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Newborn27:
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Like, listen to my teaching and not emulate my lifestyle. I wept bitterly and had sleepless nights over this topic cos, in all sincerity, I dread single parenting a lot and that was what made me endured the relationship hoping things would get better. I pray God Almighty see my heart and make a way for me...I love my department, especially the Sunday school and interpretation.

It's OK!
God can read through your heart but man can't so don't think that spiritual leader hate you giving you such a privilege is somehow detrimental to the spiritual health of the church as i have explained to you.

QuinQ:
Of course you should love everyone because every human being is your brother.
But I'm just focusing on the parable...
After Jesus finished the parable of the good Samaritan and asked them who was the robbed man's neighbor, they didn't answer "everyone"

See another blunder again!

Guy, everyone is not my BROTHER rather everyone is my NEIGHBOR.

I told you people to humbly learn from Jehovah's Witnesses but empty pride won't allow you.

Jesus clearly distinguish between the two. All living humans are my NEIGHBORS to whom i must show love but only JWs are my BROTHERS.

In the illustration Jesus explained that it's to everyone we must try to be nice to prove ourselves as NEIGHBORS but only our fellow believers who are related to us in the faith that are our spiritual family. Matthew 12:46-50

Pharisees are humans and Jews too but did Jesus accepted them as his brothers?

NO!

WHY?

Because spiritually speaking Satan is their father {John 8:44} whereas Jesus is only related to those who share the same beliefs with him so to Jesus only these ones are his brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers and relatives in general not just everyone. In fact it's after Jesus' mother (Mary) became a believer that Jesus introduced her to John as one of their spiritual family {John 19:26-27} but before them Jesus didn't accept Mary as one of his spiritual family {Matthew 12:48} because Mary didn't believe in him at a point in time in fact herself and her other children thought Jesus has gone mad! Mark 3:21

So mr QuinQ my NEIGHBORS are Muslims, Atheists, Agnostics, Buddhists, Traditionalists, Freethinkers, Smokers, Prostitutes, Hired Killers Robbers as in anyone living i love all as i would love myself but when talking about my BROTHERS for whom i should be ready to lay down my life just as Jesus did only Jehovah's Witnesses fit in these are the ones with whom i share the same beliefs! John 13:34-35

Do you understand now?

Later he will say he wants to teach!

Jesus told the Jews that Samaritans who are pagans to them and enemies are their neighbors to whom they should show love but our friend said Jesus never meant everyone.

Abeg who is not your neighbor on this planet today o?

gohf:
lol and you think I am laughing with you 😂😂😂, you are still full of self and opinion of your self 🤣🤣🤣

Better!
So you and i aren't on the same page.
Thanks for your understanding!

gohf:
lol you expect him to explain clearly the truth 😂😆😂

I'm not interested in chatting with you it's the Muslim guy i want to know what he understands by the Arabic word:

"Al-Masih"

I don't want him to feel i'm on the same page with you so please let him respond after all i've told you:

"if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses you and i aren't worshiping the same God"

That has not can not and will never change!

CreativeOrbit:
Your comment is a textbook example of confusion layered on arrogance, topped with a sloppy misunderstanding of theology—Islamic and Christian. Let’s untangle your mess point by point.

1. “So antiChristian, your Quran calls the Messiah Lord?” – No, you’re cherry-picking and still getting it wrong.

First, the Qur’an does not call Jesus “Lord” (Rabb) in the way Christians use it. Islam calls him Messiah (al-Masih), a prophet, the Word of God, born of a virgin, and highly honored—but not divine.

The Qur’an makes it crystal clear:

“Indeed, the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah…” (Qur'an 4:171)

Islam doesn’t reduce Jesus’ status—it restores it to what he actually taught: submission to One God. That’s not dishonor. That’s truth stripped of pagan fusion and theological inflation.

So no—Muslims don’t call Jesus “Lord” because worship is due to God alone. You can’t accuse Muslims of disrespect for refusing to commit shirk (associating partners with God)—that’s like calling a surgeon anti-medicine for refusing to drink poison.

2. “You honor him lesser than Muhammad?” – That’s not a contradiction. That’s consistent theology.

Muhammad (ﷺ) is the final prophet, the seal of the messengers, sent with the universal message for all of mankind. Jesus (‘Isa), peace be upon him, was a mighty prophet, sent to the Children of Israel.

Islam doesn't rank prophets like a fanboy list. It honors them all, but acknowledges that some were given specific roles and statuses by divine decree (Qur’an 2:253).

If you’re angry that Muhammad has a higher status in Islam, that’s not a theological critique—it’s just ego dressed up as outrage. We don’t rewrite divine hierarchy to please your feelings.

3. “Adam was forgiven but it says they will all go to hell?” – Learn to read before you debate.

Adam was forgiven by Allah, full stop. Islam doesn't teach that he was condemned to hell. You’re confusing temporary consequences on Earth with eternal damnation, and once again showing you haven’t read the Qur’an—you’ve read bad summaries of it.

As for "they will all go to hell," you’re likely mangling Qur'an 19:71, which says:

“And there is none of you but will pass over it (hellfire); this is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed.”

But the next verse (19:72) clarifies:

“Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees.”

So passing over doesn't mean eternal damnation. It refers to a moment of judgment—a test that the righteous will pass, and the wicked will not. If you’re going to quote the Qur’an, quote both verses, or don’t quote at all.

4. “Even creativeorbit said the Messiah Lord will follow Muhammad” – Exactly. That’s Islamic eschatology.

Yes, Jesus (peace be upon him) will return. And guess what? He won’t come with a new religion. He will return as a follower of Muhammad (ﷺ)—as part of the final revealed path, not as a separate savior figure.

This isn’t confusing—it’s coherent, consistent, and rooted in tawheed (oneness of God).

The real confusion is in trying to understand Islamic theology through a Christian lens, twisting verses, demanding contradictions, and then calling Islam “confusing” when it doesn’t mirror your broken framework.

Final word:

Your argument is riddled with poor comprehension, selective quoting, and bad logic. You’re not here for dialogue—you’re here to poke holes using cut-up verses and confused theology. But this isn’t Sunday school. If you want to attack Islam, come with facts, not this mangled mess of misinterpretation and emotional noise.

Until then, don’t confuse your misunderstanding with Islam’s clarity.

TenQ AntiChristian

Please can you expatiate further on the meaning of this world:

al-Masih (Messiah)

Preciousgirl:
Can men surprise God?
Has God already Predetermined everything?
Has God chosen those who will be saved?
Will it be impossible for some to be saved?
Are there things that must definitely happen and nothing can change them?
Are there things that are bound to happen?
What is fate?
What is destiny?
What is Duyen?
Your responses are appreciated

In the past i noticed how you often treat my posts as that which is coming from a demon that's why i've been trying to avoid your threads though you often ask thought provoking questions which answers are there in your Bible all you need is someone to partner you in the search for answers.

So if you don't mind may i participate in the ongoing discussion?

I'm still the same person Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Lordogaebuka:
Some questions were asked here with answers you have to find out yourself

Exploring the Cosmos: A Search for Meaning and Purpose.
From ancient philosophers to modern scientists, the quest for answers about our existence has remained timeless. As astronomers peer into the depths of space, uncovering breathtaking images of galaxies billions of light-years away, the fundamental question persists: Does God exist? Through the lens of brilliant thinkers like Stephen Hawking and Carl Sagan, this thought-provoking exploration delves into the mysteries of the universe, humanity’s place within it, and the search for ultimate truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxkOAX91my0

The right question to ask is:

What do i need to know about God and Creation?

The Bible has proved beyond reasonable doubt the existence of God but are you willing to follow through the path of wisdom?

To worship the true God all you need is HUMILITY backed with RIGHTEOUSNESS! Zephaniah 2:2-3

The prophet you quoted is praying that God should prevent him from getting too much money so he could always remain humble and supply his daily needs {Matthew 6:11} so that he may not deny the truth due to poverty!

HUMILITY is easier when someone is not wealthy an adage says:

"He that is down need fear no fall and he that is low has no pride"

And RIGHTEOUSNESS is easier when you have what you need because poverty is a step away from insanity what you will outrightly reject may become your only option due to hunger.

So keep the words of Zephaniah to heart it will help you a lot in this wicked system of things:


Before the decree takes effect and that day passes like windblown chaff, before the Lord’s fierce anger comes upon you, before the day of the Lord’s wrath comes upon you. Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land, you who do what he commands. Seek RIGHTEOUSNESS, seek HUMILITY; perhaps you will be sheltered on the day of the Lord’s anger. ‭Zephaniah 2:2-3 NIV‬

May you have Peace!

sonmvayina:
Ok

Alright!

advanceDNA:
People have been knowing God long before religion... God did not endorse any religion or name man decides to label any religious gathering ...
Only relationship with him in truth and spirit is what God seeks John 4v24
Y'all Jehovah witness are to caught up in discrediting and labelling other organization as false.... You are like Muslims can't preach the the message of the kingdom of God and repentance ...all I do is behave like political parties that need to discredit opposition

The path to salvation is NARROW so you need to find it! Matthew 7:13-14

Are you doing God's will today?

It involves only one single task which is preaching and teaching about the Good News of God's Kingdom in your neighbourhood. Matthew 10:11-15
This will help sincere and honest hearted people throughout the world to form a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} that's Jesus' target {Mark 10:28-30} after preaching and teaching you will save both yourself and those who listen to your preaching {1Timothy 4:16} which is based on the things Jesus taught his disciples! Act 1:8

Make sure you IDENTIFY Christ's anointed brothers today so you can work side by side with them for your salvation! Matthew 25:34-46

ichuka:
Dude it's not our work,that's the work of the Holy Spirit to convint men not us.ours is to stand on His ground of resurrection and pray.

NO!
Jesus sent his disciples out to go and meet neighbors in their homes:

“Into whatever city or village you enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until you leave. When you enter the house, greet the household. If the house is deserving, let the peace you wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from you return upon you. Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. Truly I say to you, it will be more endurable for the land of Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah on Judgment Day than for that city" Matthew 10:11-15

So do you know any global network of preachers and teachers who visits their neighbors at home like Jesus commanded?

This is the cheapest emotional blackmail!

MightySparrow:
Nothing. He is not sincere.

So why commenting on his thread if you are sure he is not sincere?
What about sincere people who may stumble on this thread?

MightySparrow:
But you once said to you were not sure if you called Jehovah, he would answer you. Which ' faith ' are you talking about?

If Jehovah is not answering how come He helped Jehovah's Witnesses to meet up with the doing of His will?

ichuka:
If there's no church or christains that does that,then just two of us are good to go!

So if you and i start doing that what will happen to millions across the globe who are still in false religions claiming they are Christians?

MightySparrow:
Are you shunning me Ni?

I have many meaningful neighbors who have strong faith in whatever they were taught i don't have time for meaningless neighbors who don't care about faith so you are not my type it's meaningless following me up and down the forum as if you and i have anything in common!

MightySparrow:
1. People ask this question over and over again with same answers.
2. This OP is not different.
3. Your community truth is telling us that you are not waiting for anything. Why would you build a house for Abraham and Co? Where would you be living then? You are already giving earthly street names and numbers to your paradise here.
Who is a clown now? Your Governing Body' member Stephen Lett told you he was going to heaven and rolled out criteria for being one of of 144,000 and you are sure heaven is for Governing Body' s members.

So in a nutshell you have nothing to tell the OP shey?

ichuka:
Philippians2:9For this reason also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
When Christ gave that command,He has not been glorified yet.
When He was glorified, every other name are now under the Canopy of the name JESUS CHRIST.
So by baptizing in the name of Jesus Christ covers every other name.

Can you present an active organization of zealously preachers and industriously teachers of God's Kingdom throughout the world today whose members are only baptized in Jesus name alone?

sonmvayina:
What has and body taken from the thread so far?
When did God change his plan or mind? This question is for you Maxindhoue...

The thread is for my kind but since you are just too wise and too smart i think it's none of your business!

The Christ will be born among the Jews and so his first assignment is to gather his corulers among the Jews and train them how to rule with him in his kingdom this is the reason why Jesus always talk about heaven because he's taking his corulers there after Jerusalem is condemned.

Sadly the Jews failed woefully to put faith in Jesus instead of them to welcome him as the promised Christ despite all the signs he performed in their midst they said he is demonic and mad {John 10:20} that is why the invitation to become part of Christ's corulers was made open for gentiles.

So when Peter told the Jews at Pentecost that the promise was for them and their children {Act 2:39} they felt caught to the heart as they can see all those who have believed in Jesus as Christ speaking in foreign tongues!

In conclusion the name they need to be qualified for baptism is "Jesus" who is Christ the Lord after all they are not new to the name of their God and His active force (Holy Spirit) but it's this Jesus that's strange to them that is why they must be baptized in the name of Christ Jesus!

MightySparrow:
I thought you and your organization do not believe in a life after this one. I was going to will Aso Rock for you. What about the house your organization built for Abraham..

It's just a question:

Understanding the afterlife: Do we go to heaven immediately or wait?

Despite your antagonism against JWs all you could say is:

MightySparrow:
I don't know why people bother themselves about afterlife. Enjoy this one first. I bet you, if you are enjoying this one, you wouldn't want to leave for the unknown.

Which means you don't even care about faith in the afterlife you're just joking yet when someone comes to explain using the Bible your next line of action is to mock such faith.

What happens to your so called:

Here to debunk lies and hypocrisy

Do you believe there is something else to die for apart from the life you have now? 1Timothy 6:19 compare to Matthew 6:19-21

Certainly you don't have any faith at all!

QuinQ:
AngelahFlo no mind am. A hundred times more people say negative things about him on NL.
They even gave him a nickname, something to do with "mad". Max what's that your nickname again?😆. Meanwhile see my next post for more stuff on JW and their Governing Body (GB)

Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?”‭ John 10:20 NIV‬


Jesus said you people will say the same to his disciples too! Matthew 10:24-25


So you are fulfilling what our Master, Lord and King said!

Jesus asked his disciples:

“Who are men saying the Son of man is?"

They responded:

“Some say John the Baptist, others E·liʹjah, and still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

This made him face his own disciples and asked:

“You, though, who do you say I am?”

Peter responded:

“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus said:

“Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did. Also, I say to you: You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my congregation, and the gates of the Grave will not overpower it" Matthew 16:13-18

I'll stop here!

So Jesus' church (congregation) will be built on the foundation of what Peter said:
"You are the Christ, Son of the living God"
Jesus further said the gates of Hell will not overpower his church!

What does all these sayings mean?

Well as many as those claiming Jesus is more than the Son of God they will just say so and walk away each to his business and what happens to their claims? That's where it ends as they don't know anything else to do further but those that believe Jesus is God's Son will be energized by God's Holy Spirit to work together as ONE body {Act 1:8} preaching and teaching in all their neighborhood what the son of God commanded them! Matthew 28:19-20

So the gates of Hell (Grave) will overpower any other teachings as those claiming something else will only carry it in their heads unable to work together as true Christians who are dedicated to preach and teach about God's Kingdom throughout the earth.

Abeg mention just one church that you know where members are active globally preaching and teaching about God's kingdom just as Jesus commanded his disciples to do.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses are organized in doing this with zeal.

Why?

Well Jesus said God's holy Spirit will energies his real disciples {Act 1:8} and the gates of Hell (inactivity) will not stop them! Matthew 16:18

When we knock on their doors to TEACH them they will start making excuses but then they want to correct us on what they knew nothing about!

Whatever you believe is none of my business as long as you are alive on this planet you are my NEIGHBOR.

That's what the OP is saying and i agree with him 100%

Kingsempires:
Yes because you comment is on most thread on nairaland and most people on this religion section disagree on your teaching that is why. So they are trying to correct you base on their understanding 🙂

The highlighted makes me happy as you have said what you observed now is the time to think deeply.

I want you to know the significance of that word "TEACHING" when people are taught by a teacher each student use what they learned to benefit themselves that's why many attends schools and seminars but in the case of Christianity it's not so Jesus taught his disciples to be selfless {Matthew 5:40-42; 6:19-21} though from human standpoint it makes no sense {1Corinthans 2:14} but when we look at it critically we discovered that Jesus' teachings is not for selfish desires or cravings {1Corinthans 10:24} rather it's something that if put to good use everyone will benefit maximally because it will go round and whatever goes around comes around. Matthew 7:12

Now ask all those that have disagreed with my teaching to present a global family that's benefitting themselves as one not where each person only thinks about his selfish desires. Proverbs 18:1

What i teach belongs to the teacher who told his students:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

The highlighted in blue shows that Jesus' teachings centers on creating a global family of peace loving people {Isaiah 65:17} just as God purposed long ago! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 compare to Genesis 1:28

So any teaching that fails to achieve this is falsehood and why are they unable to meet up with this goal? Matthew 7:16-18

Well Satan is a selfish person therefore all his ideas are based on selfishness so whoever is on Satan's side can never find that global family each will just be on his or her own seeking personal glory! John 7:18

Back to what i told you please ask anyone who has disagreed with me on this forum to present a church or group that's helping people throughout the world to form that global family where peace will reign which you and i know for sure that is a GOOD THING! Isaiah 5:20

MaxInDHouse:
Finally what promise of God for only the Jews and their children was Peter talking about?

God told Abraham:

"I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who calls down evil on you, and all the families of the ground will certainly be blessed by means of you.” Genesis 12:3

So the earth and it's inhabitants will blessed just as Noah's day but this time it's going to be through Abraham's descendants.

So only through that lineage will the Christ and those who will rule with him in be born but something happened the Israelites weren't as faithful that's why God changed the plan!

QuinQ:
No mind am. It is because I posted things like this below about his Jehovah's Witnesses cult

Upon all your arguments here all your so called "CHRISTIANS" have run away to leave you with the OP with whom you spoke against JWs.

And by the end instead of agreeing with you OP is better acquainted with an atheist who doesn't even believe in whatever is written in the Bible.

AngelahFlo:
Help me ask him Oga mi

See individuals who have discussed or reasoned with MaxInDHouse in the past:

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

These aren't JWs o not to talk of JWs who love and cherish me as their fellow believers.

Where are your friends who were quoting me back and forth as if they are interested in the topic of discussion?

How many have you caught here in your own neighborhood?
That means it's not a matter of the group rather what some are battling as old personality found only in few places.
So accusing a man in Africa for the offense of someone in America simply because they have the same beliefs is wrong!