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Sand2022:
I care about what the bible says.

Bible says:

“You must not murder." Exodus 20:13

Killing only comes to mind when God declares the judgement but against our fellow worshipers Jehovah's Witnesses has never done that because it's MURDER from the standpoint of our God.
So if your own people are fighting and killing their fellow worshipers know that they are not worshipers of our God!

achorladey:
Leave regret and forgiveness one side.

No Jehovah's Witness will kill a fellow worshiper of our God in his right senses that's why i keep telling you that servants of our God will never kill a fellow believer because they don't practice such thinking they have God's backing but your own brothers will kill their fellow worshipers even your religious leaders will bless the weapons of war used in killing your fellow worshipers in other lands.
That's what we are discussing Sir!

sonmvayina:
Just like Perseus and Hercules...all hallmarks of Roman and Jewish myths.

Go and worship whatever you believe with your fellow believers!

AntiChristian:
What date was Jesus born again?

What date was John the Baptist born again?

What date was Mary mother of Jesus born again?

What about Joseph his adoptive father?

*Jesus became born again the day he got baptized, that's the time he was anointed with God's Holy Spirit.

*John the baptist was never born again.

*Mary became born again on the day of Pentecost.

*Joseph Jesus' adoptive brother never because a Christian at all only James and Jude accepted Christianity after their mother.

achorladey:
Now he mentioned Jesus, liars and manipulators ways of deflection.
When cornered they start looking for ways to redeem face. So they were celebrating Jesus on Christmas and they stopped fighting because of Jesus that they know equally said they should love God, their neighbours and punish evil doers as God's ministers.
Holding firmly and still found killing fellow believers even when not going to war

Guy David killed and regretted killing the man with whom he worship Jehovah you can read about all his regrets in the Psalms and how he kept begging Jehovah for forgiveness so if that's the case then he will never try such again but as for your so called brothers they'll kill and kill and kill again and again because they believe it's right to kill even their fellow worshipers due to politics or racism.

That's the difference between Jehovah's Witnesses and faithless people!

cutecommend:
You can have a date for your salvation today.

Being born again is not for all Christians but few who will inherit heaven as their permanent abode.
Certainly the day God chooses any man to become part of that system such a man will know because the spirit will bear witness with the person's breath {Romans 8:16} that he or she has been chosen to rule with Christ in heaven.
So while all other faithful servants of God inherit everlasting life on earth {Psalms 37:29; Matthew 5:5} the born again Christians will never become humans again after their earthly course they will become like angels in heaven {Matthew 5:3} with no gender difference! Luke 20:34-36

QuinQ:
He also said once you've seen him you've seen the Father and the Father was in Him and He in the Father. Not only did no other prophet come close to saying that but if you said that about any other prophet he'd curse you for trying to bring a curse on him.

John explained no man has seen God at any time but Jesus through his words, thought and actions explained God {John 1:18} this means all the qualities of God could be seen in Jesus because unlike other prophets who were imperfect humans Jesus is a perfect being like the first man Adam {1Corinthans 15:45} so he possessed all the qualities we need to see in God just as Adam had before he rebelled against God. Luke 3:38

QuinQ:
As for John the Baptist, read Mathew 3:3 about him --
This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:
“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the LORD,
make straight paths for him.’”
Note, LORD not prophet.
Also, what sort of prophet is another prophet not fit to untie His shoes??

Preparing the way for Jehovah (LORD in KJV) means it's time for the Jews to know all the qualities of God through the Christ not that Christ is Jehovah.
Remember who has not known Christ has not known all the qualities of God! John 1:18

If Jesus is God why did he say "pray our father"?

Jesus is NOT God according to God's word the title "GOD" was used for many other personalities {Psalms 82:1, 6} but out of all these Gods Jesus is the only one who was created first so he existed before all other creatures and he is the one given the privilege to create them.

GuruFex:
No! The soul is energy. It is a divine spark. It is your true essence. It a part of you that is pure, unlike your physical body. The soul is the pure little angle(metaphorically) that got trapped in a physical body in this materialistic plane of existence. Unsurprisingly to me, many religious folks do not understand what the soul, which is their real self, is. This lack of spiritual knowledge is not accidental, but deliberate. This ignorance is what organised religion and its masterminds are meant to perpetuate for Control.
Peace and Love.
GuruFex.
https://gurufex.com/

Ọmọ soul simply means creature with a unique name or having a owner who knows it's unique features to differentiate from others of its kind.

QuinQ:
I'm not arguing, I'm only asking questions. How come Moses and every other prophet run from being seen as as one with God but Jesus ran towards it. How come non of them ever said the kind of things about themselves that Jesus was saying about Himself -"I am the only way to God". They all direct you to the way, Christ said He Himself was the way.

Have you forgotten John the Baptist said he was sent (from heaven) to prepare the way for the Lord and that he was no fit to untie His shoes?

Jesus said he is one with God because it was difficult for his listeners to believe in his teachings which contradicts the actions of former prophets.
So for them to know that God is behind Jesus he performed the greatest miracles ever recorded in the Bible.

That word "One with God" simply means he has God's backing not that he is the same as God.

The assignment given to John is what he said it's from heaven not John the son of Zachariah while Jesus has no human father.

GuruFex:
All forms of organised religion in our modern world serve a few purposes, of which the major are CONTROL and the reprogramming of the human mind to not realise his innate power.

All souls inhabiting a physical body (humans) are all trapped in the lowest of all dimensions - there are multitude of dimensions aside this physical plane.

The true liberation of a soul can never be attained by any organised religion - they are created, organised, and heavily marketed to serve different purposes, some of them I already mentioned earlier.

To understand what life and the nature of this material world is all about, you must unlearn all you ever know and open up your mind far beyond the limitations of religion.

Peace and Love.
GuruFex.
https://gurufex.com/

Souls are creatures!

QuinQ:
OK, and you say he's exactly like Moses. Is Moses also Archangel Michael?
And how about John the Baptist? Remember he also came from heaven.

It's not a must you argue simply because of the dogma you were taught from childhood.
Jesus was a PROPHET in the manner of Moses doesn't mean Moses is also from heaven.
All humans are from the lineage of Adam that's why we were all born in sin and as for John the baptist who told you he is from heaven?

QuinQ:
But you believe Jesus said he was one with God, and that once you've seen him you've seen God. Who else has said anything close to that in Jewish history, and how far is that from saying he's same as God?

Ọmọ Jesus came from heaven means he is one of God's Spirit Sons in heaven an angel!

QuinQ:
You believe Jesus existed before Adam (just like he told the Jews) and therefore came from heaven, and believing that, here's what you wrote:
"So whoever comes from heaven must be one of those living there either God or angel and in this case Jesus didn't claim he was an angel rather God's Son which makes him divine so to speak."

Well if you must know he is Archangel Michael!

Gabrielshow24:
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It's OK.
If you and i don't share same beliefs let's respect each other move on!

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Truthseeker10:
Oga where did Jesus himself say what they implied? You are telling me to believe the same people who accused Jesus wrongly to the point of killing him?

Na wah for them o, i should believe those who accused and killed Jesus based on false accusations!

QuinQ:
Is this not what you said exactly: "God's Son which makes him divine"?
Or are you changing your mind again?

What they thought nah!

I don't comment on any other section on Nairaland except Religion.

My response here is to show everyone that God's law is ahead of scientists so if anyone feels blood transfusion can save him or her it's OK but i will forever object to whatever God says is not good for my health:

"For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things:  to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

Before this inspiration from God there was prohibition of certain edibles but here God's Holy Spirit is saying we can eat any kind of meat yet blood should be avoided.

WHY?

God's word answered:

For sound health.

So if scientists say they know better than God yet the hazard of obvious and you say you're taking side with scientists it's OK i will always be on God's side in life and in death! Romans 8:38-39

My last comment on this section.

Farewell!

QuinQ:
Maxindhouse has admitted He is divine

The problem with you people is thinking whoever keeps quiet while you're talking has been convinced of what you said but most just remain silent to allow you take your leave.
Conviction lies in the fruit of a teaching. Matthew 7:16-18
Jesus is one of God's creations but he is always in support of God's will that's why he said himself and his father are one just as all his disciples with himself and his father are one! John 17:22

QuinQ:
I answered OP's question with my FTC

OK Sir!

OP's question:
If Jesus Is God Why Did He Say "Pray to Our Father"?

Truthseeker10:
So the only thing you don't know is if Jesus is the Almighty God? Wonderful 😂

At times i just leave them with whatever they think so far it doesn't make sense but they want to keep it.
The OP knows what he's asking but these people will complicate issues and later say:

QuinQ:
I know there is only one God. I know Jesus is God. And I know the Father is also God

achorladey:
the person your faith revolves around.

Jesus said:
“You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’  However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you," Matthew 5:43-44
Whoever turn against this order or teach anyone to turn against this order is not a believer in Christ.
Jehovah's Witnesses are teaching people to hold firmly on to this order!

Wainey:
So human lives are part of investments?
Will u allow me to buy ur children and torture them, pass them on to my children cos they are my property? Why are we justifying these atrocities cos ur bible accepts it?

What do Nigerians mean by T-pain?
And is it affecting the children of those in power?

Wainey:
I am sorry bro, it's not making sense.
So can I buy ur sister, use her as my slave and pass it down to my son? I am very sure u will kill me if I say that to ur face.

Ọmọ it's happening but you don't know because the same people ruling over us since 1960 have been passing power to their children, our parents served them till they died and now we are also serving their children the only thing that is not mentioned to our face is "slavery" but that's exactly what is happening.

almarthins:
I read one of lord laggard's diary, where he explicitly not directly condemned our traditional rulers. But today, we in our ignorance and folly wants to blame the white man for our wilful transaction of consent.

I came from a lineage of a warrior. He was often sent to make war with people who end up slave camps to be sold out as a commodity. Ask Reno omokri. His ancestors were slave traders. Did the white man force his ancestors to gather slaves ?

Most people don't understand what they are saying yet they feel it's making sense!

richmond500:
Read the verse below and tell me the people that bought slaves are not working together with those that brought the bible
lev 20: 44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
It says u can buy people as long as they are not ur people and can even pass them as inheritance to ur children.

Everyone is doing that till today!
If you own an investment will you pass it to anyone that has worked hard to help you build the company or your own son whom you gave birth to years after others have SLAVED to build it for you?
Ọmọ that's what everyone practice it has nothing to do with religion!

LLMG:
Stop spreading lies, the ones that came with the gun is different from the ones that came with the Bible, they were two different groups with two different missions..

When a Chinese man slaps me i should start hunting Chinese anywhere they are that's the way most people think!

Nairagistmaniac:
So they came and continued from where Africans stopped abi

A Slave trader can't treat you differently when it's your own brother who sold you to him nah!

Mrfeel:
Africans were doing that to each other long before the white man came

This should be written on marble for many who loves blaming white people for slavery.
Abeg shey nah white people still dey do us shege now àbí our own black people?
Back in those days if our forefathers see a ship at the sea shore filled with whitemen they will run away thinking they have come to take them as slaves but let the same ship come today and see how most of our brothers will sell everything they own just to go away with the white man's ship.
It's hi time we realize that slavery starts from home it's the way our own people treat us that strangers will see before doing the same to us!

Regarding your thread of distraction this is the truth:

MaxInDHouse:
In this side of the world people acting on what they have little or no knowledge about is common.
Blood Transfusion is no longer tenable as a safe means of treatment around the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLotSbIHSVY?si=ufYjQ189kSCqjx_s

Though God has warned His worshipers thousands of years ago to abstain from blood {Genesis 9:4} stating it'll guarantee good health {Act 15:28-29} but faithless people feels the book (Bible) shouldn't be the sole determinant of whatever they choose to do with their lives as it's an old book written by people they don't know.

Today health practitioners around the world are enlightening their people against the hazards of blood transfusion.

In this side of the world people acting on what they have little or no knowledge about is common.
Blood Transfusion is no longer tenable as a safe means of treatment around the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLotSbIHSVY?si=ufYjQ189kSCqjx_s

Though God has warned His worshipers thousands of years ago to abstain from blood {Genesis 9:4} stating it'll guarantee good health {Act 15:28-29} but faithless people feels the book (Bible) shouldn't be the sole determinant of whatever they choose to do with their lives as it's an old book written by people they don't know.

Today health practitioners around the world are enlightening their people against the hazards of blood transfusion.