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delkuf:
are you saying because jw don't fight war that means they are the only set of people truly preaching the gospel

The purpose of the gospel is to unite all faithful people throughout the earth as friends of peace {Luke 10:6} and WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8

So true believers in Christ must practice what Jesus taught which is LOVE fellow believers {John 13:34-35} LOVE neighbours {Mark 12:31} and even LOVE enemies! Luke 6:26-27

Failure to do this means the religion is having a form of godliness but proving false to it's power. 2Timothy 3:5

The title GOD means SUPREME BEING so how can the worshipers of the same GOD be fighting and killing themselves yet claiming they have the same God?

delkuf:
i couldn't read through, am sorry. Can't you just make it brief.

POINTS:

*God confused people's language in the beginning.

*Racism began due to politics.

*God promised to reunite faithful people throughout the earth.

*A religion will be established to bring faithful people together as one.

*The person to champion this religion will be born among the Jews.

*Jesus established Christianity to fulfill this prophecy.

*Only Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling it today.

*That's why God gave us another group name outside CHRISTIANITY.

DaddyCoool:
Hehehe.. hahahaha! If anybody is reading this:
PLEASE HAVE YOU EVER HEARD SUCH CONVOLUTED NONSENSE??!!
Ciao my friend, at least you gave me a good laugh😂. Take good care

You've said this countless times yet you keep coming back!

lawani:
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The name of the man on whom Christianity was founded was not Jesus Christ. He was Isa bin Pantheras. No one was ever named Jesus Christ. The man was a Jewish nationalist who did not like Gentiles. He had no Gentile disciple and did not befriend them. He founded a Jewish sect not Christianity. It was Apostle Paul that started converting Gentiles that can be referred to as the founder. He founded something similar to JW. I agree on that. It was the Romans that founded the global thing we have today. They converted many at sword point and indoctrination took over

Jesus couldn't have gentile disciples because his ministry is not to be extended beyond the boarders of Israel but he appointed Paul to take the lead in spreading the message to other nations!

delkuf:
what are the fact What are the fact that you jw have that other churches don't have

GOOD QUESTION!

According to God's word the language of people was confused because they were not ready to do God's will which is going to all the parts of the earth to inhabit rather they wanted to stay in one place! Genesis 11:1-9
After confusing their language racism started and people started killing people over politics as each tribe or nation fights in support of their own ruler that is why God promised to reunite all His own worshipers as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
God's true worshipers will speak the same (spiritual) language, it's believed that the spiritual controls are physical so the usefulness of one religion is that there will be no division among God's own worshipers and they will judge matters the same way! 1Corinthans 1:10 compare to John 17:22

So when Jesus Christ began his earthly ministry this is what he established that is why he told Peter and the other Apostles when they asked him:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Jesus' reply was:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. Mark 10:29-30

So the preaching and teaching work is to unite all faithful people throughout the earth as WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 9:6

Ask yourself today which of these groups claiming Christians doesn't have members who are fighting and killing people in the name of WAR?
If they do how are they going to prove their love for neighbours, enemies and fellow believers just as Jesus commanded his faithful disciples? Mark 12:31; Luke 6:27-28; John 13:34-35

So when Jesus said FRUIT is what matters {Matthew 7:15-20} he was referring to what is expected of true religion {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} whatever religion you practice as long as your faith can't achieve this Jesus doesn't have any business with you! Matthew 7:21-23

Today only Jehovah's Witnesses though also claim CHRISTIANS have achieved this that's why the true God began calling us by another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

MightySparrow:
maximumSide!!!!
Nothing is hidden now with Internet.
Was there an Allah before Mohammed?

Guy, i'm not talking about what this religion believes but claiming any religion is established to breed terrorists is a lie.
That's what i'm saying!

delkuf:
so you think it is only jw that go the evangelize? You're not seen other churches that preach. Winners do go out and preach. Don't speak from only your point of view.

Ọmọ masqueraders also goes out to do evangelizing for their religion but then it's the FRUIT that no false religion can produce! Matthew 7:16-18

So when i said only Jehovah's Witnesses i have all the facts with biblical backings.

DaddyCoool:
Soo, God can dismantle what man created but man can't... Tells you who is really God.
Once again, why waiting to get rid of Satan?
Answer: no answer that makes any sense.
Stop arguing nonsense. In our world of dualities bad Satan must exist to counterballance good God

The highlighted is your PERSONAL opinion!

Satan needs to be disgraced before his extermination.

If an employee in your own company say you are not capable of managing the company in the presence of all the staff sacking such an employee is not the wise thing to do because he didn't say you are not the owner rather you are not fit enough to manage the company.

So the wisest thing to do is place him as head of a branch under close watch and give him a free hand to manage the branch while you continue managing the entire company.

It's until he fails woefully that sacking him can make sense not instantly that is tantamount to abuse of power.


The true God will never abuse His power!

There was this rich pagan in Mecca who spoke against Muhammad and Islam but when he was fed up with the whole thing he himself visited Muhammad not to kill him but to insult him the surprising thing is Muhammad welcomed him heartily saying:

"Oh so you actually came to visit me?"

He wasn't even responding to the hatred speeches protruding from this man's mouth and that was how he became one of the Muslims in fact he began fighting in support of the same man whom he was demeaning initially.

Trust politicians nah they first killed him before killing Muhammad.

So it's politics that's affecting false religions because worshipers can't differentiate between God's will and man's ambition!

DaddyCoool:
The capital God is reserved for the creator. Stop arguing nonsense.
Why wait to dismantle him and why can't man do 8t since he is God. And what do you mean the one true God? I thought man is God

You are trying to be funny, right?

I said a God can dismantle what he made (created) if it's not meeting up to expectation.
So is it man who created Satan?

sonmvayina:
You can continue to deceive your self. The purest form of Christianity is the one endorsed at Nicea. JW idea is not different from The idea of Arius. He was condemned as an apostate...same goes for JW.

Dude abeg pack go one side Jesus really walked this planet and established what is called CHRISTIANITY.

delkuf:
what do you mean by in your time

Quote any instructions of Jesus and present a church that is practicing it today.
Do you think Jesus' first century disciples rejected his orders?
If not think of the religion that is doing what the first century disciples of Jesus did back then.
Today Jehovah's Witnesses began doing exactly what the first century Jewish disciples of Christ practiced in the first century.
WHY?
Because we are living in the end time and many false prophets have started a religion all in the name of Christ so God began calling His own true worshipers by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Don't just start insulting but think about what you are reading and try to refute it if you truly believe in Jesus!

Thankgod89:
So, do you think Paul was advocating for a celibate life? How does advising believers based on their specific circumstances at that time suddenly become a command for celibacy?

Take Nigeria, for example—there is hardship now. If a pastor advises his congregation not to marry due to the current struggles, does that mean he is preaching celibacy?

It's important to understand why Paul addressed this issue. His advice was given in response to a specific crisis at that time.

As verse 26 states: "Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for you to remain as you are."

It's not their circumstances but the end time that started in the first century.
Getting married will add to the stress the believer will face that's why they were advised to stay unmarried if they can. What they faced back then is much lesser than what this generation is facing!

MightySparrow:
My mission on Nairaland is clearly stated in my signature: to debunk lies and hypocrisy, no matter whose ox is gored. I don't criticize Catholic, Anglican, JWs only when you bring delusion into the scene.
No friends, no foes.

Oya face OLAADEGBU and criticize him as he is always speaking against all other pastors in favour of Kumuyi.
If truly you are not hypocritical!

MightySparrow:
You maximumSide will not want to sing national anthem, not even by pretence because of your true religion. In the same vein, the only true religion recognized by Allah says kill them, ambush them, strike their necks.
As a true Muslim, how do you handle the bolded?

The bolded is not just about whoever is not a Muslim, that's what you don't know.
It refers to people or religionists who are against Islam so if you speak against Islam based on your perception what a true Muslim should do is calmly addressed you and make you see reasons but when you are bent on killing Muslims then the bolded comes to mind.
You need to study the history of Islam before you can get the real sense behind those injunctions.
When Muhammad started the religion the people of Mecca (pagans) were bent on killing him to recover their slaves that Muhammad took away from them in the name of
"slaves of God not slaves of man"
Those slaves were prepared to die fighting than to return back to their cruel masters.
But if a politician wants to interpret what you are quoting he will tell you that those ruling over you are pagans and so they will not allow Islam to breathe that is why you must kill them and their supporters.
Do you get it now?

MightySparrow:
Agreed. All true Muslims are terrorists.

NO!
Rather all Muslims are interested in the rulership of their land which made them easy tools in the hands of politicians.
So when it's time for politicians to make use of thugs and hooligans the first group that comes to mind is Muslims but there are some of them who aren't pleased with the whole thing.
That's what led me out of Islam!

MightySparrow:
James.1.20 - ...the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

Do you see what i told you?

OLAADEGBU has never spoken well of any pastor in Nigeria except Kumuyi.

That's what uniqueness means!

He believes only in the teaching of his Deeperlife pastor not wavering up and down claiming all are Christians like you!

Thankgod89:
Misinterpretation!!!

I used the full strength of the scriptures so explain what you mean!

Jesus was between two extreme ends!

He knew that his death is the only thing that could bring salvation to obedient mankind {Mark 10:45} and he knew that his death will come from the Jews {Matthew 20:18} so what makes all this difficult for Jesus to swallow like a pill when he already knew what will happen to him?

Well the truth is that Jesus has been the same angel who has been standing for the salvation of God's people {Daniel 12:1-3 compare to Matthew 23:37-38} but then Satan who knows Jesus very well now wants it to be difficult for Jesus by using the religious leaders of the Jews to accuse Jesus of blasphemy against the same God that Jesus has been representing throughout his life as an angel and human!
How will coming generations of Abraham believe that the Messiah who supposed to save mankind was executed as a blasphemer?
And to worsen the matter he was accused, arrested, charged, tried, found guilty, sentenced and executed dramatically as if he actually did what these people accused him of!
So Jesus wasn't feeling bad because of his own life rather he was crying bitterly because of the real children of Abraham who will find it really difficult to believe that such a person could be the Christ.

His statement:

“Father, if you want to, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.” Luke 22:42

Shows that he wasn't pleased with the whole scenario but God sent angels to console him {Luke 22:43} WHY because no matter what Satan does some will believe in Jesus and that's exactly what later happened after his ascension when the promise of God regarding the anointing of Holy Spirit happened on the day of Pentecost where 120 Jews were given the Holy Spirit. Act 2:1-4

That day many Jews who thought Jesus was a criminal were stabbed in the heart when Peter reminded them the promised that will be fulfilled if the Messiah comes {Act 2:14-36} can you imagine how they feel?

Well this is what they said to Peter and the other Apostles:

“Men, brothers, what should we do?” Act 2:37

That very day about 3,000 Jews became believers in Christ Jesus.

Try to visualize how happy Jesus will be whenever he is at that very moment! Luke 15:7

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Okezie5Regs:
to explain this let me remind you that the authorship if the Bible is the Holy Spirit, perhaps the Holy Spirit revealed to Luke what happened at the place when there was no body with clear consciousness to prove the event. A statement like this disproves Moses authorship of Genesis, how can he knew what happened in chapter 1 when he was not there

God bless you!
Amen in Jesus name!

sonmvayina:
Islam is an apostate form of Christianity, same goes for Jehovah's witness.
Islam arose after the East West schism...... There is a beautiful article online titled " the Christian origin of Islam" Good information.

You're just brain dead because there is no way you can have FAKE without the ORIGINAL.
Christianity is the result of what Jesus the young Jewish prophet established in the first century, after the death of his first century disciples the religion was silenced by politicians who initiated their own religion and called it "CHRISTIANITY" but the true God revived it in our time and today He (God) now calls His worshipers by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

DaddyCoool:
So in your understanding god is same as God?
"The supreme being who created things"? I thought you said man created things??
So why not dismantle Satan? That's the topic of this thread

YES! It's the translators that are using the upper and lower case to differentiate the God of their choice but you can try to pronounce them differently if that is possible:

GOD
God
God

If you think there is difference then there should be difference in pronunciation

Satan will surely be dismantled but their is what everyone knows as due process that's what the true God wants to do.
All descendants of Adam must know the reason why no human is capable of being ruler over his fellow man and Satan needs to be there when obedient mankind will be given everlasting life.
That's how to defeat your enemy completely without being a bully!

geoworldedu:
That's your opinion oga. But all I know is that I believe in Yahwehpenis.

It's a free world some people believe in penis and also worships penis below is the worship of penis in Japan so you're not the first!

sonmvayina:
Is kobojunkie a she?
And here is me thinking it was a bloke all along.
Now that answers everything.....
You really need to see a psychiatrist ASAP. Your warped ideas are kolosius

OK thank you!

geoworldedu:
I'm very serious about what I'm saying. What do you expect the book of Yahwehpenis to contain if not private parts of God?

With this posts misinformed churchgoers and religionists will start cursing you out of grievances but i must confess you're a gifted comedian walahi talahi!

geoworldedu:
My friend has a book and inside his book, Scrotal Sac 4:12, he said there are 500 trillion witnesses. They are spiritual witnesses. Well, a mortal man cannot even understand it because you can't see God's naked body. Only the spiritual people have seen God's naked body and they are like 500 trillions. Or do you want to see Jehovah's thick dicck too?

Ọmọ you just love cracking jokes but it's OK you are making yourself feel high!

DaddyCoool:
Small letter god my friend. Which is not same as God the creator

Guy nah translators use small letter in the original language GOD, God, god is pronounced the same way.
So the supreme being who created things have the power to dismantle them if they aren't fulfilling the purpose for which they were created.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂😂so it was because of the "....and the Word was God" that "The" was absent in the kjv?
If "The" is added to the kjv, will ".....and the word was God" become a grammatical error?

You like wahala o!

geoworldedu:
Who is Jesus before Yahwehpenis? Jesus cannot even lace Jehovah's shoes. He can only dream it and concocted false stories about being Jehovah's son. How can Jesus be Jehovah's son without Yahwehpenis' sperm contributions? Yahwehpenis said back then that Jesus is not God's son and who am I to argue with the penis? He said that the real Jesus died in the womb after he, Yahwehpenis impregnated Mary.

So how many witnesses did your friend have? Act 1:8

DaddyCoool:
Why not Google and see if animals create tools.
Also, animals have other abilities that humans don't have. That doesn't make them God. They can see wider color spectrum, and hear further, and are much more intuitive. But all this is irrelevant. Man is NOT God not only because he can't create nor destroy matter, but also because he can't control things with words - even his own internal organs, and aging, and dying. If you tell your heart to stop beating it will totally ignore you! Some God!

God acknowledged humans as Gods! Psalms 82:6
Because they will surely turn this planet into something else with the things they will create!

lawani:
Jehovah witness who all got Christianity from other people and created their own sects.

Christianity was silenced after the death of Jesus' Apostles but in our time was revived as Jehovah's Witnesses Organization!

DaddyCoool:
How about from animal side. So animals don't create things that make their lives sweeter?! Why not Google and find oit if animals create tools!
There is no God, man, or animal side! What we are discussing is the Bible, hence BIBLICAL "create". That’s what separates God from any other being in the universe.

You didn't get it clear, the Creator must have power to end whatever he or she created.
Animals creating things is really funny walahi talahi!