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Janosky:
Gabrielshow24 The person who can't process the truth of Daniel 12:2 & John 5:28-29 (that Jesus Christ is doing the work of archangel Michael ), dey claim he "asks critical questions".
Please STOP DECEIVING yourself.

Trinity is their problem but instead of asking themselves why is it that Trinity is not written anywhere in the Bible they just want to force it on the book yet history is clear that Trinity is paganism from ancient Egypt!

QuinQ:
You keep reposting these same words when you know the internet is full of negatives about JW. Don't anger someone into dumping a ton of those here. See just a few below. I told you to THINK for yourself just this once. If you did you'd KNOW Christ can be neither Moses nor Angel Michael

What you failed woefully to do is present a better performing group than the one you are condemning it makes no sense when you condemn something but can't present another whereas millions are becoming better equipped with the Bible daily through this organization.

Janosky:
Person wey no know the difference between nature and status in his Bible,nah wetin him wan teach others?

My brother the funny thing about them is how they look down on the BODY that Jesus promised his future disciples still they feel like teaching others whereas each of them don't want to learn.

achorladey:
What I tell you in the darkness, say in the light, and what you hear whispered, preach from the housetops.
We are not in the same league. Jesus na noisemaker.

OK nah!

QuinQ:
You must be kidding. They were consumed with the SPIRIT of the LIVING Christ. The same Christ JW hardly acknowledge is alive. Be honest, is there any movement of Christ in JW? Is it not all about following the governing board, terrified of disfellowship??

What do you think?
The one and only organization noticed globally for FINE WORKS:

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Jesus doesn't need to come down and tell me this is his group nah!

Emusan:
Ọrọ tí pesi jẹ

Ó paá yán yán! Proverbs 26:4

Emusan:
Which means the TWO TRANSCEND time.
UNCREATED!
What to do here means CREATION.
Which means BOTH are UNCREATED.
Good!
Now, let's go back to where Yahweh called Himself "The Beginning and The Ending" to see what leads to that statement.
Are you ready?
You don't need to tell me.
Back to the main POV.
Reason why Yahweh is "The Beginning and The Ending."

Ọmọ keep whatever you think you know for whoever wants to learn from you just as i also do for my Bible students.

QuinQ:
You mean robotic, brainwashed disciples, NOT of Christ, but of a cultish governing body that keeps them perpetually terrified of disfellowship!
What "lies"?

Whatever you think about Jehovah's Witnesses just apply it to first century disciples of Christ because that exactly what people think about them.

They called them robotic, brainwashed, demonic, cultists but then only this group is actively making real disciples!

Emusan:
Okay, tell me the meaning!
But I hope your meaning won't be differently applied to Jesus and Jehovah

Of course only the two were together when God was instructing His Son what to do so it applies to both of them but as for what it means keep what you think you know to yourself or better still teach whoever wish to learn from you just as i also keep whatever i think i know only to those who accept me as their spiritual teacher.

achorladey:
That's what make you a noisemaker by saying........
You don't want me to see it as preaching to advance your usual lies

It's not me that says nobody heard Jesus' voice in the street o, nah Bible!

Emusan:
I've told you.
It means Having no Beginning nor Ending.

The scriptures didn't say:
"no beginning no end"
Rather
"the beginning and the end"
Try harder Sir!

QuinQ:
More like, they quote deceptively.
Crammiing your head with numbers is meaningless especially as you end up repeating whatever JW governing body says. The spiritual world should not make sense to you because TBH, in the grand scheme of things you know almost NOTHING.

Well Jehovah's Witnesses knows almost nothing but making the most efficient disciples throughout the world.

Ọmọ there are lies that's not hard to figure out jọọ!

Emusan:
I like this!

Good! God doesn't have beginning nor Ending and that is why Yahweh called Himself "The Beginning and The Ending"

Now, if Jesus Himself said He is THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING.

It means He doesn't have Beginning nor Ending.

The only thing you can't erase/deny is Jesus be The Beginning and The Ending and Jehovah be The Beginning and The Ending

Can you?

Ọmọ what is the meaning?

I know your dogma that's not what i'm asking you!

QuinQ:
They only twist it out of all proportion into ridiculousness

Yet they quote perfectly!

QuinQ:
You mean you don't know or think anything except what JW governing board tells you (fear of disfellowship is the beginning of wisdom!😅)
So, but Jesus can be in the Father and the Father in Him, and both can be in several people simultaneously, and when you see Jesus you've seen the Father. All this is possible - the only thing impossible is Jesus the God praying to God the Fathet! Wehdone

Guy Jesus in the father vise versa can't make sense if not taught so whatever you are taught that's what you are saying but it's not making sense to me.
Jesus can't be God yet begging someone else for help.
It's as simple as that!

QuinQ:
You know full well from reading your Bible that Jesus Christ CAN'T be Michael but JW governing board won't let you. You know full well Michael has been coming to earth without fanfare and has never in any way claimed particularly close relationship with God talkless of saying if you see him you've seen God!

I don't know anything except what i was taught in the Bible.

So God, Jesus, Christianity all i learned due to curiosity so it's what makes sense to me i welcome not dogma.

Jesus can't be God and still be praying for help.

It's as simple as that!

Gabrielshow24:
All this puerile tactic won't help you 😂😂😂.

You never give any definite answer so the question is not for you from the onset!

Gabrielshow24:
The term 'beginning' does not require a prepositional phrase to be understood clearly. Within the context of Scripture, Jesus is both the beginning and the end of all things. Everything originated from Him, and ultimately, everything returns to Him.
In contrast, the naive explanation you propose—that Jesus is the beginning of sin and the end of sin—requires considerable mental gymnastics. You suggest that He was present when sin began and will also be there when it ends. However, these interpretations are not easily inferred from the initial phrase. Even if we were to entertain this absurd explanation, 'beginning' would not be an appropriate term. Instead, Jesus should refer to Himself as a witness to the first sin and a witness to the last sin, rather than using 'beginning' and 'end,' which imply something entirely different. 👀
Ultimately, let God be true, and let men be liars!

What is the meaning of beginning and the end?

Wahala Yaaaso!

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Sorry, whom God has blessed no man can curse!

Gabrielshow24:
Even a child can't use sin as a rebuttal to the absolute fact that Jesus is the beginning and the end! 🤨

Beginning and end of what exactly?

achorladey:
The height of Jehovah's Witnesses delusion is the below......
I know Jehovah's witnesses are not the one waking up as early as 5 am to 7 am preaching in the street you live every day. I don't have to come to your street to know that.
Jesus don't support noisemakers. Does he? Spare me Acts 1:8 that one na just talk you don't do;. D

Shouting in the streets right? Matthew 12:19

Gabrielshow24:
It's self explanatory 🤨.
No one buys that "jejune" narrative of "beginning of sin and end of sin"👀. Thus, without prepositional phrases, what's the actual meaning of beginning and end?

So Jesus started sin and ended it shey?

Gabrielshow24:
You answered your assertion yourself🤣🤣🤣.

OK well done Sir!

Gabrielshow24:
Thus, "in heaven" they all partake of the life of God hence they have no end!

So what is the meaning of beginning and the end?

QuinQ:
The problem is that after all the memorizing and cherrypicking you still go back yo the JW governing body to tellyou what to say andvthink

Whatever you wish to say at least JWs don't misquote scriptures which evidence of something:

But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. John 14:26

Someone said the above that's the same person we discovered to be "Michael" the one standing for the salvation of God's people! Daniel 12:1

Gabrielshow24:
The same way Catholicism is the origin of JW 😔!

Says who?

Gabrielshow24:
Jesus was basically saying all things have their beginning

So a time is coming when all things including angels in heaven will end shey?

QuinQ:
Thank you.
MaxInDHouse memorize that verse, Heb 1:6, since you like cherrypicking the Bible. You and Janosky

You people need to learn from Jehovah's Witnesses who don't misquote verses of God's word!

QuinQ:
He is GOD the Son of God

Says you not Bible!

achorladey:
The result of not being able to comprehend how the holy spirit works. The doctrines of your religious organization that they were gathering sheep and separating goat na im cause am

At least only JWs could maintain the act of preaching and teaching in all our neighborhood.

That's enough to prove what Jesus said about support from God's Holy Spirit! Act 1:8

Gabrielshow24:
This is a misrepresentation. It is evident that Jehovah's Witnesses and Islam share significant correlations. Both are offshoots of Arianism and exhibit cult-like structures. Apostasy in both groups comes with severe consequences. Furthermore, both have presented downplayed and sanitized versions of either Jesus or God. For instance, consider the assertion that God is non-transcendental; or the claim that Jesus is merely an angel.🤣

The similarities extend to their reliance on false equivalences. For Muslims, the argument is made that since Jesus bowed down to pray, and Muslims also bow in prayer, therefore Jesus must be a Muslim. Similarly, Jehovah's Witnesses argue that since Jesus is said to come with the voice of an archangel, and only one archangel is mentioned, Jesus must be an archangel himself. Such reasoning is often fallacious, and they are aware of it👀.

When attempting to correlate any organization with Islam, it is essential to apply critical thinking . Additionally, both groups seem to employ damage control strategies: one may choose to pay fines to conceal misconduct😵‍💫, while the other often resorts to semantic arguments🤧.

This is the ORIGIN of TRINITY!

Emusan:
The implementation is that the person who made that statement is claiming to the UNCREATED and you know only God is UNCREATED.

Thank you for the simple answer jàre but you're wrong because God doesn't have a beginning nor end.
So that's not the implication of what Jesus said!