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Gabrielshow24:
You failed to take into consideration that when two sides are at war both always claim they are right.

Of course but does that makes both sides right when killing themselves for the same God?

Gabrielshow24:
On the surface both claim to worship the same God but when conceptual identities of both sect's God are taken into view, we conclude they are not worshipping the same God!

So whatever makes two sides opposing each other for sacred reasons both can't be worshiping the same God!

Gabrielshow24:
As an addendum I will like to cite the war Israel fought with Benjamin 😁. Kindly provide an answer.

What did the Benjaminites do that led to the fight? Judges 19:25
Answer to the above question settle the case Sir!

Gabrielshow24:
Typical slitherin' move 😁, don't be surprised he has more up his sleeves 🐍.

Today Radical Islamists are killing people (Christians) and some groups who calls themselves Christians are also fighting back to kill these Muslims.
Please since both sides claim they are for God are they all worshipers of the same God?

Sand2022:
I am ready for him.

And i've been fully prepared for this very moment that's why i keep telling you not to tag me again in your thread because you refused to face me directly.

So if truly you want this then start a new thread for just the two of us preferred title:

"Are Jehovah's Witnesses Right Claiming Only One Group Belongs To Christ?"

You already know my stand that there can't be two groups claiming Christians yet contradicting themselves in teachings so if you are sure of yourself come out plainly just you and i let others give their likes and shares for whoever is hitting the point!

I love Nairaland system this days.

You can't type vulgar speeches anymore so if you're out of point stay clear not trying to insult others for their strong points which you can't refute!

Sand2022:
No, not again. Don't escape those scriptures I gave. Read those scriptures and try again.

Sand2022:
Wrong answer. Respond to those scriptures and prove scrioturally that they were not worshioing jehovah and try again.

You read but got lost due to mischief you concentrated on letters not minding what the spirit of God in doing:

Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 2Corinthians 3:6

War is a sign of disunity and God is not for confusion but peace! 1Corinthans 14:33

So whatever makes war erupt it means a party is not doing God's will both can't be doing God's will yet fighting against themselves that is impossible read what Jesus said and think about it:

“Every kingdom divided against itself comes to ruin, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand." Matthew 12:25

Both sides can't be fighting for God and at the same time killing themselves nah.

Haba! Are you saying Satan succeeded in turning God's own camp against themselves?
Abeg what will the angels be doing at that particular time?

Ken4Christ:
If there's no hell, why did Jesus say that the gates of hell will not prevail against the church? Does graves have gates? Is the church fighting with graves? Please, recover your brain.

Illustrations!
Illustrations aren't logical otherwise Jesus won't say Lazarus lived during the time of Moses yet the Israelites never lived with Moses inside any city where a rich man among them had a house with gates.
So take your own advice because the wages of sin according to God's word is death and at death the sinner has paid fully for his sins! Romans 6:7, 23

Sand2022:
Is it that you don't read scripture or you read but do not believe it? Didn't David's army fight Absalom and his Israelites army, who all were worshiping the same God? (2sam 18)

Didn't Jephthah fight his Ephraimite brothers, and God made Jephthah win? (Judges 11; 12)

Didn't Ahimelech kingship after killing his brothers, eventually result in a civil in Shechem? (Judges 9)

Are all these not worshiping the same God?

NO!
They are not worshipers of the same God!

This is where you got everything wrong!

As a worshiper of Jehovah you must keep your senses to know who is on the side of Jehovah not just following the crowd.
Jehovah has never been in support of two opposing sides so it's you who needs to pay rapt attention to know who is doing Jehovah's will.

During the time Joshua led the Israelites to conquer Jericho the inhabitants of that city could have been neutral if they knew Jehovah's will but since only Rahab used her brain to figure out who is having Jehovah's backing she supported God's will.

Now go back to those events and think deeply about each pair of opposing sides, meditate on what each side is fighting for, i'm sure you will know which side Jehovah is before the conquest.

That's exactly what you are missing today.

All the religions on this planet are in one side while the only true religion is on the other side so which one is the only true religion?

If you're not interested in knowing that then i'm sorry for you!

Blasphemy against the Spirit of God will not be forgiven!

God's organized people: Light of the world! Matthew 5:14-16

Ken4Christ:
Continue to lie until you see yourself in hell. You reject the truth of the Bible to believe the lies of Russell and Rutherford. What a pity.

Russell and Rutherford are presently with Christ Jesus preparing to come and deliver mankind from Satan, demons, evil men and their deception.
If there is any hell your pastors supposed to show remorse for their evil deeds but since they know it's a lie they continue doing what is disgraceful while laughing at misinformed churchgoers like you!

What happened in heaven when Jesus began ruling as King of God's organized children in the year 1914!

Examining the teachings of your church and checking if it's in line with what the Bible foretells like the Christians in Beroe did! Act 17:11

How do you call faithful servants of God Before Christ Era (b.c.e) ?

Understanding of scriptures isn't easy for imperfect humans that's why Jesus instructed his apostles that he chose to take the lead never to establish any form of teaching singlehandedly they must be at least two in number so that by the time they pray for Jesus to come and chairman the meeting he will guide them by means of God's Holy Spirit! Matthew 18:20; John 14:26-27
So a man can't form a teaching because based on his own understanding alone it will backfire.

Ken4Christ:
Some believers in Christ will end up in hell for neglecting brotherly love. Jesus wasn't drunk or insane when he warned us through the Parables of the Sheep and Goats Matthew 25:31-46. Pastors and Teachers should bring this message back to the pulpit and lead by example.

You can wish whatever in your head they all knew the real meaning of Hell.
It's just the common grave of mankind that's why they chose to do whatever so far they will use their time now after all they don't believe in any God, Satan, Hell or Heaven that's why they don't care!

Does Being Innocent Mean Loyalty To God?

Janosky:
Devotees of god of this world (2 Corinthians 4:4)

Ọmọ i shock o!

Jehovah's Witnesses have been taught not to think of killing people but people killing people stopped to celebrate Christmas together only to resume killing themselves again the next day!

And someone in his right senses can't see what is wrong in that pagan festival!

Satan chooses to become a rebellious angel but:
Does that mean Eve has no option when asked to join the rebellion?
What about Adam?
Must he join the rebellion?

The answer is simple:
Each person has been given the freewill to choose what we will do after we have been presented with what we know is right or wrong.

God will not stop us from making a choice neither will He choose for us our part is to prove that we are ready to do His will so as to become part of those who will benefit from His program which nothing can stop it! Isaiah 55:8-11

Whoever doesn't attend the gathering of faithful ones has no faith in God so when it's time to bless His worshipers with everlasting life such a person will not be remembered!

Johnn74:
Just a head slamming laugh at the folly of my fellow Muslims dropped in the wrong thread.

So you've been laughing for almost ten posts in your past comments yet you like accusing others of laughing!

Johnn74:

Na wah o!
So you can laugh at the folly of your fellow Christians.

Maximus692:
At birth women bears their father's name so when they make a vow to God only their father can break such vow and God will forgive them because their owner not them ends the vow.
God later said if the woman is married her vows can also be broken by her husband. Numbers 30:3-8

The question:

If she bears her father's name at birth and he has the right to break her vows whose name should she bear now that she's MARRIED and has BECOME ONE {Genesis 2:24; Matthew 19:5-6} with someone else who also has the right to break her vows?

And seven women will grab hold of one man in that day, saying: “We will eat our own bread And wear our own clothing; Only let us be called by your name To take away our disgrace.” Isaiah 4:1

Please why should women among God's people feel it's not proper to keep their father's name but wish to be called by the name of their husbands?

RealityKings1:
You never can tell. MaxInDHouse might still come up with a different explanation

Just imagine you brought three words to label a God and these words aren't found in His word but when i tried to reason with you based on what He said in His word you turned to anyone word still not found in His word!

Since you won't answer the question that is taken from words of the same God you are talking about i rest my case on the matter!

During World War 1, soldiers stopped fighting for one day on Christmas.
They came out of their trenches, shared food and, even played games together. The next day the war started again.

Walahi talahi this is the funniest post on this forum!

After destroying lives and properties they bow to Christmas but later continued fighting and killing against the commandment given by the One called Christ {John 13:34-35} shey?

Ọmọ now i understand you better!

Your wisdom should be rated ***** 1Corinthans 3:19-20

Daniel058:
That's to say he don't always know everything about the future?

Regarding the future He determines it but about what each person will choose to become He has given us FREEWILL!

It's like responding makes this guy much more bitter so i'll leave him!

Emusan:
That's the evidence that you're not okay.

No wahala it's OK!

NEWBIN:
Spot On

How i wish to see where the other guy is going to end his criticism of JWs.

Well initially i wanted to discuss based on mutual understanding but as it is i will tell you what is happening.

God inspired men to pass information to other men that's the purpose of visions and dreams but until His word is complete visions and dreams continues so by the time the Bible's final messages were revealed God said
"NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION" {Revelations 22:18-19} so God will no longer speak to anyone again as His words is complete all we need is to study His word with our fellow believers and Jesus will be present as a spirit being to chairman such gathering! Matthew 18:20
That's what God promised in the Bible book of Jeremiah 31:33-34 each of us will have a copy of God's word to distinguish between right and wrong.

So how come these visions and dreams in our time?

They are inspired expressions from Satan and Demons {Revelations 16:13-14} for what purpose?
To create contradictions so that when a so called prophet, pastor or bishop say he has been inspired others will also be inspired to counter whatever the first one says. Contradictions will lead to dispute, dispute will lead to strife, strife will lead to war and they will start fighting and killing themselves {Revelations 6:3-4} that's why Jesus said Satan is the father of rebellious religionists {John 8:44} as the God of this system of things {2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} he sends contradictions to promote hatred among them using INSPIRED EXPRESSIONS with modern visions and dreams!
But for Jehovah's Witnesses that believe only in God's inspired words we will use what we found in it to resolve our disparities peacefully among ourselves, we will divert our resources into production of food and information materials, we will stop producing, buying, selling and using of weapons in our gathering and vow never to learn war again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

That's the reason why God gave us the Bible (complete word of God) to guide us so instead of contradictions like those who feels they must also be inspired we are united as ONE! John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthans 1:10

Please ask your friend why their God has been causing contradictions among his worshipers leading them to fighting and killing themselves but Jehovah's Witnesses are no part of such fighting and killings! John 15:19; 17:16

Emusan:
We all know it's never okay with you as you'll still be parading up and down

Ọmọ with Jehovah's Witnesses it's OK!

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Sapiosexuality:
I respect these people. They don't worship God because they are scared of hell. The truth is, if Christians imbibed some of their lifestyles the world won't be this corrupt. They don't do the fall and die prayer. They understand love more than these other churches.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Emusan:
If your brain is not paining you, you won't say I should ANSWER an ANSWER.
Kai...see what Watchtower has done to your brain cells. Anyways, I understand when you hit the rock

No wahala it's OK!