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Ban just dey follow ban.

As the matter dey vex dem reach they no fit type without insults and abusive speeches!

Love800:
I would love to be a Jehovah witness, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Guy you don cause big trouble for this forum walahi talahi!

Love800:
I would love to be a Jehovah witness, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” ‭Genesis 2:18 NIV‬

A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord. ‭1Corinthians 7:39 NIV‬

Death ends any marriage and the widow or widower is FREE to remarry says God's word!

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Jesus talking to himself to sit beside himself and being in the Father himself is literal to you
But Jesus and himself Father dwelling in someone is not literal
Mr comprehension

Funniest part is Jesus praying to himself!

GosTic:
Right. Is it therefore your position that there could not be another realm aside from the new world where they would be tormented day and night forever and ever?

God has never thought of tormenting a soul:

They have built the high places of Toʹpheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that I had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart. Jeremiah 7:31

Note the highlighted in blue and check any version of your choice to know that God never thought of tormenting anyone!

But why is he scared of death?
I thought he will make heaven nah!

GosTic:
I appreciate that. However, do you mean everything I said is symbolic? I'd appreciate if you can be specific. What is your understanding of Revelation 20:10?

And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Both Satan, Politicians, Religious leaders will be no longer exist in the new world!

Ruke1991:
Using the very translation you quoted,

Philippians 2:6 states, "Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but rather emptied himself, taking on the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men

Christ has the nature of God. That's why he is God

The king James version rather says, "who being in the form of God..."

JW members have human nature and are considered human. JW members exist in human form - not in animal form or angel form or God form. So we cannot consider them animal or angel.

Michael exists in form of angel. Jesus exists in form of God. Moses existed in form of man.

The Transfiguration of Jesus as described in Matthew 17:1-9, Mark 9:2-10, and Luke 9:28-36 shows the appearance of Moses, Elijah to Jesus and the apostles. How then is Jesus=Moses and yet appearing as two distinct persons on the mount to the view of Peter and other apostles.

JW for the last time, be warned! Desist from the error of your elders

Guy Jesus is Archangel Michael!

GosTic:
Right. Not only were Death and Hades thrown into the Lake of Fire, but Satan, the Beast, and the false prophet were thrown there to be tormented day and night forever and ever (see Revelation 20:10).
Also, according to Revelation 20 :15, the people whose names were not found in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire, which is the second death.
Therefore, I should note that your interpretation of the Lake of Fire isn't the traditional understanding of it, nor is it universally agreed upon.

These are symbolic terms but if you feel like taking it literally it's OK.

Truthseeker10:
So Adam was naked like an animal and had a child's brain of not knowing good and bad and your God still told him to obey him?

At times i just sit down and laugh at their gymnastics when they fail to grasp what they read in the Bible.

How can Adam be like an animal and had a child's brain yet he was cursed for it if that's truly how he was created?

Truthseeker10:
tomorrow you would claim that we cannot comprehend God...but here you are.
Tell us how two people can dwell in somebody and simultaneously dwell in other people.

He can comprehend God but can't help to preach and teach the God he knows from house to house rather he wants to fight those who have been trained by others to go out preaching what he comprehend for him!

QuinQ:
The guy was a JW. See what he wrote below

Whose blood can save you?

QuinQ:
Notice how they avoided these threads below like the plague
https://www.nairaland.com/8421394/take-issue-bood-transfusion-case
https://www.nairaland.com/8421145/court-orders-blood-transfusion-two-year-old.

Whose blood can save you?

GosTic:
I see. Actually, I was referring to Hell (Lake of fire).

Lake of fire means complete destruction. God never has such a thing in mind to torment living beings in fire. Jeremiah 7:31
Jesus used an illustration regarding the valley behind Jerusalem where refuse is trashed as well as dead animals and dead criminals because Jews don't bury criminals as they believe such ones will not be resurrected! Psalms 9:17
That's why death and hell were thrown in the lake of fire (completely destroyed) Revelations 20:14

Emusan:
You can't mention the NAME ni or the NAME hook you for throat?

See your result:

MaxInDHouse:
Not only that Jesus was praying to Jesus!

Emusan:
No! Jesus was praying to His Father.
How is that hard for you to understand?

MaxInDHouse:
And who is His father o?

Emusan:
Yahweh!
Now, you know that Jesus can't be praying to Jesus.
I'm glad that is cleared

MaxInDHouse:
And you initially said Jesus is Yahweh o!
So is Jesus not praying to himself?

Emusan:
Yes! YAHWEH is a NAME!
Yes Jesus isn't praying to HIMSELF.

MaxInDHouse:
So Jesus is Yahweh. YES or NO!

Emusan:
Answer my question oga
Stop jumping

So you will be OK las las!

Emusan:
What is that NAME?
Water don pass Garri

Nah the name he dey pray to nah!

Emusan:
Yet you still want attention so bad
I know none of you can ever answer that question even your gods in Warwick.
What is that NAME Jesus talked about?

The name he was praying to nah!

Emusan:
Answer my question oga
Stop jumping

Ọmọ i already have what you told my brother i just want everyone to see how empty you are all these while yet arguing aimlessly.

Since you said:
"Jesus is Yahweh" and
"Jesus was praying to Yahweh"

There is no hiding again it's clear that your Jesus was praying to himself jọọ no story!

Emusan:
Yes! YAHWEH is a NAME!
Or you want to say two persons can't have ONE NAME.
Now, the question I asked Mich that leads to that post is this remember he couldn't answer as he uses his normal style to run away from it.
In Matthew 28:19 we read "Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,"
The NAME in this verse is SINGULAR and what is that NAME?
Let me see if you will answer or chicken out
Yes Jesus isn't praying to HIMSELF.

So Jesus is Yahweh. YES or NO!

Emusan:
Yahweh!

And you initially said Jesus is Yahweh o!
So is Jesus not praying to himself?

Emusan:
No! Jesus was praying to His Father.
How is that hard for you to understand?

And who is His father o?

All dead are in Hell (Grave)

QuinQ:
Do you think "archangel" is Hebrew or Greek? You obviously don't know the meaning of "archangel" which is a compound word

Angels are God's spirit sons He calls them "Morning Stars" {Job 38:7} only one is called "Archangel" {Jude 9} and only one angel is called "Bright Morning Star" Revelations 22:16

So if only one angel is called Archangel and head of all loyal heavenly armies {Revelations 12:7} just as Jesus also has his angels {Matthew 25:31} and Jesus is called the "Bright Morning Star" {Revelations 22:16} while all other angels are called "Morning Stars" surely it's this same person that is the only Archangel among others! Daniel 12:1

Your grievances can't change anything so it's either you agree or disagree!

Janosky:
ONLY archangel Michael is stated in the holy Bible.

Wait nah, why are you in a hurry?

Our teacher may surprise you o!

Aemmyjah:
Jesus was telling Jesus to sit beside him
That is what makes sense to people like Emusan

Not only that Jesus was praying to Jesus!

QuinQ:
So God had seven ONLY begotten sons.

Apart from Michael please quote a verse where another is called Archangel?

Truthseeker10:
😂😂The guy is funny.

At times when i discuss with them on NL i know why they can't confidently knock on anyone's door to preach because they have nothing to teach afterwards so they rather stand in buses and spew trash as nobody will question them when they are saying the same thing their pastors said in the church of Christendom!

QuinQ:
So when Jesus asked His disciples who He was, why didn't Peter who answered correctly say Angel Michael?

Archangel and only begotten Son of God means the same thing.

So Peter is right!

annyplenty:
Scripture did not say this

Well Jesus said John is greater than all those born of women but the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than John. Matthew 11:11

Do you know those in the kingdom of heaven that are greater than John?

Janosky:
His question is way off point.

They are not proud of their church but at the same time they want to teach others!

Truthseeker10:
So God cannot be known? Is you saying that Jesus is God an effort to describe God?

That's what he keeps repeating yet he's the one claiming others are dumb cause they don't agree with his philosophy!