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Janosky:
John 5:25,28 = 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
Oga, get out of this forum.
You no know anything
WAILING WAILER deceiving himself.
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immaculatesense:
The holy spirit teaches new things sir.
Jesus didn't teach everything to his disciples when he was with them. He knew the holy spirit will complete that.
John 16:12-13
[12]“There is so much more I want to tell you, but you can’t bear it now.
[13]When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.

Janosky:

John 5:28 =1 Thessalonians 4:16.
John 5:28
Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son",
Oga,Are you taking notes or you want to confirm your folly?

Janosky:
Let the holy Bible expose your folly.
Oga, whose voice will resurrect the dead in your Bible?

Gabrielshow24:
Now you run into the same problem your good ol' friend Max ran in, How to reconcile Christ superiority over other Angels?

immaculatesense:
Maxim. Your point is not wrong but also no entirely true. Peter's confession on the Cornelius conversion shows that the holy spirit minister to him alone about salvation to the Gentiles even when other thought differently. Acts 11. But that personal revelation changed the dynamics. It is true that we learn more in fellowship, but it is not true that the individual cannot be taught by the spirit individually. But I get your point sir on fellowship.

immaculatesense:
I do not know why it should be conflicting sir.

Janosky:
Why is the same ghost revealing conflicting info to Trinitarians?

Gabrielshow24:
These surely cannot be witnesses of Jehovah, they are witnesses of themselves!!!

Janosky:
Your fellow Trinitarians believed Jesus is archangel Michael.
See the names of eminent Trinitarians believing Jesus is archangel Michael.

It's a well known doctrine of Christendom.

The doctrine dey pain you because your knowledge of the Bible is very shallow.
Don't be deceiving yourself

Gabrielshow24:
For the sake of innocent readers, what Max commits here is slothful induction fallacy!!!

Where against overwhelming evidence that Jesus is not Michael, he still insists for the furtherance of his own personal or denominational beliefs that Jesus is.

Also what he also commits is the famous correlation means causation fallacy!!!

Apart from this, he is also heavily involved in hasty generalization, false equivocations, appeal to population, appeal to hypocrisy, appeal to authority (posting one actor's statement), motte and Bailey(attack his posits then he retreats to drawing comparisons with Jesus or mentioning things like true believers showing works) and straw God/man fallacy which are direct consequents of his false antecedents!!!

A sane person won't take you serious!!!
You're intellectually dishonest and incoherent!!!

At best your comprehension is that of a five year old!!!

And I have told you before that if you continue this way, I will expose you for the liar you're.

All the times we had an discussion, you saw how you were vanquished!!!

You were mocking StillDtruth of not being at your intellectual level, now here is one with a baby's🙃 intellectual level and yet you're scrambling! Can't seem to face the problem topic at hand, always eluding🥲.

This is just the beginning!!!

immaculatesense:
Smile. My JW friends and benefactors see me more like family and trust me with their secrets and children.
The holy Spirit is my teacher and a trustworthy one at that. Imagine his role in teaching the first Apostles even when there was no new testament scriptures or antecedents. The holy was all they needed to guide them into all truth.
John 16:13
[13]When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.
Thank you.

Gabrielshow24:
Of course, I do.
Now do you allude to the JW 'fact' that Jesus is Michael 🤨?

Gabrielshow24:
We have been down this road, after this

I won't dignify your stupidity with a response🧐.

Even fools can see you are talking off point🤨.

And it's become rather uncanny that a purported brother neighbour lacks basic understanding 🥲.

immaculatesense:
The perfect teacher is the spirit and he teaches people with time as they grow in him.

Gabrielshow24:
🤤 Argumentum ad populum 🥂.

The more you quote your townsmen, the more I refer you to cipolla🧐.

Gabrielshow24:
This is why a sane person will say you have a comprehension problems!!!
What you allude to is totally different from the problem statement!!!
Your straw man fallacies are just too glaring and it's become rather pathetic!!!

Gabrielshow24:
You drawing parallels between you and The circumstances of Jesus with the Jews doesn't make your statements any wise True!!!

immaculatesense:
But when I grew in the word I learnt from the spirit himself.

Gabrielshow24:
It doesn't matter whether what you say is false or true as long as you have your "brothers" it's right🤕.

immaculatesense:
Do u have any contrary view to this?

Gabrielshow24:
This same old circular reasoning!!!

hmohammed:
In the Bible, the age of marriage for women varied, and some notable women did get married before the age of 18. Here are a few examples:

1. Rebekah: Married Isaac at a young age, possibly around 10-12 years old (Genesis 24:15-67).
2. Rachel: Married Jacob at around 14-15 years old (Genesis 29:1-30).
3. Leah: Married Jacob at around 14-15 years old, possibly even younger than Rachel (Genesis 29:1-30).
4. Mary (Mother of Jesus): Estimated to be around 12-14 years old when she became engaged to Joseph and conceived Jesus (Luke 1:26-38).
5. Esther: Possibly around 14-15 years old when she was taken into the king's harem and eventually became queen (Esther 2:1-18).

I wonder why people condemn early marriages by Muslims in the North.

Gabrielshow24:
Really 🥲, "rebellion".
Also in what way have we established our righteousness?
Is it by not saying Jesus is Michael?
Or by not alluding to the visible hypocrisy as regards self defense?
Or by not seeing any fault in blood transfusion?
Or by not holding the view that God is non transcendental?
By their fruits we shall know them!!!

cornelboy:
I asked you to study john 17 but you lazy. These are Jesus words at John 17 NKJV
22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:
So if you still don't how Jesus is one with the Father, please kindly avoid my post. I reason with intelligent people only
1 Corinthians 8;5,6
yet for us there is one God, the Father, .......
We have many gods (Jesus included) but only the Father is the one God.

immaculatesense:
Sir, how do you serve the Father and do away with Jesus in worship? I don't understand. How do you worship the father if not through his son?

immaculatesense:
You are correct sir. I do not disagree with you. And that is a good explanation of that verse. Like I explained earlier the word 'elohim' means god/divinity/deity. Jesus is divine/deity/god. This does not imply that he is equal to god who is the Father of all. He himself said that 'I go to my Father and your father, to my God and your God". Jesus is above all and only the Father is above him.
But let me note something, in the original Greek 'form' is not there as you used it. In the original it puts it as "being 'theos'', which is 'being god or deity or divine'. So, please, if you are not safe with calling Jesus god, don't alter the verse, since 'theos'' also means deity or divine', you can replace it with 'being divine.'
You can rephrase the passage like this to be safe sir.
Philippians 2:6-7
[6]Though he was God/Divine,
    he did not think of equality with God/Divinity
    as something to cling to.
[7]Instead, he gave up his divine/god privileges;
    he took the humble position of a slave
    and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,
  
It means Jesus for the sake of salvation left his divinity and did not hold tightly to his divinity but took on the form of man which is an humble act.
Jesus is god who is subject to the Father who is above all and he is the one true god. Thanks.

cutecommend:
SIN TAKES A MAN TO HELL.

immaculatesense:
Maxim. I was careful with my choice of words like Paul in Corinthians 15. Jesus is not EQUAL TO GOD. Equal to means you can replace if stand in. But he is EQUAL WITH GOD. Equal with God means God has exalted him and given him a name that is above all names and all nations are to worship and serve him and only The Father who is the One True God is above him. I don't think you disagree with that sir.
Thanks.