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Gabrielshow24:
Thus, while yet being a valid logical question. It fails miserably! If indeed, you wanted to test your brain cells you should have answered the question I posed to you: "who baked the baker?"🤨

See the manner you are responding to a person asking thought provoking questions!

No wonder you always get angry when i quote what these people say after i have a discussion with them on this forum:

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

God's word says:


Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone. ‭Colossians 4:6 NIV‬

Well if you don't have the Holy Spirit how can you have self control over your emotions to the point of catching men alive just as Jesus taught us? Mark 1:17

You are insulting them yet you want them to accept your god!

Kayberg:
I got attacked for pointing it out to some so called Bible scholars… they still argued it.

You don't just read the Bible you need to study it.

How many wives did God create for the model man?
Do you think any man has the strength to satisfy a woman sexually like Adam?
Do you think any man is intelligent to care for a woman like Adam?
Do you think any man is as rich as Adam?
So if Adam has everything no other man has yet God gave Adam just one wife do you think having more than one wife is ideal for imperfect men who has nothing when compared to Adam?

Well God should have ended Adam, Eve and Satan immediately after their evil act but He permitted them and their descendants for thousands of years so we can all learn through our actions and inactions.

From what we all know no woman can be happy to share her man with another woman just as no man can be happy to share his wife with another man.

Therefore whatever you want men to do to you please do the same to them that's what the Bible and all the prophets in it is all about! Matthew 7:12

Gabrielshow24:
You will do better selling mango than deceiving anyone with this!

I have many Bible students in my neighbourhood longing to see me knock on their door for a Bible study with me.

But that's audio because you can't see them here yet there is evidence on this very forum:

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

Go and convince all these people that Max shouldn't be discussing God's word!

AntiChristian:
Did Jesus prayed in his own name?
And why did Jesus gave the people the "Lord's prayer" and not "Jesus's prayer"?

The Bible God said He belongs only to the nation of Israel even though He's the Creator of all {Exodus 19:5} so that's why He always back the nation of Israel against any other nation because they have His laws with them but when He decided to accept people of other nations He used Jesus Christ as a bridge to connect people of the nations so they don't need the constitution He established for the nation of Israel otherwise they will all have to live in that place but since people in other lands have their human rulers and laws God welcome them as His worshipers through the teachings of Jesus Christ therefore for anyone under that covenant to pray to the God of Israel such a person doesn't need to approach Him through the old temple in Jerusalem rather all you have to do is approach Him in the name of Jesus Christ anywhere you may be! John 4:20-24

That's why we must pray in the name of Christ Jesus and don't need to be in the temple in Jerusalem anymore!

AntiChristian:
Your premise is faulty! You can quote verses where Allah permitted alcohol in the Qur'an and where it was later forbidden by Allah himself.

You can similar quote where your Jehovah permitted polygamy many times in the Bible but never for once can you see anywhere Jehovah himself forbid polygamy!

Did Allah sent a message through your prophet that alcohol will no longer be permitted by adherents of Islam?

How many wives did Jehovah gave Adam the model man?

Guy, this is not just about sticking to an old tradition rather it's what will promote peace, harmony and lots of benefits among worshipers so asking for what to read when you are seeing the truth face to face makes your god false because if what you are reading is not beneficial then your god is worthless!

Principle is what we need to understand not just written code that's not beneficial!

Nnamdipapa:
I read the book for 20 years and a good student of church history.

The highlighted says it all!

You are a GOOD STUDENT of church history not a student of the Bible.

To illustrate think of someone who goes to a restaurant always to observe how the chef prepare meals, he looks at the way the chef cuts the meat and other ingredients and the way he cooks the meals but never sat down to eat the meal. Then while some customers are discussing about how they enjoy the meals he said:

"There is nothing special in these meals"

Do you think he has any point?

YES!
Just as Allah ALLOWED his worshipers to drink alcoholic beverages until they abused it and then made it haram for them.
JEHOVAH allowed people to experience the evil consequences of polygamy since they don't know why He created just one woman for one man and vice versa!

Marrying another wife may seem OK to you but no child will be happy if his or her father decides to marry a second (younger) wife. No father will be happy if his son in-law decides to marry another wife with his daughter. No woman will be happy if her husband decides to take in another wife. No man will be happy if his brother in-law decides to marry another woman along with his sister.

So in Paradise where God promised that there won't be any reason to be sad polygamy can't work.

In this system of things people grow old, get sick and die that's why those in Bible times had two or more wives but in the coming system we will live forever as youths in fact no one will like to bear children like people does today because the couple will love to enjoy themselves for thousands of years before thinking of having a child after all they will continue to be strong and agile always so they don't need a child for any reason whatsoever but since God wants them to increase they will have one or two.

Now imagine two lovebirds enjoying the cool breeze on the beach, how do you expect such atmosphere to be if the lady has someone to share her man with her?

Well KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information but WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated info for lasting benefits.
That's the difference between Jehovah the Bible God and your Quran Allah!

FreeIgboho:
I answer you with a question, was he lying when he said he and the Father are one, and when you see him you've seen the Father?

And is he lying here?

John 10
33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[d]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” 39 Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.

The highlighted proves that Jesus existed in heaven before his earthly life as one of the spirit sons of God under the control of God in heaven these ones are also Gods because they can't grow old or die that's exactly what the Jews are saying if Jesus claim to exist before Abraham then he must be one of those Gods! Psalms 82:1, 6

Those rebellious Jews actually wanted him killed but Jesus' statement here shows his origin as one of those called Gods (angels)

Nnamdipapa:
I do not agree with the Bible which was written by men with limited knowledge. I also do no think the Bible is relevant in 2025 as it is riddled by inconsistencies and have been recycled countless times. This is not a direct attack on Christianity from me as I have the same opinion about organized religion.

The highlighted shows you have a lot in your mind about the book but it's really hard to convince people against a book that's loved by billions around you.
Well i totally agree with the Bible and i'm convinced that the writers are not the Author rather a person with infinite knowledge and wisdom orchestrated the writing of that book!

Knowledge that lives to everlasting life!

Nnamdipapa:
Did Jesus die for our sins?

The Bible said he did!

But how can a man die for the sin of the whole world?
What effect did his death have on people globally?
Where is the benefit of his death if we are to be fully convinced?

These are the questions we need to find answers to because billions out there already believe Jesus died for their sin!

FreeIgboho:
See blatant dishonesty. People call people good all the time including you, and no one complains

I told you already that you are free to call anyone good but what my teacher taught me is that nobody is good except JEHOVAH! Luke 18:19

FreeIgboho:
You just think life starts here

Ọmọ human life starts with Adam and Eve before Adam and Eve there was no human or life existing in any form that later became Adam.

That's what the Bible teaches!

FreeIgboho:
So you think Abraham was happenstance? God just happened to pick him??

According to God's word people were picked due to their find qualities:

And Jehovah said to Satan: “Have you taken note of my servant Job? There is no one like him on the earth. He is an upright man of integrity, fearing God and shunning what is bad.” Job 1:8

In line with the above Peter a born again Christian in the first century said:

“Now I truly understand that God is not partial, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him". Act 10:34-35

So Mr I AM worshiper JEHOVAH our own God is not partial anyone who is upright is acceptable to Him!

FreeIgboho:
Just trying to show you that salvation is mainly a gift, and that your "works" can't come close to saving you

Incoherent verses after showing you what God's only begotten Son himself said:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will" Matthew 7:21

Paul said:

Pay constant attention to yourself and to your teaching. Persevere in these things, for by doing this you will save both yourself and those who listen to you. 1Timothy 4:16


James said:

Indeed, just as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead. James 2:16

Guy me i no be I AM worshiper that will say "bless you" when you say rubbish o!

FreeIgboho:
So if you tell your teacher he is good he'll correct you that only God is good??!

Why saying such nonsense to when i know only God is good?

FreeIgboho:
Answer the question. Do you believe God is confined to heaven?

Let the scriptures answer your question!

Hear the supplications of your servant and of your people Israel when they pray toward this place. Hear from heaven, your dwelling place; and when you hear, forgive. ‭2 Chronicles 6:21 NIV‬


God also told Abraham:

‭Genesis 18:20 NIV‬

Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous‭ that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.” Genesis 18:20-21


According to the two verses where is the Bible God stationed?

FreeIgboho:
God knew everything about him and what he'd do before he was born

Says you!

FreeIgboho:
God knew Abraham at the end of his life before he had lived that life

What is the meaning of this?

FreeIgboho:
Go read again. They're predestined and nothing they do can change it

You're just trolling jọ̀ọ́ you know nothing about God's word!

FreeIgboho:
Here's Acts:
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Combine it with Isaiah:
6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags

You getting the picture?

Irrelevant quotations.

Please what correlation has these got to do with predestination that you want to teach?

FreeIgboho:
Very Good answer. Some people know everything

If you honestly believe nobody knows everything then you shouldn't be arguing over doctrines nah!

At least you should agree that every wind of teaching or doctrine could be right!

FreeIgboho:
My good friend use your common sense sometimes.
Don't people call people good all the time?
If I say "You're a good man" do you correct me that only God is good?
There's an obvious reason Jesus said that

Jesus is their TEACHER i'm not your own teacher so you can say whatever you like!

Ruke1990:
If your girlfriend tears your university certificate now then you have no right to be mad at her because it was your destiny to have it torn.

He's one of your Jesus worshipers!

FreeIgboho:
Ok, you don't believe God is everywhere. He is confined to heaven like a man. Do you also believe he only can listen to one prayer at a time like a man?

You just keep wrapping up many things instead of simply admitting you goofed!

FreeIgboho:
You don't cherrypick the Bible and you don't read verses in isolation!
Combine all that with Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee"
And
Ephesians 1:4, "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world"
So before choosing him, Jesus knew Judas was evil. God/Jesus knew us before our mothers gave birth to us, even before the world began!

God knew Jeremiah will do what?

You just keep complicating issues for yourself!

You people just love deceiving yourselves!

Your fellow Jesus worshiper is arguing with you day and night over doctrines, you people can't worship in the same place and when politics or racism calls you people kill yourselves mercilessly yet you keep thinking about Jehovah's Witnesses who are solidly united in faith! John 17:22

Ruke1990:
From what Jesus said in John 3:16, salvation comes by believing in him. He also said I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except by me. The book of acts says, There is no other name in heaven given amongst men by which you can be saved (except the name of Jesus). So it is important you not just to know about Jesus but to know and believe the right things.

All false religions In the world have no problem believing in jesus. They only have a problem believing his divinity (that he exists in the form of God). Take budhists, JW and Muslims as examples:

Muslims believe in jesus. But what do they really believe? That he is not God, that he is a mere prophet, that he didn't die on the cross but he was exchanged by God with someone else who died. They believe salvation doesn't come through Jesus but by someone else - and that's Mohammad. They do not believe what Jesus said about himself. They do not believe he is the way, the truth and the life. They do not believe no one comes to the father through alternative ways such as Mohamed

JW believes in Jesus. But what do they believe? That he is same person as Moses and angel Michael. That he doesn't exist in the God form, that he didn't create all things - but rather he was created (no bible passage says he was created). JW do not believe that the person who sits on a second throne directly positioned at the right hand of the father is equally God and is worshipped. They do not believe that the person who will judge the sinners in the whole world at the end of the age is God. Despite Jesus saying with his mouth that in the glory of the father, he will judge the world.

So these people by their believes disagree with Jesus but verbally professional to believe in jesus. By trying to teach them the truth about Christ, we are trying to cure them of grand delusion. You cannot rightly claim to believe what you are always arguing against. That's what we call delusion

FreeIgboho:
You are also an I AM worshiper. Except that in your case you convoluted "I AM" (YHWH) into "Jehovah", a mistake made by some ignorant folks in Mediaval times, that you have perpetuated till today!

God forbid that i worship your hopeless I AM our own God is JEHOVAH that's why we are ONE in thought with Jesus and his father! John 17:22

FreeIgboho:
So you really don't believe God knew what Abraham would do??!! Wow!!
Even a common psychic would tell you "I see God giving Abraham a ram so he won't kill his son"

You just love deceiving yourself when the scriptures is totally against what you are saying!

FreeIgboho:
So what do you call the 144000 guaranteed to be saved in Rev 7?

They were supposed to rule with Christ as his corulers in Jerusalem {Isaiah 9:6-7} but Jerusalem was profaned by Jews {Matthew 23:37-38} that's why the invitation was blown open for others nationalities {Matthew 22:3-14} and the central unit of control of God's Kingdom was taken to another destination! John 14:1-3

FreeIgboho:
Jesus was constantly trying to prevent them from killing him before the appointed time.

So you mean Jesus lied so that you are the one saying the truth now shey?