who has done more than what Jesus did period!

GothamCities:
Guy, Jesus didn't say your religion will do greater works. Please be informed. Jesus said 'you' will do greater works. Not your religion. If you don't understand what I mean, take the book 'God's Generals' and read. Maybe you'll understand. Or wait for a time when I shall free up my table to start showing greater works to atheists by visiting their homes and having encounters streamed and posted to Nairaland. Perhaps you would understand.

Jesus described the signs that'll follow those who believe. To the best of my knowledge, the signs are not following you, neither are they following your so called religion.

Here's how Paul said he'll identify true believers in 1 Corinthians 4:19:

"But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord is willing, and then I will find out not only what these arrogant people are saying, but what power they have."

And here's how Peter described Jesus' works in Acts 10:38:

"And you know that God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. Then Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him."

But if you still don't understand it, don't bother. I am only here to educate you, not to argue with you. You might understand some day if you open your heart to the true Jesus.

GothamCities:
Did Jesus say you should go and look for individuals, or He said you should do greater works?

Guy i don't want useless arguments.

My religion has done GREATER WORKS than Jesus did but if you feel that's not what Jesus meant then present or mention any individual who has done it.

Perhaps you think Jesus lied if you can't point to any individual who has done that!

GothamCities:
Jesus didn't say your religion will do something please. He spoke to you as an individual. Not as a religion.

Oya mention any individual in the history of mankind that has done works GREATER than what Jesus did!

GothamCities:
I don't answer irrelevant questions.
There's no human being who I can set as my yardstick above what Jesus said I should do or not do. Whether anyone did it or not is not my problem. Jesus didn't ask me to look for any man who has done what He said I should do before I do it.

So you don't understand what Jesus said, it's about GREATER WORKS than he did.

That's exactly what my own religion has done and we keep doing greater works than what Jesus did till date!

GothamCities:
Are you concerned about what any man has done or has not done? Should you not be concerned rather about what Jesus said you would do?

Answer the question:

What GREATER WORKS has any human or group of humans did than that which Jesus did?

GothamCities:
The same great works Her did. He said "Greater works than I did .."

So what works did Jesus do that anyone in the history of mankind has done greater?

GothamCities:
Is there power in your religion? Christianity without power is not Christianity. If that's your brand of Christianity, then I'm afraid, you've been sold a fake Jesus.

"For the Kingdom of God is not by word but by power." 1 Corinthians 4:20.

And this Kingdom of God is within every believer (Luke 17:21). By it, we command the 'Greater Works Jesus talked about.'

What is the great works Jesus talked about?

Chibuezem:
you didn't answer my question Sir.

I've answered you!
If you can't find the word "TRINITY" in the Bible whatever you are trying to do is mental gymnastics which Jesus himself and the scriptures has proved wrong.

TRINITY means Coequal Jesus proved he is not equal with his father.
TRINITY means Coeternal and Jesus died so he wasn't eternal God raised him from the dead.

Whatever you cook up after this means nothing but cherry picking phrases just to suit the pagan tradition of TRINITY!

He was a great man who tried all he could to help just like thousands of his colleagues in different countries around the world what they all lack is knowledge about the one who is in control of the world's politics:



I will not say much more to you, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold over me. John 14:30 NIV

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. ‭2 Corinthians 4:4 NIV‬

We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. ‭1John 5:19 NIV‬


Satan introduced politics so he is the master of the game and no faithful person can thread that part without getting stained. Revelations 14:5


Paul summarized politics in this verses:



The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. ‭Galatians 5:19-23 NIV‬


You must condone all the works of flesh as listed in verses 19-21 if you want to play politics because it's these same people that will join hands to put you on the seat so you need their friendship! James 4:4


But on the other hand whoever wants to maintain and sustain a relationship with God must promote the nine qualities Paul mentioned in verses 22-23 and frown at dirty habits which God hates {Psalms 97:10} because there is no law that could be set against those practicing these things.


This is the secret why Jesus refused to welcome democracy government of the people by the people and for the people! John 6:15


May you have Peace!

Chibuezem:
A very important question I would love you to answer is if You were to see evidence of trinity in the scripture and God were to also reveal it to you would you accept it?

I have told you that there are many as in thousands of different pagan traditions that could be linked to the Bible the truth is such pagan traditions are not mentioned.
So to convince me just quote the word "TRINITY" in God's word otherwise it's all the same thing Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Traditionalists and more are doing cherry picking phrases to support their religion in God's word!

This one doesn't know what to quote as scripture all he does is emojis here and there as if that's the authority in God's word!

Gabrielshow24:
Your "Exact word" fallacy fails miserably. I have highlighted this in my previous response. You continue to commit the same fallacy by peddling a doctrine 😂 "Jesus is Michael", when there's no such occurrence in the bible!

Trinity by the way, is the term given by christians to best explain the concept found in the bible! —The Father, the Son and Holy Spirit!

Concepts of these three is littered in the whole scripture hence denying the existence of such a concept on the basis on the "educational term", trinity, not being found within the bible is really😂😂😂 "d.**b"!

It's like saying because "Fibonacci" as a term is not found in the universe that Fibonacci series is false! See the wisdom of Arianism 😂😂😂!

Chibuezem:
Great observation! However, the existence of counterfeits or copies doesn't negate the authenticity of the original. Just as fake Bobo juice doesn't disprove the existence of the real thing, Mbanu! Let's explore the Trinity concept. In Christianity, the Trinity doctrine describes one God in three distinct, coequal, and coeternal persons: God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Key aspects:

1. Monotheism: Christianity affirms one God, rejecting polytheism.
2. Three persons: The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct yet inseparable.
3. Coequal and coeternal: Each person shares the same divine nature, attributes, and eternity.

Biblical foundations:

1. Matthew 28:19: Jesus commands baptism "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit."
2. John 1:1-14: Jesus is described as the Word, distinct from yet one with God.

The highlighted is the pagan tradition i'm talking about, note that God never said there is three persons in one God rather what the scriptures say is:



Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. ‭Deuteronomy 6:4 NIV‬


Jesus never claim to be equal with his father:

"Father is greater than I am" John 14:28

Equality means both of them stands in the same position so none is indebted to the other but in this case Jesus relies on his father for survival:

“Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit.” Luke 23:46

Jesus cried while begging his father to save him:

During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Hebrews 5:7 compare to Luke 22:44

The eternal are persons who can't die but in this case Jesus died only to be raised by his father:

Whereas you killed the Chief Agent of life. But God raised him up from the dead, of which fact we are witnesses. Act 3:15

The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, whom you killed, hanging him on a stake. Act 5:30

For if you publicly declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9

With these the old pagan TRINITY tradition is EXPOSED!

Christianity has nothing to say or do with other religions so true Christians don't preach against other religions it's our teachings that exposes falsehood and since false religions was built on the learner in Christianity will discern that we are not on the same page with other religions but speaking against them in the public is totally unchristian because there is freedom of speech, expression and worship.
As Christians our speech publicly should not be offensive {Matthew 10:16} there is nothing that could make any religion attack true Christians because we have nothing against worshipers of other religions and we don't go about condemning them for their beliefs it's only interested persons who gives us their times to study with us that can see the difference not everyone since we don't shout in their streets! Matthew 12:19

rottennaija:
They are only forcing trinity over your head?

Do you think over people's comments before quoting them?

The OP mentioned my name and i replied telling him what could make me participate in the discussion.
So how does that translate to what you are saying now?

Well if you don't understand idioms what i meant is this is none of my business until someone quote TRINITY in God's word!

Banned again!
When you don't know what to say about a topic or apply the scriptures to back your comments the next thing is throwing insults here and there with emojis.
What a pity!

Nah emoji be Bible for this one instead of quoting God's word to back what he's typing!

Gabrielshow24:
If you were to ask this person how his Michael turned to Jesus? He will say "he put on flesh" !

Emphasis on flesh, thus his Michael, the conqueror, was limited by flesh😂. His Michael that threw Satan from Heaven now turned the left cheek on Earth👀, presumably due to flesh —Do you see where I am going with this? Even he agrees that his Michael was limited by flesh, or the physical model and standard yet it didn't affect his status as the chief prince😂😂😂 or the Archangel 😂.

Thus in this write-up is the answer to all his questions 🤣, something he has agreed to in times past about his beloved Michael, the conqueror! 👀

Some people just don't think before positing!

Boomark:
That guy doesn't have anything to offer. From the way he presented what he said, he sounds like, I don't care about whatever the word of God says.
They have rejected the words of Jesus Christ they think they are defending. Christ will tell those who rejected him and his words to depart from him. He will call them lawbreakers. Matthew 7:21-23.
Please all these people that I tagged, you know most of them, are they no longer on nairaland or are they still looking for what to say?

When they don't know what to say about the topic of discussion most of them just ignore the thread as for me i speak for Jehovah's Witnesses that's the only group i know that's practicing what Jesus taught so it's not a matter of crowd support when they are not in agreement regarding teaching and doctrine!

Firstorderwizard:
Back in the days, not attending church for just 1 sunday in a month makes one feel so guilty and incomplete but nowadays, one can stay months without attending church or any church program.
It is even getting more worst as one gets more learned and exposed.
Can I maintain my relationship with God without attending church on Sundays?
Could this affect my faith?if yes, how can I rekindle my zeal for attending church on Sundays?

Jesus said:

"Then, too, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. But the one who has endured to the end will be saved" Matthew 24:10-13

Paul said:

Let us hold firmly the public declaration of our hope without wavering, for the one who promised is faithful.  And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near. Hebrews 10:23-25

Certainly Jesus knew that many will get tired of associating with his disciples due to the confusion Satan will create but are you ready to endure being a Christian to the end?

Well your salvation is tied to the church because that's the only gathering where you can be strengthened to continue the journey to everlasting life!

Both heaven and hell are real!

Heaven is the spirit realm where God and His spirit sons dwell.

Hell is the common grave where all dead creatures are resting.

Chibuezem:
there is no mention of the word trinity in the Bible but there are examples of it in the Bible from old testament to new testament

There are examples of everything you can think of in the Bible that's why you're seeing thousands of different sects all claiming believers in the Bible yet they are contradicting themselves in teachings and having conflicting doctrines.
So if the Bible never mention TRINITY but people thought it's OK to interpret it as such then you can't blame Muslims, Traditionalists, Buddhists, Hindus and others claiming their beliefs is rooted in the Bible because they all have one thing or another to point out as having to do with their beliefs in the Bible.
For your information TRINITY is a pagan god in ancient Egypt and according to it's adherents the three gods are coeternal and coequal!

What is the purpose of meeting together in Christianity?

If you don't know then you have no idea what membership means so there's no need assembling with anybody but when you already know the importance of meeting together as a body and you decides to pull away then you will have to face the Lord himself who formed the group and commissioned them to keep on WORKING together as a group!

Linaloca7:
You are so right!! Jesus is God and God alone!! Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!!

Who was Jesus praying to? Matthew 11:25

Why was he crying with tears in prayer? Hebrews 5:7 compare to Luke 22:44; 23:46

Why does the father's will differ to Jesus' will? Luke 22:42

How come Jesus didn't know something that only the father knows? Matthew 24:36

You may wish to do some gymnastics on the matter but it's clear that there is someone greater than Jesus so Jesus can't be the Almighty! 1Corinthans 15:27-28

SIRTee15:
I would have loved to expose U further but they have advised me to leave U alone.

BUT WITH THE EVIDENCE I BROUGHT HERE, IT'S SO OBVIOUS THE GOSPEL BOOKS ARE NOT CONTINGENT ON PAUL'S LETTERS
I sincerely hope u seek the Truth u looking for.... Bye

The truth is we have all heard a lot but then if we want to share whatever we heard then it's wise to listen and reason with others not just trying to force what we heard on them as if they aren't doing anything to be sure of their beliefs.
The guy got informations that's biased and he feels he's gotten it all.
He believes Jesus didn't write anything down which is true but then Jeremiah has prophesied that God will establish another covenant with the house of Jacob and this covenant will come with laws WRITTEN in their hearts! Jeremiah 31:33
So how else can such be fulfilled if not by teaching them with examples? Instead of writing lengthy rules Jesus lived by his own laws and all his disciples got the sense of what he wanted to teach them through his thoughts words and actions.
But our friend just doesn't want to hear anything contrary to what he's been told it's like he's saying:
"trash everything you believe i have known it's source and they are all lies"

But even at that any reasonable person will calmly reason with others to know why they stick to their beliefs!

Jesus is Lord!