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Thankgod89:
Get what?
Ogbeni, relax!
I doubt you'll even get married—because these end times are way tougher than Paul's era.Yinmu.

Happily with two children but had it been i knew this before i wouldn't have children at all it will just be me and my wife like Aquila and Priscilla. Act 18:2

Thankgod89:
Verse 33: "But a married man has to think about his earthly responsibilities and how to please his wife."

How Does This Relate to the End Times?

Before John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth there was no command that all worshipers must set aside time to go out preaching and teaching so that will be added responsibility for those who are MARRIED!
But if not the God's Kingdom that is at hand preaching and teaching wouldn't be added to family responsibilities.

Do you get it now?
That's what Jesus and Paul are saying!

DaddyCoool:
Stop talking foolish
glGood can't exist without evil in THIS system!
Even has to exist to counterbalance good

Don't get provoked now woman.

How will it work in the next system if there is no evil to counterbalance good?

DaddyCoool:
(I modified FTC comment. See it below)

Of course! God would abolish this system of dualities. Even eight now in heaven there are no dualities - hence Christ said they'lre neither male nor female. Even the voice in your head will be one instead of two

* FTC comment:
Good and evil. Mention one instance in nature where there is singularity. Right can't exist without left, up can't exist without down, etc. Bad Devil is necessary because good God exists.
God made this a system of dualities. You can't have singularity. Even matter has antimatter. He assigned Himself the position of good. To obey His law of this system there has to be a counterbalancing bad!

You said good can't exist without evil o!

So going back to the question:

Why did your God allow evil in the first place?

MightySparrow:
What Catholic did was not prescribed by Jesus. Pope John Paul II apologized on behalf of Catholics for this before he died. Kalashnikov apologized for designing the prized gun being a Catholic before he died.
These discovered they missed the mark.

What Mohammed did was clearly commanded by Allah.


Surah 9:5, "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most merciful

Surah 9:29, "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."


Every verse of the Quran came directly from Allah to Mohammed to benefit humanity with death.
To Muslims, the only difference is recitation of Quranic verses on the corpse before internment.

Were you olódo Muslim ni?
Which people of the book did not believe in the last day? Those who did not believe in Islam.
Do you still believe in Islam?
I bet you did not understand Islam when JWs found you. Thank God, by now you could be somewhere betraying Yoruba people into the hands of Fúlàní land grabbing Islamists.

This is maximumSide of olodo Muslim in this millennium.

Did God commanded Israelites to fight and kill their enemies in the Old Testament?
Well that's because they need to protect the place where pure worship is established but Jesus said true worshipers will no longer do that.
Muslims believe in the politics of their country so they will fight in support of politicians unlike Christians whose Kingdom is no part of this world!

delkuf:
how does that in anyway confirm that it was alcohol Jesus was drinking. Even verse 33 the uses the word wine when talking about John the baptized but in verse 34, wine was not Included when talking about Jesus. The Bible never said Jesus was drinking alcohol. So I don't accept that Jesus drank alcohol

What do you think someone is drinking before onlookers can call him a drunkard?
Can you say that about someone drinking Coke or Fanta?
Ọmọ Jesus drank alcoholic drinks that's why onlookers called him a drunkard!

Note that they said he is a friend of sinners and tax collectors.
Well because he doesn't judge anyone.

Note that they called him a glutton.
That's because they never saw him say he is fasting.

So try to humble yourself and learn God never condemns alcoholic beverages so His only begotten Son drinks it moderately.

delkuf:
pls qoute it here

Jesus said:

‭For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ Luke 7:33-34

delkuf:
for there is case. I don't do it anymore and I don't think Christian should do it.
And you said Jesus drink alcohol. Was it recorded anywhere that he drank alcohol. Or is it his miracle of changing water to wine you are referring to him drinking

Why asking questions if you're not ready to read God's word?

I quoted the scriptures in that post so go and read to get knowledge!

delkuf:
haven't you seen cases where a man get drunk and beat up his wife. Even torn her cloth and make her naked. People do other stuff they don't normally do and tag it to alcohol. I won't not want to normally fornicate but if am drunk, I would tempted to do it.
Maybe those cases of children molestation rocking jw is due to alcohol those took

Did God forbids alcoholic drinks?
If God doesn't and Jesus doesn't then it's no case my friend.

DaddyCoool:
Wow! So you've really not been reading mine, you've only been interested in saying yours! I've answered it a million times. I am FTC of this thread. Go to that first comment. That's the answer!

This is your comment:

DaddyCoool:
Good and evil. Mention one instance in nature where there is singularity. Right can't exist without left, up can't exist without down, etc. Bad Devil is necessary because good God exists

Please do you believe this statement in the Bible:

For evil men will be done away with, But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth.  Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. Psalms 37:9-11

Is it possible or God is lying?

delkuf:
but are guys like you have painstakingly point this not fighting and war stuff observing the other commandments of Jesus.
The Lord Jesus may not have condemned it but alcohol is a toxicfyer. Personally there are some things I don't but if I have taken alcohol, I will start doing it.
Alcohol makes you do other things which may be sinful

That is your own opinion but the true God said in his word:

And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household. Deuteronomy 14:26

Jesus himself drank alcoholic drinks that is why observers called him a drunkard! Luke 7:34

So be careful not to set up standards that God didn't set for his worshipers if your own brain can't contain alcoholic beverages it's not a sin on your part but that doesn't make it abominable for others in fact God's word says alcoholic beverages makes the heart of people rejoice! Psalms 104:15

Thankgod89:
When the Bible is silent, it's best to remain silent, and when the Bible speaks clearly, we can speak boldly.

You're misinterpreting the scripture—where do you see "end times" mentioned in the text? How are marriage and the end times related? Please rightly divide the word of truth.
Previously, you quoted scripture that had no connection to what Paul was implying, and now you're introducing an unrelated topic again.

If you feel God's word is silent on a topic that could cause confusion then you are not a diligent student of the Bible! 2Timothy 3:16-17

Before Jesus there was no prophet who said people can live without marriage for being worshipers of God it all started when John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth began saying "God's Kingdom is at hand" {Matthew 3:2; 4:17} both prophets never got married and so when Paul was talking to born again Christians he urged them to remain single like him if they can {1Corinthians 7:8-9} because they are living in the time of the end when they have to struggle in order to do God's will! 1Corinthans 7:32, 33, 38
Ọmọ if you don't know something you shouldn't think everyone else don't know some are more knowledgeable than others!

delkuf:
all this your write up are funny to me. Jw are keep a part of the commandments of Jesus and not keep the other.
Jw drink.
Jw don't see it as sin to fornicate and commit other sins but because they don't fight or go to war they are the only church serving God

You are now mixing up everything just to make a point.
Did Jesus condemns drinking?
Do JWs approve fornication?

delkuf:
are claiming.
1, which church are the ones fighting for Ukraine against Russia. Name the church.
2, is still not a fact. They are still claiming

Are you saying there are no churches of your God in Russia and Ukraine?
Well these are pictures of Churches in both countries sending members to kill their fellow worshipers.

MightySparrow:
Terrorism does not have regards for anybody. That is my point. Just as you believe your organization is the only one serving God, so these holier than thou, kill everyone who do not see things as they, though reading same Quran.
As Jehovah's witnesses claim more knowledge of the Bible or sole organization with the knowledge of the Bible, the terrorists claim to accurately and precisely carry out Allah's commandments. Mohammed used swords. Most Islamic nations use swords of Allah and Mohammed as their emblem. No story Oga. Except you are doing taqquiyya.

Do you believe only those believing in Jesus can be saved?
Does that makes you killer of those who don't believe in Jesus?
Well that's what Catholics were doing in the dark ages because politicians were using them as tools to gain power.
So the same goes for these people when a politician wants power at all cost they send worshipers to kill their fellow worshipers.
Do you think Muhammad will support a group of Muslims with prayers to go and kill another group of Muslims who also believes in him as the messenger of their God?

delkuf:
is the Russian war tied to any church

Russians are claiming Christians and the same with Ukraine so if they are fighting and killing themselves who is their Lord?
Jesus Christ or their human rulers?

delkuf:
I want to follow Jesus and as Jesus never supported any political party or individual, i also don't support any politician or party. I way have before but now that I have rededicated life back to Christ, I won't do that.
And I am sure that are don't support any politician or party

It's by supporting politicians that people carry weapons to fight and when the trouble persists that's when they begin training for war.
So if you can find any church where no member is into politics and military services and preaching and teaching that these things are against God's will then you are automatically one of Jehovah's Witnesses because i'm 100% sure you can't find a single religion like that.
If it's not the ORIGINAL it can never bear the same FRUIT like the ORIGINAL! Matthew 7:16-18

MightySparrow:
Which sheikh, Imams, alfas share your views? Bring evidence.
I can smell taqquiyya here.

So those killers haven't killed any sheikh or imam?
My friend try to reason intelligently if the killers do burn mosques and kill imams it means they are fighting in support of the ruler of their choice not Muhammad or Allah.

geoworldedu:
Worshipping penis is one thing, but worshipping Jehovah's penis is another thing entirely. Then claiming to be Jehovah's penis with striking descriptions and Godporn poetic expressions? That really got me.

You think about the God you've heard of just as Japanese also believe in the penis of the God they know!

delkuf:
if jw don't fight, other churches don't fight too

Then who are fighting and killing their fellow believers and neighbours in Russia?

delkuf:
Maxi why are you not replying. So jw don't fight.
Every Christian as long as you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you be peaceful and avoid fight. I believe in the Lord Jesus and I cannot support war

It involves much more than that my friend.
Do you support one politician against another?

delkuf:
do jw don't fight.

For what o?

lawani:
No. It was because he detested Gentiles. He once referred to Gentiles as dogs

That is exactly what gentiles are going by the standard God set for Israelites!

lawani:
By happenstance, a whole country or the leadership can get converted and then need to defend its territory or the regime. That was exactly what happened in Rome

Naaaaah you can't get converted to JW if you're a ruler you must trash all political affluence to become one of us! Luke 18:22

MightySparrow:
Are you doing taqquiyya ni. When I say waylaid, I mean himself, his gang and Allah.
You are right that no starts a religion with violence, but is Islam sustained by violence. The disciples of Jesus did not go to war after his ascension. Immediately after the prophet died war broke out on who would lead. Sunni and Shia groups were born. Now they are cat and rat.
The proves are there all over the world and history.
maximumSide are you doing taqquiyya in JWs?

So you mean it's a group of people that made it possible for Muhammad to be a warlord shey?
That's exactly what i'm saying.
He wanted to establish a religion but his disciples began playing politics after his demise which made it easy for members of his religion to become easy tools in the hands of politicians.
But was that his intention from the onset?
The answer is NO!

lawani:
When JW successfully convert a whole country and that country is threatened by war, we will see what will happen. I tell you we will back at the same scenario of catholicism. They are pacific now like the early Christians because they are not majority anywhere and have never had any territory to protect

My friend JW can never and will never ever fill a place because we are moving to places where there are no JWs.
If it's just to convert those within a territory we won't be moving to other places.
For your information Jesus commanded us to go throughout the earth so if Nigeria is filled with Jehovah's Witnesses we will no longer stay here instead we will move to places where there are no witnesses because that's our job until Jesus returns!

delkuf:
learning war. What is this?
So only jw are the only church or group that is not learning war according to you

YES!
And wherever we go it's friends of peace {Luke 10:6} our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus commanded us to fish out {Mark I:17} that's how we are able to gather friends of peace in preparation for the second coming of the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6

MightySparrow:
Who were these enemies? The people he waylaid?

How many prophet bears Muhammad?
Is it not just one person?
So how come he is able to waylay PEOPLE?

Ọmọ i believe you are old enough to use common sense in figuring out what really happened because nobody starts a religion with violence and keep saving it's for peace rather he must have started peacefully but couldn't continue because he doesn't have Holy Spirit that bears PEACE as it's fruitage! Galatians 5:22

DaddyCoool:
I'm a Christian.

So you are a CHRISTIAN?

Oya Mr Christian answer the same question.

Why has God refused to destroy Satan all these while?

delkuf:
are other churches not practicing love. Is redeemed, winners and the likes support of war. You can't possibly say only jw are the ones not fighting war. Other churches too are not directly or indirectly supporting or fighting war.
THIS IS WHY I DON'T LIKE JW. YOU GUYS KEEP THINKING IS ALL ABOUT YOU. WHY WOULD YOU THINK ONLY JW DON'T FIGHT WAR. JESUS NEVER TOLD US TO FIGHT WAR SO OTGER CHURCHES TOO BELIEVE IN JESUS AND ARE FOLLOWING HIS TEACHINGS

So are you saying there is no one in those churches who is still learning WAR? Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Because throughout the earth there is no single JW who is learning WAR!

DaddyCoool:
Can you please point out where I said wasn't coming back

So you are still coming back yet you said it's "NONSENSE"

MightySparrow:
Family of Imran (3:151)

سَنُلْقِى فِى قُلُوبِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ ٱلرُّعْبَ بِمَآ أَشْرَكُوا۟ بِٱللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِۦ سُلْطَـٰنًۭا ۖ وَمَأْوَىٰهُمُ ٱلنَّارُ ۚ وَبِئْسَ مَثْوَى ٱلظَّـٰلِمِينَ ١٥١

We will cast horror into the hearts of the disbelievers for associating ˹false gods˺ with Allah—a practice He has never authorized. The Fire will be their home—what an evil place for the wrongdoers to stay!
— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran

Mohammed himself said,' they submitted to me by terror...
'
Family of Imran (3:152)

وَلَقَدْ صَدَقَكُمُ ٱللَّهُ وَعْدَهُۥٓ إِذْ تَحُسُّونَهُم بِإِذْنِهِۦ ۖ حَتَّىٰٓ إِذَا فَشِلْتُمْ وَتَنَـٰزَعْتُمْ فِى ٱلْأَمْرِ وَعَصَيْتُم مِّنۢ بَعْدِ مَآ أَرَىٰكُم مَّا تُحِبُّونَ ۚ مِنكُم مَّن يُرِيدُ ٱلدُّنْيَا وَمِنكُم مَّن يُرِيدُ ٱلْـَٔاخِرَةَ ۚ ثُمَّ صَرَفَكُمْ عَنْهُمْ لِيَبْتَلِيَكُمْ ۖ وَلَقَدْ عَفَا عَنكُمْ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ ذُو فَضْلٍ عَلَى ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ١٥٢

Indeed, Allah fulfilled His promise to you when you ˹initially˺ swept them away by His Will, then your courage weakened and you disputed about the command and disobeyed, after Allah had brought victory within your reach. Some of you were after worldly gain while others desired a heavenly reward. He denied you victory over them as a test, yet He has pardoned you. And Allah is Gracious to the believers.
— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran

https://quran.com/3/152

I know you cannot know Islam more than Arabs.
Al-qaeda, Taliban, ISIS etc are all reading these verses and are acting on them.

I carelessly lost a book by a former jihadist: Journey into the Heart of an Islamic Terrorist by one Mark or Matthew (pen name)

The views of these people are different from yours Sír. If I have the book, I can DHL it to you..

I have a video here where an Arabian sheik was saying rope should be put into unbelievers necks.

Except you are doing taqquiyya, Islam is terrorism and terrorism is Islam.

Is this how Muhammad started or result of attacks on his life?

Come on my guy!

If he started like this how do you think those joining his group with their whole heart could do that?

Of course it was after all his efforts to be friendly while establishing his religion but his enemies were bent on killing him that he started planning to retaliate nah!